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digitalpress
02-10-2005, 10:43 AM
Just because someone asked and I found the result interesting. 43% of US-released Saturn games were also released on PlayStation. Take from that what you will, I was just interested in the statistic.

3D Baseball
Alien Trilogy
All-Star Baseball '97 Featuring Frank Thomas
Alone in The Dark: One-Eyed Jack's Revenge
Andretti Racing
Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Atari Collection 1
Arcade's Greatest Hits: Williams
Area 51
Bases Loaded '96: Double Header
Batman Forever: The Arcade Game
Battle Stations
BattleSport
Black Dawn
Blast Chamber
Blazing Dragons
Bottom of the 9th
Braindead 13
Bubble Bobble also featuring Rainbow Islands
Bust-a-Move 2: Arcade Edition
Casper
College Slam
Command & Conquer
Contra: Legacy of War
Courier Crisis
Criticom
Croc: Legend of the Gobbos
Crow, The: City of Angels
Crusader: No Remorse
Crypt Killer
Cyberia
D
Darklight Conflict
Defcon 5: Incoming
Die Hard Trilogy
Doom
DragonHeart: Fire & Steel
FIFA Soccer '97
Frank Thomas Big Hurt Baseball
Gex
Grid Runner
Impact Racing
In the Hunt
Incredible Hulk, The: The Pantheon Saga
Independence Day
Iron Man/X-O Manowar in Heavy Metal
Johnny Bazookatone
Loaded
Machine Head
Magic Carpet
Marvel Super Heroes
Mass Destruction
Maximum Force
MechWarrior 2
Mega Man 8: Anniversary Collector's Edition
Mega Man X4
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Myst
NASCAR '98
NBA Jam Extreme
NBA Jam Tournament Edition
NBA Live '97
NBA Live '98
NFL Quarterback Club '97
NHL '97
NHL '98
Norse By Norsewest: The Return of the Lost Vikings
Off-World Interceptor Extreme
Pandemonium!
PGA Tour '97
Powerslave
Primal Rage
Pro Pinball
Rampage World Tour
Rayman
Resident Evil
Rise 2 Resurrection
Road Rash
Robo-Pit
Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire
Shellshock
Shockwave Assault
SimCity 2000
Skeleton Warriors
Soviet Strike
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels
Space Jam
Spot Goes to Hollywood
Star Fighter
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
Street Fighter Collection
Street Fighter: The Movie
Striker '96
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Ten Pin Alley
Tetris Plus
Theme Park
Thunder Strike 2
Tomb Raider
True Pinball
Tunnel B-1
VR Golf '97
Warcraft II: The Dark Saga
Wipeout
World Cup Golf: Professional Edition
Worms
WWF In Your House
WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game
X-Men: Children of the Atom

Steven
02-10-2005, 10:51 AM
Heh, I forget that PS1 never saw the likes of Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack and Bust-A-Move 3. I'm especially shocked about the last one in this list.

atomicthumbs
02-10-2005, 12:10 PM
Great list! I had no idea that Braindead 13 was also on the Saturn!

I've also recently picked up Tetris Plus on Saturn rather than Playstation (which until then did not know it existed either).

CreamSoda
02-10-2005, 12:34 PM
Cool topic! I find it pretty interesting, what would also make a good thread is about games on both systems that were better on Saturn. Kind of like the thread, of what Genesis/SNES games were better on Genesis.

tonyvortex
02-10-2005, 12:36 PM
i dont know if its true but i heard that Tomb Raider was orginallygoing to be saturn only.

Gamemaster_ca_2003
02-10-2005, 02:07 PM
I beleve Robo Pit was also on the Saturn and the Playstation (I have seen reviews of the both versions of the game)

fishsandwich
02-10-2005, 02:18 PM
I beleve Robo Pit was also on the Saturn and the Playstation (I have seen reviews of the both versions of the game)

It was... I have both. Robopit 2 was PSX only.

fishsandwich
02-10-2005, 02:39 PM
I've played a number of these games on both systems. Here are some opinions on a few...


Alien Trilogy- Better on PSX. Saturn version rumored to only use oone of the Saturn's two CPU's

Batman Forever: The Arcade Game- Better on Saturn as the original arcade game utilized Saturn-based hardware

Contra: Legacy of War- Better on PSX, but the Saturn game also got the 3-D glasses... it was going to be released without them originally.

Croc: Legend of the Gobbos- Best on PSX, but the Saturn runs a surprisingly close second. Great 3-D for a 3rd party Saturn game!

Crow, The: City of Angels- Shitty on all systems. Who cares?

