Next Sonic Game: Shadow the Hedgehog [Archive]

GrayFox

03-08-2005, 09:50 PM

Well, the only thing I'm suprized about is the use of a gun...

Shadow has always been my favorite charater from the second he was introduced, and its cool that we actually get to know something about him now. Plus, its PS2, so I'll be getting it for sure.

The gun is EXTREMELY different in my opinion, also, I'm pretty sure that's a typo on the site, because at that induction ceremony, Isuka-san said it was for Gamecube.

SMB

03-08-2005, 11:08 PM

It better be on Cube, if it isn't.... :angry:

MegaDrive20XX

03-08-2005, 11:13 PM

It better be on Cube, if it isn't.... :angry:

It's on Cube, that PS2 in the info is a typo...Naka said it's exclusive to Cube

Iron Draggon

03-08-2005, 11:19 PM

I hope that means exclusive to Cube as far as consoles go... I want it on PC!

SuperNES

03-08-2005, 11:19 PM

Sweet, we get some more 'cube exclusives. anyway i think it's about time shadow got his own game, but i wonder if now all the sonic games will have a light/dark version. (gone the way of pokemon red/blue or that megaman one) like having sonic adventure light and sonic adventure dark and telling people "collect both" as a way of geting more cashh.

NintendoMan

03-08-2005, 11:52 PM

Well the game isn't truely a "sonic" game then. I watched the video and still looks cool though. Definatley Sonic Heroes esc.

Xexyz

03-08-2005, 11:53 PM

It's going to be 3D right? I have a bad feeling it might disappoint me like Heroes and the 2 Adventure games did...

kainemaxwell

03-08-2005, 11:55 PM

Nice to see a different game in the Sonic series after the rehashes of late. Hope this retains the quality of the titles from Sonic Adventure and up!

Slate

03-09-2005, 12:05 AM

Personally i liked shadow ever since i played him the first time.. However i liked it better that he was always mysterious. Now we'll know Too much about him.

I didn't see the video (Yet) I'll download it tomorrow.

Is this game coming for Xbox?

Crush Crawfish

03-09-2005, 12:10 AM

wow, well I can't say I was expecting this. It seems interesting, but is a gun really necessary? It just looks....wrong. I'll still be buying it though. It's nice to see that sega's at least trying something different.

turbos

03-09-2005, 12:45 AM

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadowthehedgehog.PNG

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadowgun.PNG

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadowrun.PNG

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadowslide.PNG

I took a couple of screengrabs. It looks like the 'sonic' game we've been waiting for, except my jury is still out on the gun issue.

MegaDrive20XX

03-09-2005, 12:58 AM

yeah I agree, the gun thing is really a let down...

soniko_karuto

03-09-2005, 01:02 AM

Seems nice with a gun to me, really. I mean, if he did only had the same attacks as in SA:2, you would be whining that he is just a black colored sonic :P

turbos

03-09-2005, 04:28 AM

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadow.gif

kainemaxwell

03-09-2005, 07:09 AM

Looks sweet to me, be intresting how they bring the gun into gameplay elements too. There was a Sonic fighting game??

WanganRunner

03-09-2005, 07:16 AM

I like the 3D Sonic games, at least the first two (never played heroes).

I think I've played though SA1 like 3 times, I love that game.

Bratwurst

03-09-2005, 08:58 AM

Man, this is bunk.

If someone came up to me in 1991 and said 14 years later Sonic will be BLACK and have a GUN I would be drawing parallels to Mario in a trenchcoat with a bowie knife sticking koopas. This is like some retarded dream a middle-school age child would conceive: Sonic's awesome and all.. but what if he had a firearm, and a red sports car?!?!

mr_nihilism

03-09-2005, 09:32 AM

Jive3D

03-09-2005, 09:58 AM

I welcome this. The Sonic series has truly gotten stale. Since SA1 on DC, I've been hoping for a fast pased action game starring SONIC only, the other characters can be in there, fine, but as NPCs - the game needs to be all hedgehog and not broken up with some stupid fishing levels. This could be the fun fast pased sonic game that I've been hoping for, it just happens to not be 'sonic' but it COULD still be fun...

MegaDrive20XX

03-09-2005, 10:14 AM

the gun thing is really a let down...

Perhaps for those that have been a fan of the series since whenever, but for someone like me that never really liked Sonic (sorry), the new gameplay element might seem interesting.

I predict this game will sell fairly well.

