Sorry but another "It's New but I opened it " thre

[jonjandran]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8178653079&rd=1

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[Jibbajaba]

I think my favorite part is that he shows the horizontal seam on the back, but doesnt bother to show where it's cut open. What a douche.

Chris

[VGfan]

I don't see what's wrong with this auction.
He makes it pretty obvious what he is selling and he dosn't say anything about it being new either.

[jonjandran]

I don't see what's wrong with this auction.
He makes it pretty obvious what he is selling and he dosn't say anything about it being new either.

Well let's see :

1. The price. $189.99 BIN. Thats what the last 3 SEALED / NEW ones have sold for on Ebay. NOT an opened copy. Thay sell for $100-110.

2.What the Heck does he show a picture of the horizontal seal for ? IT'S OPENED, THE SEAL DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE !!!!

Translation...... The guys an IDIOT .... :P

[rarecube]

I don't see what's wrong with this auction.
He makes it pretty obvious what he is selling and he dosn't say anything about it being new either.

Well let's see :

1. The price. $189.99 BIN. Thats what the last 3 SEALED / NEW ones have sold for on Ebay. NOT an opened copy. Thay sell for $100-110.

2.What the Heck does he show a picture of the horizontal seal for ? IT'S OPENED, THE SEAL DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE !!!!

Translation...... The guys an IDIOT .... :P


A bit of respect to him please, hes a great seller and the listing seems fine to me.

1. Chrono Trigger in that condition , does sell for more than 100-110 very easily anytime.
Want a prove....
I will give you the URL of a web where you can sell a mint copy for about 330US .
Check the web below and the offer for Chrono Trigger.

http://www.retrogames.com.au/BuyingUrgently.htm


2. The seal does still matter, does seem newer than a game with no seal at all.
What would you buy?? A banana with a very small part of the peel gone.
Or a banana with not peel at all.

And please jonjandran dont take it personal please, but i do know the person you just called an idiot an hes is a great ebayer and defenetly not an idiot.

Thank you
Cruzway

[VGfan]

Actually factory sealed ones sell for around $500.

And the shrinkwrap might matter to other people. It has probably kept the box in good condition and some people might feel it makes the game 100% complete.

[jonjandran]

Ok why don't you guys stop saying what you think and just post facts.

FACT 1 : Chrono Trigger does not sell for $500 new. It sells for around $189.99

FACT 2 : Chrono Trigger complete and Mint does not sell for $200-300 . It sells for around $75-110

Fact 3 : Leaving a piece of Factory plastic on an opened item does not increase it's value or insure that the item is in better condition than another item.

Fact 4 : I don't care who the seller is , my opinion is that this auction is idotic and that makes the seller an Idiot in my opinion.

Oh and here is Ebay Complete listings on Chrono Trigger to prove my points. <A HREF=http://search-completed.ebay.com/chrono-trigger_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfposZ31831QQf romZR10QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs>Chrono Trigger</A>

[anagrama]

If he's opening sealed games immediately prior to selling them then he's an idiot. End of story.

[jonjandran]

@Cruzway

I'm not trying to be a prick here. But I call them as I see them. Heck I've called myself an idiot lots of times for doing crazy things.

And who knows, someone might buy this game for this price. If they have money to blow and there isn't another one on Ebay.

But it is Ebay Insanity and thats why I posted it here. Trying to sell a game for New/Sealed prices when it's opened is Insanity. And taking pictures of a Horizontal seam like it's still sealed and you're trying to prove it's authentic is Insanity.

Like I said it's nothing personal to you. And the seller probably is a great seller. But on this auction he's not doing so well IMHO.

[jajaja]

Why on earth did he opened it when it has a horizontal seam?
I thought this horizontal seam was some sort of proof that it wasnt re-sealed.

[Scavenger4]

I don't see what's wrong with this auction.
He makes it pretty obvious what he is selling and he dosn't say anything about it being new either.

Well let's see :

1. The price. $189.99 BIN. Thats what the last 3 SEALED / NEW ones have sold for on Ebay. NOT an opened copy. Thay sell for $100-110.

2.What the Heck does he show a picture of the horizontal seal for ? IT'S OPENED, THE SEAL DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE !!!!

Translation...... The guys an IDIOT .... :P


A bit of respect to him please, hes a great seller and the listing seems fine to me.

