GBA 2

[hydr0x]

as the other topic was closed, i decided to open this one, please keep it civil this time

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm

http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8385

what are your feelings about this? i think if there will be a GBA 2 soon with the power of the GC that will mean some heavy competition for the PSP, and competition is always good...

[Muscelli]

that would be hella cool for gamecube graffix, as long as it is at 100 dollars

[goatdan]

Hot damn, they're actually going to make the DS into a PDA officially. About damn time.

Too bad it was a little too late for many people that wanted to see it as a PDA device from the beginning. If it had that functionality built-in originally, I would've had one by now, although I still wouldn't have any games for it. Instead, I have a real PDA and I won't be too interestecd in these features anymore.

Oh, and to add to these comments:

This could still be a killer app if Nintendo decides to upgrade all existing DS owners for free. If the PDA software costs money to insert and use, and if it is all contained on a cartridge, they aren't going to have much success. They need to get people that would never think to use a PDA to use it as a PDA to actually get a grip on that market. Otherwise, I really don't see this being very functional at all.

The DS _should have_ launched with this software already built in. Had it done that, it would have a much greater consumer appeal across the board.

[boatofcar]

Hot damn, they're actually going to make the DS into a PDA officially. About damn time.

Too bad it was a little too late for many people that wanted to see it as a PDA device from the beginning. <snip>

The DS _should have_ launched with this software already built in. Had it done that, it would have a much greater consumer appeal across the board.

I agree. If the DS would have been labeled as a N-Gage-like device that could do it all and have the ability to play GBA games, I'd have bought it in a second.

[Poofta!]

Hell yeah!

i bought the ds and while its a fun machine its not a good portable gaming device. i dont regret buying it, mario 64ds was awesome and playing gba games on it is infinitely better than on a gba sp.

but this will truly kickass, and stands a chance to compete with the psp.


so yeah, im game, i dont care that i bought the ds, good hardware is good hardware. ill buy the psp too. GAME ON!

[TheRedEye]

Oh god dammit. Okay, I'm going to put this in all caps and bold, very early in this thread, which should hopefully negate some very stupid posts:

SPONG IS NOT A REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCE

Everything in that Spong article regarding the new Game Boy is completely fabricated. Read it if you want, but do not believe a word of it. They've been pulling this "exclusive info" shit for a very long time now, and I'm sick of it.

[Muscelli]

yeah once in a while spong has a few stories turn out to be true, but for the most part... thats where all of the gaming rumors start

[bluenote]

Oh god dammit. Okay, I'm going to put this in all caps and bold, very early in this thread, which should hopefully negate some very stupid posts:

SPONG IS NOT A REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCE

Everything in that Spong article regarding the new Game Boy is completely fabricated. Read it if you want, but do not believe a word of it. They've been pulling this "exclusive info" shit for a very long time now, and I'm sick of it.

Dude, this is posted all over the internet. Check IGN, there's an official response from Nintendo.

[TheRedEye]

Oh god dammit. Okay, I'm going to put this in all caps and bold, very early in this thread, which should hopefully negate some very stupid posts:

SPONG IS NOT A REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCE

Everything in that Spong article regarding the new Game Boy is completely fabricated. Read it if you want, but do not believe a word of it. They've been pulling this "exclusive info" shit for a very long time now, and I'm sick of it.

Dude, this is posted all over the internet. Check IGN, there's an official response from Nintendo.

Spong's drivel about all of the features of the new Game Boy is not true.

Hey, look, a reputable news source:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7073

And they're saying exactly what I said from the beginning. Marketing analysts are not Nintendo, and if there's a new Game Boy this year, it's another redesigned GBA.

[Gregory DG]

If the new Gameboy plays GameCube discs, it'd be an instant hit. :-P

[calthaer]

I'm not so sure a portable device that does GCN games is all that and a bag o' chips. I personally love the GBA not mainly because it is portable, but because it is the only place where I can get a decent 2D game nowadays! I have not bought a DS and don't anticipate doing so until they come out with some good 2D games for the thing.

Give me my sprites! And some good games that aren't based on crappy movies.

