PDA

View Full Version : First time JP Buyer...Can't trust this kind of engrish!!!



Kamino
03-02-2005, 01:06 PM
So, I've been considering breaking that "No JP games" rule.
I have reasons for this rule.
1) Language barrier - both in game, and in BUYING the games.
2) Nervousness about the high rate of pirate junk over in Asia.
3) Cost. If I get into this crap, I'm going to end up buying Radiant Silvergun, etc.
But anyway. I digress.
I was eyeing up MD golden axe 3.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=0&item=8173475189&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
unfortunately, This is the only sheister that has it this side of 30 dollars.....
How the hell can anyone trust these kinds of auctions? With THAT kind of engrish? It just looks fishy...

specialmove
03-02-2005, 01:28 PM
Go for it. Look at his feedback, it's nearly immaculate. Plus it will open up a whole new world of gaming for you. If your in the market for SS or DC games, I couldn't recommend the seller chenpihun56 more. He's based in Taiwan and sells some really great stuff (and quite a few of the more rare titles) almost constantly, packs really well and always delivers quickly.

WanganRunner
03-02-2005, 01:43 PM
Feedback speaks for itself. The fact that the guy doesn't speak impeccable English shouldn't be an issue. If you've got a good picture, and good feedback, and especially recommendations from DPers, go for it.

The only reason I don't go for more JP-based auctions is the shipping. I mean, the prices are often fantastic ($65 for a white Sega Saturn, boxed), but then shipping is like 80 bucks! ouch!

Aussie2B
03-02-2005, 01:50 PM
So, I've been considering breaking that "No JP games" rule.
I have reasons for this rule.
1) Language barrier - both in game, and in BUYING the games.
2) Nervousness about the high rate of pirate junk over in Asia.
3) Cost. If I get into this crap, I'm going to end up buying Radiant Silvergun, etc.
But anyway. I digress.
I was eyeing up MD golden axe 3.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=0&item=8173475189&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
unfortunately, This is the only sheister that has it this side of 30 dollars.....
How the hell can anyone trust these kinds of auctions? With THAT kind of engrish? It just looks fishy...

There's nothing suspicious about Engrish. o_O Geez, don't you ever come in contact with people who don't know English very well? What if you had some item that was desirable in other regions, yet you didn't know the language very well? Would you appreciate it if people thought there was something shifty about you just because you couldn't write perfectly in their language?

The only thing I would be bothered about in that auction is the fact that the item comes from Thailand. I rarely buy from any person or business that's not located in Japan because all the other Asian countries have such a history of bootlegging. However, that game looks legit, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Anyway, nearly all the Japanese sellers I buy from type a bit Engrish-y, but it's no reason to be concerned. Usually they are far more polite and honest than American sellers, and they deliver products that are most often in BETTER condition than described, unlike slick talking American eBay sellers that try to push crap on you.

Heck, most of my Chinese computer science professors don't speak perfect English, but they're still really nice, knowledgable, and trustworthy guys. ;)

esquire
03-02-2005, 02:57 PM
So, I've been considering breaking that "No JP games" rule.
I have reasons for this rule.
1) Language barrier - both in game, and in BUYING the games.
2) Nervousness about the high rate of pirate junk over in Asia.
3) Cost. If I get into this crap, I'm going to end up buying Radiant Silvergun, etc.
But anyway. I digress.
I was eyeing up MD golden axe 3.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=0&item=8173475189&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
unfortunately, This is the only sheister that has it this side of 30 dollars.....
How the hell can anyone trust these kinds of auctions? With THAT kind of engrish? It just looks fishy...

Couple of things to keep in mind. First, this particular has been selling Golden Axe III for the Mega Drive for a while now. I've watched his auctions and considered buying one myself, but didn't for the next two reasons. Other than that, he is a good seller as far as I can tell.

Second, to play this game on a US Genesis you'll need a Magic Key/Mega Key/Nitro 2 adapter. A Game Genie will not work as there is a region lockout on this game. That is a problem as I rarely see these adapters on ebay, and when I do they go four $50+. You may be able to find one on the internet, but currently I don't know where. So unless you have a Japanese MD or don't mind playing the game until you find an adapter, I'd hold off.

Third, notice his payment instructions. This makes me a bit leary, unless you were to pay by CC. No paypal and I don't like the Cash/MO options. I'm not saying its fishy, its just that I prefer paypal and am leary when someone doesn't offer it.

