Please help! SNES appraisal - International Superstar Soccer

[suppafly]

Someone I know is selling this game to me. Hes not selling it very cheap. (Over 25 dollars, to say enough)

I dont collect SNEs games, so I´d buy it only to sell it again and make a profit, maybe on Ebay.. or maybe trading it for some rare or uncommon genesis games.

how much do you think this game would go for?

Its: International Super Star Soccer for SNES, by Konami.

Thanks!!!

http://e-galf.net/remates/iss.jpg

[Querjek]

Put the name of the game in the title of this thread--you're bound to get a ton more hits with it, as I always see this game on people's want lists.

[suppafly]

Put the name of the game in the title of this thread--you're bound to get a ton more hits with it, as I always see this game on people's want lists.

Thanks...I just did that ! 8-)

[drummy]

I say it's pretty rare, I've only heard rumors of it, I've never actually even seen a picture of it...I say snatch it if you have the money!

[suppafly]

Thanks...Im seriously considering to buy it....but i have no idea how much i could sell it for-.... 40? 60? 100?

Im completely lost....any ideas?

[suppafly]

Complete name is

International Superstar Soccer Deluxe...

[drummy]

Thanks...Im seriously considering to buy it....but i have no idea how much i could sell it for-.... 40? 60? 100?

Im completely lost....any ideas?
If you're going to sell it, it's a big gamble, since not a lot of people know about the game. I thought it was for collection purposes.....

[TisLord]

First of all how can you verify its an ntsc true release and how much money we talking about your friend wanting. Find out where he got it from. Such a rare game ought to have a good story

[suppafly]

those games were common here in Mexico...most ppl here love soccer abtove any other sport

[DreamTR]

Suupafly, I want to buy that game and the Dragon Ball releases in Mexico as well, any idea how much for each? I have paypal ready.

[suppafly]

I´ve seen TONS of dragon balls in the flea markets (at least 10 copies). But i CANT tell if theyre bootlegs. The case looks like from any US snes game.

[DreamTR]

The Dragon Ball games (even boxed) look like the late Majesco releases, which have a faded looking box. I am pretty sure that ISS is the same way, but I am unsure. I'll pay you $50 for that ISS right now if you wanted though.

[suppafly]

The Dragon Ball games (even boxed) look like the late Majesco releases, which have a faded looking box. I am pretty sure that ISS is the same way, but I am unsure. I'll pay you $50 for that ISS right now if you wanted though.

I´ll keep your offer in mind!

[DreamTR]

All right Suppafly. Let me know, I also have genesis stuff as well.

[D_N_G]

As far as we know, this game was not released in US or Canada

[v1rich]

That's right so I would think that people collecting US games would not even want it, especially considering that it is fairly common in South America.

[anagrama]

Not every collector automatically shuns any game not officially released within the borders of your 50 states.
Especially when it's widely acclaimed as being the best soccer game of it's era, and an interesting oddity for any collection aswell.

And it's not like it's on the same level as, say, Brazilian VCS carts - it's an official North American release, in the US cart shape. I don't collect NTSC SNES games, but if I did, I'd certainly want one of these.
Strikes me as being a similar situation to certain European releases - for example, Smurfs 2 (SMS) seems only to have been available in the Czech Republic and was never sold in the UK, but I wouldn't consider my collection 'complete' without it.

[DreamTR]

The problem is Nintendo does not even recognize it as a release for some reason, same with the Dragon Ball games that "look" bootleg.

[suppafly]

This game is a very special case. Im sure Konami intended to market it in the USA. Because it was packaged as a USA release, and AFAIK all the documents are in english too

Why would they sell a game to latin americans, if the booklet is in english? We all speak Spanish only!

Maybe they sold out their entire shipment in Mexico ...lol

BTW I secured this game last night. I will trade it for 3 games. I should have it by the end of the week

Do you think it´d be better to sell it on ebay? OR listen for offers in here?

Thanks everyone! LOL

[DreamTR]

suppafly, remember my offer please, or trade as well.

[suppafly]

No problem, I will remember all offers :D Thanks for your help!

[Predatorxs]

I'v mentioned this a few times in the past regarding ISS, I read a story a few years back, the guy being interviewed was head of Konami in Mexico, he and his team had to choose which title they were gunna release, it was either pop 'n' twin bee or ISS.

