Action 52 (Genesis) [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 06:24 AM

OK, I've read the description in the online rarity guide here, can anyone offer anymore insight into this game? Is a loose one really worth $35? How much would a sealed one be worth? I'm asking because I've recently found a seller who has a very large quantity of factory sealed ones for a rock bottom price. And I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to clean him out of them for resale value or not. Also, I'm wondering how to tell if they're legit? I can't believe this guy has so many of them in this condition, and I'm about to enter the haggling stage with him, so I need to know more about them before I close any deals with him. I don't wanna get stuck with cases full of useless junk. Is this something that anyone else around here would be interested in buying?

thegreatescape

03-09-2005, 07:08 AM

Well, I paid $5 for a bootleg that looked like a boxed original. 3 weeks later I paid even less for a loose+manual original... both on ebay.com.au.

Obviously if you obtained several sealed copies the value would significantly decrease, though i find it hard to believe anyone would actually pay $35 for this turd (especially loose). ick.
Then again, i dont follow american ebay so Ive no idea how much it routinely sells for. I'd check that first if I were you ;)

digitalpress

03-09-2005, 07:51 AM

Maybe this will help answer your question.

Hooray ginormous URL! (http://search-completed.ebay.com/action-52-genesis_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10Q QfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsbrft ogZ1QQsofocusZsoQQsojsZ1)

30 days of eBay, no auctions for the Genesis version of Action 52. Yeah, it's worth $35. There is one presently in the active auctions with a BIN of $50, which hasn't been bitten on because it's a little too steep. Yeah, it's worth $35.

So let me ask you this, the info on the online guide is pretty thorough:
http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=6820

What kind of additional info do you want to know about the game? I'm curious because I'm always trying to make our online resources answer these kinds of everyday questions.

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vintagegamecrazy

03-09-2005, 07:55 AM

Man if you get those I would try to buy one from you. I would trade fro something in an instant. Keep us posted.

esquire

03-09-2005, 08:35 AM

Hope you weren't watching this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8176155952&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

:D

Actually, there are 3 more available so get them NOW while you can!

Hooray ginormous URL! (http://attr-search.ebay.com/action-52_Games_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQpfidZ1413QQcat refZC3QQa14Z24227QQgcsZ1135QQfromZR10QQalistZa14QQ reqtypeZ1QQsatitleZQ22actionQ2052Q22QQsacatZ62053Q QcatrefZC6QQcurcatZtrueQQftsZ2QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsa disZ200QQfposZ48093QQfsopZ2QQfsooZ2)

A sealed one recently went for about $75 to $90 recently. I won't get greedy. I only took the one I need.

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Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 08:43 AM

Well I was basically just wondering if it would really be worth investing in a large quantity of these. The guy says that he has about 50 of them. But I have no idea how I would know a bootleg from an original, nor do I know what sort of questions I should ask him to find out if what he has are indeed originals and not bootlegs. He claims that they are not bootleg copies. I just asked him if he has any in unopened cases, so I'm awaiting his response. If he does, then I'm especially interested in what I should know about the cases, if this information is available. How many come in a case, are there any specific markings that I should look for on a case, etc. He seems like he'll be willing to cut me an even better deal on multiple copies, so I'm trying to find out as much as I can before I start looking for ways to come up with enough cash to clean him out, or at least to buy enough from him to get rolling.

That's gonna be my biggest problem. I don't know if I can get a loan for them all from any of my friends or family or not, but obviously if these really are legit and I can sell them for only $25 apiece, I could make a very nice profit on these. Yes, he really is asking that little for them. In fact, he wants more for the shipping on them than he does for the games themselves. So of course that's another reason why I'm quizzing him about buying them in volume. I haven't expressed my interest in cleaning him out to him yet, but depending on what he says next I may ask what he wants for all he's got.

But like I said, I don't want to go deep into debt to clean him out, only to find that I've gotten stuck with a bunch of worthless bootlegs or a ton of junk that no one is interested in buying. I searched all over ebay, and all I found was that one overpriced ratty looking loose copy for $50. I know that it isn't worth $50, but I was wondering if a genuine factory sealed one was. Because if I could sell these for that much on ebay then I really would be able to make a very nice profit on these. I'd have that $500 factory sealed Radiant Silvergun that I've been wanting in notime! So if this is the real deal and I can actually move these for whatever price proves to be the magic number, it would be totally worth it to me to take a bunch of junk to a pawn shop or something for the money I need to clean this guy out ASAP.

