Top 10 rarest Playstation games UPDATED!

[Doonzmore]

Well it has been some time since i updated this but after some research here is what i finally came up with for the top 10 rarest Playstation games:

1 Elemental Gearbolt Assassin's Case Edition
2.NBA 2 Ball
3.Titan A.E Demo Disk
4.Lightspan series
5.Team Buddies
6.Psychic Detective
7.Fox Hunt
8.Silverload
9.Starblade Alpha
10.X-Com UFO Defense

This list is most likely not 100% accurate so no one by any means should go by this list. Unfortunately, the school newspaper which i was writing this for, would not accept any more articles as I was already doing a video game review section for the paper. Those by the way, turned out to look a lot more professionally done compared to the other unorganized articles in it. :roll:

[Lemmy Kilmister]

I don't really know. Besides all those Lightspan learning games, what else could there be? Maybe Gulity Gear?

[Kroogah]

Silverload is way up there, maybe Starblade Alpha too. Dangerboy and PapaStu are the peeps you should talk to.

[fishsandwich]

Would you count the original release of Draganball Z: Final Bout? I know the re-release is very common, but it has different artwork and was printed by a different publisher.

Me no know.

:/

[Arcade Antics]

Just use our handy online rarity guide and search for games with a scarcity >=7. :D

[Cmosfm]

I'm STILL kicking my ass for stupidly leaving Psychid Detective complete at EB for 7.99

....I didn't know the rarity.

GAH!!!!!!!

:(

[Crush Crawfish]

Hmmm...Just out of curiosity, how do you go about making a report on rare PS1 games? Like, What are going to write about? Descriptions of the games, why they're rare, stuff like that, I assume?

[Doonzmore]

Brief background history on how they became rare, how much they sell for and how much there worth. :D

[Doonzmore]

I was just looking through the guide and i noticed it gave the premium YU Gi Oh game an 8 and valued it at 80 bucks. My local K-Mart has that game for 35. I'll be right back...

[thehistorian]

What about "Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure" DP lists it as a 5 yet it pulls in the cash on ebay...

[Dangerboy]

I figured I'd toss in some ideas here to help with the report:

1 Elemental Gearbolt Assassin's Case Edition
If you going to consider this rare, it should be noted that it was a custom made promitional item with no official SLUS / PSRM assignment. Given away as prizes as well, it kind of limits who had access to it.

2. NBA 2 Ball
Especially collectible since the 'game' it was based on no longer exists. Another promo item, but an official release. So far only...2 or 3 confirmed.

3.Lightspan series
Never available for retail, and you had to be a school with some serious cash to get these. Most of the early printed series like "Write Away" have become very rare. You can check out the brief history of the company here:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/playstation_perfect_guide/lightspan/index.html

4. Team Buddies

5. Psychic Detective
6. Fox Hunt

Both Full Motion Video games...a dying breed that thankfully was laid to rest on the PSX.

7. Silverload

Many times it's not so much the game itself that is rare, but a specific version of a game that's a pain in the ass to find. Several examples:

a. Space Hulk Long Box edition
One of the very last releases before Sony swapped over to the jewel cases, there has so far only been 1 confirmed of this in existence, and it wasn't even complete.

b. Street Fighter EX + Alpha / X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
The very first releases of both games had a either a phone card (SF) or a movie ticket (X-men) in them, and advertised as such. So far I have only been able to locate ONE copy of the movie ticket itself, and the phone card is proving most elusive. Both games noted the enclosures on the manual, so when the promo was over, the manuals were changed.

Alundra CD Artwork variations
More Papastu's bag then mine (for now), Working Designs supposedly made 9 different CD covers, with a possible 9 different back inserts. So far Stu has tracked down 8 of the 9 CDs, and 6 of the possible 9 back inserts.

What's strange is that while the back inserts have PSRM number that match the corresponding disc, they were all packaged randomly or at least partially randomly. This 9th variant and last 3 insert variants have still eluded both Stu and myself for over a year since we started the research.