Since soccer is huge in mexico it got a mexican release. pop 'n' twin bee didn't, and neither got a US release, which in my mind is just f*ckin crazy both games are great, when i see some of the shit snes titles that got to be released, compared to the great games that didn't it hurts.. :(

I'm not saying that suppafly's pic is official.. ( though it does look official O_O ) but you'd need to see it up close to prove it's genuine.

Also follow these links and see what ya think, ISS is out there (in mexico) but there are alot of bootlegs too.

link one (http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/item?site=MLB&id=25744346)

Link Two (http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/item?site=MLB&id=25600963)

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[Predatorxs]

Sorry for the double post, but suppafly could you tell "us" about the cart and the cart code, is the code on the box and manual the same as the code on the cart? also is the cart label glossy or dull?

http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[DreamTR]

The glossy is the killer. All of those South American releases look like that, almost bootlegged like the late Majesco releases.

My offer of $50 is pretty good for that game, and I also offer $25 boxed for each Dragon Ball SNES game as well.

[Flack]

8. Please limit your topics to BUYING and SELLING items only. Asking questions of an item's worth or what a good price for an item doesn't really belong here. These type of questions should be posted in the video game forum (or ebay insanity if you see it on there. ) The only exception to this is an attempt to resolve a deal here. (ie. the orochi where are you? thread)

[Damon Plus]

ISSD is the best soccer game from the 16 bit era, and that includes the Genesis.

I think that 50 for the game is a bit too much, I´ve seen it selling for about 15$ complete, but the European one, where it´s a lot more common.

[DreamTR]

The game runs for about $11 with box on Brazilian auctions. $50 is more than fair for that game and trouble to ship it to the USA, I am being extremely generous. Also, why is that game not considered a bonafide release, but ISS 2000 is? Both are not on the official Nintendo list?

[16-bit]

ISSD is the best soccer game from the 16 bit era, and that includes the Genesis.

I think that 50 for the game is a bit too much, I´ve seen it selling for about 15$ complete, but the European one, where it´s a lot more common.

It is so the best 16-bit soccer game. Even better than the Neo Geo ones.

[portnoyd]

Also, why is that game not considered a bonafide release, but ISS 2000 is? Both are not on the official Nintendo list?

Ask the N64 editor. We stand by our stance that this, ISS, and Super Copa are not US releases until proven otherwise.

dave

[DreamTR]

Portnoyd, I am confused, there are two SNES soccer games for ISS? Also, what the heck is Super Copa?

[Damon Plus]

There are two: International Superstar Soccer and International Superstar Soccer Deluxe (a worthy upgrade, not like today sports games). I think that Super Copa is a Brazilian version of ISSD with the teams of that country.

And to 16-bit, notice I said 16-bit era. The Neo Geo was included in there. I said the Genesis because generally the Fifa series is considered the best, but it´s not.

[hydr0x]

Also, why is that game not considered a bonafide release, but ISS 2000 is? Both are not on the official Nintendo list?

Ask the N64 editor. We stand by our stance that this, ISS, and Super Copa are not US releases until proven otherwise.

dave

ignore my post... just the usual rant...

[badinsults]

I would suggest that it is not worth more than $15, as I said when you messaged me on IRC. For instance, Chavez II can be had complete for less than $15, and I imagine it is just as rare. I imagine Chavez II isn't as rare as is suggested, but that the majority of the carts are in Mexico. Nintendo has it on their official release list, and the back of the box does state "for sale in the US, Canada, and Mexico only", though it likely was never distributed outside of Mexico.

As for the DBZ games, I could almost guarantee they are pirates (look at my site for a few of them).

[DreamTR]

I still haev not recived an answer to the whole ISS Soccer thing. Are there TWO carts with BOXES that were released in Mexico/S.America called INternational Superstar Soccer, and a SEPARATE ONE called International Superstar Soccer DELUXE?

I don't think Chavez II is worth "only" $15 complete, that's a tough one to find complete regardless.

[hydr0x]

these exist:

International Superstar Soccer
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
Super Copa

hope that helps, no 2 ISS...

[DreamTR]

Now comes my second question of note, and most important since it directly points at portnoyd and DNG's list of SNES games.

Of those three games, which ones CONTAIN the US ESRB rating? That is the determining factor for a game to be released within our region, whether it be Mexico, USA, Canada; etc.