And therein lies the problem. That's about the only way I know of that I could come up with the cash I need to get rolling, and I certainly don't want to pawn a bunch of stuff so I can get these only to end up losing what I pawned over it. And I'm not even sure that I have anything I can pawn for enough money to clean this guy out. Which means I may have to do some real fast talking amongst friends and family, and you know how that goes. If I can't sell them so I can pay back whoever I end up borrowing the money from, I'll never hear the end of it. It would become known as the great screwup. And I'll be very lucky if any friends or family are even willing and able to help, if I have to go that route. I doubt I can even afford to clean him out. But I do want to try, if they're legit and I really can make a profit.

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 08:47 AM

Hope you weren't watching this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8176155952&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

:D

Actually, there are 3 more available so get them NOW while you can!

Hooray quoting ginormous URL! (http://attr-search.ebay.com/action-52_Games_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQpfidZ1413QQcat refZC3QQa14Z24227QQgcsZ1135QQfromZR10QQalistZa14QQ reqtypeZ1QQsatitleZQ22actionQ2052Q22QQsacatZ62053Q QcatrefZC6QQcurcatZtrueQQftsZ2QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsa disZ200QQfposZ48093QQfsopZ2QQfsooZ2)

A sealed one recently went for about $75 to $90 recently. I won't get greedy. I only took the one I need.

That seller probably got those from the same guy. Hence the need for haste!

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digitalpress

03-09-2005, 08:57 AM

Hope you weren't watching this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8176155952&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

:D

Actually, there are 3 more available so get them NOW while you can!

One more ginormous URL! (http://attr-search.ebay.com/action-52_Games_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQpfidZ1413QQcat refZC3QQa14Z24227QQgcsZ1135QQfromZR10QQalistZa14QQ reqtypeZ1QQsatitleZQ22actionQ2052Q22QQsacatZ62053Q QcatrefZC6QQcurcatZtrueQQftsZ2QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsa disZ200QQfposZ48093QQfsopZ2QQfsooZ2)

A sealed one recently went for about $75 to $90 recently. I won't get greedy. I only took the one I need.

People who list their eBay stuff incorrectly ALWAYS get burned like this!

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vulcanjedi

03-09-2005, 08:58 AM

Yo

I'm sure the multi-cart factor can make it a little more interesting on eBay but in all honesty the games are pretty lame. Some people just hate it. My kids like it and I would actually recommend it for an 8 year old though.

VJ

thegreatescape

03-09-2005, 09:20 AM

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 09:36 AM

I have no idea how I would know a bootleg from an original

Bootleg = plastic sega case, crappy photocopy insert and sega style cart. If its sealed and your not getting them from thailand then theyre more than likely real.

Why couldnt someone turn up a case of darxides instead of this stinker :/

LOL For real! But thanks for the info!

esquire

03-09-2005, 10:00 AM

jajaja

03-09-2005, 10:19 AM

I can't believe this guy has so many of them in this condition, and I'm about to enter the haggling stage with him, so I need to know more about them before I close any deals with him.

Quite possible acctualy. I bought 5 copies of Action 52 for NES from one seller. 4 was factory sealed and one was in mint condition.

Cmosfm

03-09-2005, 10:40 AM

When you get em, shoot me a PM man, I'd like to take one off your hands. :)

tholly

03-09-2005, 11:46 AM

if you get them and someone only needs a loose cart, ill take the box and instructions to go with my loose cart Genny Action 52

Bluteg

03-09-2005, 02:12 PM

Damn, I missed a BIN for one of those. Some guy bought at least 3 of them.

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 02:40 PM

Damn, I missed a BIN for one of those. Some guy bought at least 3 of them.

Gee, I wonder why? Even more so, if whoever is selling them on ebay right now is getting them from the same guy, I wonder why he isn't asking more for them? Maybe he has no idea how much they're really worth either? This is why I was asking about it here, it all seems too good to be true to me. I know it's possible they're legit, but at those kinds of prices it doesn't seem likely. And the guy I'm dealing with sounded like he would hook me up with what he has for even less than that apiece. Which really makes me wonder. How can they be so cheap if they really are the real deal, even on ebay too?

ClubNinja

03-09-2005, 02:44 PM

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 02:54 PM

How can they be so cheap if they really are the real deal, even on ebay too?

If the seller has a whole case of the things and doesn't have any video game collecting knowledge, then to him, he's just got an entire case of some crappy old worthless game. That's why they're cheap.