Syphon Filter 3 Pre 9/11 Release
The pre-9/11 is a theory, but it could also have been the anthrax scare. The original cover shows Gabe and Xiam inside what looks like a presidential/government building with the AMerican flag waving and the SF virus rising from the ground. This only saw a *very* limited print run, and instead the cover was changed to the now current boring one with just their faces.

Hope this helps, you can check out some of these at:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/playstation_perfect_guide/releasedgames/index.html
or
http://www.game-rave.com/variant/index.html

Hope this helps,
Jason

[Doonzmore]

Thanks for the help!

Silverload seems to be a good canidate, im debating on wether to put that Yu-Gi-Oh or Walt Disney Watch game on this list.

[Doonzmore]

a. Space Hulk Long Box edition
One of the very last releases before Sony swapped over to the jewel cases, there has so far only been 1 confirmed of this in existence, and it wasn't even complete.

b. Street Fighter EX + Alpha / X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
The very first releases of both games had a either a phone card (SF) or a movie ticket (X-men) in them, and advertised as such. So far I have only been able to locate ONE copy of the movie ticket itself, and the phone card is proving most elusive. Both games noted the enclosures on the manual, so when the promo was over, the manuals were changed.

Alundra CD Artwork variations
More Papastu's bag then mine (for now), Working Designs supposedly made 9 different CD covers, with a possible 9 different back inserts. So far Stu has tracked down 8 of the 9 CDs, and 6 of the possible 9 back inserts.

What's strange is that while the back inserts have PSRM number that match the corresponding disc, they were all packaged randomly or at least partially randomly. This 9th variant and last 3 insert variants have still eluded both Stu and myself for over a year since we started the research.

Syphon Filter 3 Pre 9/11 Release
The pre-9/11 is a theory, but it could also have been the anthrax scare. The original cover shows Gabe and Xiam inside what looks like a presidential/government building with the AMerican flag waving and the SF virus rising from the ground. This only saw a *very* limited print run, and instead the cover was changed to the now current boring one with just their faces.


Hmm..not sure wether or not i should include variations in this or just actuall games.

[Crush Crawfish]

Brief background history on how they became rare, how much they sell for and how much there worth. :D

Sounds great! Will you post it here when you're done? :D

[Doonzmore]

Brief background history on how they became rare, how much they sell for and how much there worth. :D

Sounds great! Will you post it here when you're done? :D


Sure thing! It probably won't as great of quility if someone like Dangerboy were to do it but i'll try to keep it from looking amateurish. :D

[mikeetler]

I was just looking through the guide and i noticed it gave the premium YU Gi Oh game an 8 and valued it at 80 bucks. My local K-Mart has that game for 35. I'll be right back...

The Premium Edition included 3 exclusive Yu-Gi-Oh cards and does indeed sell for $60-100 factory sealed. $80 for a used one is way over the top. The standard version did not include cards and sells for $15-20 sealed.

-Mike

[Crush Crawfish]

which of the ones listed in the first post are actually cool games that are fun to play? I read a review that was enthusiastic about Team Buddies. Was that one common in its PAL release?

I've heard that the PAL version is much easier to find. And yes, Team buddies is a great game. It's difficult to explain though...It's sort of like an RTS, except you actually control the guys, but you still need to create weapons and troops by stacking blocks. It's really tough too! Seek it out if you can.

[Spartacus]

I'v got to disagree about Silverload.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8164129625
That's me with a high bid of $6.20 and there seems to be very little interest for it.

[Kid Ice]

I'v got to disagree about Silverload.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8164129625
That's me with a high bid of $6.20 and there seems to be very little interest for it.

Don't confuse value w/ rarity.

And if you can get the game for cheap, get it. It might be another 5-10 years until Playstation collecting picks up value wise.

[Vroomfunkel]

I read a review that was enthusiastic about Team Buddies. Was that one common in its PAL release?

