Top 5 Hardest Games of All Time

[FF6]

Has anyone every played or finished..

"LEGACY OF THE WIZZARD"????

Ive gotten far in this game but you could never get enough keys to get far in the game. I actually remember fighting a boss but I got nowhere near the end. Has anyone passed this game? Im just curious about the ending.
Someone mentioned "LOLO". There was a level on that game that was just impossible.

[Microbe]

Has anyone every played or finished..

"LEGACY OF THE WIZZARD"????

Ive gotten far in this game but you could never get enough keys to get far in the game. I actually remember fighting a boss but I got nowhere near the end. Has anyone passed this game? Im just curious about the ending.



This was the second game I bought for the original NES and I did end up finishing it! I sorta recall them all just entering the house ar the end and scenes from the different rooms in the game were shown but it has been a long time. Your typical unsatisfying ending, but the game was actually pretty fun with all the teamwork involved.

[charitycasegreg]

I played this a few weeks ago. Barf. Too boring too play it.

[hu6800]

I must add Shadow of the Beast for genesis/amiga

Its probably the game i have put most time into ever to beat.

that game can be beaten in 3 minutes... there is a trick.



I still put DEEP BLUE for the TG16 on the top of my list...
but for the most part some SNES and TG16 games
seem almost impossible to beat .

The FIRST hardest game ive ever played had to be "The Addams Family PUGSLEYS SCAVENGER HUNT" for the SNES...

[Raworrare]

I've always thought Demons crest for snes was a hard game to beat. When u get the crest of heaven and go and fight the last boss that changes its form from a skull thing to a angel it is a super hard fight. I've been trying to beat it for a few weeks now and I'm at the end of my rope for this game. Also I always thought splatterhouse 3 was really hard I was never able to get the end of the levels fast enough.

[8-Bit Master]

I don't know about the hardest game of all time, but the original Castlevania on NES is damn hard. :angry:

The arcade game Haunted Castle ( kind of a precursor to CV) is damn near impossible as well, since there is a limit on the amount of coins you can put into the machine.

[Red Warrior]

I've always said that Castlevania for the NES was dang near the hardest game I've ever played. Beat it once after about 150 continues, and said never again. Never will I put myself through that kind of torture again.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned F-Zero GX for GCN yet. How many people have actually completed everything in the game? I'm close... got everything done except for 2 "very hards" in story mode. That game will chew up yer soul and spit it out.... twice. Nasty hard.

[NintendoMan]

The hardest to me is:
1. Super Ghouls N Ghost SNES
2. Ninja Gaiden 3
3. Adventures of Link NES
4. Super C NES
5. Rad Racer NES

Some of these games should be easy to me but for some reason there not, and I am a great player. OH WELL?

[The Unknown Gamer]

I agree with Shinobiman My Hero is the hardest game of all time. My game play run in seconds, not mintutes or levels. Most games I found can be beaten if you have enough gaming skill or a good cheat device or a good walkthrough (one wriiten as if you have no idea what to do next). But My Hero issh! In all my years in to gaming I have yet to find someone who have ever beaten that game.

[Sotenga]

Out of sheer boredom, I'm resurrecting this thread with my two cents.

Arkanoid - There are actually a few games that I'll admit to sucking badly at. Arkanoid is one such game. Antics, I do not know how the HELL you beat this game, but I'd prefer if you impart a few secrets to me. Heh...

Streets of Rage 3 (American version) - Was Sega of America deliberately attempting to kill this game? The Japanese version is far superior, and the main reason is because the difficulty is better regulated. "Normal" mode in SoR3 might as well be "Mania" difficulty!

Bokosuka Wars - I hesitate to put this one on here because this game COULD be somewhat playable if the control wasn't so figgity-freaking awful. Wow, you lose. :/

R-Type II - You know, out of all the games in the R-Type series, this is the only one that I couldn't beat. That says quite a bit, I'd wager.

Solstice - This game is pain wrapped in frustration wrapped in impossibility. I'm surprised that I still own it.

[shoes23]

1) Monster Party (NES) - I can't play this game anymore, this game owns me after the first level.

2) Kings Knight (NES) - I refuse to play this game ever again. Not an easy shooter (especially the first knight level where the maze of blocks randomly appear and trap you at the bottom of the screen).

3) Stuntman (PS2) - Although by no means an impossible game to beat...the frustration factor is a 9.5/10. Practice makes perfect by slow load times and messing up 20 times a stage gets really old.