Well like E-102 Gamma's missions, it maybe fun as well...the thing is I just realized, is Shadow is not a real hedgehog...he really is a creation of Eggman/Robotnik...so giving him more robot like features (i.e. the gun) is pretty normal I think

Cmosfm

03-09-2005, 10:52 AM

It's going to be 3D right? I have a bad feeling it might disappoint me like Heroes and the 2 Adventure games did...

I suggest you stay away than, you'll probably hate it as well.

*I*, on the other hand, loved Sonic Heroes and the 2 Adventure games more than I liked the Genesis games. So this new game is going to be awesome IMO.

esquire

03-09-2005, 11:44 AM

I'm holding out for Sonic Team to develop "Ron Jeremy The Hedgehog" as their next game instead.

slip81

03-09-2005, 12:55 PM

Looks like it might bee cool, but it will have to great to win me over, as I'm not a big fan of 3D Sonic

Slate

03-09-2005, 02:37 PM

After watching the trailer, It seems allright. Shadow is still mysterious.

Push Upstairs

03-09-2005, 03:16 PM

http://www.caseykiker.com/pictures/shadow/shadowgun.PNG.

I can just imagine Shadow rapping about "dropping G's with his Glock" LOL

goatdan

03-09-2005, 03:25 PM

Personally, I think this really just opens the door for a lot of future innovation with the series. I fully agree with whoever posted and said if he didn't have the gun, people would just be saying, "A game where sonice is black instead of blue... yawn." It seems like it could have a few very interesting elements in it, and I'm more interested in it because of that gun than I was in any of the 3D Sonics since Sonic Adventure. It could really open some interesting gameplay elements...

Or it could suck.

I wonder what else will be different. Seems to me that Shadow may become a Knuckles-like character... and I would welcome him into the Sonic world in that case.

joshnickerson

03-09-2005, 06:34 PM

GOD this is gonna suck. This was Sega's last chance to win me back after Sonic Heroes, but I guess they're not smart enough for that. Shadow looks STUPID with a gun. I laughed my ass off in that first scene where he walks towards the camera and then shoots it. He looks like a freakin TODDLER carrying a gun, which is both hilarious and creepy at the same time.
It's just Sega sputtering out another mediocre game. All they did was take the "Heroes" engine and tweak it so you could use a gun.

Oh, and this is gonna be 'Cube exclusive? Gee, thanks, Sega, for shoveling over another pile of crap to your biggest supporters.

Wavelflack

03-09-2005, 06:41 PM

What a douchebag.

GrayFox

03-09-2005, 06:42 PM

It's just Sega sputtering out another mediocre game.

Well considering none of us have played it, we don't know that for sure yet.

Granted, it might be mediocre, but for all we know, it could rock.

I'm gonna wait and see.

joshnickerson

03-09-2005, 06:58 PM

What a douchebag.

No, YOU'RE A CIGARETTE! LOL

NintendoMan

03-09-2005, 09:49 PM

yeah I agree, the gun thing is really a let down...

WHY?

I guess it would be kinda like Mario getting with a hooker in a game. And that wouldn't be right.

NintendoMan

03-09-2005, 09:51 PM

GOD this is gonna suck. This was Sega's last chance to win me back after Sonic Heroes.

Oh, and this is gonna be 'Cube exclusive? Gee, thanks, Sega, for shoveling over another pile of crap to your biggest supporters.

Well Sonic Heroes wasn't a bad game. And what's wrong with it being a "CUBE" exclusive?

Dimitri

03-09-2005, 09:51 PM

What a douchebag.
No, YOU'RE A CIGARETTE! LOL
LOL Best cartoon evar.

Anywho, can't say I'm a big fan of the whole "gun" thing either, but I figure the least I can do is give it a chance. Perhaps that jackass Naka has finally realized that people play Sonic games for two reason: to play as Sonic, and to run really fast. This looks like it may bring back the whole "not playing as a half dozen characters at once" premise, which just works far better, at least with the quality of the engine they use.

...hell, I'm be hoping they'll just kill off the Sonic Adventure engine...this'd be what, the fifth game to use it? It wasn't that great to begin with, anyway...

joshnickerson

03-09-2005, 10:04 PM

Well Sonic Heroes wasn't a bad game. And what's wrong with it being a "CUBE" exclusive?

It's wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. Just call me burned after plopping 50 smackers down on launch day and getting such a let-down.

Nothing's wrong with being a Cube exclusive. I LOVE my Cube! It just feels like a lot of the Cube exclusives that Sega's brought to it lately are just, well, CRAP they know wouldn't sell otherwise.

Sorry if I ticked off anyone from my rant earlier, but a Sonic character running around shooting off a handgun just seems WRONG to me.