You can't go two steps on ebay UK without tripping over a PAL copy of this game. You can pick it up for less than $10 easy. Sealed copy might set you back maybe $30 - $40 .. max. I'm pretty sure that Castlevania Chronicles is enormously more common in PAL than in NTSC version.

Vroomfunkel

[Aussie2B]

And there's only one other besides that one that I'm wondering about. Castlevania Chronicles. I don't believe that it's listed as rare in the rarity guide, but I've heard here that it is. And the going prices for it on ebay, especially factory sealed, are even more than that $75 R7 that I want. So what's up with that? I heard that it was only $20 when it was released a year or two ago, and my stupid ass didn't get it. Now it's rapidly approaching Radiant Silvergun status, at the rate that it's going, and no doubt it will become the first $500 PSX game pretty soon. So I'd like to get it too, but first I want to get that other R7 that I want.

You sure you aren't exaggerating those eBay prices a little bit? The last half year or so I was casually watching Castlevania Chronicles on eBay, since I had bought a second copy and I was looking for the right time to sell. They go for a fair chunk of change, but not THAT much. I ended up selling mine, a very mint copy, for $40, and I think I did well. I've seen other complete copies sell for around $30, and I've seen factory sealed ones sell for $60.

However, I disagree with Dangerboy regarding its rarity. While it's great if you can still get it for its original MSRP, I don't think that people shouldn't be paying more than $20 for it. I saw them when it was new too, but even most of the R7 games could have been found fairly easily when they were brand new. I believe it's already been confirmed that the print run in the US was rather low, and it's got all the signs of a future rarity. I mean, it was released very late in the PlayStation's life, and it had a low print run and low price indicating that Konami didn't expect the game to be a massive seller so they aimed to have the low price point move all the stock. When you add in the fact that it's an extremely good game that it very hard to get in its original X68000 form and it's a part of a very popular series, you got the making of a title that is only bound to go up in rarity and value. It may never reach $100, but I expect it to go up at least a bit more before it stabilizes.

[qbertandernie]

DOONZMORE: if youd like to have an example of an R8 lightspan game as a visual aide, PM me...ive got 50 of em for sale.

*ducks onslaught of rotten vegetables and shoes*

[Famidrive-16]

I'm STILL kicking my ass for stupidly leaving Psychid Detective complete at EB for 7.99

....I didn't know the rarity.

GAH!!!!!!!

:(

I'm an idiot when it comes to PSX games too. I once left a complete Guilty Gear at Gamecrazy once.

Of course, it was the same day I got GGX2 so I didn't really care anyways. But I'm still a bit :( over it.

[SoulBlazer]

Castlevania Chronicles had a print run of 50,000.

I sold mine last month for $45. :)

[Spartacus]

Castlevania Chronicles is priced at $26.99 by EB games. That's where I picked up mine. If you can also take advantage of one of their constantly rotating BOGO deals, that would seem to be the place you'd like to find it.

[dreamcaster]

Where would the promotional copy versions of PSX games fit rate on the rarity scale?

I have a couple of them - King of Fighters '95 and RayStorm (PAL).

A description for those who might not be sure of what I'm talking about:

Basically, they're packaged in slightly thicker than a slim-line CD case, and as such, only have a front cover and no manual. On the inside cover, which has the standard game description with pictures, is a label saying: "For Display Purposes Only". The disc itself is three quarters black, with the bottom quarter silver (looks like a standard demo disc) and states at the bottom in multiple lanaguages: "Promo Only - Not For Resale". These are full versions of the game though, not demos.

A friend of mine explained to to me that these versions would've been sent out to some stores to display/play in kiosks or to some magazines for reviewing purposes.

Just wondering how rare DP would consider them. :)

[Promophile]

I'm STILL kicking my ass for stupidly leaving Psychid Detective complete at EB for 7.99

....I didn't know the rarity.

GAH!!!!!!!

:(

I actually found it at a local game store complete a few weeks ago for like 14 dollars. I looked it up on DP when I got home, then rushed back to pick it up. There was also a longbox copy of Braindead 13, but it was gone when I got there. I guess some other collector spotted it.