As to collecting imports, I think its great. There are many games I would have missed out on if I stayed away from imports. The trick is to find a good seller and roll with it. I've found a few that are extremely good sellers and have bought many items from them. Language is not a barrier with respect to the games unless you are going to be playing RPGS, adventures or dating sims. If you are going into the MD import scene, be aware there are some great shmups that never made it over here, but they are very $$ - see Alien Soldier, Gley Lancer, BioShip Paladin, Eliminate Down,and Slap Fight. Those games go for anywhere between $100 to $250 a piece. However, there are some reasonably priced ones too like Fire Mustang, Twin Hawk/Dai Sen Pu, Dangerous Seed and Curse. Good luck and let us know how you do.

imanerd0011
03-02-2005, 04:12 PM
I bought something from a seller this last week, and he doesn't speak English very well to say the least. I have a very hard time reading his emails, but he can read mine just fine, so I guess he reads English MUCH better than he writes it.

Kamino
03-02-2005, 04:18 PM
Alrighty. I wasn't sure what to expect in this scene, really, but between deciphering the payment terms, and then with what the payment terms actually ARE, I still may avoid this sheister, based on the strange payment and the Thai locale.
I'm going to continue looking for a GA3...but I may end up just sticking to NTSC/u and PAL/UK/AUS.

Aussie2B
03-02-2005, 04:28 PM
Third, notice his payment instructions. This makes me a bit leary, unless you were to pay by CC. No paypal and I don't like the Cash/MO options. I'm not saying its fishy, its just that I prefer paypal and am leary when someone doesn't offer it.

I'm guessing the main reason why some don't offer it is because the fees are considerably higher when you accept foreign payments. Also, I think there may be some problems that foreigners run into when accepting PayPal. I know one of my favorite stores stopped accepting PayPal about a year ago (right before I got a PayPal account, argh), and I understand the decision (although I really wish they still took PayPal since my last IPMO got lost in the mail so my order was cancelled and I have to wait 4 months and pay a few bucks to get a refund [plus I'm also out the 4 bucks I spent to originally buy and send the IPMO]... but I digress).

jajaja
03-02-2005, 04:53 PM
WTF?! O_O

I bought this game from this seller about 2 weeks ago, still havnt recived it yet.
God damnit if i get scammed! I wouldnt bid.

EDIT: looks like he have several of copies *phew*
He sold one here for example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8158989050

drwily008
03-02-2005, 08:22 PM
Sorry, supposed to be a PM...oops!

NintendoMan
03-02-2005, 11:16 PM
Ah man, I have the exact same worries, which is the reason I don't have ONE import.

Jibbajaba
03-02-2005, 11:23 PM
Well just because someone is located in asia, that doesnt mean that they are scam artist or selling bootlegs, man. If they guy has good feedback then I'm sure he's fine.

That said, I don't buy imports on eBay. I'll buy em if I see em locally though. But if you need a magikey to play this then it doesnt see worth it anyway, unless of course you already have one.

Chris

esquire
03-02-2005, 11:25 PM
Ah man, I have the exact same worries, which is the reason I don't have ONE import.

As for importing from Japan, I have never been screwed over once; wheras in the US and Canada, I have been cheated several times.

Aussie2B
03-03-2005, 01:02 AM
Ah man, I have the exact same worries, which is the reason I don't have ONE import.

As for importing from Japan, I have never been screwed over once; wheras in the US and Canada, I have been cheated several times.

Same here. I pretty much have a 100% satisfaction rate with all my various importing transactions (games, soundtracks, comics, etc.). That's more than I can say about American sellers, and considering I import online just as much as I buy from online US sellers, if not more so, I think it's more than just coincidence or getting lucky.

jajaja
03-03-2005, 01:53 AM
This guy have over 1000 copies of Golden Axe 3 in stock, just e-mailed him

Parodius
03-03-2005, 02:04 AM
yamatoku on ebay and http://www.yamatoku.jp/game/ is very very good. Good prices. Shipping for single games can be expensive but he does combine auctions within the span of a month.

Vroomfunkel
03-03-2005, 04:26 AM
empire1974 is 100% to be trusted. He has been selling new copies of Golden Axe III for years now - I bought a few copies from him over two years ago, along with some Treasure Land Adventures. This was when his feedback was about 50 or so and he didn't accept Credit Cards .. so I sent cash. THAT was what I would consider a risk - but I didn't think it was much of one, as his feedback was good and he obviously had a ton of these to offload, so it wouldn't do him any favours to scam anyone.

Since then he has been CONTINUOUSLY selling GA3. It took a while for them to come through to me (as you might expect from Thailand) - but there was no problem at all - and the games were all brand new.

I guarantee you, it is the cheapest you will find this game unless you get extremely lucky. One thing you might want to note is that sticker on the bottom right of the box. It says "Asian Version". As far as I can tell the only difference between the Japanese version and the 'Asian' version is this sticker .. but if you are a purist who wants only the official Japanese release, this ain't it.