1. Chrono Trigger in that condition , does sell for more than 100-110 very easily anytime.
Want a prove....
I will give you the URL of a web where you can sell a mint copy for about 330US .
Check the web below and the offer for Chrono Trigger.

http://www.retrogames.com.au/BuyingUrgently.htm


2. The seal does still matter, does seem newer than a game with no seal at all.
What would you buy?? A banana with a very small part of the peel gone.
Or a banana with not peel at all.

And please jonjandran dont take it personal please, but i do know the person you just called an idiot an hes is a great ebayer and defenetly not an idiot.

Thank you
Cruzway

Is that website in Australian dollars? because those prices are ridiculously high and it doesn't seem logical that anyone that can use that website, wouldn't use ebay...

[Daria]

Umm... this auctions been listed twice, guess the first buyer didn't pay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8174709360&rd=1

[lurpak]

I think the point is, that when you pay for a sealed item, it means it is as good a copy as you could ever have hoped to get.

it doesnt matter how its opened, surgical knife, laser or just tore open by a three year old, its no longer a sealed item, so theres no point trying to say its nearly sealed.

or leaving any of the plastic wrapper at all on, just show it for what it is, a nice mint copy of a desirable game.

[VGfan]

Ok why don't you guys stop saying what you think and just post facts.

FACT 1 : Chrono Trigger does not sell for $500 new. It sells for around $189.99


Certainly not on eBay.
But please let me know where I can get them for that price and I will buy them all.



Fact 3 : Leaving a piece of Factory plastic on an opened item does not increase it's value or insure that the item is in better condition than another item.


That's what you think, it's not a fact.
Maybe you should follow your own advise and "stop saying what you think and just post facts".



Oh and here is Ebay Complete listings on Chrono Trigger to prove my points. <A HREF=http://search-completed.ebay.com/chrono-trigger_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfposZ31831QQf romZR10QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs>Chrono Trigger</A>

That dosn't prove your points. You see the one that ended at $202.50? It's opened but still has the shrinkwrap on it, so maybe it does increase the price afterall?

[jonjandran]

Ok why don't you guys stop saying what you think and just post facts.

FACT 1 : Chrono Trigger does not sell for $500 new. It sells for around $189.99


Certainly not on eBay.
But please let me know where I can get them for that price and I will buy them all.



Fact 3 : Leaving a piece of Factory plastic on an opened item does not increase it's value or insure that the item is in better condition than another item.


That's what you think, it's not a fact.
Maybe you should follow your own advise and "stop saying what you think and just post facts".



Oh and here is Ebay Complete listings on Chrono Trigger to prove my points. <A HREF=http://search-completed.ebay.com/chrono-trigger_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfposZ31831QQf romZR10QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs>Chrono Trigger</A>

That dosn't prove your points. You see the one that ended at $202.50? It's opened but still has the shrinkwrap on it, so maybe it does increase the price afterall?

Let's see there were 5 on that Ebay list that were Mint and Complete for $80-$99 . yea I think that does prove my point. :roll:

And #3 is a fact. Leaving a piece of Factory plastic on an opened item does not increase it's value or insure that the item is in better condition than another item. Just because ONE sold for more with a piece of plastic on it doesn't disprove a fact. :roll:

Oh and as for sealed ones selling for $190 , well maybe they do and maybe they don't . I haven't seen one for a while and I thought that some were selling for that a couple of months ago. But like I said a couple of posts ago , I've called myself an idiot before and I probably will do it again.

[rpepper9]

My brain hurts, I need a nap!

[Daria]

Ok why don't you guys stop saying what you think and just post facts.

FACT 1 : Chrono Trigger does not sell for $500 new. It sells for around $189.99


Certainly not on eBay.
But please let me know where I can get them for that price and I will buy them all.

Go to ebay.com click "advanced seach" in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Then search for Chrono Trigger sealed with the "compleated auctions only" box checked. You'll find jonjandran is indeed correct.

Instead of arguing over it you just need to double check your facts.

[rarecube]

We should leave it at this point....
I think. ;)

[VGfan]

Let's see there were 5 on that Ebay list that were Mint and Complete for $80-$99 . yea I think that does prove my point. :roll:


It dosn't prove your points like you claimed. It only proves that you were right about what a complete one sells for, which is somthing I never even talked about.



And #3 is a fact. Leaving a piece of Factory plastic on an opened item does not increase it's value or insure that the item is in better condition than another item. Just because ONE sold for more with a piece of plastic on it doesn't disprove a fact. :roll:


And how is it a fact that needs to be disaproved? I havn't seen anything that proves it's a fact in the first place. From what we have seen so far it is worth more. And common sense would suggest that it's likely to be in better condition as well.

