CGE 2k5 Party

[punkoffgirl]

Hey everyone!

I'm looking to get some feedback for this year's Saturday night party. We're starting early this year, in hopes we can top the good time everyone had last year :)

I'm looking for comments or criticism about last year's party, as well. I'm quite aware that there were people who were upset that they missed the party due to being unaware of its location; we're going to work on that, however, we still won't know the actual room number of the suite until after check-in time on Saturday.

I ALSO have a question I'd like you to answer for me: If we opened a PayPal account to accept donations toward the cost of the suite, or the alcohol, etc, would you all be willing to chip in a couple bucks? Or would you rather have the party BYOB?

[Drexel923]

I had a great time last year so no real complaints for me. Since it's mostly a DP only party, when someone comes to the booth to get their DP name tag we can tell them the details. As far as donations, if I have any money left after actually paying for the trip, then I'll gladly give some to you ;)

Also, I'll give you a hand again as I did last year.

[punkoffgirl]

Also, I'll give you a hand again as I did last year.

OH! You just reminded me (and I can't edit), if anyone here is interested in volunteering to help, or can volunteer some snacks or anthing along those lines, please let me know!

[gavv]

Also, I'll give you a hand again as I did last year.

OH! You just reminded me (and I can't edit), if anyone here is interested in volunteering to help, or can volunteer some snacks or anthing along those lines, please let me know!

i never found the party ^^;;;;

gavv

[Chunky]

i not that keen on smoking but what are the chances we can find a stairwell with no bothers again? maybe multiple bathrooms if possible. IT was a few nightmarish mins that i couldn't get a drink cuz someone you know might be hugging a toliet.

[Kamino]

10 bucks says nobody invites me to the party.
:P

[ubersaurus]

Also, I'll give you a hand again as I did last year.

OH! You just reminded me (and I can't edit), if anyone here is interested in volunteering to help, or can volunteer some snacks or anthing along those lines, please let me know!

i never found the party ^^;;;;

gavv

It took me about 12 minutes to stagger from the party hotel back to the one I was staying in.

It was well hidden :P

[MarioAllStar2600]

I am definatly game for donating some cash. If you need any help I will be there also, just PM me, me and my dad should have a rental car also, to go pick up supplies if needed. Critiscm- Not much.... It was a great party.

[digitalpress]

Last year's "after party" was a personal highlight for the organizers in case you hadn't noticed the pictures of me holding five beers at once, or the ones where Sean is hugging me (that's just NOT Sean). We had a blast and you can count on us to support whatever you need.

New shotglasses are a must. Those things are great mementos.

Better promotion of the time and place before the party is a must, too. I know a few people didn't know where it was or even that there WAS a party.

I think donations are a good idea - or maybe just have a simple cover charge. You do want to keep the crowd to a manageable size as well (last year was really close to TOO big).

Just let me know what you need!

[Jibbajaba]

10 bucks says nobody invites me to the party.
:P

Shoot, I'm not going to the party if you aren't there.

Chris

[punkoffgirl]

New shotglasses are a must. Those things are great mementos.

Those are already in the works :)


Better promotion of the time and place before the party is a must, too. I know a few people didn't know where it was or even that there WAS a party.

This is something I've been concerned about, as well. As it stands right now, we STILL won't know the actual room number until the day of the party (ie, Saturday morning) after check-in time. I'm hoping there may be some way we can get this nailed down earlier, but no promises.



I think donations are a good idea - or maybe just have a simple cover charge.

We've tossed around the idea of a cover charge, but it still makes us kind of uncomfortable. As you pointed out, however, it COULD also serve as double duty to limit the number of people in attendance. As much as we would LOVE to have everyone at the party, fire codes and hotel management are prohibitive. But you've made me curious about this pavillion?

[digitalpress]

The pavilliion is a really large outdoors "room" (for lack of a better word).

OOH almost forgot. I have a pciture. This is from the inside.

http://digitalpress.5u.com/cge_bay/hyatt_09.jpg

[punkoffgirl]

Ah.. I was thinking possibly Pavillion = party, but I'm not sure that would work. It looks rather large. Although, if there was live music..

[digitalpress]

Ah.. I was thinking possibly Pavillion = party, but I'm not sure that would work. It looks rather large. Although, if there was live music..

I'm with ya, sister. Let's discuss!

