DK and Frogger Cab Questions

[Hovoc]

Found a couple of cabs for sale locally. One is a frogger that needs a monitor and artwork. What would this be worth, both in current condition and in restored.

ANd there is a DK machine that has been converted to twin cobra, inclu. side art, marquee and control panel, everything else is the same even the monitor bezel, would this be worth converting back to a DK cab?

[chadtower]

You're not going to make money on either cab, if that is the goal.

You didn't mention whether or not the Frogger has the board. If it has a working board, that board is worth more than the cab by far. For a Frogger with no artwork or monitor, I would pay no more than $35.

I say the DK would be worth converting back, but I'm heavily into restoring the classics. It is not monetarily worth it, you would be lucky to break even, spending most of your money on the replacement artwork. If you want to do a good thing and bring back a 'dead' classic, it's worth it.

[Hovoc]

You're not going to make money on either cab, if that is the goal.

You didn't mention whether or not the Frogger has the board. If it has a working board, that board is worth more than the cab by far. For a Frogger with no artwork or monitor, I would pay no more than $35.

I say the DK would be worth converting back, but I'm heavily into restoring the classics. It is not monetarily worth it, you would be lucky to break even, spending most of your money on the replacement artwork. If you want to do a good thing and bring back a 'dead' classic, it's worth it.


nah not trying to make money offthem, was just curious if it was worth restoring or if i should just look around for a complete cab.


the frogger is 100% complete but needs a monitor and side art.

[chadtower]

If it doesn't have a monitor or sideart, it's not 100% complete. That's missing half the good stuff.

If you just want to restore them because you can, hell yeah do it. I would.

[Hovoc]

If it doesn't have a monitor or sideart, it's not 100% complete. That's missing half the good stuff.

If you just want to restore them because you can, hell yeah do it. I would.


well in regards to the electronics, its all there, cept the monitor has a wiggle or something

[chadtower]

Ah, you said "needs a monitor". That generally means "the monitor is absent". Arcade monitors are very simple creatures once one has studied how they work, most of the time fixable within an hour or two. More than likely it needs a cap kit, about an hour's work for someone with basic soldering skills.

[Hovoc]

Ah, you said "needs a monitor". That generally means "the monitor is absent". Arcade monitors are very simple creatures once one has studied how they work, most of the time fixable within an hour or two. More than likely it needs a cap kit, about an hour's work for someone with basic soldering skills.

heh sorry, meant needs a monitor as in, monitor rolls, jiggles, whatever :)

[Arcade Antics]

Found a couple of cabs for sale locally. One is a frogger that needs a monitor and artwork. What would this be worth, both in current condition and in restored.

ANd there is a DK machine that has been converted to twin cobra, inclu. side art, marquee and control panel, everything else is the same even the monitor bezel, would this be worth converting back to a DK cab?

Both would be worth converting. The question is how much time, money and effort do you want to spend?

For the DK - are you saying that the art, bezel, marquee are the original DK or have they been replaced with Twin Cobra? If they're DK, definitely go for it. :)

Monitor cap kits aren't difficult, however, the Nintendo monitors are probably the toughest overall - everything is buried, you'll spend almost as much time getting the board out of it as you will actually replacing all the caps. 8-)

[FABombjoy]

Monitor cap kits aren't difficult, however, the Nintendo monitors are probably the toughest overall - everything is buried, you'll spend almost as much time getting the board out of it as you will actually replacing all the caps. 8-)

I've heard this repeatedly, but I thought my 20-EZV was a piece of cake. I had mine out, recapped, and reinstalled in an afternoon. Am I crazy or something?

[Hovoc]

Found a couple of cabs for sale locally. One is a frogger that needs a monitor and artwork. What would this be worth, both in current condition and in restored.

ANd there is a DK machine that has been converted to twin cobra, inclu. side art, marquee and control panel, everything else is the same even the monitor bezel, would this be worth converting back to a DK cab?

Both would be worth converting. The question is how much time, money and effort do you want to spend?

For the DK - are you saying that the art, bezel, marquee are the original DK or have they been replaced with Twin Cobra? If they're DK, definitely go for it. :)

Monitor cap kits aren't difficult, however, the Nintendo monitors are probably the toughest overall - everything is buried, you'll spend almost as much time getting the board out of it as you will actually replacing all the caps. 8-)


heh another example of me not wording stuff correctly.

the sideart, marquee, and panel, are all twin cobra, the cab is still baby blue, and the bezel is still DK

[chadtower]

So it is likely that the DK sideart is still there, under the Twin Cobra artwork. A little care with a heat gun and you've got it back.

[Hovoc]

So it is likely that the DK sideart is still there, under the Twin Cobra artwork. A little care with a heat gun and you've got it back.


totally unrelated to your post, but a previous post... time and effort isnt a concern, i enjoy projects such as this, cost doesnt bother me as long as i dont get over the cost of what itd be to buy a cab that needs little to no restoration

[Arcade Antics]

Monitor cap kits aren't difficult, however, the Nintendo monitors are probably the toughest overall - everything is buried, you'll spend almost as much time getting the board out of it as you will actually replacing all the caps. 8-)

I've heard this repeatedly, but I thought my 20-EZV was a piece of cake. I had mine out, recapped, and reinstalled in an afternoon. Am I crazy or something?

