Anybody buy a DS just for their GBA games?

[Anthony1]

From what I understand, GBA games look absolutely great on the DS screen. Quite a bit better than the SP screen.

So the question is.... Has anybody here bought a DS specifically to play their GBA games?

I was thinking of doing the same thing, but I have a couple of problems with it.



1. Playing the GBA SP in bed is very enjoyable pastime. I didn't know how nice it could be to get under the covers and have your GBA SP in your hands and get down with Super Ghouls and Ghosts on your GBA SP. Very nice. I would do the same thing with the DS, but I don't think the DS would be anywhere near as comfortable to hold while laying down in bed.

2. The bottom of the DS would just get in the damn way. You aren't using the second screen, and you are holding this large device in your hands just to play GBA games on a better screen. When you only need the top screen is it really worth it to have the larger and heaver and less comfortable DS in your hands when you can have a nice little GBA SP?



Man, I wish Nintendo made a GBA SP: Special Edition using the same type of screen as the top screen of the DS.

[Bluteg]

I let my girlfriend play Wario Ware: Touched today on my DS and I took out my Legend of Zelda: LttP cart to play on a SP that was also with me. It looked very bad! It's like going from S-video to R<G>B its a slight upgrade in quality when you change, but once you go back it looks like shit.

[davidbrit2]

I find the d-pad on the SP to be vastly superior to that of the DS, so I pretty much only use it for DS games. You do not want to try playing Monkey Ball with the DS pad. Trust me.

[Half Japanese]

Save for Wario Ware, Mr. Driller and maybe Feel the Magic, there's nothign that appealing to me on the DS at the moment. If I were to buy one, it would definitely be another GBA.

[NintendoMan]

Yes, the games do just look absolutely amazing on the DS, GBA games that is! I think the DS is very comfortable, while being bigger than the GBA SP.

[njiska]

I like using my DS over the SP. Especailly with Super Mario advance 4. Jumping was a bitch on the SP, espically whil running. And i actually like the d-pad on the DS better then the SP. My only compalint is that they kept A and B as A and B. I find it much more comfortable to use Y and B.

[DaveD]

Until Warioware Touched, that is exactly why I bought a DS ---- just to see better for my GBA favorites, like Mario Golf, Bubble Bobble Old and New, the original WarioWare, etc. I had the exact same thought about the SP size with the DS quality screen. (Which is how it really should have been designed in the first place ---- I'm talking to you Nintendo. ) :/
I wouldn't be at all suprised to see yet another "Special Edition GBA SP" sometime in the near future. If it were $99 or lower, I'd probably sell the DS unless the software lineup improves soon.

[frodo2968]

I had a DS for about a day. Then I got rid of it. The game lineup is shit (overall), and it's not near as comfortable as the GBA SP. Just my opinion ;) .

[Anthony1]

I had a DS for about a day. Then I got rid of it. The game lineup is shit (overall), and it's not near as comfortable as the GBA SP. Just my opinion ;) .



Wow, that's pretty damn harsh!

That's actually a good idea though, maybe to buy one at a place that has a lenient return policy, and if I determine that it just isn't comfortable and I don't like the button setup of the D-pad, then I just return the thing and get my money back.


By the way, you can't change which buttons you want to be A and B? That's retarded.

[frodo2968]

Wow, that's pretty damn harsh!

That's actually a good idea though, maybe to buy one at a place that has a lenient return policy, and if I determine that it just isn't comfortable and I don't like the button setup of the D-pad, then I just return the thing and get my money back.


By the way, you can't change which buttons you want to be A and B? That's retarded.

Yeah, I know. But I can't believe that Nintendo actually put out the DS with such a small selection of games. They could've at least had a decent launch title, too x_x

And it doesn't even compare with the PSP

And I actually only paid $78 for mine with a cheap BIN on eBay...then I resold it for $135. So not only did I get to play the system, I made money on it. And yes, Metroid Prime Hunters is awesome. But that's not coming out for a while...

And yes, the button layout is retarded when it comes to playing GBA games. I have no clue why Nintendo did such a thing. It's VERY uncomfortable for playing SMB 3, anyhow.

