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digitpress Jim
03-22-2005, 09:22 PM
I sooooooooo can't wait for tomorrow, I am going to be buying the Sega Classic Collection :D I have been waiting a while for them to finally bring the Sega Ages to the states and now it is finally here tomorrow :D Who here is going to buy one? For $19.99 @_@ what a hell of a deal! Hell the remixs of the classic music is worth it alone. :D :D :D Take Care everyone

digitpress Jim

SoulBlazer
03-22-2005, 09:25 PM
Which games?

zmweasel
03-22-2005, 09:35 PM
Which games?

Cut 'n pasted from sega.com:

The Sega Classics Collection includes:

Outrun
As you blaze across the checkpoint in your supped up racer, the road branches - which route will you take?

Golden Axe
Travel to the Dark Ages and wield magic spells as a warrior, maiden or dwarf.

Space Harrier
Teleport to deep space in seconds to battle futuristic monsters and robots with lock-on lasers.

Columns
Arrange falling jewels in piles of three or more horizontally, vertically, or diagonally and remove them while making chains that earn you the big points.

Alien Syndrome
Blast invading aliens and rescue the captives held hostage in the spaceship before the clock winds down.

Fantasy Zone
Climb aboard your Opa-Opa (ship) and get rich quick as defeated enemies drop coins.

Monaco GP
You'll leave plenty of tread ripping through these crazy courses. In certain modes, if you cross first, the car is yours.

Virtua Racing
Grab the wheel and take a trip back into Sega history in this remake of the arcade classic.

Tant R & Bonanza Bros
Play alone or grab three friends to play through 40 mini-games! Clear them all and you'll gain access to the special Bonus Game.

-- Z.

Kroogah
03-22-2005, 09:40 PM
BE WARNED

None of these games are the originals. Just to make sure that you're sure.

I'd be all over this if it was direct arcade ports. But alas...

MegaDrive20XX
03-22-2005, 09:45 PM
yes this $19.99 collection are all remakes...from the Sega AGES 2500 series in Japan

Looks really good

GobopopRevisited
03-22-2005, 09:49 PM
Is this series going to be PS2 exclusive?

I'd like to get my hands on Golden Axe and Fantasy Zone, but I haven't yet purchased a PS2.

MegaDrive20XX
03-22-2005, 09:57 PM
pretty much a PS2 exclusive I think

Drexel923
03-22-2005, 10:07 PM
I'll probably pick it up tomorrow. I wasn't impressed with these remakes as individual titles, but as a collection, you can't go wrong for $20.

alexkidd2000
03-22-2005, 10:09 PM
Ya $20 is a steal, but at $25 each in Japan I dont think any of them were worth it on their own.

CreamSoda
03-22-2005, 10:42 PM
Sounds great, I might pick it up! :)

Crush Crawfish
03-22-2005, 10:50 PM
I was thinking about picking it up (mostly for Fantasy Zone & Alien Syndrome), but I've heard nothing but bad things about it...I think I'll wait a little bit.

Gamemaster_ca_2003
03-22-2005, 11:05 PM
Might Pick this up My only complaint is that there are several Games Missing.

Captain Wrong
03-22-2005, 11:07 PM
BE WARNED

None of these games are the originals. Just to make sure that you're sure.

I'd be all over this if it was direct arcade ports. But alas...

I thought it was half and half on originals and remakes.

Still, I agree with your sentiment 110%.

NE146
03-22-2005, 11:35 PM
Oh this is coming out finally? Fuck.. 20 bucks? You can't go wrong. :P I'm snagging it and thanks for the heads up :)

GaijinPunch
03-22-2005, 11:37 PM
Wow, all of them for $20? WTF? Sony really is tight on what can and can't be released in the US. The list is missing the two best ones though. Phantasy Star and Gain Ground.

retroman
03-22-2005, 11:37 PM
maybe...

boatofcar
03-22-2005, 11:39 PM
If any of you pick it up, be sure to post your thoughts here! I was/am really impressed with the emulation in the Sonic Mega collection--hopefully this will be the same.

Push Upstairs
03-22-2005, 11:43 PM
If they were all arcade orginals i would be all over this.