I notice the first ISS contains it according to this photo, which would constitute it being a US/Canada/Latin America release regardless of it even being LISTED on the SNES list. This is too similar to ISS 2000 for N64 which undergoes the same problem. ISS for SNES was FOR SALE in the United States, and distributed from other places. The area I live in is heavily into soccer games. Even GameDude sold the thing at one point. I would not say ISS and ISS2000 were common by any means, but they were both available in the Los Angeles region at one time or another.

[portnoyd]

Portnoyd, I am confused, there are two SNES soccer games for ISS? Also, what the heck is Super Copa?

ISS, ISS Deluxe, and Super Copa. Could have sworn there were two ISS titles for mexiSNES. Will the almighty ENORMIS drop in and clarify?

Super Copa. More of the same. Soccer, US lookin' cart, only released to South and Even More South of the Border.

There was supposed to be an entry in DPA about all three, but a snafu left them on the cutting room floor. My smart ass said 'let's put them in Non-US releases, as that's what they are believed to be', and then Non-US releases (read: Superfami) got the print axe... didn't realize that those three would go with 'em.

dave

[Predatorxs]

Ok in the UK.... International superstar soccer was the 1st ISS game, then a year later ISS:deluxe was released in esence it's like mario 1 and then mario 2 it's just the sequel!

They got released everywhere except the US... frickin crazy!!

And i'm sure you all know the snes ISS started off konami on the road to were we are today! Pro EVo soccer 4.. or in japan "winning eleven 8"


http://www.xs.dsl.pipex.com/avator/ms_ufo.gif..XS

[portnoyd]

Of those three games, which ones CONTAIN the US ESRB rating? That is the determining factor for a game to be released within our region, whether it be Mexico, USA, Canada; etc.

I've seen Super Copa before, but I'll be damned if I can remember the label right now.


I notice the first ISS contains it according to this photo, which would constitute it being a US/Canada/Latin America release regardless of it even being LISTED on the SNES list. This is too similar to ISS 2000 for N64 which undergoes the same problem. ISS for SNES was FOR SALE in the United States, and distributed from other places. The area I live in is heavily into soccer games. Even GameDude sold the thing at one point. I would not say ISS and ISS2000 were common by any means, but they were both available in the Los Angeles region at one time or another.

Ok. Go to Michigan. Find this game for sale. (No cheating!) Then maybe we'll make it a US release.

There is a reason the area you live in is heavily into soccer games. You do know you live 2 hours north of the Mexico border, right?

Note the bold. Distributed from say... south of the border? Maybe some copies leaked northward? Can you ask where GameDude got those games?

[Damon Plus]

There are two: International Superstar Soccer and International Superstar Soccer Deluxe (a worthy upgrade, not like today sports games). I think that Super Copa is a Brazilian version of ISSD with the teams of that country.

And to 16-bit, notice I said 16-bit era. The Neo Geo was included in there. I said the Genesis because generally the Fifa series is considered the best, but it´s not.

Has anyone seen this post? Why is everyone asking about how many ISS games exist? :hmm:

[DreamTR]

portnoyd, I know I'm pretty close to Mexico, and we have a large Hispanic influence even on buying/selling stuff downtown. However, the ESRB rating is a HUGE factor for it to be a bonafide North American release I would think. I know you might not see that game in Michigan, but it's similar to saying Mr. Pants was released in the USA based on box/art, ESRB, and it was only sold in Canada. I would say this has to be accounted for no matter how you look at it. I contacted Konami USA and Nintendo USA and I am awaiting word from them. Lots of games for other systems have weird territorial releases. hell, Cheetahmen II NEVER came out, but we treat that as released.

DAMON: I am asking how many of these games EXIST WITH THE ESRB RATING.

[Damon Plus]

I already knew you were asking for the ESRB rating. It´s only that I explained there were 2 ISS games with 1 variant and there were still people asking how many exist, I apologize for that.

[mikeetler]

portnoyd, I know I'm pretty close to Mexico, and we have a large Hispanic influence even on buying/selling stuff downtown. However, the ESRB rating is a HUGE factor for it to be a bonafide North American release I would think. I know you might not see that game in Michigan, but it's similar to saying Mr. Pants was released in the USA based on box/art, ESRB, and it was only sold in Canada. I would say this has to be accounted for no matter how you look at it. I contacted Konami USA and Nintendo USA and I am awaiting word from them. Lots of games for other systems have weird territorial releases. hell, Cheetahmen II NEVER came out, but we treat that as released.