[Griking]

And we have this week's winner for worst...comparison... ever. Panesian games were 3 games that were simply pornographic hacks of existing NES Games that were unlicensed, poorly made, and had little to do with Nintendo themselves.

I never knew that the Panesian games were just hacks of existing NES games. What games were they hacks of?

[Promophile]

erm I know next to nothing about the NES, but I don't think ALL of their games were hacks. All I remeber reading about that was a hack was some Menace Beach porno hack with Princess Peach on the cover.

[kevincure]

Here's my list:

Among official US releases (not counting variants):
Team Buddies, Psychic Detective, Fox Hunt, True Pinball, Braindead 13, Roadsters, V-Tennis, Viva Soccer, Easter Bunny's Big Day, Adidas Power Soccer 98, Blockids and a few of the late releases.

Among variants, I think we've left out Rumbo a la Copa Mundial. How many of these have we found - 2 or 3? Not many. Of course the Assassin's Case is very rare, as is the Space Hulk longbox, and 2Ball is definitely the rarest demo. I don't think we should say "Lightspan Games" - the second run of games must have had x0000's of each title printed, but the 1996/7 titles had much smaller runs.

That said, there are no "full releases" that are that rare for PSX. I've personally seen Team Buddies, Silverload (three times), V-Tennis, Viva Soccer, Psychic Detective (twice), DB:FB (original release twice), Braindead 13, Roadsters, Fox Hunt (twice), all of the late releases and Rumbo for sale.

[vintagegamecrazy]

Someone mentioned Raystorm, and I have to ask why the heck did that game get so rare, I found a copy back in the day, but aside from mine I rarely seen others.

About Lightspan,

1 Will those games ever see separate rarities and prices in the guide, or they all about the same in rarity.

2 Will they ever gain value individually or will they always share the same value overall

3 Is there some that might only be like an R7 and some that are maybe an R9?

[StealthLurker]

Is ZANAC considered rare? ...or just rare to "us" westerners?



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[Dangerboy]

About Lightspan,
1 Will those games ever see separate rarities and prices in the guide, or they all about the same in rarity.


The rarities can easily be classified into three eras:
1. Original Releases, around 1997,97 = R8s to R9s
2. Mid era to closing era releases = R5s/6s
3. The hardware = R9/R10*

*This will is proving huge interesting finds...research has now expanded to 3 different companies and some wackass googling...more when it's concrete.



2 Will they ever gain value individually or will they always share the same value overall


More than likely as we see which ones schools ordered the most of, we'll be able to tell. As far as "for sure" , the 1st era ones will sky rocket due to low, low print runs.

I think each era will maintain the same Rs, but we'll wait and see.



3 Is there some that might only be like an R7 and some that are maybe an R9?


I can already mention an R9...at least within the PSX list itself. By Joe's rules, this one can't be ruled on yet. Again, most of these would be original releases, and the hardware.

[Aussie2B]

Someone mentioned Raystorm, and I have to ask why the heck did that game get so rare, I found a copy back in the day, but aside from mine I rarely seen others.

Well, dreamcaster was talking about a PAL promo version, but the normal US release is considered an R7. I too saw a copy several years back (I think it was a used copy at a GameStop or EB), but I haven't come across a single other copy since. If you check eBay, sometimes there will be a few listed (often incomplete), but other times you'll only find one or two listed (or even none at times).

However, it's still pretty cheap. You could easily get a copy for $15 (total) on eBay, and I got one for about $8 just a couple weeks ago. Really great game too. :) It'll be interesting to see what the future has in store for the title. Shmup fans are pretty hardcore about their genre and have a tendency to bring well-liked titles with limited print runs up sky high.

[WanganRunner]

Dangerboy: When you reference the lightspan hardware, what exactly are you talking about? Were the actual PSXs any different from retail units, in model number or otherwise?