Yeah, but where would a seller find someone to sell a whole case of them for that cheap? I know where I can get them from, but where is my source getting them from? And if that guy on ebay is getting them from a different source, where is he getting them from? There can't be that many sellers who have no idea what they're really worth! That's why I'm afraid they're actually fakes. Otherwise, my source and that guy on ebay are both total dumbasses. And whoever they got theirs from were total dumbasses too. That's alot of total dumbasses selling an alleged legitimate original recently! I'm not saying that it isn't possible that an old warehouse of them was found recently or something, but that's just it, if that's what happened, then how can they really be as rare and valuable as they're supposed to be right now? Too many of these going for dirt cheap like this will kill their rarity, won't it?

Bluteg

03-09-2005, 03:11 PM

What about the guy that found all those unopened Alladdin Deck Enhancers and sold them on ebay for years. Those were legit but he knew the value and considering this guy selling Actions 52s seems to be only selling jewelry and lead testing kits its doesn't appear he knows their value. Maybe he looked at the completed auctions and didn't see any others and thought they were worthless.

esquire

03-09-2005, 03:55 PM

The seller has just listed some more at $5.99 a piece.

Iron Draggon

03-09-2005, 08:12 PM

And the more he sells out of them as fast as he lists them, the more he'll want for them. Way to go, people. He won't stay clueless for long now!

Promophile

03-09-2005, 08:13 PM

yea and they all dissapeared before I could nab one for myself :( . I bet he's looking at the DP guide right now.

kraboomba

03-09-2005, 08:16 PM

I bought one for the bin $3.99 - hopefully he isn't a scammer :D .

Captain Wrong

03-09-2005, 08:56 PM

Hmm...value? Let's put it this way, someone here gave me a boxed one because it was haunting him. Or something like that.

esquire

03-09-2005, 09:00 PM

And the more he sells out of them as fast as he lists them, the more he'll want for them. Way to go, people. He won't stay clueless for long now!

Hmmm, Should I buy it now for $3.99, or should I wait and not buy one because I should be more concerned about the price going up for other people, especially those who want to buy a lot of them so they in turn can make money off them instead? What kind of twisted logic is this? So what if people are taking advantage of a good deal. I am sure you wouldn't have sold them for $3.99.

frodo2968

03-09-2005, 11:26 PM

I bought one for $3.99 the other day. Haven't heard from him yet, but that is normal these days I guess...

Anyhow, I'll post here once I get it (if I do...I'm a little skeptical ;)).

Bluteg

03-10-2005, 01:46 AM

Well I should have two coming. I paid a few dollars more but I didn't have to deal with the whole ebay thing, :)

Iron Draggon

03-10-2005, 07:38 AM

Hmmm, Should I buy it now for $3.99, or should I wait and not buy one because I should be more concerned about the price going up for other people, especially those who want to buy a lot of them so they in turn can make money off them instead? What kind of twisted logic is this? So what if people are taking advantage of a good deal. I am sure you wouldn't have sold them for $3.99.

Not on ebay, no. But I would've passed on the savings here. I doubt there's enough people here to gobble up all 50 or so copies. I'm just saying that those things have been just sitting there for quite a while now, and not going anywhere. Do a search for completed listings on them. Gobbling them up as fast as he lists them has already affected the price once. It probably will affect the price again. He will start to catch on and start asking around about why they're such a hot item all of a sudden, and when he finds out what an idiot he is, they'll be overpriced in his efforts to compensate for his losses. Just chill on the damn things. I'm sure that he has plenty, and if he doesn't, then I will soon enough. That is if I can even still get them from my source now. If this guy got them from the same source, then he's likely already placing an order for more. Which will limit how many I can get. I started not to even ask about it here because I knew that somehow it would create a frenzy for the damn things before I could even have a chance to make a few bucks on them. But oh well, I certainly should've known better than to draw any attention to it before I had it in stock. I don't even have a copy for myself yet. And at this rate, I'll probably be lucky if I can even get one of the ones the guy on ebay has, much less an extra. I still haven't heard back from my source yet, so it wouldn't surprise me if he comes back and says well sorry but I just sold off the rest of what I had to some guy who's selling them all on ebay. They're selling like hotcakes there.

:/

Captain Wrong

03-10-2005, 09:49 AM

@ Iron Draggon, let's see, you post on a videogame collector's board that a guy is selling a bunch of copies of a game many people want at a really cheap price. What did you expect to happen? That everyone would just ignore it???

Iron Draggon

03-10-2005, 02:30 PM

I'm not the one who fingered the ebay guy. I was only asking about the game. But I might as well have found the ebay guy too, and pointed him out to everyone. If I hadn't asked about the game, he'd still be quietly sitting there, and so would however many copies that he has for sale. But now, the second that he posts a few, they'll be gone before anyone else can get one. Because too many hoarders will buy more than one from him.