In addition the the ESRB rating, if the part #'s are -USA that would also be a determining factor. It's Mr Pants is proving to be a problem for the GBA list since the part number I've seen is a -USA number, so is it a Non-US release or not?

Cheetahmen II isn't really a good example to compare it to. While it wasn't released by Active Enterprises, it was manufactured in the US and wholesaled by the manufacturer.

-Mike

[DreamTR]

Mr. Pants is strictly Canada with a North American release box. There's not too many of them in general, and it is going to be one of the rarest GBA games out there in the long run. a US release is NOT going to happen it looks like, though it's pretty easy now to get it while you still can. AS soon as someone skews those ISS numbers, we'll know for sure.

[Matt-El]

*Edited* sorry i screwed up somehow.

[D_N_G]

ISS Deluxe- I have only seen a UK version, if a Mexico release exists we will need proof

ISS - UK / Mexico

Chavez 2 - US / Mexico

Super Copa - Latin America Only




Mr. Pants is strictly Canada with a North American release box. There's not too many of them in general, and it is going to be one of the rarest GBA games out there in the long run. a US release is NOT going to happen it looks like, though it's pretty easy now to get it while you still can. AS soon as someone skews those ISS numbers, we'll know for sure.

Port and Myself did the US release list. The foreign release lists were supplemented by others. ISS Mexico version will definitely be added to next list, but not to U.S. Releases as the section is titled.

Even though it may have an ESRB rating and a possible USA part number. It is in the same boat as Mr Pants, a release was most likely scheduled. But never happened. So in this grey area of releases. the deciding factor is: was this title available to US retailers as an option to sale in retail outlets (other than importing)? The current answer is no, unless Konami replies with something otherwise




*Edit- Reviewing the original SNES List we had entries for ISS and Super Copa games, but they were cut for space constraints

[DreamTR]

DNG, thanks for that info. I understand waht you mean about the ISS "not" being a US release, but I think if proven to be original, it should be listed as such released in Mexico, but on the US released games list just because of the whole Mr. Pants, Iss2000 thing. ESRB is for sure, part number is needed, but suppafly seems to be holding on to it as if it is the holy graiil as of late!

[hydr0x]

ISS Deluxe- I have only seen a UK version, if a Mexico release exists we will need proof


eeeh, did you take a look at the picture provided within this topic?? here it is again, clearly the Deluxe version and it doesn't look like a bootleg to me and neither to the owner

http://e-galf.net/remates/iss.jpg

[DreamTR]

Where does it say "deluxe" in that pic?

[anagrama]

I'd definitely agree with DreamTR here - if it does have a -USA part number, it should be on the US Releases list (albeit with a note about it being generally distributed only in Mexico).

[hydr0x]

Where does it say "deluxe" in that pic?

the "ball" behind the "International Superstar Soccer" contains the word Deluxe, the golden thing, you know, here, take a look at a PAL ISS Deluxe Scan and you'll get it... ah damn can't find a scan right now, but the BALL-thingy is the Deluxe logo...

update, ok here's ISS Deluxe PAL for Mega Drive, see the Deluxe logo?

http://membres.lycos.fr/convins/iss1.jpg

[v1rich]

hmmm...
Ebay Brazil

http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/item?site=MLB&id=25928232

Looks just like the one the topic starter has. Wonder how it got all the way to brazil if it is from the US? This is not the first one I've seen on there.

I can't get to ebay mexico for some reason but I imagine that it is more of the same.

Edit: Ahh funny, I see one of the forum members asking about posting to USA. NESDREAM you are busted!

Also, it's a soccer game. Many of the rare sports games on SNES are soccer games, therefore it is very likely that this was canned for US release. ex: Hurricanes Soccer, Head On Soccer, Soccer Shootout. All R6 or R7.

[mikeetler]

hmmm...
Ebay Brazil

http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/item?site=MLB&id=25928232

Looks just like the one the topic starter has. Wonder how it got all the way to brazil if it is from the US? This is not the first one I've seen on there.

I can't get to ebay mexico for some reason but I imagine that it is more of the same.

Edit: Ahh funny, I see one of the forum members asking about posting to USA. NESDREAM you are busted!

Also, it's a soccer game. Many of the rare sports games on SNES are soccer games, therefore it is very likely that this was canned for US release. ex: Hurricanes Soccer, Head On Soccer, Soccer Shootout. All R6 or R7.