Which reminds me...i need to fire up Space Harrier 32x again...

Arqueologia_Digital
03-22-2005, 11:51 PM
¡I want that collection!!!, but it´s very expensive for me... :/

Maybe some day... :(

Matías

Jibbajaba
03-23-2005, 12:02 AM
¡I want that collection!!!, but it´s very expensive for me... :/

Maybe some day... :(

Matías

Why is it so expensive for you? Just because of shipping?

Chris

SoulBlazer
03-23-2005, 12:11 AM
What's wrong with remakes? If I want to play the originals I'll fire up MAME or track down one of the other console releases.

Maybe I'll check it out.

Lemmy Kilmister
03-23-2005, 12:39 AM
The list is missing the two best ones though. Phantasy Star and Gain Ground.

No biggie, Consriracy and sega are going to be releasing Phantasy Star 1,2 and 4 in one single bidget title too. Atleast I hope they're still going to do this.

thegreatescape
03-23-2005, 01:02 AM
Im assuming this is another title PAL gamers are left out in the cold for ?
:/

digitpress Jim
03-23-2005, 03:25 AM
Hopefully if the Sega Classic Collection sales a lot of copies and at only $20 I don't see how it can't, Sega will release another collection that includes Phantasy Star, Gain Ground and all the others :D Here is to hoping :D :D :D


digitpress Jim

Tron 2.0
03-23-2005, 05:00 AM
Hopefully if the Sega Classic Collection sales a lot of copies and at only $20 I don't see how it can't, Sega will release another collection that includes Phantasy Star, Gain Ground and all the others :D Here is to hoping :D :D :D


digitpress Jim
There's supose to be a, Phantasy Star collection comeing soon.

Hell if i know if it's comeing or not it had a.... release date now it doesn't werid x_x

Btw still listed at EB if it makes it release date who knows.

http://ebgames.com/ebx/product/244442.asp

DigitalSpace
03-23-2005, 05:44 AM
If all of the games were original arcade/Genesis ports, I would pick this up, but since they're not, I'll pass. I'll give Sega some credit for releasing the Sega Ages stuff in the U.S., though.

pookninja
03-23-2005, 08:05 AM
i have this preordered,and im just waiting for gamecrazy to call me to tell me it is in.i have had it preordered for a couple months,actually.i also have the phantasy star collection for ps2 preordered already as well,it might not come out until may,but im ready for that right now,and its only 20 dollars too.

klausien
03-23-2005, 08:28 AM
The Ferrari in OutRun may be a Mitsubishi Eclipse knockoff and the Golden Axe remake a stinker, but the comp is worth it for the near perfect port of Virtua Racing alone. Can finally put that 32X to rest.

Everything else is just a curiousity, but you can go wrong with $20 for VR.

digitalpress
03-23-2005, 08:40 AM
I've been buying the Japan standalones. There's a thread about those somewhere, they're all pretty hit or miss. I love OutRun for example, but no justice was done for others like Virtua Racing. What's cool about the Japan versions is that you get a mini Sega Ages binder with the first game (Phantasy Star) and you get a sheet to put in the binder with each game. The whole set looks really cool all lined up on a shelf as well. It's an expensive option, but I'm a Sega collector :)

I'm really glad this is coming to the states and especially glad that they put them into a compilation. It would have never sold here the way they've got them released in Japan.

Melf
03-23-2005, 08:58 AM
I'll be picking mine up sometime this afternoon! :)

SlicktheZombie
03-23-2005, 09:07 AM
They should have included a remake of Sonic the Hedgehog or Kid Chameleon.

*dies at the thought*

alexkidd2000
03-23-2005, 12:07 PM
Volume 15 is my fav I think. You get Decathalete and Winter Heat, both awesome Saturn games. They also throw in the Dreamcast olympic game, can't remember the name for some reason. I was surprised how close it was to Decathalete.

The Virtua Racing port is also really good.
Virtua Fighter 2 I havent got yet, but I have all the others.
I also dont have the 2 newest, Dragon Force and Fighting Vipers. I wish they would get their crap together and do Planet Harriers.

Looks like Phantasy Star 2 is next.