At least I had the intention of passing them on to everyone else here who wanted one, at a low price. How many people buying more than one from the ebay guy will be passing their extras on to anyone else here for the same low price? How many of those people will even be willing to sell any of their extras? OK, so you want a couple, one to keep and one to play, I can understand that, so do I. But anymore than that and you're just hoarding them, unless you plan to do the same thing that I plan to do with them.

However, I don't expect anyone else to be saying OK DP, how many of these do you want before I put them on ebay for extortion fees? At least I was gonna distribute them fairly, and still will, if I can get enough of them from my source. But I'm afraid that it may be too late already. I still haven't heard from my source yet, and the ebay guy still hasn't posted anymore for sale yet either. So they're probably talking to each other already, trying to figure out why they suddenly sold out so quickly, and plotting what the extortion fees will be for however many copies remain now. Same thing I was gonna do, to be honest, but only after everyone else here had a fair chance to get one or two copies for cheap. Now I'll be lucky if I can still do that. My source is probably watching how these are doing on ebay too. Which means that my price to buy the ones that he has left will likely go up, possibly tremendously, screwing up my whole plan and preventing me from being able to get enough to offer them here cheaply, as I had planned to before selling off the rest on ebay for as much as I could get for them all.

Hopefully I'll get lucky and these two guys don't even know each other, but I suspect that's highly unlikely. So like I said, they're probably wheeling and dealing with each other over the remaining copies right now, and I'll end up getting nothing out of either one of them, not even just a couple for myself.

I'm almost certain that's why I haven't heard back from my source yet. He's too busy calculating how much more he can get for them by selling them to the other guy, instead of calculating how much less he'll let me have them for. Maybe I'm just being paranoid about it, but things like this make me nervous when I'm trying to work out a deal with someone. I've had too many sellers back out or renege on the deal somehow because unexpected things like this occurred before the deal was finalized, or it ended up costing me even more because of some nefarious "other buyer" offering more for it. And I just don't see how that ebay guy can be getting them from another source. So I'm just nervous about the whole thing going wrong for me now. That's all I'm saying. I've never done anything like this before, and I was already spooked enough about it. Now the only thing that I'm not spooked about is being able to sell these things if I can get some. At least now I do know that there's more than enough interest in them, around here anyway!

ClubNinja

03-10-2005, 09:26 PM

Wow, are you whiney.

Unfortunately, this is how business works. Sometimes you have to act fast and take risks. If you wait for too long or play it too safe, then the next guy enjoys all the benefits. You just as easily could've picked up the games already and started selling them off here. There's really no solid foundation for your complaining - which you've done a lot of lately. And to think, your posts were well worth reading at one time. Just relax.

Bluteg

03-10-2005, 11:08 PM

Iron Draggon, dude if they were that cheap (cheap enough for the ebay seller to list em for $3.99) then you could have ALWAYS at worst got your money back even if it was a crappy dirt common sealed game. You have to jump at stuff like this because if you don't there will be a hundred other people right beind you who will.

imanerd0011

03-11-2005, 01:02 AM

I don't know why you haven't already bought of all them. I don't even collect Genesis, but I would pay $15 for a sealed one if you bought them. Just do it man... damn!

Captain Wrong

03-11-2005, 11:35 AM

Well, Iron Draggon, I guess the moral of this story is if you find something that looks like an incredibly good deal, don't come here and ask people if it is because they're smart enough to read between your lines and will jump on it while you're still debating. Like CulbNinja said, this is how business works. You snooze, you lose. Move your meat, lose your seat. Sorry 'bout your luck, but if I was you I'd chalk this one up to expirence and move on because you really are stating to look like a cryass.

esquire

03-19-2005, 12:46 PM

Well my Action 52 came today. It is an original, not a bootleg. The game is factory sealed. So whoever bought one got one hell of a deal.

Cmosfm

03-19-2005, 01:23 PM

And I'm going to assume that Iron Draggon didn't get his?

Or did he get them and he's holding out on us?

:hmm:

...still shoulda bought em in the first place, I would have. ;) Maybe I did? Maybe I know the guy and bought all his stock? Maybe another DP member did?

*Feeding the "nefarious eBayer" conspiracy*

kraboomba

03-19-2005, 06:03 PM

I got mine today and I'm really debating on opening it on not. I probably won't since I have a loose one for the nes and that blows real hard. But yeah, whoever posted the ebay link, thanks man :)

Lance

esquire

03-19-2005, 07:11 PM

suppafly

03-20-2005, 11:15 AM

I emailed the seller and asked if he had anymore copies. He told me he had 2 more sealed copies, but now hes asking 10 Us for them....I still bought them, 10 US is a GOOD price isnt it?

Thanks again Iron Dragon for starting this thread! :D