4) Super Bases Loaded (SNES) - I've been trying for 10 years to throw the perfect game to see the cinematic.

5) Spy Hunter (MAME/NES) - I know this game had no ending, but 10 seconds after the timer runs out I'm looking at the game over screen.

[Aussie2B]

In no particular order, I'd say these are the games I've personally found most difficult (leaving out games that are just impossible because the controls and overall design are wretched):

Battletoads - NES: I can get past the speeder bike stage without TOO much trouble, but still, it's a frickin' HARD game. Thankfully, it's also very good. :)

Ghost & Goblins and sequels: If the music wasn't so good in these games, I probably wouldn't play them half as much. :P I gotta admit that they're still well-designed, though.

The Adventures of Bayou Billy - NES: Good Lord, Konami. O_O I can't even get past the first stage!

Ecco the Dolphin 1 and 2 - Genesis: These games are just sadistic. Not only are they insanely hard, but they SCARE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ME.

Tactics Ogre - Super Famicom/PlayStation: Just for something different, as opposed to games that demand lightning fast reflexes, here's a game that has a crazy difficulty level, yet you make decisions at your leisure. I've played countless RPGs, and this is one of the most difficult ones I've ever played easily. Of course, it should be pointed out that this game isn't a fraction as hard if you don't care about losing characters, not unlike Fire Emblem games. You do get a revival spell, but you have to get through a huge portion of the game just to get it. >_<

[Doonzmore]

A friend of mine captured and killed Ackboob, but anywho, here as some pain in the asses:

Home Improvement (SNES)
Virtual Bart (SNES)
Goofy's Hystarical History Tour (Genesis)

The Splatterhouse series was also difficult.

[AlexKidd]

1. Contra: shattered soldier
2. Contra: hard corps
3. Castlevania(nes)
4.Ikaruga- no one else has trouble with this one? It's a great game and i'm sure it's possible to beat but some parts are damn hard!
5.Metal Slug 3(xbox version)-the last level in this is insane with no mid-mission continues

[Sotenga]

I would like to withdraw my recent entry of Streets of Rage 3, for I have found a new hell on the Genesis. The thing that should not be is whispered in some circles as "Doom Troopers: The Mutant Chronicles." Dear. Fucking. Lord. I cannot get past the second level, and I probably wouldn't be able to even if I was smashed out of my gourd and somehow had superpowers as a result. Imagine having a misdirected colostomy performed by a drunken surgeon with flaming scalpels, and that will provide great relief for the absolute pain that is Doom Troopers. It truly is that brutal, and I only played the game twenty minutes ago. *_*

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Clock Tower 3

My god the end boss was damn cheap kept grabbing me and refilling his energy

[FlufflePuff]

1. Ghosts & Goblins (NES) Stupid friggin Red Demons!!
2. Battletoads (NES) Speeder bikes are a bitch
3. Mike Tyson's Punch Out (NES) Great Game, Still Can't Beat Mike.
4. Contra IV (SNES) Can't make it past the third level. Grr....
5. Ninja Gaiden (NES) Stupid cheap deaths and that final boss. I only beat it once, and that was after hours spent trying to get past that damn bird.

[Dr. Morbis]

1. Ghosts & Goblins (NES) Stupid friggin Red Demons!!
2. Battletoads (NES) Speeder bikes are a bitch
3. Mike Tyson's Punch Out (NES) Great Game, Still Can't Beat Mike.
4. Contra IV (SNES) Can't make it past the third level. Grr....
5. Ninja Gaiden (NES) Stupid cheap deaths and that final boss. I only beat it once, and that was after hours spent trying to get past that damn bird.
These games, as with most NES games mentioned in this thread, can be not only beaten, but entirely perfected with a little practice. I mean level 3 of Battletoads is hard the first time you get there, but what do you do? Throw down your controller and walk away while screaming profanities at the game? Not me. By the time you've been through the 3 continues, that level should be mastered. I can't even remember the last time I died on that level. Each level of Battletoads requires an entirely different skill set that can only be learned through trial and error and rote memorization. I think people just give up too easily.