NeoSNightmarE

03-09-2005, 10:11 PM

i dont think that this is gonna be all that great. as ive sed on numberous other forums, Sonic was the best when it was 2D and then when they came out with Sonic: Heroes later on down the line, i was majorly disappointed. and the game itself was cool for the first hour, maybe two, then the controls got annoying and it was nothing like when i play Sonic 2 on my Game Gear. i actually had to recover from Sonic Heroes. it took me 3 hours of Game Gear play. then i was back to normal.

crazyjackcsa

03-09-2005, 10:12 PM

A more cartoony gun I think would be better, the realisitic vibe doesn't fit with a hedgehog golding it. And if he was created to be perfect, does ne need a gun?

I'm waiting on a Sonic game that has the original 3, Sonic Tails and Knuckles, like Sonic and Knuckles did. Same kind of gameplay for all three with different tweaks.

garyfoo182

03-10-2005, 05:43 AM

I SOOOOOOOOOO want this therefore it MUST come out on PS2 so ill cry blood

I LOVED Sonic Heroes

ZAG

Amy Rose

03-10-2005, 09:20 AM

Ehhh. I can't say I'm impressed at all with this. I too bought Sonic Heroes when it first came out (a full $100AUS) and played it for about half an hour before I shelved it with disgust. I haven't played it since.

The Sonic universe is getting utterly retarded. What's so bad about sticking with the original characters? I mean, wow, Shadow has a gun. I don't play Sonic when I feel like a shooter (which is never, by the way LOL), I play Sonic when I want to run. Occasionally when I want to dig for urinal cakes. :P

I could say at least it's not a rehash, but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were wayyy better than that Sonic Heroes pile of dross. I WANTED to love that game, but I just COULDN'T. I can see the exact same thing happening here. What's so bad about keeping Sonic, Tails and Knux in their own game without any of the other characters? What's so bad about keeping the original running/exploring formula? There must be something glaringly obvious I'm missing, since Sega seems to be delibrately steering AWAY from what MADE Sonic so successful. There were like, 3 Shadow missions in Sonic Adveture 2 and a billion stupid Robotnik shooting ones. BAH.

Call me closeminded, but shooting doesn't belong in Sonic games, period.

Slate

03-10-2005, 10:05 PM

Am i the only one here that wants an Xbox version?

AFGiant

03-10-2005, 10:21 PM

This is why I love DP so much. We all have our own valid opinions, which we can express and discuss without flaming the smack out of each other.

Personally, I'm willing to give it a chance. Maybe make it a more cartoony gun, a ray gun of some sort. Or some sort of wrist-attatchment that shoots rockets :P
If it ends up being good, I'll end up getting it sooner than later. If its bad, I'll probably end up buying it somewhere down the line just to see for myself. I still have faith in Sonic Team and my favorite blue hedgehog and company.

blissfulnoise

03-10-2005, 10:40 PM

I'll bite as well if it's a straight adventure game like SA1. Otherwise, I'll pass. SA2, SA2:B, and SH were too gimmicky to keep my interest.

The gun thing doesn't really bother me one way or another. It's a newish character with a new element to the Sonic universe.

To cite a recent example, people didn't go up in arms when the new Oddworld game was a FPS (probably because people don't CARE about the Oddworld universe....). It's a testament and a curse to the Sonic series that people are willing to get worked up over that kind of change.

Gemini-Phoenix

03-11-2005, 12:08 AM

It makes sense. Sonic is so PASSE now. He is getting on, and they need a new replacement for the new generation.

Sonic was designed for us. Kids today don't want our garbage, They want something new and improved. Hence, Shadow.

Plus, he also has the bonus of being EXACTLY like Sonic! So no loss there then.

Basically, Sonic is blue. He looks camp, and was designed for people of the 90's. Shadow is black and red. He looks cool. He looks hard, and not cutey like Sonic does. He even has a bit of an attitude.

Doesn't take a genius to see what people are demanding. Sega is just giving the people what they want.

RazorElite

03-11-2005, 12:11 AM

Push Upstairs

03-11-2005, 02:39 PM

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Basically, Sonic is blue. He looks camp, and was designed for people of the 90's. Shadow is black and red. He looks cool. He looks hard, and not cutey like Sonic does. He even has a bit of an attitude.

There was a point and time where Sonic was the one with the attitude. :/

Sonic sort of lost that attitude with the Adventure games. :(

So really what you are saying is that Shadow is really just a copy of the orginal Sonic, but packing heat.

soniko_karuto

03-11-2005, 07:19 PM

I don't know you people, on every other thread, you are getting worked up about everything. On this one is about SA3 (tentatively named) includes shadow and he uses a gun. Hey, i don't know you, but change is welcomed round here, not just the same plain old stuff. Sure we all love the clasics, but THEY ARE CLASSICS, they are not meant exactly for us anyway.