[Bluteg]

Nintendo put out the N64 with 2 games and around 5-6 4 months after launch. DS has been out for about 3 months now and easily has twice the lineup as the N64 at its first Christmas holiday. True not all the DS games are quality but I wouldn't call Wayne Gretsky's 3D Hockey quality either.

[frodo2968]

Nintendo put out the N64 with 2 games and around 5-6 4 months after launch. DS has been out for about 3 months now and easily has twice the lineup as the N64 at its first Christmas holiday. True not all the DS games are quality but I wouldn't call Wayne Gretsky's 3D Hockey quality either.

Yes, but what was the competition like when the N64 came out?

Exactly ;). Not much really.

[Cmosfm]

I'm getting fed up with so many people downing the DS, you know, I find the DS to be one of the most used game systems I have. I absolutely love it and love JUST about all of the DS games I own....10 out of the current 14 released titles.

The only games I own that I don't care much for are Sprung and Spider-Man 2, and even those 2 games I've put in well over 5 hours each on.

The DS is an amazing piece of hardware, the games are excellent, the system is a dream come true. Honestly, you couldn't even begin to fathom how much I LOVE my damn Nintendo DS. And maybe if people would stop whining about the library and just BUY ONE and give a few of the games a chance, I think you'd love it too.

FYI, I'm also working on keeping track of all the DS releases, release dates, and any other important notes.

Sorry for the rant, I just can't stand to see my favorite system belittled.

[frodo2968]

Dude are you serious...the DS is your favorite system? O_O

[jonjandran]

Dude are you serious...the DS is your favorite system?

This coming from a person that bought the system , barely played it and then sold it.

And then has the nerve to say it doesn't compare to the PSP , which I'm sure he hasn't even played yet.

With this kind of posting how can you seriously think anyones going to take you serious ? Here come the pitchforks and "Fanboy" chanting.

[frodo2968]

Dude are you serious...the DS is your favorite system?

This coming from a person that bought the system , barely played it and then sold it.

And then has the nerve to say it doesn't compare to the PSP , which I'm sure he hasn't even played yet.

With this kind of posting how can you seriously think anyones going to take you serious ? Here come the pitchforks and "Fanboy" chanting.
Damn, look at the PSP lineup. And the graphics.

Then compare that to the DS lineup and the graphics.

I don't have a natural biasy (is that a word?) towards either one. It's just my opinion on the comparison.

[jonjandran]

Damn, look at the PSP lineup. And the graphics.

Then compare that to the DS lineup and the graphics.

I don't have a natural biasy (is that a word?) towards either one. It's just my opinion on the comparison.

Good lord. :roll:

What is it with this Generation and their "graphics" .

As has been shown time and time again , graphics will lose hands down to gameplay ALL the time. Catwoman sure looked pretty. Put that on the PSP and see how many sell. And I'm not saying the DS games are going to have more Gameplay than PSP games. But it's really pathetic to judge a system you haven't even played, especially when you're judging based on SCREENSHOTS. x_x

The PSP and the DS both will have good games. And thats what matters. And thats why a Hardcore Gamer will buy both and be happy , while a Fanboy will buy one and miss out.

[frodo2968]

Good lord. :roll:

What is it with this Generation and their "graphics" .

As has been shown time and time again , graphics will lose hands down to gameplay ALL the time. Catwoman sure looked pretty. Put that on the PSP and see how many sell. And I'm not saying the DS games are going to have more Gameplay than PSP games. But it's really pathetic to judge a system you haven't even played, especially when you're judging based on SCREENSHOTS. x_x

The PSP and the DS both will have good games. And thats what matters. And thats why a Hardcore Gamer will buy both and be happy , while a Fanboy will buy one and miss out.
I despise that. I don't care about graphics! Unless it's a sports game, for example. Why play Madden 2005 on the DS with it's uber-choppy graphics when I could play NFL Street 2 Unleashed on the PSP with silky smooth graphics?

I can play the LOTR: The Two Towers game for my GBA SP that I just bought and have fun. Are the graphics "good"? No. Do I mind? No.