I've completed a no-death run on every game in the above list *except* Ghosts 'N Goblins. No matter how much I play that, it still takes me over 2 hours to get to the second ending every time I go back to that game. So I guess, G'N'G is truely the most difficult of the playable NES games, but as for the others? Pick up those controllers guys and show those games who's boss

[Doonzmore]

"]1quote]Pick up those controllers guys and show those games who's boss[/quote]


OK! :D

[NE146]

1. Ghosts & Goblins (NES) Stupid friggin Red Demons!!
2. Battletoads (NES) Speeder bikes are a bitch
3. Mike Tyson's Punch Out (NES) Great Game, Still Can't Beat Mike.
4. Contra IV (SNES) Can't make it past the third level. Grr....
5. Ninja Gaiden (NES) Stupid cheap deaths and that final boss. I only beat it once, and that was after hours spent trying to get past that damn bird.
These games, as with most NES games mentioned in this thread, can be not only beaten, but entirely perfected with a little practice. I mean level 3 of Battletoads is hard the first time you get there, but what do you do? Throw down your controller and walk away while screaming profanities at the game? Not me. By the time you've been through the 3 continues, that level should be mastered. I can't even remember the last time I died on that level. Each level of Battletoads requires an entirely different skill set that can only be learned through trial and error and rote memorization. I think people just give up too easily.

I've completed a no-death run on every game in the above list *except* Ghosts 'N Goblins. No matter how much I play that, it still takes me over 2 hours to get to the second ending every time I go back to that game. So I guess, G'N'G is truely the most difficult of the playable NES games, but as for the others? Pick up those controllers guys and show those games who's boss

I've beaten every single game on that list except one. The rest were no problemo. BUT.. I have to bow to you on Battletoads if what you say is true.. the speeder bike levels did defeat me. Punchout & Contra IV? Child's play. Ghouls & Ghosts? Very beatable. Ninja Gaiden? Mastered the dickens out of it.

Battletoads? Mercy.....

[Dr. Morbis]

I've beaten every single game on that list except one. The rest were no problemo. BUT.. I have to bow to you on Battletoads if what you say is true.. the speeder bike levels did defeat me. Punchout & Contra IV? Child's play. Ghouls & Ghosts? Very beatable. Ninja Gaiden? Mastered the dickens out of it.

Battletoads? Mercy.....
I know I've heard it from so many people. Anyone who can't get past level 3 of Battletoads is missing a really great game. It's a triple 'A' game and, for NES, that's saying a lot.

I'll try and give some level 3 pointers. First of all you should be at the back edge of the screen for (almost) the entire 'race' aspect of the level. You don't need any other buttons, just up and down. When a jump comes just line up your player/shadow with the center of the screen and DON'T press jump, you will jump automatically (only press jump if it's one of the few jumps hovering in the air). The only other time you need to use the jump and forward and back buttons are when you have to do the manual jumps across the small islands yourself and when you have to dodge a couple other racers. The hardest part is the last segment where the stone walls go by extremely fast with no warning. My trick for that is to move with the rythm of the sound of the walls going past you. As the frequency increases, your up and down movement on the D-pad increases. You change from up to down (or vice versa) the instant you hear the wall passing sound. It's actually very easy once you get the hang of it. And if you can manage to get passed that level be warned, every new level you face from that point on will also seem utterly impossible the first time you face it. But every level in the game is very very beatable.

[Bluteg]

Contra - I've seen an 8 year old do better than me. Contra III is a different story however. :D

Ghouls N' Ghosts - Hard game, enough said.

Ninja Gaiden(Xbox) - I'll always suck at the game, while I've beat all the NES titles.

Halo 2 - On Live I'm crap I got to like a 7 once. I've only put about 6 hours in it however and started late.

[XxMe2NiKxX]

The hardest game of all time for me is, by a small margin, Darius Gaiden. It took me and my cousin months to finally best it on EASY, and we've just cooked it on hard.

[Link_Chrono]

The only 2 games I've got/had that I haven't been able to complete are:
1 - The Fidgetts (Game Boy) - One of my many games that just seems to of vanished... I just couldn't get to grips with the whole "Playing as 2 characters" thing, and the time limits on each level made it incredibly difficult (in my opinion)
2 - Super Mario Kart (SNES) - After having since it was released, I've never been able to finish 150cc Special Cup.

[kainemaxwell]

Has anyone every played or finished..

"LEGACY OF THE WIZZARD"????

Ive gotten far in this game but you could never get enough keys to get far in the game. I actually remember fighting a boss but I got nowhere near the end. Has anyone passed this game? Im just curious about the ending.
Someone mentioned "LOLO". There was a level on that game that was just impossible.
Was one my first NES games and I never beat it and kept getting lost.