If you look closely at the Brazillian box, it's not the same. The one in the original post has a US ESRB rating, the Brazillian one has a localized rating symbol.

As for Mr Pants, it's under non-US releases despite the -USA part number and in the description it's stated that it was available in Canada. Until it shows up in a large US retailer (not a store that's likely to import it from Canada), it's gonna have to stay there.

@DreamTR - Any idea on the production numbers? There are two Majesco releases that are under 50K (Bookworm & Super Collapse II) that are definitely not going back to production and I'm curious if Mr Pants was in that area.

-Mike

[hydr0x]

If you look closely at the Brazillian box, it's not the same. The one in the original post has a US ESRB rating, the Brazillian one has a localized rating symbol.

lol, you're absolutely right, that's funny, makes it one more snes release! so in fact a Brazilian and a Mexiko/maybe USA release exist looks like you have to add another game to the list @DNG/portnoyd

[DreamTR]

I want to see a box for International Superstar SOCCER and NOT deluxe then for the SNES as well, would that mean there are TWO different soccer games with the ESRB in Mexico that are ISS?
V1Rich, there's nothing about me being busted, I bid on other auction sites randomly, and I sure did not hide my name, that's for certain!

Mikeetler: I can't tell you the exact numbers, but I can say they are MUCH less than 50,000 copies. It is still possible it might be released in the USA, but I seriously doubt it.

[v1rich]

Oh well, good thing I am not collecting any more. LOL

Considering that I would not sell it for less than $100. But I sell all my stuff high. You could probably get that for it if you waited long enough.

[portnoyd]

As for Mr Pants, it's under non-US releases despite the -USA part number and in the description it's stated that it was available in Canada. Until it shows up in a large US retailer (not a store that's likely to import it from Canada), it's gonna have to stay there.

Going to have to go with Sir Etler's rationalization here. Just replace Canada with Mexico, and Mr Pants with ISS/ISSD/Super Copa.

dave

[DreamTR]

V1rich, at least you admit you sell your stuff high. It was already said on this thread that ISS is readily available in Mexico, and at 3 times less of the price than you quoted.

Portnoyd: What need is there to be an ESRB rating then? They did not print that UNLESS the possibility of it for being for sale in the USA, and same goes for Mr. Pants.

[Ruudos]

ISS Deluxe is probably the SNES games I've played the most. The game is worth the money, even if it was dirt common.

I wonder if there would be such a discussion if some European discovered an unknown PAL version of some baseball SNES games. :P

[portnoyd]

Portnoyd: What need is there to be an ESRB rating then? They did not print that UNLESS the possibility of it for being for sale in the USA, and same goes for Mr. Pants.

SNES ESRB (http://www.esrb.org/search_results.asp?whichpage=1&pagesize=20&view=tle&count1=6&desID0=32&desID1=8&desID2=24&desID3=28&desID4=37&desID5=4&desID6=44&desID7=31&desID8=23&desID9=38&desID10=27&desID11=22&desID12=39&desID13=30&desID14=13&desID15=47&desID16=43&desID17=46&desID18=10&desID19=25&desID20=45&desID21=34&desID22=41&desID23=42&desID24=40&desID25=15&desID26=11&desID27=26&desID28=14&desID29=12&desID30=33&desID31=35&desID32=21&desID33=36&desID34=20&desID35=29&count2=36&platID0=12&platID1=17&platID2=18&platID3=19&platID4=20&platID5=32&platID6=42&platID7=5&platID8=34&platID9=33&platID10=22&platID11=39&platID12=3&platID13=6&platID14=43&platID15=41&platID16=36&platID17=24&platID18=11&platID19=30&platID20=25&platID21=37&platID22=46&platID23=26&platID24=13&platID25=14&platID26=31&platID27=7&platID28=8&platID29=15&platID30=10&plat31=Super+Nintendo&platID31=4&platID32=40&platID33=16&platID34=45&platID35=35&platID36=44&count3=37&pub=&key=&type=game)

Possibility does not mean it made out the door in the US.

[DreamTR]

Two separate emails confirming what I thought:
North American Release
International Superstar Soccer-Konami released in North America June 1995
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe-Konami released in North America November 1995.

Anything on the box as listed for SALE in USA, Canada, and Latin America only is considered a North American release, as apparently it is one entity. Similar to how European releases are grouped together for systems over there at least to "us" here in the United States. Apparently ISS and ISS Deluxe exist in this form both with ESRB ratings, so there is your answer, and to why it also contains USA part numbers and info like other releases such as ISS2000 and Mr. Pants.