[jonjandran]

Blah, blah ,, blah.

Tired , that's what you make me.

I have no more time to waste on you.

[VGfan]

Go to ebay.com click "advanced seach" in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Then search for Chrono Trigger sealed with the "compleated auctions only" box checked. You'll find jonjandran is indeed correct.

Instead of arguing over it you just need to double check your facts.

No, I think you do.
The only one that shows up is the one I already mentioned in my other post.
It's not factory sealed, it has been opened, you would know that if you had actually clicked on the auction.

[Gapporin]

Go to ebay.com click "advanced seach" in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Then search for Chrono Trigger sealed with the "compleated auctions only" box checked. You'll find jonjandran is indeed correct.

Instead of arguing over it you just need to double check your facts.

No, I think you do.
The only one that shows up is the one I already mentioned in my other post.
It's not factory sealed, it has been opened, you would know that if you had actually clicked on the auction.

I sense a disturbance in the Force.

VGfan, you're in Denmark, right? Are you using eBay Denmark? Or eBay USA? It could be possible that you guys are looking at two different things here.

[VGfan]

I'm using ebay.com.

There isn't any eBay Denmark. ;)

[Jibbajaba]

http://www.petebevin.com/troll/trollsm.jpg

[Griking]

Oh and here is Ebay Complete listings on Chrono Trigger to prove my points. <A HREF=http://search-completed.ebay.com/chrono-trigger_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQfposZ31831QQf romZR10QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs>Chrono Trigger</A>

Even better, Here's (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8175801914&rd=1) a link to a recently ended auction for a shrinkwrapped copy of Chrono Trigger.

[Daria]

Go to ebay.com click "advanced seach" in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Then search for Chrono Trigger sealed with the "compleated auctions only" box checked. You'll find jonjandran is indeed correct.

Instead of arguing over it you just need to double check your facts.

No, I think you do.
The only one that shows up is the one I already mentioned in my other post.
It's not factory sealed, it has been opened, you would know that if you had actually clicked on the auction.

Actually umm I already did. Which is how I came to realize the auctions already been listed once before (which I posted) and that the only game in comparible non sealed conditon to this auction went for $99 BIN with strategy guide.

I don't know why the other auctions aren't showing up for you, but there's nothing on there for $500, which is the price you quoted. But there... easy link click on jon's post. He got the auctions to show up fine.

[squirrelnut]

a person with 35 posts arguing with someone that has like 3700?

give me a T!

give me a R!

give me an O

give me a L

give me another L

Give me a break and lock this thread or somethin. Geez this forum has gone to pot lately :(

[Snapple]

I can't believe this is even an argument.

Once a factory seal has been opened, it's no llonger going to fetch factory seal money, because it's no longer sealed. Then it's just "complete." The game may still be in great shape, but there are other complete copies that are also in great shape. No way any kind of large tear in the plastic deserves to get 'mint' money. I think that's obvious to most eBay buyers.

People don't pay extra money for sealed copies because they love plastic.

[jajaja]

a person with 35 posts arguing with someone that has like 3700?

give me a T!

give me a R!

give me an O

give me a L

give me another L

Give me a break and lock this thread or somethin. Geez this forum has gone to pot lately :(

Just because a person have more posts here doesnt mean he have more knowledge.

[VGfan]

Actually umm I already did. Which is how I came to realize the auctions already been listed once before (which I posted) and that the only game in comparible non sealed conditon to this auction went for $99 BIN with strategy guide.


I have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes I can see one with a strategy guide that ended at $99.99 buy it now. But how is that relevant? I never said anything about how much a normal complete Chrono Trigger was worth. Also as far as I can see the one you are talking about dosn't even have the manual or the maps.




I don't know why the other auctions aren't showing up for you, but there's nothing on there for $500, which is the price you quoted. But there... easy link click on jon's post. He got the auctions to show up fine.

What other auctions? If you can see any factory sealed Chrono Triggers that ended at around $190 or any at all for that matter, please just give me a direct link. Should be easy.
I never said there were any factory sealed Chrono Triggers that ended recently. That dosn't change that they have been selling for around $500 whenever they do show up.