Add 7th Saga to that list too.

[My Hero23]

Try Sega Master system ~ My Hero and you'll cry the first time you turn the game on lol.

[My Hero23]

Try Sega Master system ~ My Hero and you'll cry the first time you turn the game on lol.

[Big Papa Husker]

Super Ghouls and Ghosts
Contra
Contra (SNES)
Battletoads

[daminmancejin]

cliffhanger(sega genesis) :angry:

[rick weis]

for me it's the whole Gradius series. once you lose that first life it's games over for me...

Rick

[ozyr]

My top five hardest games of all time (in no particular order)...

Atari 2600:
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial - yes I know it sucked, but it was still one of the hardest games I ever played (at least for me). Falling inro those pits was the most (un)popular, and plain frustrating thing about this whole horribly experience. I never did finish the game, but I sure did give it one hell of a try (years and years ago). You wouldn't catch me alive playing this game again (please don't tempt me, or you may get hurt).

Miner 2049 Volume II - very, very fun game, and also a very , very frustrating game. Others may be good at it (or it may be that hard), but I just plain sucked at this (and the original too). I don't every recall making it through the first two stages of this game, ever! I can recall countless gaming sessions with this thing, cursing my head off at my inability to get very far in it (or was it cursing at the programmer who made it so damn hard). I finally gave up on the old Miner, and years later, sold this rare game to someone who really wanted it for their collection (and I sold it for a darn low price to - I can be such a sucker sometimes)!

Genesis:
Ghouls’N Ghosts - now this is a love/hate thing for sure. I played this game a whole lot, when it came out years ago. I really enjoyed the game, and count it as one of the best games of all time (I still have it). But, it is also one of the hardest game of all time. I remember it had two modes, Practice and Normal. I managed after a rather long time to get through this game in Practice mode. I've got another post here on DP about how this in the only game that I got mad enough at to break it (not intentionally, but I did it anyway). That is how hard I find this game. If it wasn't for the great graphics and gameplay as a whole, I wouldn't also like this thing so darn much. I just wish it had a Kiddie mode! :embarrassed:

Atari Lynx:
Shadow of the Beast - here is another game that I like, but just don't get it. (On a side note, this is one of the best looking games on the Lynx). A friend and I both have Atari Lynx units (a lot of my friends do) and we would both bring these things to work on the night shift were we worked together. (Another side note - we had worked together back in the 90's, and as of a few years ago, we are at a different place, and on the night shift together again). Ok, we both got this game at the same time, and proceeded to play it each night. Of course, being the hard game that this this is, we had many a choice words to say to the game whenever that cool death music would start playing! Needless to say, after weeks of playing the game, I only got as far as the level with the rolling barrels. This part was the area that killed me - I just could not get past it (and never did). My friend, for some reason, found his true calling. After a few weeks of playing the game, he could get through this game 'every' time he played it! If it wasn't for him, I would never had seen the last few scenes and the cool ending - with the guy running and the great ending music.

Vectrex:
Fortress of Narzod - I would have to say this is the hardest game I have ever played. It supposed to be a rather simple game were you just shoot the thing coming at you, and then try to get to the door. Sounds simple in words, but in play, it is a complete bitch! I remember cursing up a storm every time I tried to get anywhere in this game. That damn ricocheting bullet feature is the thing that makes this game so damn difficult. I always end up blowing myself to pieces, no matter how hard I would try at it. It's been years since I have played this game, and that is simply because one day, I just calmly put the game away (after a terrible bout of trying to be a bit better at it) and never touched it again.

[tylerwillis]

Friday the 13th (NES).

I swear that game is impossible without using cheat codes. Heck, I borrowed a game genie when I was young, and I still had difficulty beating it.

[Avatard]

Friday the 13th, yea that was near impossible. Marble Madness, I swear its impossible to get past lvl 3. Bigfoot too, your fingers would bleed before you could get very far into it. I still shudder when I think about that game.

If we count poorly made games as being "hard" then Time Lord (never figured it out) and Rambo.

[Zap!]

The SNES one was harder though.

No way, me and my friends beat that the week we got it. I don't think I ever beat the NES one without using the Game Genie.