I see games with insane graphics, with a gameplay style that I like, but does that mean I'll like the game? Not nescessarily. If the gameplay sucks, I won't play it. I love Pac-Man. I don't care for Halo. Circles/dots vs. 3D shiznit. Which would I take any day? Pac-man.

And what I'm getting pretty freakin sick of is people thinking that "oh, I'm older than he is, which means that what I think is better than what he thinks". You should be glad that some of us younger folks are into the classic scene.

And get off the fanboy subject. I am completely impartial about Sony and Nintendo or whatever. I don't care for the PS2. I prefer the GC. But I prefer the PSP over the DS. That's all their is to it.

Both systems are trying to do pretty much the same thing, and I think that the PSP is looking much better than the DS does.

[NintendoMan]

Well, only owning the system for one day is kinda weird. I mean yes, they don't have that strong of lineup yet, but they will. Nintendo wanted to get the DS out before the PSP and try to get a stronghold on a fanbase, before sony can. Which I think is great, even though the software number's weren't there.
I LOVE MY DS. The thing is great! AWESOME, infact! And while I only have 6 games at the moment, I do plan on getting every game released for it, and can't wait for some upcoming games like MarioKart, Animal Crossing, Goldeneye, Rayman, New SMB, Castlevania, and the list goes on for about 10 more games.

[Poofta!]

1. the ds is more confortable to play in bed than teh sp cause its wider, your hands dont have to come as close, less energy excerted, it just works better.

2. you can swtich what screen you want the gba games to be on, i prefer the top screen, it looks sharper for some reason.





if you got 150 bucks and you love gba games, the ds kicks ass. too bad theres only 1 ds game out...

[Anthony1]

DS owners are quite sensitive.


he he



Kinda sounds like what I was saying a month after buying a Sega 32X.

[PDorr3]

Dude are you serious...the DS is your favorite system?

This coming from a person that bought the system , barely played it and then sold it.

And then has the nerve to say it doesn't compare to the PSP , which I'm sure he hasn't even played yet.

With this kind of posting how can you seriously think anyones going to take you serious ? Here come the pitchforks and "Fanboy" chanting.
Damn, look at the PSP lineup. And the graphics.

Then compare that to the DS lineup and the graphics.

I don't have a natural biasy (is that a word?) towards either one. It's just my opinion on the comparison.

to tell you the truth the PSP's line up isnt looking too good, and its graphics do not show through on all the games, I mean just look at MGS:Acid its only a step up from what a DS can do.

There is nothing wrong with the DS line-up. Sure it lacks a ton of games, but look at every other systems launch, basicaly all of them have nothing but bad-OK games and maybe one good one.

Dont compare the DS to the PSP, they are both TOTALY different systems despite them both being handhelds. And dont even mention graphics...thats just lame x_x

[jonjandran]

I despise that. I don't care about graphics! Unless it's a sports game, for example. Why play Madden 2005 on the DS with it's uber-choppy graphics when I could play NFL Street 2 Unleashed on the PSP with silky smooth graphics?

I can play the LOTR: The Two Towers game for my GBA SP that I just bought and have fun. Are the graphics "good"? No. Do I mind? No.

I see games with insane graphics, with a gameplay style that I like, but does that mean I'll like the game? Not nescessarily. If the gameplay sucks, I won't play it. I love Pac-Man. I don't care for Halo. Circles/dots vs. 3D shiznit. Which would I take any day? Pac-man.

And what I'm getting pretty freakin sick of is people thinking that "oh, I'm older than he is, which means that what I think is better than what he thinks". You should be glad that some of us younger folks are into the classic scene.

And get off the fanboy subject. I am completely impartial about Sony and Nintendo or whatever. I don't care for the PS2. I prefer the GC. But I prefer the PSP over the DS. That's all their is to it.

Both systems are trying to do pretty much the same thing, and I think that the PSP is looking much better than the DS does.

Well you're free to have an opinion , even if that opinion is based on PURE Speculation.

You say you don't care about graphics but that is the ONLY reason you suggested the PSP would be better than the DS.

You say you're impartial but you judge systems based on one day of play and NO DAYS of play.