[TheRedEye]

As a once-in-a-while section editor around here, I support the idea of regrouping our releases into something like North America, Japan, Europe, and World. I think production should dictate where a game is grouped, and not distribution. We can have solid facts on production, we can never know exactly where a game was distributed.

[mikeetler]

As a once-in-a-while section editor around here, I support the idea of regrouping our releases into something like North America, Japan, Europe, and World. I think production should dictate where a game is grouped, and not distribution. We can have solid facts on production, we can never know exactly where a game was distributed.

Makes sense. We have a country field that can be used for North American non-US titles that can be verified (Mr Pants). But would it be "Japan" or "Asia" and where would Australia fit in the mix (World or Europe(which would make more sense))?

-Mike

[anagrama]

As a once-in-a-while section editor around here, I support the idea of regrouping our releases into something like North America, Japan, Europe, and World. I think production should dictate where a game is grouped, and not distribution. We can have solid facts on production, we can never know exactly where a game was distributed.

100% agreed. Australia & Hong Kong/Asia might still cause headaches, but there will always be occasionally odd cases no matter how you break these things down.

[portnoyd]

As a once-in-a-while section editor around here, I support the idea of regrouping our releases into something like North America, Japan, Europe, and World.

Works for me. Depends on what DP says towards it though. Sizable overhaul it would be, changing US Releases to North American Releases, and the subsqeuent regrouping.

My vote on AU would be group with Europe. Hong Kong/Taiwan is a harder thing to define.

So, to threadjack a bit, anyone have a problem with making Sachen a World release? I just got the odded sensation of deja vu.. did we have this world release discussion before?

dave

[TheRedEye]

My vote on AU would be group with Europe. Hong Kong/Taiwan is a harder thing to define.

I'd group Australia with Europe, Hong Kong/Taiwan and Sachen as World. World would be a catch-all "other," in my eyes.

[hydr0x]

My vote on AU would be group with Europe. Hong Kong/Taiwan is a harder thing to define.

I'd group Australia with Europe, Hong Kong/Taiwan and Sachen as World. World would be a catch-all "other," in my eyes.

absolutely agreed, additonally i'd say:

South/Middle American NTSC = North America (or whatever you want to call that group=

South/Middle American PAL = Europe
South African PAL = Europe

[anagrama]

South/Middle American NTSC = North America (or whatever you want to call that group=

South/Middle American PAL = Europe
South African PAL = Europe

Surely they would all be World, no?
There's already the PAL Y/N field in the db to seperate those.

[hydr0x]

well, ok, but then Australia also has got to be World with PAL

[anagrama]

well, ok, but then Australia also has got to be World with PAL

I dunno, they have a lot more in common with European releases than the others you mentioned (and are often identical other than the barcode).
To me, they just seem to 'fit' better with the Euro games, though I'll go along with the general consensus on it. Could just label the category 'Europe/Australia' or something to avoid misunderstandings.

[hydr0x]

i could live with that ;)

[anagrama]

Anyway, it's all hypothetical until we get the word from the boss... :)

[kevincure]

Any of the data I sent in regarding Playstation releases (and anything on my own list) was based on the release divisions that Sony uses internally - that is, there is an area called NTSC-U/C that includes all North American releases. I'm not sure how Nintendo divied it up, but if the game was a) commercially released, and b) intended to play on North American Nintendo systems, then you should consider it in the same list as US releases. Was "Fifa 98: Rumbo al Copa Mundial" released in the US? I don't know, but I know that both Dangerboy and I found copies in the US, and it's an NTSC-U/C release with part number. I agree with DreamTR's reasoning in this thread.

[suppafly]

The game has arrived to me guys.

Check out this thread for all the pics!

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53716

[Duck Hunt]

The game runs for about $11 with box on Brazilian auctions. $50 is more than fair for that game and trouble to ship it to the USA, I am being extremely generous. Also, why is that game not considered a bonafide release, but ISS 2000 is? Both are not on the official Nintendo list?

Guhday,

I see you have a "Mortal Kombat 2 Expert" in your caption. I'm just curious, since this is a old school forum basically. How does that game relate to here? Not yanking your chain, or being a bugger about it, but I find that a bit odd.

Oh, yeah, my question: Does a MINT CONDITION BOXED Gyromite NES exist?

Cheers!