[pragmatic insanester]

the first stage of bayou billy was more difficult than i expected, but it wasn't insane. as soon as i get a zapper (required for the shooting levels) i'm going to beat it and laugh at people on here.

glad to see someone plugged deathduel on here. that game barely had a moment in the spotlight. <3

[phreak97]

i know there is at least one game which IS impossible. there were people on some forums a while back playing frame by frame and using savestates and re-recording, nobody had managed to pass the final boss, even with absolute perfect playing.

my personal impossibility would have to be fantasia for genesis (megadrive here)

sonic 2 for sms/gg is a bitch, i think i've only passed the lv3 boss once.

[ZeetherKID77]

5. Rayxanber II- Haven't played it, but the reactions alone are enough to keep me from even taking a chance at it.
4. Rayxanber III- See above.
3. R-Type- See Rayxanber II.
2. Super Mario Bros. 3- I've died a billion times in this one because of accidently running into a Koopa Troopa as small Mario.
1. Mega Man Battle Network 4- I'm on the final battle right now, and I've gotten killed many times because I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[dieourumov]

Just for clarification, Ghosts 'N Goblins was INFINATELY harder on NES, Here are some factors that prove it


Differences:

NES version - faster enemies, unlimited continues, 2 lives, crappier weapons

SNES version had unlimited continues as long as you got so many treasure chests, and you could go through the whole game with only losing a life or two as long as you had the mini daggers through the first 3 or 4 levels, and the bow the rest of the game.

[mills]

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. NES

This is probably one of the most difficult-to-beat games ever made. Read the FAQs for it on gamfaqs

[mills]

here is an excerpt from the FAQ for the above mentioned game:

"And now, for the tough part--some sick-minded game programmer REALLY didn't
want anyone to finish this game! LOL

[emumuumuucowgomoo]

Over the course of time - since I got my NES back in 1989 - I'd say the following are the hardest games I've experienced:

-TMNT 1 (NES) - Maybe it was just because I was only allowed two hours of playtime per day, so never got any skills going on... maybe it's because I suck... but time and time again, I blast through the first level, whip through the second level (I remember reading somewhere that the 2nd level's underwater section is supposed to be hard - NIGGA PLZ, I could beat that shit before I made it past 4-4 in SMB) - but the third level, the one with the van - SHITNUNS that was hard. Still haven't gotten past it to this day, though these days it's usually from lack of patience.

-Ghosts and Goblins, Rad Gravity, Double Dragon 3, NARC (NES) - These games all count as one because I hate them all equally. They all suck. Suck suck suck. And I hate them because they are hard, the end.

-Castlevania series (NES) - way overrated in my humble opinion. Yes, that's fanboy baiting, I'm sure a legion of deluded imbeciles will come foaming and blithering to its defense - but come on. Control that's just as terrible as the Color Dreams games, pit jumping, AND insane killer enemies? Cme on folks, you're deluded and brainwashed by the hype. None of the NES Castlevania games were any good, period. Reviews always go on about the graphics in the third one - but frankly they seem about par with Vice: Project Doom, or Ninja Gaiden 2 for that matter. What the heck? Oh, and gotta love the need for telepathy in the 2nd one - "okay, the animal spirit of Raiden tells me to hold this item and duck at this precise spot on the platform - WELL LO AND BEHOLD NOW I CAN FINISH THE LEVEL!!! THANK YOU INSANE MYSTICISM FOR HELPING ME WITH LIFE AGAIN!!!!"

-Contra (NES) Now this game was just HARD. Like a miniature pitbull, it bites onto your nuts and swings freely, refusing to let go. Anyone ever successfully beat it without the 30 lives code? (answer: yeah, definitely, most games have been beaten, Contra is no exception)

-Dr Mario. You're fighting a battle against the forces of Random Distribution here - much like finding anything worthwhile on file sharing services. If you're lucky, and the virus layout is a rough match for the capsule distribution, it's quite possible to beat stage 20. Other times, forget it, you're doomed from the start.





Other hard ass games:

Ikari III, the first Megaman, the AD&D series, Barbie, Color a Dinosaur (I measure "beating" a game such as CaD in terms of when you finally derive some pleasure, some rank satisfaction, from having played it), the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms series (so much to micromanage... brain... not up to task... head... exploding), and of course, Guerilla War, the hardest game EVAR.

[mills]

I can beat Castlevania without dying, the holy water makes killing bosses easy and fast as hell, Contra was also really easy. Ghouls N Ghosts can piss me off sometimes too.