MegaDrive20XX
03-23-2005, 12:09 PM
I want the Virtua Fighter 2 Sega AGES really bad...I was very pleased with the screen shots

delafro
03-23-2005, 02:27 PM
Guys, this has been trashed in every review I've read... I know it's exciting because it's retro, but let's take a step back and look at this for what it really is- a tacky, needless 3D remake of games we've all previously got copies of. You can buy whatever you want, of course, but I definitely think this needs to have a closer look before everyone gets all excited about it.

digitalpress
03-23-2005, 02:31 PM
Guys, this has been trashed in every review I've read... I know it's exciting because it's retro, but let's take a step back and look at this for what it really is- a tacky, needless 3D remake of games we've all previously got copies of. You can buy whatever you want, of course, but I definitely think this needs to have a closer look before everyone gets all excited about it.

Let me be the first to not trash it then.

As I said, I've been buying the Japan releases as they come out. This is a VERY GOOD compilation particularly because you're getting remixes of the games. Everyone's got MAME or a modded Xbox these days. Everyone can pretty much get access to the arcade ports. But the remixes are PS2 only and they're developed by Sega. That's a good start. They're not ALL winners, but the package itself is very solid. Sega fans will NOT be disappointed.

alexkidd2000
03-23-2005, 02:53 PM
I agree! Especially worth it for $20.

slip81
03-23-2005, 03:05 PM
Everything I hear about this game is bad. The ports are supposed to be really shitty, and since you can get a Genesis and all of those games for around $20, it seems pretty pointless.

digitalpress
03-23-2005, 03:09 PM
Everything I hear about this game is bad. The ports are supposed to be really shitty, and since you can get a Genesis and all of those games for around $20, it seems pretty pointless.

It's not.

The games are considerably better than the Genesis versions. For example, the OutRun game not only has the original arcade game with remixed (much better) graphics but also has a diamond-shaped course where new competitors join the track after each checkpoint. Other games, like Space Harrier and Alien Syndrome add some GREAT power-up options.

Don't deny the game before even trying it - and you should all know better than to believe the often mis-represented reviews of classic gaming compilations.

le geek
03-23-2005, 03:13 PM
Not sure if I'm picking it up right away, but probably in a couple weeks :)

Virtua Racing DX is my favorite 32X game and it would be nice to try out a new version :)

Cheers,
Ben

digitalpress
03-23-2005, 03:15 PM
Not sure if I'm picking it up right away, but probably in a couple weeks :)

Virtua Racing DX is my favorite 32X game and it would be nice to try out a new version :)

Cheers,
Ben

Sadly, Virtua Racing and Columns get the LEAST appealing upgrades. I honestly didn't notice much of a difference in the PS2 Virtua Racing and the arcade version. I'm not a HUGE fan though, you may see it better than I do.

le geek
03-23-2005, 03:22 PM
Sadly, Virtua Racing and Columns get the LEAST appealing upgrades. I honestly didn't notice much of a difference in the PS2 Virtua Racing and the arcade version. I'm not a HUGE fan though, you may see it better than I do.

As VR has yet to get a really good home port, I'll probably be happy. Although the 32X version added two cars and two new tracks it has some pretty bad popup. I'm a sucker for "early" racing games though (I still like Race Drivin on Import Saturn) so your mileage may vary...

Cheers,
Ben

boatofcar
03-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Everything I hear about this game is bad. The ports are supposed to be really shitty, and since you can get a Genesis and all of those games for around $20, it seems pretty pointless.

It's not.

The games are considerably better than the Genesis versions. For example, the OutRun game not only has the original arcade game with remixed (much better) graphics but also has a diamond-shaped course where new competitors join the track after each checkpoint. Other games, like Space Harrier and Alien Syndrome add some GREAT power-up options.

Don't deny the game before even trying it - and you should all know better than to believe the often mis-represented reviews of classic gaming compilations.


So there are the original arcade versions of the games included? I'm confused...

Raccoon Lad
03-23-2005, 03:33 PM
I don't own a PS2, and I already own the Japanese volume 3, but I'm going to get this for my Fantasy Zone collection.