Nope not crazy, just better at it than me. :)

I could do it in an (entire) afternoon, but disassembling the whole thing was a pain in the neck. I found it much tougher than the other monitors overall. The caps were easy to do, but all the discombobulating involved in getting at the thing... whew! :)

[chadtower]

The sideart alone will likely run close to $300...

[SuperGunGuru]

Monitor cap kits aren't difficult, however, the Nintendo monitors are probably the toughest overall - everything is buried, you'll spend almost as much time getting the board out of it as you will actually replacing all the caps. 8-)
I have to jump into this thread to say that truer words have never been spoken. I just did a cap kit on my Donkey Kong cabaret and it was a nightmare to get that thing apart. The power supply is no better @_@

[chadtower]

I stand corrected... those sidearts are much smaller than the ones I usually price, things like Ms Pac and the Atari cabs.

[Stingray]

I don't recall Frogger even having any side art at all. The only one's I remember seeing were the ones with woodgrain sides like the one on KLOV.

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/F/cFrogger.jpg

-S

[chadtower]

KLOV is a bad source for original cabs... a LOT of the cabs pictured there are conversions.

[Hovoc]

you where can i find a pic of an original frogger? wanna make sure the coin machine and everythign is the correct one

[Arcade Antics]

I don't recall Frogger even having any side art at all. The only one's I remember seeing were the ones with woodgrain sides like the one on KLOV.

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/F/cFrogger.jpg

-S

That's the original cabinet, but the sideart was stripped. :) The original sideart matches the sideart in the link above. Sega used the same cab for a lot of their early games, Carnival, Zaxxon, Frogger, Head On, etc., but the later cabs (Zaxxon and Frogger to name two) had woodgrain sides instead of white.

[chadtower]

And don't try the front page of KLOV today, it's hacked.

[chadtower]

I don't recall Frogger even having any side art at all. The only one's I remember seeing were the ones with woodgrain sides like the one on KLOV.

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/F/cFrogger.jpg

-S

Oh, dude, that cab is obviously in the very least altered. It has a credit button on the coin door.

[ClubNinja]

And don't try the front page of KLOV today, it's hacked.

Wow. That guy is so L33T.

[Hovoc]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/hovocx/frogger1.jpg


is this one of the original froggers?

[Arcade Antics]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/hovocx/frogger1.jpg


is this one of the original froggers?

Yup.

[Stingray]

All of the Froggers I remember seeing (and I know two people who currently own one) look like the one pictured in this thread. Woodgrain sides with no sideart.

-S

[chadtower]

Could the sideart be for conversions only?

[Arcade Antics]

Could the sideart be for conversions only?

No.

*sigh*

Here's a pic of the original cab with the original sideart in place. All the early Sega games used the same sort of cut out sideart, including Carnival, Frogger, Head On, etc.

http://www.geocities.com/arcadeantics/frog.jpg.txt

*edited to fix pic link

[chadtower]

*sigh*

piccy no workie.

[Arcade Antics]

*sigh*

piccy no workie.

LOL D'oh! It was workin' earlier... Lemme fix it.

[chadtower]

Gotta say, that's a rather uninspired cab for that era. Especially for such a great game.

[SuperGunGuru]

My Frogger didn't have sideart when I purchased it (still doesn't in fact :/ ). I've only seen one Frogger in person that has side art and it's a machine that belongs to a friend. He just got a repro cp overlay, bezel, and sideart for his. It looks nice too. I was talking to him about why so many Froggers don't have side art. I can't even see anything on mine that would indicated it ever had sideart. I think he theorized that only the early run of Froggers had sideart.

[Hovoc]

My Frogger didn't have sideart when I purchased it (still doesn't in fact :/ ). I've only seen one Frogger in person that has side art and it's a machine that belongs to a friend. He just got a repro cp overlay, bezel, and sideart for his. It looks nice too. I was talking to him about why so many Froggers don't have side art. I can't even see anything on mine that would indicated it ever had sideart. I think he theorized that only the early run of Froggers had sideart.

what about the one in super's av? i know ive seen a few with frogs like that on the side, is that something that was just added later?

[Peale]

Right click and view the image. I think the site doesn't allow hotlinking. When I did that, I could see it fine.

[Hovoc]

I've never see the little frogger stickers shown on the Seinfeld cab, so I would guess that they were just added as a visual ref.


i remember ther ewas an arcade at a camp ground we used to visit back in the day, and they had little grene frogs ont he sides

[SuperGunGuru]

I've never see the little frogger stickers shown on the Seinfeld cab, so I would guess that they were just added as a visual ref.


i remember ther ewas an arcade at a camp ground we used to visit back in the day, and they had little grene frogs ont he sides

Cool. I always thought they were just added to the cabinet for that episode and not something that was actually used.

[Stingray]

I've never see the little frogger stickers shown on the Seinfeld cab, so I would guess that they were just added as a visual ref.


i remember ther ewas an arcade at a camp ground we used to visit back in the day, and they had little grene frogs ont he sides

Cool. I always thought they were just added to the cabinet for that episode and not something that was actually used.

Me too, I've never seen that side art exept on the Seinfeld episode. I have seen the sideart on Frogger cabs, but they were conversions, and the woodgrain cab of an original.

-S