Then you say I should be glad kids are in the retro scene. Yea kids who have been taught in school to actually think and reason. :roll:

Sorry if you think I'm being harsh , but lack of good reasoning tends to make my head hurt.

[frodo2968]

No. I did not give graphics as the only reason. And again, the only time graphics concern me is when it's a sports game that is MEANT to look great. And that's where the PSP wins.

I'm not saying that the DS won't have good games or won't be a good system. I just don't see how people can have it as their favorite system before games like Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, GoldenEye, etc have even come out. I mean, are you actually saying that the DS is your favorite system of all time because of the current games? Ping Pals? Madden 2005? Ridge Racer DS? Spiderman 2? Zoo Keeper? Sorry, but I'm just not seeing how you can call those quality titles, ones that make the DS your favorite system...

And about the PSP's linuep...I can't see how you can say that it's lacking in good titles. THUG 2 Remix, GTA PSP, FF VII, NFSU Rivals, Coded Arms, NBA Street Showdown, NFL Street 2 Unleased, Burnout, etc. I am very much looking forward to those.

And considering that graphics are usually dumbed-down when put into a screenshot, I think this is pretty impresive for a handheld:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/006/925748_20050107_screen006.jpg

[Cmosfm]

I despise that. I don't care about graphics! Unless it's a sports game, for example. Why play Madden 2005 on the DS with it's uber-choppy graphics when I could play NFL Street 2 Unleashed on the PSP with silky smooth graphics?

I can play the LOTR: The Two Towers game for my GBA SP that I just bought and have fun. Are the graphics "good"? No. Do I mind? No.

I see games with insane graphics, with a gameplay style that I like, but does that mean I'll like the game? Not nescessarily. If the gameplay sucks, I won't play it. I love Pac-Man. I don't care for Halo. Circles/dots vs. 3D shiznit. Which would I take any day? Pac-man.

And what I'm getting pretty freakin sick of is people thinking that "oh, I'm older than he is, which means that what I think is better than what he thinks". You should be glad that some of us younger folks are into the classic scene.

And get off the fanboy subject. I am completely impartial about Sony and Nintendo or whatever. I don't care for the PS2. I prefer the GC. But I prefer the PSP over the DS. That's all their is to it.

Both systems are trying to do pretty much the same thing, and I think that the PSP is looking much better than the DS does.

Well you're free to have an opinion , even if that opinion is based on PURE Speculation.

You say you don't care about graphics but that is the ONLY reason you suggested the PSP would be better than the DS.

You say you're impartial but you judge systems based on one day of play and NO DAYS of play.

Then you say I should be glad kids are in the retro scene. Yea kids who have been taught in school to actually think and reason. :roll:

Sorry if you think I'm being harsh , but lack of good reasoning tends to make my head hurt.

I'm in agreeance with jonjandran here, because honestly, all you did state was the graphics.

You know, the Game.Com had Fighters Megamix, Sonic Jam, Resident Evil 2....that's a hell of a lineup if you ask me.....but what does that mean other than "big names"?


I mean, are you actually saying that the DS is your favorite system of all time because of the current games? Ping Pals? Madden 2005? Ridge Racer DS? Spiderman 2? Zoo Keeper? Sorry, but I'm just not seeing how you can call those quality titles, ones that make the DS your favorite system...

Give me a fucking break, you're as biased as EGM. You named off all the bottom line games, I don't own Ping Pals or Madden and Spider-Man 2 sucks. Ridge Racer is decent and Zoo Keeper is awesome, not that you'd know, cause you only owned your DS for ONE DAY. I can't insert enough :roll: to express how I feel here.

You want quality titles, here's some for you....Feel The Magic, Mr. Driller, Super Mario 64, Wario Ware, Zoo Keeper, Tiger Woods.....

.....Yeah, it's my favorite system. I love it! I will be buying a PSP as well, because unlike you, I'm not a biased fanboy who dumps a system after one measly day.

[frodo2968]

Shut up. I did not only mention graphics. I mentioned the LINEUPS, as well as the former.

YOU can like your DS. I like it too. All I'm fucking saying is that I'd take a PSP over the DS any day.