[Kamino]

Just one comment about cover charges.
Would a cover charge be to cover the person's share of the booze?
Because there's no way in hell any of you are going to get any firewater down my throat......i don't know if i'm the only one with that sentiment.....

[ubersaurus]

Last year's "after party" was a personal highlight for the organizers in case you hadn't noticed the pictures of me holding five beers at once, or the ones where Sean is hugging me (that's just NOT Sean). We had a blast and you can count on us to support whatever you need.

New shotglasses are a must. Those things are great mementos.

Better promotion of the time and place before the party is a must, too. I know a few people didn't know where it was or even that there WAS a party.

I think donations are a good idea - or maybe just have a simple cover charge. You do want to keep the crowd to a manageable size as well (last year was really close to TOO big).

Just let me know what you need!

I just wish I hadn't forgotten my shot glass!

Yes, that party was full of great, hazy memories, most notably Sean pointing out to me that I was drunk. Because I didn't know?

[punkoffgirl]

Just one comment about cover charges.
Would a cover charge be to cover the person's share of the booze?
Because there's no way in hell any of you are going to get any firewater down my throat......i don't know if i'm the only one with that sentiment.....

No, a cover charge would be to cover the cost of a room for the party.

[digitalpress]

I just wish I hadn't forgotten my shot glass!

I've got one here for ya, Uber. Why don't you e-mail me your shipping address and I'll send it out. I was going to bring it with me to CGE this year but I just know I'm going to forget.


Yes, that party was full of great, hazy memories, most notably Sean pointing out to me that I was drunk. Because I didn't know?

You were pretty much out of it by the time we got there. What time did that party START, anyway!?

[Kamino]

Just one comment about cover charges.
Would a cover charge be to cover the person's share of the booze?
Because there's no way in hell any of you are going to get any firewater down my throat......i don't know if i'm the only one with that sentiment.....

No, a cover charge would be to cover the cost of a room for the party.
Oh, So you guys get an extra hotel room or area for the party?
For some reason, I was under the assumption that it was in someone's hotel room.
That's fine......Thanks for clearing that up.
In that case, i'm more than willing to fork out some dough for a cover charge.
Jibbajaba: I'll do my damndest to find out where it is....but if nobody tells me, you gotta find out and let me know!!!

[digitalpress]

@Kamino: there is no "I will pay or I won't pay". If they institute a cover charge, you either pay or you find another party to go to! Last year was really big and many people didn't even know about it - I can't even imagine the magnitude of this years' party. It's going to *require* a cover charge, IMHO.

Jaime, if there's any problem getting info about the area from the hotel please let me know. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to secure a location in advance.

[Kamino]

@Kamino: there is no "I will pay or I won't pay". If they institute a cover charge, you either pay or you find another party to go to! Last year was really big and many people didn't even know about it - I can't even imagine the magnitude of this years' party. It's going to *require* a cover charge, IMHO.

Jaime, if there's any problem getting info about the area from the hotel please let me know. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to secure a location in advance.
I know what you're saying........i just wanted to know what the cover charge was covering, that's all :P i've no qualms with paying...and it *seemed* as if the cover charge was being *Discussed* in this thread....
sorry if I trampled your toes, good sir.

[digitalpress]

Oh no, not trampled at all. I just wanted to make sure that anyone else who reads this understands that if there's a cover charge, you pay it. Honestly, this would be a very low charge anyway so it's hardly worth mentioning.

We also have some sponsorship, which covered quite a bit of the costs last year - but you just never know from year to year.

[Sniderman]

/begins his arduous liver-training exercises in earnest

I'll be there and ready for action.

/salutes

[ubersaurus]

I just wish I hadn't forgotten my shot glass!

I've got one here for ya, Uber. Why don't you e-mail me your shipping address and I'll send it out. I was going to bring it with me to CGE this year but I just know I'm going to forget.


Yes, that party was full of great, hazy memories, most notably Sean pointing out to me that I was drunk. Because I didn't know?

You were pretty much out of it by the time we got there. What time did that party START, anyway!?

That's a good question. If I remember I pretty much followed Mayhem and QOF there after the auction, and it was already going on at that time.

I'd pay a cover charge though-something that damn fun deserves it.