[TheRedEye]

If the new Gameboy plays GameCube discs, it'd be an instant hit. :-P

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Humanoid]

Frankly, no matter what it turns out to be, I'll probably buy it. This is simply because I have all the other gameboys anyway, and I'll want a complete set.

[soniko_karuto]

Id it has an integrated play yan, i'm sold! 8-)

[whoisKeel]

Man, I hope the make the new gba's smaller. :hmm:

[njiska]

Man, I hope the make the new gba's smaller. :hmm:


Smaller? are you mad man? My SP is plenty small, in fact it's just the right size. What i hope they do is find a better way to place the should buttons so it isn't so awkward to use them.

[njiska]

If the new Gameboy plays GameCube discs, it'd be an instant hit. :-P

Everyone wants to take their console gaming on the road but no one realzzes that it isn't easy. Sure playing gamecube games would be cool, but the fact is that using an optical disc is hard on the battery. No to mention that console games just aren't designd for the handheld market. Handheld games are ment to be things you can play for a few minutes or a few hours. Most console games can't be played that way.

In fact handhelds that could play console games usually fail. Take a look at the Sega Nomad or the NEC Turbo Express. Both failures.

[hezeuschrist]

I got into a big thread about this over at futuremark's console gaming board, and please be aware this is speculation based on speculation.


Wow, some of you guys are so quick to the punch. You feel you've wasted your money on a DS but there have already been a half dozen must have titles annoucned, and you're feeling betrayed?

Nintendo made it no secret that the DS was strictly a niche gaming market, for the truly hardcore. It was never supposed to have amazing support, it was never supposed to sell as well as it has, and I garantee the early adoption success of the DS has not only exceeded their sales expectaitons greatly, but put a suprised smile on their face. They'll continue with their DS support plan, which by the way does not include Revolution connectivity. I garantee the GBE is the reason for that, and they annoucned this shortly after E3. The GBA/DS will not be able to link to the Revolution in any way, and at that annoucnement I first felt that it'd have built in screens in the controllers, or a built in GBA Player type device. Obviously the DS needs the touch screen so that's likely out of the picture, but now that the GBE is so close to the release (maybe even coinciding?) with the Revolution, that's become the clear reason.

But I digress. Back to the issue of support for the DS, I'd be much willing to be that Nintendo actually took a cue from Sony with this. They're testing the market for how much dual screens would be utilized, for how much the touch screen would be utilized. If you think about it, the GBA->GC Connectivity pretty much directly resulted in the DS. Sony marketed the PSX as an all in one super expensive set top device and was nearly annoucned that it was simply a test bed for the PS3. See what people would utilize, how much storage capacity to use, what kind of quality parts they expect to see the best average lifespan. They've remodled that thing quite a few times and they're relying on the few to let them know how it's going. I feel the DS was never designed for commercial success, but for market feedback from the masses. They just didn't expect the masses to be so big.

I feel the touchscreen will be the saving grace for the DS owners. That will continue to keep developers intrested in staying creative and original, while they can take their safe bets and big bucks to the home consoles (and PSP, maybe even GBE).

Either way, I'm now not just stoked for E3, I'm seriously intrigued. This puts Nintendo in a very difficult position. How do you garner support for a new handheld just a year after accidentally releasing a spiritual successor to the GBA? How do you support 4 devices at once? How soon does the GBA bite the dust? Do they really intend to turn the DS into a psuedo PSP + PDA software, while loosely supporting it with Mario <insert sport>? As the industry turns...

Good news for me. I'll get some great games out of it, and probably a cheaper DS too. I still have yet to buy it (not until mario kart or metroid), but it could ultimately be the end of Nintendo. The feeling of betrayal, no matter how misplaced, is a strong one and fairly difficult to get over. I say misplaced because as of now it's all pure speculation, and if this turns out to be true listing all the stats on the incredibly strong support for the DS isn't going to help a damn thing. It certainly isn't going to be another Virtual Boy, as the DS already has more games than the Virtual Boy did and has sold faaaaar better than the VB could have ever hoped to.

Be paitent, we've only got 10 weeks until Nintendo bears their hand at E3. It'll prove to be their most interesting and important one to date.


Game On!

[Bluteg]

I still say that Nintendo will not release NEW technology for less of an MSRP than the DS. It will not happen! TheRedEye is right, listen to him.