Die Hard Trilogy- Better on PSX, expecially the gun section

Doom- Miles better on PSX

In the Hunt- Better on Saturn (less slowdown)

Loaded- Surprisingly better on Saturn

Marvel Super Heroes- No contest; Saturn. If you have a 1 meg RAM cart plugged in you'll unlock a hidden option to add more character animation, the only domestic Saturn game that does this.

Mass Destruction- Moves faster & plays better on Saturn

Mega Man 8: Anniversary Collector's Edition- Tie?

Mega Man X4- Tie?

Powerslave- Better on Saturn with faster frame rates and smoother action

Rayman- Better on PSX, especiallly with that little window where you can see a mini version of the whole screen

Star Fighter- Better on 3DO!

Street Fighter Alpha 2- All Capcom fighters are better on Saturn!

Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams- All Capcom fighters are better on Saturn!

Street Fighter Collection- All Capcom fighters are better on Saturn!

Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo- Draw?

Tomb Raider- Better on PSX, but the Saturn is surprisingly close

Tunnel B-1- This game is all about lighting effects, so the PSX wins hands-down

Wipeout- PSX wins. N64 better!

X-Men: Children of the Atom- Capcom PSX games always lagged behind their Saturn cousins, but this one REALLY sucked on PSX. I don't think Capcom handled the conversion.

atomicthumbs
02-10-2005, 02:43 PM
i dont know if its true but i heard that Tomb Raider was orginallygoing to be saturn only.

Yeah. I think you're right (could swear I read that a while ago).

PS. Your sig is freakin' hilarious. C'mon. Trade ya for one. New games? C'mon. Don't even need the controller or hookups. C'mon.

ubersaurus
02-10-2005, 02:56 PM
Mega Man 8 was better on saturn...more robot masters were in it.

esquire
02-10-2005, 03:02 PM
Heh, I forget that PS1 never saw the likes of Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack and Bust-A-Move 3. I'm especially shocked about the last one in this list.

I have Darius Gaiden for the PS1. It's a japanese import though, and a great game if you like shmups. I am surprised that never made it to the US, especially since they released G. Darius over here.

Arcade Antics
02-10-2005, 03:09 PM
Heh, I forget that PS1 never saw the likes of Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack and Bust-A-Move 3. I'm especially shocked about the last one in this list.

BAM3 is on the PSX, but it's named was changed to something else, BAM'99 maybe? So it won't show up as an overlap title. :)

digitalpress
02-10-2005, 03:52 PM
I beleve Robo Pit was also on the Saturn and the Playstation (I have seen reviews of the both versions of the game)

It was... I have both. Robopit 2 was PSX only.

Good catch, you two. They're both on the database but one of them has a Robo-Pit and one is Robo Pit (no dash). I will fix that.

le geek
02-10-2005, 03:57 PM
Grid Runner is better on Saturn (has extra animation in the backgrounds)

Ten Pin Alley is IMHO better on PSX (while the Saturn version has extra features, it's in low rez)

Gamemaster_ca_2003
02-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Also add
Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Atari Collection 1
Williams Arcade's Greatest Hits
Sim City 2000

Iron Draggon
02-10-2005, 09:56 PM
Heh, I forget that PS1 never saw the likes of Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack and Bust-A-Move 3. I'm especially shocked about the last one in this list.

I'm especially shocked about the first two in this list. I would've thought that Darius Gaiden would've made the cut for sure, and I dunno why Working Designs never re-released Galactic Attack on the PS as Rayforce. They did Raystorm and Raycrisis, so why would they skip over the first in the series?

BTW, props to Darius Gaiden & G-Darius, both totally awesome shmupping!

tonyvortex
02-11-2005, 02:03 AM
PS. Your sig is freakin' hilarious. C'mon. Trade ya for one. New games? C'mon. Don't even need the controller or hookups. C'mon.

thanks!i always figure its good to have as many top loaders as possible.ive given away three as birthday presents and am down to six.i always figure if someone can offer something that i would really want i would be willing to trade one.

ubersaurus
02-11-2005, 02:08 AM
Heh, I forget that PS1 never saw the likes of Darius Gaiden, Galactic Attack and Bust-A-Move 3. I'm especially shocked about the last one in this list.

I'm especially shocked about the first two in this list. I would've thought that Darius Gaiden would've made the cut for sure, and I dunno why Working Designs never re-released Galactic Attack on the PS as Rayforce. They did Raystorm and Raycrisis, so why would they skip over the first in the series?

BTW, props to Darius Gaiden & G-Darius, both totally awesome shmupping!

Because Acclaim had the rights to Rayforce/Galactic Attack/Layer Section, and there is no PS1 version of Layer Section in the first place to bring over.