[PackratVG]

I had a great time at the party last year. The beef jerky was a good call, and I loved the shot glasses. It might be nice to have some entertainment at the party (a few consoles set up, live music, whatever). I would have no problem paying a cover charge. You coule even have a few companies sponsor the party (Packrat Video Games comes to mind for some reason ;) ).

Best,
Jarett

[punkoffgirl]

I had a great time at the party last year. The beef jerky was a good call, and I loved the shot glasses. It might be nice to have some entertainment at the party (a few consoles set up, live music, whatever). I would have no problem paying a cover charge. You coule even have a few companies sponsor the party (Packrat Video Games comes to mind for some reason ;) ).

Best,
Jarett

We do have one sponsor already, so it's not a foreign concept :) If you're sincerely interested, let's talk!

[PackratVG]

Sounds good! I'll send you a PM.

[Kamino]

I had a great time at the party last year. The beef jerky was a good call, and I loved the shot glasses. It might be nice to have some entertainment at the party (a few consoles set up, live music, whatever). I would have no problem paying a cover charge. You coule even have a few companies sponsor the party (Packrat Video Games comes to mind for some reason ;) ).

Best,
Jarett
Consoles would be a great idea...
Actuallly it's a shock to me that this was not already happening...
what the blue hell IS this party about? Is this the CGE version of the wisconsin "sit in a field around a bonfire and drink" party?
I'm just curious. I've NEVER gone to these sorts of parties, but i figure i may as well since i'll be out there anyway...

[DogP]

I personally liked the party in Vegas the year before better, we had a bunch of video games, plus drinks for the drinkers. I'm not much of a drinker, so last year wasn't as fun since by the time I got there everyone was drunk and the place smelled like a bar :P .

DogP

[MarioAllStar2600]

I had a great time at the party last year. The beef jerky was a good call, and I loved the shot glasses. It might be nice to have some entertainment at the party (a few consoles set up, live music, whatever). I would have no problem paying a cover charge. You coule even have a few companies sponsor the party (Packrat Video Games comes to mind for some reason ;) ).

Best,
Jarett
Consoles would be a great idea...
Actuallly it's a shock to me that this was not already happening...
what the blue hell IS this party about? Is this the CGE version of the wisconsin "sit in a field around a bonfire and drink" party?
I'm just curious. I've NEVER gone to these sorts of parties, but i figure i may as well since i'll be out there anyway...
Yes. Its not a tournament or a raffle. Its everyone in one room just chatting and drinking, and eating pizza. Its a great time if your social, but if you would rather sit in your room and play games I recommend doing that. I have fun and I don't drink. I just talked with Danny, papastu, Dave and took pics of Uber, and I was perfectly sober (obviously). Its a social get together.

[Darth Vader]

Just let me know what you need, Jaime. You know I'll be there to help out in whatever way I can.

Danny

[punkoffgirl]

Just let me know what you need, Jaime. You know I'll be there to help out in whatever way I can.

Danny

Good, good! I have something in mind for you to do :)

[punkoffgirl]

Okay! I wanted to update this thread as well. We're still looking for some help!

-Anyone willing or interested in providing some kind of snacks for the party. Last year, Danny took care of this for us (thanks again!), but is unable to do so this year. We're talking chips, dip, pretzels, etc.

-We're also looking into providing pizza for the party. We're not planning on buying dinner for everyone attending, just giving them something to hold down all the alcohol with *lol* However, due to a higher cost for the room this year, we may not be able to cover this. If that happens, we'll likely be taking up a collection from party attendees to chip in toward pizza, so bring a couple bucks with you if you want to eat!

-As mentioned above, the suite for the party is a bit more expensive this year, and we may be looking at a deficit in our party budget. So, if anyone else would be interested in sponsoring the party, please let us know! We may also take up some kind of PayPal donation before CGE, however, donations are NOT mandatory for attendance. We'd like to keep the party "free" for everyone!

And that's it for updates for now! Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments!

[98PaceCar]

Not sure if this would be the best place or not, but a friend of mine and I have been kicking around the idea of holding a tournament on a really fun, quick, head to head game. We'll handle everything that needs to be done to make it happen. We had discussed making it a part of the party, but not sure if that's appropriate or not. Let me know if you want to discuss this further.