[davidbrit2]

I think one of these days we'll see a thread about a current-gen Nintendo system that doesn't erupt into "fanboy" flames before the 2nd page. Oh well, maybe next time.

[frodo2968]

...or accusations of people being fanboys...

Farewell DP. At least for the most part...

It's just not the same anymore...

[Ze_ro]

Perhaps a little off-topic (or maybe not considering the recent turn of this thread), does anyone know if it's possible to program a standard GBA game that takes advantage of the DS's extra features? Sort of like how some GBA games can do things like rumble when played in a GB Player. It would be very neat to see "dual mode" games that play fine on a GBA, but gain some extra features when played on a DS.

--Zero

[Crush Crawfish]

Perhaps a little off-topic (or maybe not considering the recent turn of this thread), does anyone know if it's possible to program a standard GBA game that takes advantage of the DS's extra features? Sort of like how some GBA games can do things like rumble when played in a GB Player. It would be very neat to see "dual mode" games that play fine on a GBA, but gain some extra features when played on a DS.

--Zero

I think that's within the realm of possiblity. I know some GBC games (The Zelda oracles, Shantae) had extra features when played on a GBA, so I think some developers might implement a similar feature with the DS.

[Anthony1]

Wow.....


The system loyalty that's being displayed is pretty damn impressive. You guys really care passionately about your systems. That's great, better to be overly passionate about something, then to just be blase about it.


My own personal take on the DS and the PSP, is that the DS really doesn't impress me right now, I would like one for the screen and playing GBA games. I'm just not sure about the size of the thing, from a pure comfort standpoint. Some of the control schemes bother me as well, I have no plans to ever use a damn stylus while I'm playing a game. That just doesn't interest me. Right now, there isn't a particular DS game that makes me want to spend the cashola on a DS right now. Although, if it was $99, I would get one just for the screen alone, and to play GBA games on it. I'm sure at some point there will be some seriously compelling games coming for the DS in the near future, but right now, I can pass on it.


As for the PSP, I have some issues with that as well. The price is damn high, I understand why, the thing is pretty decent kit mate. But again, the price is damn high. Also, I'm not sure if I'm cool with the damn buttons. Aren't the buttons like smooth with the surface of the unit? I hate that shit! Come on, stop trying to be freaking sexy, and give me some decent damn buttons! Graphically, the games look freaking amazing, but the proof will be in the pudding. I definitely want a PSP, but with that huge price, I'm going to pass on this system as well. At some point I will definitely get one though, and I'm sure I will eventually get a DS as well.



Hey, I do have a question for those of you that have a DS, and have somehow actually sampled a PSP...... Do either of the systems have any kind of rumble or force feedback?

[Jasoco]

I hate the positioning of the DS's A and B buttons when playing GBA games. I end up going back to my crappilly lit SP to play them because Nintendo decided not to allow me to use the Y and B buttons instead. Probably my only complaint about the DS. :/

I LOVE the screen of the DS. I can see it even in flourescent light, but the buttons are the deal breaker for GBA playing. At least most games. Some I don't mind, but games that require lots of holding and tapping of the other button are a no go.

[Bluteg]

The N64 only went up against the arguablely most successful console ever (PSX)!

[Necromutant]

I have a DS and right now it is mostly collects dust... no big deal though, I know that it will have it's good times later. I am dying to get the new Advance Wars DS when it comes out as well as the Castlevania to a lesser extent. When those games are in hand my system will get plenty of love. Until then it is all about the SP, you do gain some sharp picture with the ds playing GBA games, but I would rather stick with my sp because of the fact that that the games are scaled on the SP screen and the fact I can put the SP in my pocket while carrying my keys, wallet etc and still be comfortable. The DS is too big to do that for me.

As far as GBA format games that take advantage of the the DS features, I think it has already been done, the new homebrew ds tetris installed on a GBA flash card does it I believe (with the help of some other software I can't remember the name of right now). It is a DS game that you can load onto a GBA flash card and play. When the emulators can take advantage of this I will be in heaven, SNES and Genesis emulation on the DS for sure (full speed and good that is). Can't wait till it is available! :D