I passed on an auction with a number of lightspan titles and the PSX that came with them awhile ago. I contacted the seller to try and ascertain whether or not it was some kind of special unit, but nothing I heard sounded like it supported that.

[pragmatic insanester]

-goes and picks up the longbox silverload that's been collecting dust at his flea market- HAHAHAHAHA. i might sell it off. i had a post in the selling forum about the rest of the longboxes there

extra ROFL: braindead 13 is there too. :-)

[PapaStu]

Dangerboy: When you reference the lightspan hardware, what exactly are you talking about? Were the actual PSXs any different from retail units, in model number or otherwise?

I passed on an auction with a number of lightspan titles and the PSX that came with them awhile ago. I contacted the seller to try and ascertain whether or not it was some kind of special unit, but nothing I heard sounded like it supported that.

As far as i've been able to distinguish the PSOne's that were/are being sold thru Lightspan are just a PSOne with the Sony screen on them. I Highly doublt that Sony would go and make a special case or system run for this very small side project considering the amount of PSOne's still being produced and sold stateside. The cool thing to snag will be the Lightspan Cart that can hold all of your edutainment goodness. I know that DB has been babbling about killing for one on a few occasions.

[Tron 2.0]

Silentbomber well any time i look for a, U.S copy on ebay the price is high.

Suikoden II don't ya love how, Konami pulls it limted copy stunt x_x

[WanganRunner]

Suikoden II isn't that rare, it's just worth mucho dinero, not the same thing.

I just scored a US copy of "Populous: The Beginning" for PSX for $3 an hour ago on my lunch break, it's an R6. I need a manual for it though. It certainly ain't rare enough to end up on this list, but cool nonetheless.

I'll also trade it, preferably for other PSX stuff. PM me if you're interested.

[TheRedEye]

erm I know next to nothing about the NES, but I don't think ALL of their games were hacks. All I remeber reading about that was a hack was some Menace Beach porno hack with Princess Peach on the cover.

This is wrong in lots of ways, so I'll give a brief summation.

Panesian released slightly hacked versions of games originally released in Taiwan by their developer, Hacker International. This is not unheard of. in fact, a good majority of American Video Entertainment's games were slight variations of Hacker International originals. These were all legit, of course. The software was licensed by these American manufacturers, and they were produced and sold.

The Princess Peach hack you mentioned is not a Panesian game at all. It is, in fact, a weird reversal in roles...Hacker International licensed the Color Dreams game, and gave it a slight hack and release in Taiwan.

So! Slight summary, since this is confusing:

The American company Panesian licensed and sold three games from the Taiwanese company Hacker International.

Taiwanese company Hacker International licensed and sold Menace Beach from American company Color Dreams, and added boobies.

These deals were unreleated, pretty much all of the unlicensed NES game producers worldwide were sleeping with each other at the time. HES in Australia was the biggest whore.

[Doonzmore]

I really need help on these last few guys, DBZ Final Bout and Silverload are musts, what would the other be? Heres a few nominies:


Braindead 13
Pool Hustler
Magic Carpet

CAST YOUR VOTE

[Doonzmore]

What the hell is Rumbo?

[Dangerboy]

Actually...I would put Backstreet Billiards above Pool Hustler...been trying to find a replacement case for mine, and it never comes up on ebay.

Magic Carpet? eh....

And Fifa 98: Rumbo is a Spanish Langauge packaging variant of Fifa 98: Road to World Cup 98. You can check it out here:

http://www.game-rave.com/variant/fifa.jpg

[qbertandernie]

ive seen backstreet billiards....ill keep my eyes peeled.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I would take the Dragonball GT out from the list, expensive yes, but far from the rarest game.

I would put Raystorm, and Magic Carpet above that.

[Kid Ice]

Silentbomber well any time i look for a, U.S copy on ebay the price is high.


Oh boy oh boy oh boy.

The concept to me is really simple.

IT DOESN'T MATTER what the value is, and it "expessally" doesn't matter what it goes for on eBay.