Thx!
Darren

[Kamino]

Not sure if this would be the best place or not, but a friend of mine and I have been kicking around the idea of holding a tournament on a really fun, quick, head to head game. We'll handle everything that needs to be done to make it happen. We had discussed making it a part of the party, but not sure if that's appropriate or not. Let me know if you want to discuss this further.

Thx!
Darren
Count me in on that. I'd been considering ditching the party to go check out some strip clubs, but a tourney is just the ticket...

[Kroogah]

If that happens, we'll likely be taking up a collection from party attendees to chip in toward pizza, so bring a couple bucks with you if you want to eat!

This is what happened last year, and it worked out great. So I wouldn't sweat it if pizza isn't covered in the party budget.

[RetroYoungen]

I just might have to try to get in on the party this year, I haven't gone to the after-party before, and this year I'll be of drinkin' age. ;) :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:

[Lady Jaye]

Count me in to lend you a hand, Jaime. Whatever, however I can help. :D

(yes, that does mean that I'm getting my butt over to the Bay Area for CGE!)

[S_W_Prof]

i new to cge this year and would love to go to the party so if there is any way i can help out just PM me 8-)

[MarioAllStar2600]

Jaime Ill cover snacks. As in chips, dip, and the like sortment. If you don't have someone just tell me. And try to remind me around CGE time just incase.

[dave2236]

you can count on my help. I'll be there for set-up and clean up the next morning.

I don't think a cover charge is too far fetched. even $5 to cover pizza, snacks and a cool shot glass is a deal.

I'll throw in $20, because the party was awesome last year.
I did go to bed before security came bacause I had too much and passed out in my room.

but you have to take me with you when we go shopping for alcohol.

ALSO anybody want to play some card games with me? I really want to play a few games of pep band asshole.

[Qixmaster]

you can count on my help. I'll be there for set-up and clean up the next morning.

I don't think a cover charge is too far fetched. even $5 to cover pizza, snacks and a cool shot glass is a deal.

I'll throw in $20, because the party was awesome last year.
I did go to bed before security came bacause I had too much and passed out in my room.

but you have to take me with you when we go shopping for alcohol.

ALSO anybody want to play some card games with me? I really want to play a few games of pep band asshole.

I'd be up for some card games. Also, there better be some Corona by the time i get there this year. Last year i was stuck with mike hard lemonade :/

[Mayhem]

I did go to bed before security came bacause I had too much and passed out in my room.

I can't remember if I left before security came LOL

Damned Centipede piss... all I recall is that, pizza, a bath full of booze and my inane ability to get home in one piece no matter how pissed I am...

[slapdash]

ALSO anybody want to play some card games with me? I really want to play a few games of pep band asshole.

Are you talking regular card games, or drinking card games? Because I ain't never heard of that one...

And if drinking games, remind me to bring along Cocoa Crunchies for some drinking game fun.

[Darth Vader]

ALSO anybody want to play some card games with me? I really want to play a few games of pep band asshole.

Are you talking regular card games, or drinking card games? Because I ain't never heard of that one...

And if drinking games, remind me to bring along Cocoa Crunchies for some drinking game fun.

The party was a blast last year and some people were really hurting the next day. The look on Mayhem's face the next morning was priceless. Maybe Dave will learn not to try and keep up with you next time, Mat. :D

Danny

[Sniderman]

Events that have happened at CGE parties I've been to:

- A rousing game of Joyboard Combat. Two players, playing Atari Combat, but having to steer with the rare - and awkward - foot-controlled Joyboard. Wow, was that fun!

- A party I heard of had an NES hooked up and people were playing shooting games with the Zapper. However, you had to be airborne in some John Woo-like shooting-while-flying-through-the-air position for your shots to count. Had to have been murder on the bed everyone was landing on.

- A preview of Game ON! The Retrogamer's Trivia Game. Questions were tosed out while 15 people scratched their heads and shouted answers. Great fun.

- Seeing an Atari Video Music fired up and pulsing to the beat of 80's music.

- Previews of games to be released at the show the next day can often be found.

Always a great time at these things. And just sitting around meeting people is also not to be underestimated. ;)

[RetroYoungen]

- A preview of Game ON! The Retrogamer's Trivia Game. Questions were tosed out while 15 people scratched their heads and shouted answers. Great fun.