Finally, I would like to concur with Nintendoman / Aussie2B. I have done thousands of ebay transactions - and have been scammed a couple of times by UK users, and had uncounted numbers of UK & US buyers not bother to pay, or mess me around.

In contrast, I have never been scammed by an Asian / Japanese seller ... in the odd occasion when something has arrived in less than described condition I have been given a refund/discount with no questions asked. Every item I have sold to Asia/Japan has been paid for promptly and without problem.

And, without exception, in all these circumstances the other person has made great efforts to communicate with me as best they can in English, and there have ultimately been no misunderstandings ... which is more than I could say if I were try to communicate in their language!!!

Basically .. if you want to buy imported games, lose some prejudices and get on with it - or else pay through the nose like all the other people who refuse to buy from someone who doesn't speak Queen's English and is a *shock-horror-suspicion* foreigner .... worse still an Asian!!

Vroomfunkel

jajaja
03-03-2005, 04:38 AM
Just wanted to add that people from Japan (atleast the ones I've bought from) pack the games realy good! And the games are in super condition.
The japanse know how to take care of stuff, not like us who practicaly destroyed the box, label on cartridge and alot of sratches on discs.
My discs got no scratches tho, but when i see my friends discs they are full of sratches.

c2000
03-03-2005, 07:44 AM
Also bought a GA3 from him. Send cash. Got it fast. :D

Balusilustalu
03-05-2005, 09:43 AM
Krazy kamino, if you have a problem reading his english, then why don't you contact the guy and ask for details in Taiwanese? I'm sure your foreign language skills far outperform his 'engrish'? :roll:
As for the phenomenon of 'engrish', listening to an average American pulled off the street is a challenge of considerable proportions with all the slang casually thrown in. Talk about butchering a language! :/
You want to see engrish? Look at the average forum member. It shocks me on a daily basis to see the amount of spelling mistakes people make. And that includes the Americans, British, etc. Lack of punctuation, grammatical errors galore.. it makes for quite a hinderance when reading.


And as for dealing with Asian sellers, maybe you should try it sometime before you advertise such ignorance. It makes you look like the stereo typical narrow minded "dude" who doesn't know the world outside his borders.
You'll more than likely find that Americans (and to a lesser degree Europeans) can learn a thing or two from Asians in courtesy and decency when it comes to eBay. In general the goods I receive from Japanese sellers are in a much better condition than those from sellers in the US of A. Most of it in fact can be considered mint condition. So much so that I now prefer to buy from a Japanese seller than from anywhere else.

My apologies if I sound harsh.
Have a nice day. :)

Kamino
03-05-2005, 09:53 AM
Krazy kamino, if you have a problem reading his english, then why don't you contact the guy and ask for details in Taiwanese? I'm sure your foreign language skills far outperform his 'engrish'? :roll:
As for the phenomenon of 'engrish', listening to an average American pulled off the street is a challenge of considerable proportions with all the slang casually thrown in. Talk about butchering a language! :/
You want to see engrish? Look at the average forum member. It shocks me on a daily basis to see the amount of spelling mistakes people make. And that includes the Americans, British, etc. Lack of punctuation, grammatical errors galore.. it makes for quite a hinderance when reading.


And as for dealing with Asian sellers, maybe you should try it sometime before you advertise such ignorance. It makes you look like the stereo typical narrow minded "dude" who doesn't know the world outside his borders.
You'll more than likely find that Americans (and to a lesser degree Europeans) can learn a thing or two from Asians in courtesy and decency when it comes to eBay. In general the goods I receive from Japanese sellers are in a much better condition than those from sellers in the US of A. Most of it in fact can be considered mint condition. So much so that I now prefer to buy from a Japanese seller than from anywhere else.

My apologies if I sound harsh.
Have a nice day. :)
s'ok. I most likely needed a verbal beating.

Iron Draggon
03-05-2005, 10:28 AM
Well no need for me to repeat what everyone else has said, except to say that I've grown to prefer dealing with Asian sellers too. They're awesome!

But BEWARE... Importing can become extremely ADDICTIVE... Heed my WARNING... I've been on my import binge for well over half a year now... And it all started with just ONE game... I was only gonna buy ONE import... Now I can't STOP... It's like crack... MUST... HAVE... MORE... IMPORTS...

Seriously though, if you get hooked, it'll only be because you love it. The only real pain comes when you get into buying up the triple digit games!

Balusilustalu
03-05-2005, 11:50 AM
But BEWARE... Importing can become extremely ADDICTIVE...

I second that! Not good for your bank balance... @_@