I doubt many people have access to the production numbers. Therefore, you have to rely on word-of-mouth when determining RARITY.

RARITY. That is purely numerical.

About two million SOTNs are produced, and about 50,000 Castlevania Chronicles are produced. It doesn't matter if they sell for the same price.

I haven't seen a PSX Raystorm in the wild for years, yet when I bought mine at Circuit City back in the day they had a bazillion of them, as did Gamestop and EB. So obviously someone bought those other bazillion copies, therefore it can't be all that rare. It sells on eBay for the same price as Fox Hunt because Raystorm is a kick-ass Working Designs shooter, and Fox Hunt sucks. Fox Hunt is rare, and Raystorm is NOT.

Is it that hard to understand?

[Queen Of The Felines]

I have seen many, many, MANY (well, not TOO many LOL) R5+ games in the wild that go for less than $10 because so far not too many people have either heard about it or care to play it. Billards? Tennis? Pfft, gimme Metal Gear or Grand Theft Auto.

Roadsters for $7.
Populous for $3.
Backstreet Billiards for $5.
Various longbox games for $5 or less.
Poy Poy for $7.
Shangai: True Valor for $8.
Pool Hustler for $5.

Prices mean NOTHING in regards to rarity.

Kristine

[Big Papa Husker]

I found ANOTHER FoxHunt at another game store for $14.99 so I bought it. That brings me up to 2 FoxHunts... hehehe.

Also, what is the difference between a silver cover/black cover Wipeout Longbox?

How much does a complete Silverload go for? (they had it for $20)

Is the FF7 with the misspelled "masterpiece" worth any more than the others?

[WanganRunner]

Dammit Husker....I've got to go game shopping in Omaha. You find ridiculous stuff like twice a day....

[dj898]

how rare is gepy-x(?) JPN?

[Qixmaster]

I have seen many, many, MANY (well, not TOO many LOL) R5+ games in the wild that go for less than $10 because so far not too many people have either heard about it or care to play it. Billards? Tennis? Pfft, gimme Metal Gear or Grand Theft Auto.

Roadsters for $7.
Populous for $3.
Backstreet Billiards for $5.
Various longbox games for $5 or less.
Poy Poy for $7.
Shangai: True Valor for $8.
Pool Hustler for $5.

Prices mean NOTHING in regards to rarity.

Kristine

exactly... i sold that space hulk long box for 23 + shipping to some guy in california (ebay).

Also, i would have to completely agree with kevincure on the blockids and easter bunny. Those games are damn tough to find... and bring very little money, if not only an opening bid on ebay.

-Josh

[Big Papa Husker]

Anyone know about the Wipeouts or FF7? Im gonna go to after class and get them if they are worth it... They also had a complete jewel case Space Hulk for 10.

[bargora]

Anyone know about the Wipeouts or FF7? Im gonna go to after class and get them if they are worth it... They also had a complete jewel case Space Hulk for 10.
Wipeout -- Scarcity 1
Wipeout XL -- Scarcity 4
Wipeout 3 -- Scarcity 1
FFVII -- Scarcity 1

Were you serious? The "Searchable Game Lists" linked at the top of this page can help you avoid asking questions that make you look...badly uninformed.

Space Hulk (jewelcase) -- Scarcity 3
Space Hulk (longbox) -- Scarcity unknown but probably high, judging from what people are saying on the forums.

[bibowski]

Has anyone said Intelligent Qube?

Which, by the way is one of the coolest puzzle games I've ever played.

[Big Papa Husker]

I know how to look at the guide. Im asking about Variants of each game if they are rare and such. Im not badly uninformed about the rarity of the common copies (FF7 with no mispelling, etc). Im just wondering about the damn variants

[Qixmaster]

Anyone know about the Wipeouts or FF7? Im gonna go to after class and get them if they are worth it... They also had a complete jewel case Space Hulk for 10.

jewel case space hulk is common, the long box version is very rare.