That was so much fun, they should make another appearace. I can bring my set (I was thinking about it anyway), maybe the rummy game you made too? I haven't found anyone who would play it with me, and I've really wanted to give it a good run through...

And I'd be up for a cover charge (hopefully I'll have SOME money left this year) or whatever, donation for pizza or more drinks, whatever.

Dammit, now I'm all worked up for CGE to come 'round again...

[Mayhem]

- A party I heard of had an NES hooked up and people were playing shooting games with the Zapper. However, you had to be airborne in some John Woo-like shooting-while-flying-through-the-air position for your shots to count. Had to have been murder on the bed everyone was landing on.

I think that was 2003. I remember John Woo style Duck Hunt antics in the other room to where the booze was LOL

[MarioAllStar2600]

- A party I heard of had an NES hooked up and people were playing shooting games with the Zapper. However, you had to be airborne in some John Woo-like shooting-while-flying-through-the-air position for your shots to count. Had to have been murder on the bed everyone was landing on.

I think that was 2003. I remember John Woo style Duck Hunt antics in the other room to where the booze was LOL

hahaha. toughest game EVER. I kept trying over and over, and only got 1 real hit while I was airborne. If you plan on this again I would bring 2 NES's cause I can see one falling off the dresser to it's death.

[RetroYoungen]

- A party I heard of had an NES hooked up and people were playing shooting games with the Zapper. However, you had to be airborne in some John Woo-like shooting-while-flying-through-the-air position for your shots to count. Had to have been murder on the bed everyone was landing on.

I think that was 2003. I remember John Woo style Duck Hunt antics in the other room to where the booze was LOL

hahaha. toughest game EVER. I kept trying over and over, and only got 1 real hit while I was airborne. If you plan on this again I would bring 2 NES's cause I can see one falling off the dresser to it's death.

Unless somebody (*cough*Messiah*cough*) comes up with wireless Zappers or something... ;) LOL

[dave2236]

I was refering to drinking card games. I'd love to get 6 or 8 people playing asshole, circle of death, speedbump, or thumbmaster.

Also Danny and I will be out there for 5 days. So I'll drink and play cards everynight.

As far as playing games during the party, we can use my systems that I left out there last year. I know I have a box full of systems and controllers out there. Maybe some 4 player games would be good like smash bros., wario ware, or burnout 3. ( I might be able to steal a NWC cart if I can get in dannys safety deposit box....of course I get to keep it after) :)

Jamie? how big is the suite this year? Last year the room was pretty packed. But it was fun.

I will go around and ask for pizza cash again this year if everyone is hungry. After everyone had a few drinks in them they were willing to shell out cash


Yeah, and I will not be doing shots with Mayhem this year...well not as many as last year.

[punkoffgirl]

I'll have more information about the party coming out very shortly, Dave :) If people REALLY want to play games at the party, I suppose we could set something up, but it's not something we were planning on. You can play games just about every other night of the year, we're hoping for this to be more of a "socializing" time :) Plus, I'm not sure there'll be room enough to spare, considering last year's crowd, and what we're expecting this year. Maybe someone with a room close by the suite would like to host some gaming instead?

[slapdash]

I was refering to drinking card games. I'd love to get 6 or 8 people playing asshole, circle of death, speedbump, or thumbmaster.

Haven't played Asshole in years (though we discovered that The Great Dalmuti, a card game a non-drinking game-loving friend brought out to play, is in fact Asshole, so we put the alcohol back in the game as he watched in horror/amusement), and haven't tried the others.

If I remember, I'll bring the Cocoa Crunchies board, though we may need little tokens as pieces (I don't have enough).

[Queen Of The Felines]

The party was a blast last year and some people were really hurting the next day. The look on Mayhem's face the next morning was priceless. Maybe Dave will learn not to try and keep up with you next time, Mat. :D

Yeah, it was REALLY fun listening to him puke in the sink during the night too. :/ LOL

Kristine

[Darth Vader]

The party was a blast last year and some people were really hurting the next day. The look on Mayhem's face the next morning was priceless. Maybe Dave will learn not to try and keep up with you next time, Mat. :D

Yeah, it was REALLY fun listening to him puke in the sink during the night too. :/ LOL

Kristine

I was wondering when you would see that, Kristine. :D

Danny

[Mayhem]

She saw nothing! :P

And it only really qualifies as "night" if you consider 6am in the morning to see be "night" LOL

This year, I'll prepare better and wait until after the pizza arrives to have 10 shots in a row.