Also a lot of you got all worked up with the revolution hopefully having dvd playback or bigger discs, and the classic "omg t3h nintendo i5 kiddi3' but let's not forget 'thank you nintendo for being one generation late for everything'.

Lemme get this straight, you can accept innovation when someone else does it, but not when nintendo is trying it? I'm just guessing, video games kinda kicked up again in the late 80's, early 90's because of who? yes, it was nintendo.

This may sound as yet another fanboy rant' but it's not just me who may see it like this.

Sure sega is trying to innovate using shadow for a game. IS IT THAT BAD FOR YOU PEOPLE? can't you just accept the fact that things change? what were the online play nay sayers saying when they announced live? it was something new, so they had to crap on it before just accepting it.

I just don't understand, you don't like something, you don't buy it. Just cause a lot of us are collectors, it doesn't mean to go and buy everything they shove up a store shelf. Show them you don't like the idea of revolution, or shadow, don't buy the damn game/system and you are all set!

Ok, please don't pay attention to the rant.

Virtualboy

03-11-2005, 08:13 PM

Seems nice with a gun to me, really. I mean, if he did only had the same attacks as in SA:2, you would be whining that he is just a black colored sonic :P

yea thats true just a ni.... w8 a black colored sonic. ;)

Virtualboy

03-11-2005, 08:15 PM

Am i the only one here that wants an Xbox version?
i second that

kainemaxwell

04-13-2005, 08:14 PM

IGN's got a preview and some info on Shadow now:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/604/604096p1.html

sabre2922

04-16-2005, 04:20 PM

I liked Sonic heroes. It was a good game not the greatest but good nonetheless.

Im not sure how this game will turn out I think it could go either way :hmm:

XxMe2NiKxX

04-16-2005, 06:23 PM

It's multiplatform.

And it's going to suck.

MegaDrive20XX

04-16-2005, 06:28 PM

yeah I agree, the gun thing is really a let down...

WHY?

I guess it would be kinda like Mario getting with a hooker in a game. And that wouldn't be right.

He's supposed to be the Ultimate being....why would something that has "Chaos Control" need a freakin' gun?

THATinkjar

04-16-2005, 07:14 PM

It really bugs me when I read the development team speaking out about getting back to the roots of sonic, and now we're heading as far away from the originals as possible.

We're controlling a different main character, and he has a gun.

Why oh why can't they take a leaf out of Viewtiful Joe's book? 2D has its place, it just has to be beefed up a little. For me, Sonic will NEVER look or play right in 3D.

Slate

08-02-2005, 03:04 PM

I haven't heard of this game in awhile. Has it come out yet, has production on it been halted, Or are developers going to release it on the next generation of consoles?

hbkprm

08-02-2005, 03:22 PM

Gemini-Phoenix said:
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Basically, Sonic is blue. He looks camp, and was designed for people of the 90's. Shadow is black and red. He looks cool. He looks hard, and not cutey like Sonic does. He even has a bit of an attitude.

There was a point and time where Sonic was the one with the attitude.

Sonic sort of lost that attitude with the Adventure games.

So really what you are saying is that Shadow is really just a copy of the orginal Sonic, but packing heat.

i said its false
all sonic games are more inovative than the next

Jumpman Jr.

08-02-2005, 03:57 PM

I hadn't seen this thread until now.
The screenshots make the game look really cool. Any news on this?

Muscelli

08-02-2005, 04:19 PM

looks like a flop to me... sega has to go back to sonic adventure 1 aspects with the RPG aspects... sonic adventure 2 was such a letdown :-(

Milk

08-02-2005, 04:28 PM

When Sonic debuted, he was presented as a hip, sassy rodent with an attitude (in contrast to kid-safe Mario). Everyone cool had attitudes in the late 80s and early 90s, so Sonic needed one too. Sonic 2 comes out, and he's still a totally awesome guy. Except now he has Tails, who is sooooo kawaii! Then in Sonic 3, he's snowboarding and Knuckles enters the picture as a streetwise, mad phat monotreme with dreadlocks.

The Saturn Sonic game was going to be named "Sonic X-Treme".

Then the Adventure games came along, and they feature soundtracks with rapping, a new, grafitti wildstyle-inspired design for all the characters, and product placement in the form of grinding shoes.

So maybe Sega is pandering to what's trendy by creating a black, angsty hedgehog and giving him a gun, but haven't they been doing that all along?