-Josh

[Aussie2B]

I haven't seen a PSX Raystorm in the wild for years, yet when I bought mine at Circuit City back in the day they had a bazillion of them, as did Gamestop and EB. So obviously someone bought those other bazillion copies, therefore it can't be all that rare. It sells on eBay for the same price as Fox Hunt because Raystorm is a kick-ass Working Designs shooter, and Fox Hunt sucks. Fox Hunt is rare, and Raystorm is NOT.

Well, if these "bazillion" copies of Raystorm appear to have disappeared off the face of the planet, perhaps the game didn't sell very well and lots of unsold stock was shipped back to the manufacturer to either be destroyed or rot away in a warehouse? I mean, I seriously can't believe that there are THAT many hardcore Working Designs/Taito/shmup fans in the US that refuse to part with their copies.

As I said before, I watched Raystorm on eBay for a few months, and there were never very many copies listed at once (with some periods where there were none). I think that's a good indication that the game is pretty rare. Take a look at games like Castlevania Chronicles and Suikoden 2. Valuable, in demand, high quality games that people don't like to part with, yet you can always find numerous copies on eBay. They've earned their only moderately rare ratings of R5 and R4, respectively. Fox Hunt is definitely rarer than Raystorm, as seen by the lesser number of copies listed on eBay, so it's earned its R8. However, I also believe Raystorm has earned its R7, making it quite rare as well. I don't know if you got tons of R9 and R10 stuff in your collection, but I consider an R7 pretty damn rare. o_O

[Tron 2.0]

Silentbomber well any time i look for a, U.S copy on ebay the price is high.


Oh boy oh boy oh boy.

The concept to me is really simple.

IT DOESN'T MATTER what the value is, and it "expessally" doesn't matter what it goes for on eBay.

I doubt many people have access to the production numbers. Therefore, you have to rely on word-of-mouth when determining RARITY.

RARITY. That is purely numerical.

About two million SOTNs are produced, and about 50,000 Castlevania Chronicles are produced. It doesn't matter if they sell for the same price.

I haven't seen a PSX Raystorm in the wild for years, yet when I bought mine at Circuit City back in the day they had a bazillion of them, as did Gamestop and EB. So obviously someone bought those other bazillion copies, therefore it can't be all that rare. It sells on eBay for the same price as Fox Hunt because Raystorm is a kick-ass Working Designs shooter, and Fox Hunt sucks. Fox Hunt is rare, and Raystorm is NOT.

Is it that hard to understand?
Not realy then agian it doesn't take much.For a game to get over rated then the price sky rockets on "ebay" even if it's not... worth that much.I Don't supose you can tell me how many copys Bandai made?

PS:Please note when i last check for silentbomber it was at a high price.This was long ago probably change, by now not like it 'matters or any thing.

[dreamcaster]

So, can anyone give me any indication of the rarity of promo copies of PSX games?

It's the reason I mentioned RayStorm in the first place :P

[Big Papa Husker]

About those FF7 misprintings... about how many were made? Is it worth 10 to get the misprint?

[Dangerboy]

Misprints aren't usually worth anything, unless there is like, some major booboo.

I only collect them because they make great filler on a web page dedicated to games. =)

Jason

[Kid Ice]

I haven't seen a PSX Raystorm in the wild for years, yet when I bought mine at Circuit City back in the day they had a bazillion of them, as did Gamestop and EB. So obviously someone bought those other bazillion copies, therefore it can't be all that rare. It sells on eBay for the same price as Fox Hunt because Raystorm is a kick-ass Working Designs shooter, and Fox Hunt sucks. Fox Hunt is rare, and Raystorm is NOT.

Well, if these "bazillion" copies of Raystorm appear to have disappeared off the face of the planet, perhaps the game didn't sell very well and lots of unsold stock was shipped back to the manufacturer to either be destroyed or rot away in a warehouse? I mean, I seriously can't believe that there are THAT many hardcore Working Designs/Taito/shmup fans in the US that refuse to part with their copies.