(here's a lesson for you kids... don't try that on an empty stomach. I did, and look what happened to me, and I'm a fairly hard arse drinking wise!)

[ApolloBoy]

Is this party all ages by any chance? If so, I'll think about going. :)

[Mayhem]

Theoretically yes, but we'll get in a huge amount of trouble if you're under age and try drinking any alcohol, so DON'T THINK ABOUT TRYING IT ;)

[drwily008]

I'm pretty excited about the party, it will be a good chance to meet all of the DP people in a cool atmoshere. Definitely willing to chip in on a cover charge (and possily bring a couple cases of beer to boot).

So looking foward to going and I also hope all my fellow collector friends from back home decide to come!

[Queen Of The Felines]

Hey PapaStu, can you hook me up with some Tequila Rose again? :D

Kristine

[I Am Humanoid]

Maybe someone with a room close by the suite would like to host some gaming instead?

Maybe there should be one "main party" and a bunch of "open door parties" (like a college dorm) if a lot of people wind up getting their rooms on the same floor as the "main party". I could see it now:

Gun Game Party
DDR Party
NES Party
SNES Party
Sega Party
Fighter Party
(insert party here)

and...

...The Main Room Party!!! :rocker: :band: :rocker:

aka The Drunk & Butt Naked Party :cheers: :bareass:

aka The Pimps & Ho's Party :pimp:

[Lady Jaye]

Yeah, nothing like a drunk DDR party!!! ;)

Stupid question regarding booze in California: where you go buy it? Is it sold only in state-run liquor store, or is it more generally accessible (ie. sold in supermarkets and convenience stores as well)? This question is about beer as well as for any hard liquor (here in Quebec, domestic beer and cheap wine is sold in supermarkets and convenience stores, while good-quality wine, import beer and all hard liquor are sold in province-run alcohol stores).

[Chunky]

Yeah, nothing like a drunk DDR party!!! ;)

Stupid question regarding booze in California: where you go buy it? Is it sold only in state-run liquor store, or is it more generally accessible (ie. sold in supermarkets and convenience stores as well)? This question is about beer as well as for any hard liquor (here in Quebec, domestic beer and cheap wine is sold in supermarkets and convenience stores, while good-quality wine, import beer and all hard liquor are sold in province-run alcohol stores).

last year we got into a cab and asked where 'he' would go to buy, where is the cheapest. He took us in a semi sketchy looking area, but all was good and cheap. But since no people have a concept of drinking besides their 3 beers, we took most of it home.

[punkoffgirl]

Yeah, nothing like a drunk DDR party!!! ;)

Stupid question regarding booze in California: where you go buy it? Is it sold only in state-run liquor store, or is it more generally accessible (ie. sold in supermarkets and convenience stores as well)? This question is about beer as well as for any hard liquor (here in Quebec, domestic beer and cheap wine is sold in supermarkets and convenience stores, while good-quality wine, import beer and all hard liquor are sold in province-run alcohol stores).

last year we got into a cab and asked where 'he' would go to buy, where is the cheapest. He took us in a semi sketchy looking area, but all was good and cheap. But since no people have a concept of drinking besides their 3 beers, we took most of it home.

Oh, you're talking about yourself, and not for the party. I was going to say, out of ALL the beer that was bought last year, the only remainder was a hodge-podge 12 pack the next morning!

Sarah: Hard alcohol in the states must be sold by a licensed store, but not necessarily by a government-run licensed store. I know Maine USED to have agency liquor stores (gov't), but they are slowly getting rid of all of them due to state budgeting. You can buy beer/wine/etc at gas stations, convenience stores, grocery stores, but the only places in MY area with licences to sell hard liquor are the grocery stores (and not even all of those; Walmart's, for instance, doesn't carry hard liquor).

[chadtower]

NH still has state run liquor stores.

[MarioAllStar2600]

NH still has state run liquor stores.

In PA you can't even buy beer from gas stations. My friend goes to college up there, and he said you need to go to some special store to buy any kind of beer/wine/liquor.

[dave2236]

Don't worry Chunky, I'll drink with you.

[PapaStu]

Hey PapaStu, can you hook me up with some Tequila Rose again? :D

Kristine

We'll see