[Dji]

-Castlevania series (NES) - way overrated in my humble opinion. Control that's just as terrible as the Color Dreams games, pit jumping, AND insane killer enemies? Cme on folks, you're deluded and brainwashed by the hype. None of the NES Castlevania games were any good, period.

-Contra (NES) Now this game was just HARD. Like a miniature pitbull, it bites onto your nuts and swings freely, refusing to let go. Anyone ever successfully beat it without the 30 lives code? (answer: yeah, definitely, most games have been beaten, Contra is no exception)

-Dr Mario. You're fighting a battle against the forces of Random Distribution here - much like finding anything worthwhile on file sharing services. If you're lucky, and the virus layout is a rough match for the capsule distribution, it's quite possible to beat stage 20. Other times, forget it, you're doomed from the start.

I like this guy, he's always quite funny. LOL Indeed I also think Castlevania is way overrated, glad to see I'm not alone! Contra... I used to need the Konami Code (plus one continue) to finish it, but after years of playing I've finished the game without dying... then I retired, Bart Simpson-style. Haven't played it since. And for the record, I have yet to see an unbeatable Dr. Mario level, even though at first they might seem impossible.

Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is hard at first, but definitely doable... since I've done it. Another way overrated series, with awful control and so much slowdown it's unbearable, but somehow I keep coming back for more. Here's my list, in no specific order:

Battletoads
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Contra: Hard Corps
Cobra Triangle
Blast Corps

[Lord_Magus]

I agree about Ghosts'n'Goblins being way harder on the NES than the SNES sequel was. I still used to beat it regularily when I was a kid, but this was when I didn't have 10 consoles and hundreds of games lying around my house, and used to simply play everything I had to death.

I've played many hard and frustrating games, but I usually enjoy the challenge, and my stubborn nature doesn't allow me to give up until I've finished them at least once. There's only one game that I can remember giving up on, and that was:

Shinobi (PS2)

Anyone here finished this? :/

[emumuumuucowgomoo]

-Castlevania series (NES) - way overrated in my humble opinion. Control that's just as terrible as the Color Dreams games, pit jumping, AND insane killer enemies? Cme on folks, you're deluded and brainwashed by the hype. None of the NES Castlevania games were any good, period.

-Contra (NES) Now this game was just HARD. Like a miniature pitbull, it bites onto your nuts and swings freely, refusing to let go. Anyone ever successfully beat it without the 30 lives code? (answer: yeah, definitely, most games have been beaten, Contra is no exception)

-Dr Mario. You're fighting a battle against the forces of Random Distribution here - much like finding anything worthwhile on file sharing services. If you're lucky, and the virus layout is a rough match for the capsule distribution, it's quite possible to beat stage 20. Other times, forget it, you're doomed from the start.

I like this guy, he's always quite funny. LOL Indeed I also think Castlevania is way overrated, glad to see I'm not alone! Contra... I used to need the Konami Code (plus one continue) to finish it, but after years of playing I've finished the game without dying... then I retired, Bart Simpson-style. Haven't played it since. And for the record, I have yet to see an unbeatable Dr. Mario level, even though at first they might seem impossible.

Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is hard at first, but definitely doable... since I've done it. Another way overrated series, with awful control and so much slowdown it's unbearable, but somehow I keep coming back for more. Here's my list, in no specific order:

Battletoads
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Contra: Hard Corps
Cobra Triangle
Blast Corps

Thank you! :)

Battletoads is pretty difficult. I finally played myself to the point where I can beat the third level (the one that all the twinks complain about) on three tries or so, even playing it cold. The patterns are relatively simple - they're very musical (more so than some of the DDR clones I've played, go figger) - they just take a quick set of reflexes to slam. Up, down, up, down, jump, up, down, updownupdown... whee.

Another hard series was the Simpsons series, though that was more due to the dodgy control and the fact that, after a ew levels, I just couldn't bring myself to play any more. Bart vs. the World is one of the few games I ever traded in - kinda sad in retrospect, since it was one of the last gifts from my kind, late grandmother. Her spirits put a curse on my Madden '94, though - it was the first SNES game to ever require blowjobs to run.


Blowjobs. You know. NES game therapy? Where you blow into them, and it's like a job? In that it's pointless but gives you payment in the end.