As I said before, I watched Raystorm on eBay for a few months, and there were never very many copies listed at once (with some periods where there were none). I think that's a good indication that the game is pretty rare. Take a look at games like Castlevania Chronicles and Suikoden 2. Valuable, in demand, high quality games that people don't like to part with, yet you can always find numerous copies on eBay. They've earned their only moderately rare ratings of R5 and R4, respectively. Fox Hunt is definitely rarer than Raystorm, as seen by the lesser number of copies listed on eBay, so it's earned its R8. However, I also believe Raystorm has earned its R7, making it quite rare as well. I don't know if you got tons of R9 and R10 stuff in your collection, but I consider an R7 pretty damn rare. o_O

Well, apparently WD sold enough to bring out the sequel (Raycrisis).

Anyone holding their breath for Fox Hunt 2? :)

[Doonzmore]

This is proving to be very tough, nearly every game that recieved a 7 or 8 for rarity people have seen in the wild constantly. I feel pretty confident about the top 7 but i have no clue now as what the other 3 should be. I still think Silverload should be on there and DBZ Final Bout has quite a history behind it. And now there are these R3's like that Easter Bunny game that seen pretty hard to find. DAMN THIS IS TOUGH! How do people feel about Herc's Adventure?

[Big Papa Husker]

How much has Silverload been going for lately?

[Vroomfunkel]

How much has Silverload been going for lately?

Geez, before you start complaining too much about people saying you are uninformed perhaps you could try actually reading the whole thread. The answer is there. You just have to read it. :roll:

Vroomfunkel

[Aussie2B]

Well, apparently WD sold enough to bring out the sequel (Raycrisis).

Anyone holding their breath for Fox Hunt 2? :)

Since when does a game have to sell well for Working Designs to publish a sequel or some other game that likely won't sell well? :P If all companies were logical in that way, we wouldn't have been cursed with Cheetahmen 2. :P

Speaking of both Raystorm and Raycrisis, wasn't Raystorm the first Working Designs release under the "Spaz" line, and Raycrisis was the last? That makes a total of what, 4 Spaz releases total? If anything, that shows that those obscure Japanese action games just didn't sell well enough in the mainstream American market. I'd guess that Raycrisis was more of one last hurrah for the fans than an indication that Raystorm actually sold well.

[Aussie2B]

As for Herc's Adventure, I don't recall ever seeing one in the wild, not even new. My boyfriend bought it way back when, though, and then sold it. Lately on eBay there's pretty much only been one seller selling it, and all the complete copies have been going for about $30. It's a good game, but I'm guessing the price is more tied to its rarity. I recently got a copy myself in a lot. :)

So yeah, it's quite rare, but I'm not so sure it should be in a top 10.

[Kid Ice]

Well, apparently WD sold enough to bring out the sequel (Raycrisis).

Anyone holding their breath for Fox Hunt 2? :)

Since when does a game have to sell well for Working Designs to publish a sequel or some other game that likely won't sell well? :P If all companies were logical in that way, we wouldn't have been cursed with Cheetahmen 2. :P

Speaking of both Raystorm and Raycrisis, wasn't Raystorm the first Working Designs release under the "Spaz" line, and Raycrisis was the last? That makes a total of what, 4 Spaz releases total? If anything, that shows that those obscure Japanese action games just didn't sell well enough in the mainstream American market. I'd guess that Raycrisis was more of one last hurrah for the fans than an indication that Raystorm actually sold well.

Maybe in my original example I should have used Castlevania: SOTN instead of Raystorm in my example. You win this one, I haven't seen a Raystorm in the wild in quite a while.

[Doonzmore]

I'd like to thank everyone who put there input here as well as a special thanks to Dangerboy for his expertise. I plan to wrap this up in a few days, ill look up some more info on a few of these games and get the final list completed. This list will most likely not be 100% accurate so no sense in complaining if you feel that something doesnt fit and there is no need for anyone to go by this list of rare playstation games i have compiled.