Dangerboy
02-11-2005, 02:47 AM
Some other interesting notes:

1. D on the Saturn only takes 2 CDs. PSX took 3.

2. I recall PSX In the Hunt being better...I recall a animation glitch in the Saturn version that made it look weird...

3. Fox Hunt was scheduled for Saturn, poor sales of PSX version killed that.

4. Tempest X contains the Saturn/Jaguar verison of Tempest 2000 buried inside of it, accessible via unlocking, that could be added to the list.

5. Megaman 8 on Saturn had one additiona animation in it's water levels not present PSX version..so..ironically...the better game is the one watered down...

6. X-Men Children of the Atom on PSX was so poorly built (or even worse, ported) from the Saturn version than Capcom scrapped it and shelved it permantly. It wasn't until Acclaim, most likely through a loophole in distributing the Saturn version, got the rights to the PSX version to release it, some YEARS later. And oh it was so coaster-ly good...

7. Interesting point, how about going back and finding the percentage of exclusive Saturn games from the remaining 58% were *not* released by Sega?

goatdan
02-11-2005, 03:03 AM
i dont know if its true but i heard that Tomb Raider was orginallygoing to be saturn only.

Actually, originally it was going to be a Jaguar exclusive title. And it starred Laura Croft if I remember right. I'll have to see if I can dig up that press release. That was a weird one to see.


4. Tempest X contains the Saturn/Jaguar verison of Tempest 2000 buried inside of it, accessible via unlocking, that could be added to the list.

Tempest X contains a port of the Saturn / PC version of Tempest 2000. Both of those were ported from the Jaguar version and had the gameplay 'tweaked.' Where as the Jaguar version is insanely good, the Saturn / PC versions both have things that are just too odd to love...

I wouldn't call Sat Tempest 2000 a direct port of PSX Tempest X or vice versa.

Iron Draggon
02-11-2005, 04:34 AM
Because Acclaim had the rights to Rayforce/Galactic Attack/Layer Section, and there is no PS1 version of Layer Section in the first place to bring over.

So what? They can't port it from Saturn to PS1? That makes no sense at all.

atomicthumbs
02-11-2005, 04:39 AM
So what? They can't port it from Saturn to PS1? That makes no sense at all.


YES IT DOES!!!
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Iron Draggon
02-11-2005, 05:21 AM
No it doesn't! Any game can be ported over from any system to any other system. Some are easier to port to or from than others, but it can be done. And games aren't always made completely from scratch for each different console that they're released on. Sometimes they are, but they don't have to be. So why would there have to be a Layer Section on PS1 to be able to make a Rayforce for PS1? You do know that Raystorm was ported from the Saturn to the PS1 from Layer Section 2, right? Where did you think it came from? So if they can have Layer Section 2 on Saturn and PS1, why can't they have Layer Section 1 on Saturn and PS1? They have Thunderforce V on Saturn and PS1, how do you think that happened? Technosoft only made it once, for the Saturn, and they were done with it. Then Working Designs made it for PS1. So they could've made Rayforce for PS1 also. They just didn't do it. Acclaim only had the rights to do Layer Section on the Saturn. But unless they had a clause in their contract that nobody else could make Layer Section for any other system, then Working Designs could've made Rayforce for PS1 if they wanted to. They just chose not to do it.

atomicthumbs
02-11-2005, 06:42 AM
Whoa.... Uhhh, see, the joke was "Bizzaro World"... Get it? Ummm... Oh, well. Whatever. Nevermind (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003TA4/qid=1108121937/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-4919862-2200604).

RCM
02-11-2005, 08:38 AM
Marvel Super Heroes- No contest; Saturn. If you have a 1 meg RAM cart plugged in you'll unlock a hidden option to add more character animation, the only domestic Saturn game that does this.

Does this work with the 4-meg cart too? I heard about this a while ago but didn't think it was true. Does this option make Marvel Superheros arcade perfect? I know there's an option in Nightwarriors to restore frames of animation. Although it looks pretty much the same to me.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

ubersaurus
02-11-2005, 04:20 PM
Because Acclaim had the rights to Rayforce/Galactic Attack/Layer Section, and there is no PS1 version of Layer Section in the first place to bring over.

So what? They can't port it from Saturn to PS1? That makes no sense at all.

Sure it does. Raystorm and Raycrisis were existing PS1 games in Japan. Rayforce was not. Working Designs doesn't really program games, as much as they translate them and bring em stateside. About all they could've done is bring out Raystorm's saturn version.

As for why Acclaim didn't, they probably didn't feel it was worth it. I wouldn't expect them to port over a japanese game just for the US market, anyway.