[VGfan]

a person with 35 posts arguing with someone that has like 3700?

give me a T!

give me a R!

give me an O

give me a L

give me another L

Give me a break and lock this thread or somethin. Geez this forum has gone to pot lately :(

You are not too smart are you? Sad. :/

[jajaja]

Dunno about the prices for a sealed copy of Chrono Trigger. Then I mean never opened, not like in this auction.
Altho, I have seen a factory sealed FF3 go for $800 @_@

[Doonzmore]

Were any of you actually considering buying this game? Unless you perfer to buy and keep your games sealed then don't worry about it, it's the sellers problem that he opened it in the first place. The opened seal doesn't necessarily mean it's not possible for it to sell for much as a new copy, check out this auction here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:BNB:US:1&Item=8163816498


This probably doesn't prove much as I don't have much expertise on Chrono Trigger but the game still looks like it's in damn good condition.

[Daria]

Let's see there were 5 on that Ebay list that were Mint and Complete for $80-$99 . yea I think that does prove my point. :roll:


It dosn't prove your points like you claimed. It only proves that you were right about what a complete one sells for, which is somthing I never even talked about.


I have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes I can see one with a strategy guide that ended at $99.99 buy it now. But how is that relevant? I never said anything about how much a normal complete Chrono Trigger was worth. Also as far as I can see the one you are talking about dosn't even have the manual or the maps.

The game in question in this thread is "mint complete" and not sealed. It is relevant.



What other auctions? If you can see any factory sealed Chrono Triggers that ended at around $190 or any at all for that matter, please just give me a direct link. Should be easy.


Sealed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8175801914&rd=1

$200 not $500. Thought there was more then one but I was mistaken, there just a couple of snes lots going for around that price (irrelevant I know).

Mint complete Chrono Triggers go for $80-$100. Which again, is the condition of the game in this thread. No sealed collector's going to pay more for it, which I completely agree is silly since the game is in brand new condition. But these people don't buy sealed games for mint copies to play, they buy them as perfect little video game packages to most likely resell later. It's a novelty factor as far as I can tell. But that's what some people are into.

[VGfan]

The game in question in this thread is "mint complete" and not sealed. It is relevant.


No because I never said a complete one didn't sell for around $100. Also the one you are comparing it to is missing the manual and maps so I don't see how it's comparible at all. Could you have picked a worse example?




Sealed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8175801914&rd=1

$200 not $500. Thought there was more then one but I was mistaken, there just a couple of snes lots going for around that price (irrelevant I know).


I already mentioned that one and I like I said before, it's you who needs to double check. Read the description, it's not factory sealed at all. It's opened, complete and with the shrinkwrap still on the box, just like the game we are discussing in this topic.





Mint complete Chrono Triggers go for $80-$100. Which again, is the condition of the game in this thread. No sealed collector's going to pay more for it, which I completely agree is silly since the game is in brand new condition. But these people don't buy sealed games for mint copies to play, they buy them as perfect little video game packages to most likely resell later. It's a novelty factor as far as I can tell. But that's what some people are into.


The game you linked to sold for $202.50, even though it just has the shrinkwrap on it. It looks like some people will pay more.

[Promophile]

The price is just part of some peoples obsession with minty fresh games. People will pay out the butt for minty stuff, and a game that still has the plastic and was "just opened once" is as minty as you can get with an opened game. Just check out the auction for a minty Yoshi's Island that ended recently. It went for 100 ish dollars, why higher than normal for the game usually.

[Solar77]

I alrady mentioned that one and I like I said before, it's you who needs to double check. Read the description, it's not factory sealed at all. It's opened, complete and with the shrinkwrap still on the box, just like the game we are discussing in this topic.

The game you linked to sold for $202.50, even though it just has the shrinkwrap on it. It looks like some people will pay more.

VGfan is 100% correct regarding sealed Chrono Triggers. If anyone disagrees, how about this? I will pay $400 right now for a legit 100% sealed Chrono Trigger. I dont even want one. I'm just confident that at that price I could put it on ebay and make a $100-$200 profit.

[jonjandran]

VGfan is 100% correct regarding sealed Chrono Triggers. If anyone disagrees, how about this? I will pay $400 right now for a legit 100% sealed Chrono Trigger. I dont even want one. I'm just confident that at that price I could put it on ebay and make a $100-$200 profit.

Maybe you should have bought this one then .


<A HREF=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8178125867&rd=1>Chrono Trigger New</A>
Boy that sure doesn't look like $500 :roll:

And considering a sealed Chrono Cross sells for $70 by itself
<A HREF=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8176843282&rd=1>Chrono Cross New</A>
, that knocks the price down to $280 for the Chrono Trigger by itself.

But hey what do I know.

[jonjandran]

And here's one for $155.

New or re-sealed, hmmm you be the judge.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8178332761&rd=1

Once again what do I know.