Anyhow, my coherancy is shot from a long bout of Metropolismania. I wish there were more place for families! I don't know anyone who can solve the playground's complaint. Nice day, isn't it? Have a good time.

[Grobyc]

Contra-Nes
contra III-Snes
Mega Man 1-6-Nes
Prince of Persia:Sands of time-Xbox ( I don't know why. I just had a hard time.)
Mike Tyson's Punch OUt!-Nes

[Ruudos]

-Ghosts and Goblins, Rad Gravity, Double Dragon 3, NARC (NES) - These games all count as one because I hate them all equally. They all suck. Suck suck suck. And I hate them because they are hard, the end.

Shame on you. Rad Gravity is God! DD3 isn't too bad either.

[emumuumuucowgomoo]

-Ghosts and Goblins, Rad Gravity, Double Dragon 3, NARC (NES) - These games all count as one because I hate them all equally. They all suck. Suck suck suck. And I hate them because they are hard, the end.

Shame on you. Rad Gravity is God! DD3 isn't too bad either.

Are you the Ruudos?

[VG_Maniac]

Battletoads. That game is so freaking hard, it's not even funny.

Castlevania III was also pretty hard, as well as all the Ninja Gaidens.

[Ruudos]

-Ghosts and Goblins, Rad Gravity, Double Dragon 3, NARC (NES) - These games all count as one because I hate them all equally. They all suck. Suck suck suck. And I hate them because they are hard, the end.

Shame on you. Rad Gravity is God! DD3 isn't too bad either.

Are you the Ruudos?

I have no idea actually.

[DreamTR]

Sorry, I had to laugh at someone thinking COntra was hard LOL

My ex-gf can beat that game in one life, as can many people....


hard games=Adventures of Batman and Robin (Genesis)
Ghosts N Goblins, etc.

Not Mega Man and Contra, come on!

[evildead2099]

R-Type 2

Rayxanber III

Super Ghouls & Ghosts

Battletoads

Contra III: The Alien Wars (On 'Hard' mode)

Honorable mentions:

Castlevania III (It's very tough, but still very possible to beat)

Castlevania I (Beating Dracua's 1st form is DAMN tough! The Grim Reaper is fairly challenging as well)

[evildead2099]

R-Type 2

Rayxanber III

Super Ghouls & Ghosts

Battletoads

Contra III: The Alien Wars (On 'Hard' mode)

Honorable mentions:

Castlevania III (It's very tough, but still very possible to beat)

Castlevania I (Beating Dracua's 1st form is DAMN tough! The Grim Reaper is fairly challenging as well)

Haunted Castle (But that's due more to its ultra-stiff control than any of the legit challenges which the game throws at you)

[evildead2099]

Another honorable mention:

Haunted Castle (But that's due more to its ultra-stiff control than any of the legit challenges which the game throws at you)

[Zap!]

By far and away, the FamiCom game Transformers is the hardest.

[Shimizo_123]

i think the NES in genral had some of the hardest games that have ever been made. awsome system.

[play2win]

Hmm....
Well, I've played many a hard game in my time. I think we need to distinguish between a game that is genuinely hard, just to beat, and a game that can be easy or very hard depending on your blunt determination to unlock goodies or get the "best" ending. Bearing this in mind, For me, if I had to break it down into 5, I'd say:

1. (SNES) Super "Freaking Insane" R-Type-
The ROM doesn't do it justice. Try beating it on Expert difficulty on a genuine snes and you'll get flicker/slowdown that will make your ship sluggish and your enemies and their shots temperarilly invisible. The ending is great but I think few will ever see it without cheating

2. (SNES) Super Ghouls & Ghosts- Much, much, MUCH harder than even the original ghosts and goblins, which I think has overhyped difficulty if you use the red demon vanishing trick.

3. (NES) The Krion Conquest- An nes mega man clone. Fun and deceptively hard, nothing looks threatening until you realize the game has 21 levels and you have NO continues.

4. (SMS) Space Harrier 3d- In short, its all the fun of space harrier, only obsticles, enemies, and shots have two frame incoming motions, and can kill you before you realize they exist.

5. (PS2) Contra Shattered Soldier- Maybe not the hardest game but I'm too old to remember many of my retro conquests. I did eventually get the S rank (beat it 100% hit rate in every level without dying at all) and it wasn't so much that it was "hard" as that it took painstaking memorizations of level layouts and boss attack patterns, same as Contra HC only in that one you could actually die without resetting the damn game!