Drexel923
03-23-2005, 03:46 PM
I picked it up today...these are my favorites of the bunch:

Fantasy Zone
Tant R
Alien Syndrome
Bonanza Bros

I haven't played Space Harrier yet but I'm sure it's good.

The others games on the comp aren't that great, but they are playable. You really can't complain about the price point either...I'd say I definitely got my money's worth.

alexkidd2000
03-23-2005, 03:48 PM
Virtua Racing is pretty much a straight port.

slip81
03-23-2005, 03:53 PM
Everything I hear about this game is bad. The ports are supposed to be really shitty, and since you can get a Genesis and all of those games for around $20, it seems pretty pointless.

It's not.

Don't deny the game before even trying it - and you should all know better than to believe the often mis-represented reviews of classic gaming compilations.

I was basing my opinion from screen shots I've seen, in which the games looked like the had really poor graphical updates. I usually don't trust reviews, except from people here and Play.

If everyone keeps saying that it's decent I'll try it out, but it will be a rental first.

digitalpress
03-23-2005, 03:57 PM
So there are the original arcade versions of the games included? I'm confused...

Not exactly.

Imagine the original game ENGINE but with new graphics and sound. Golden Axe is the best example, it IS the arcade game but all the visuals and sound have been updated. Everything, right down to the timing of your four-hit combo, is spot on the arcade.

Damaramu
03-23-2005, 04:10 PM
That's it. I'm convinced! I'm picking up a copy today after work!

I'm a sucker for SEGA games, and this comp. looks nice..... LOL

kainemaxwell
03-23-2005, 04:13 PM
Found PS trilogy over at Lik-Sang. May 1st maybe?
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=142&products_id=6301&

NE146
03-23-2005, 07:17 PM
Imagine the original game ENGINE but with new graphics and sound. Golden Axe is the best example, it IS the arcade game but all the visuals and sound have been updated. Everything, right down to the timing of your four-hit combo, is spot on the arcade.

Whoah.. that's even better then! I LOVE it when they do that. Again I can get the original in so many formats any time. But I love it when they "skin" a game like that though.. where the gameplay is exactly the same but the graphics have been tweaked. They're just so novel to me :)

Probably why I loved EmuDX so much.. Welp, I'm off to Toys R Us

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/dkong.jpg

Dimitri
03-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Picked it up today -- they didn't even have a display box out yet at Gamestop. >_> Space Harrier, Fantasy Zone, and Alien Syndrome own me...

I got the spacebeam, yeah...

SoulBlazer
03-24-2005, 01:02 AM
Phantasy Star Triliogy has a release date of May 1st. As I said in a recent thread, though, I'll believe it when I get my hands on it. :/

I'll still check out this collection, since remakes are wonderfull.

Tron 2.0
03-24-2005, 06:07 AM
Found PS trilogy over at Lik-Sang. May 1st maybe?
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=142&products_id=6301&
Same thing i link eariler silly O_O

FurinkanianFrood
03-24-2005, 06:18 AM
Guys, this has been trashed in every review I've read... I know it's exciting because it's retro, but let's take a step back and look at this for what it really is- a tacky, needless 3D remake of games we've all previously got copies of. You can buy whatever you want, of course, but I definitely think this needs to have a closer look before everyone gets all excited about it.


Yeah, but for the price I think it's worth checking out if you have a PS2. I would buy it if I still had the system.

Not exactly exciting though. The quality of some of these remakes actually influenced my decision to permanently give up on the PS2 after years of thinking about it.

Though some of them are OK I'm sure.

rbudrick
03-24-2005, 12:25 PM
They've moved the date for PS Trilogy and the Japanese versions of PS 2 and 4 so many times, Im starting to doubt they will even get released.

And Where's Alex Kidd in Miracle World?!?!

-Rob

Cmosfm
03-25-2005, 10:40 AM
I picked this up yesterday when I picked up my PSP, and I'm glad I did. Had about a half hour to skim through it yesterday evening, the improvements are great and really enhance the gameplay. The improved graphics aren't even near PS2 quality, but they are smooth. The sound is much better, once you hear Space Harrier, it's gonna kill you to go back to the original. Same with Outrun!

Mini reviews...

Outrun - I've always felt the original was a bit slow. This version really gives you an amazing sense of speed with great graphics to boot. The sound improvements are quite noticeable as well.

Space Harrier - It sounds so...AMAZING. I've always loved the soundtrack to this game, it's been improved ten fold. The graphics on this one are sweet as well, this may very well be my favorite game.

Alien Syndrome - An underrated classic, one of my all time favorite games. The graphic boost on this one is probably the most noteable of all the games. There seems to be more aliens this time, so it's a bit more frantic. Gobs of blood spew everywhere when you kill the aliens, and at the risk of sounding like a hyperactive 12 year old....it's pretty damn cool.

Golden Axe - I don't see why everyone hated this one so much, I thought it was well done. Yeah, it looks a bit cheesy, but I can see myself playing through and enjoying it. Graphics on this one are a bit ugly though.

Columns - I love this game, Columns is an excellent puzzler. On the other hand, I always have, and always will, HATE the music. It's not "puzzle" music, it's "museam" music. I had to cut it off pretty fast, the music was enhanced, so it sounds "better", but that's depending on your definition of "better". Graphics do nothing here, they didn't even need touched.

Virtua Racing - Pretty much arcade perfect, though I don't remember it being this "slippery" on the track. It's been a while since I played though.

Fantasy Zone - I really didn't notice too much of a graphical boost here, but the sound is much better than what I remember though. Still very colorful and very fun. I just can't play it for long periods of time.

Bonanza Brothers - I never played the original, but the graphics here look pretty nice. It's got that "cartoony" look to it. Very fun game though, I wish I had played it when I was younger, i can see it being a "classic favorite" of mine.

I didn't check out Monaco GP or Tant R but I expect them to be excellent as well, just like the rest of the games.

If you haven't bought this yet, do it right away, I want to see Sega pump out more of these. It's only 20.00, so it's not like it's gonna break the bank!

Final Score.... 9/10 (yep, sounds fair to me)

Cafeman
03-25-2005, 12:03 PM
I bought Sega Classics Collection 2 days ago. I haven't played all the games yet (except to just try 'em out for 2 minutes) but this game is in limited supply and any bigtime SEGA fan will find something to love. Here's some comments, mostly on VR which I've waited a long time for an arcade-worthy port.

Virtua Racing: Any VR fan will LOVE this version. To me, it is the best game on the disc. Far from just a port of the model 1 game (which would still ROCK!), this version has better color and shading, more tracks and runs at a noticeably smooth and satisfying 60fps. And the gameplay feels just right! It's been too long since I played the original but I have played the Genny, 32x (best until now) and Saturn (crappiest) versions so many times. With this version, there is no longer any need to play the Saturn or Genesis versions. The 32x, even at its sub-30fps frame rate, still is a lot of fun and has tracks that are different from these ones.

VR's Gran Prix mode is a real treat because you get 3 extra tracks and can unlock cars like the Prototype and Drift Coup. I laughed at the first unlockable car, "F1 with 70's style acceleration", which means you rocket from 0 to 160 in a few car lengths! But the car isn't quite as fast overall and I haven't placed first on the 6 track 4-laps each) Gran prix with this car yet.

The gran prix shows a couple new courses, which you can also play in free mode. The city level seems VERY close to the 32X VR Deluxe city one, but it looks totally different due to the full polygonal city and roadside is much more "filled in" and complex. There is a new Island and a Canyon track too (different from the 32x desert/canyon one).

What I really like about Virtua Racing is it has harsh penalties for mistakes. If you graze an opponent, you both wipe out, causing nearby opponents to pass you up. This makes the game very challenging and a white-kunckle experience when it comes down to the final lap and you are trying to pass the last 2 cars around curves ... you must be very careful!

Difficulty isn't too hard playing on normal, for me. I breezed through the first Gran Prix race & got 1st place easily. But with the 2nd car, I came only came in 1st place one time. Beat it again with the prototype though. Bump up the music 1 notch to hear it better, play around with those 4 crazy camera angles, enjoy this game!

To this day, I have never seen a racing game with 4 camera views that are so unique from one another. The "high" view is indeed quite high! Half the fun is changing the camera view all the time!

Monaco GP -- At first it doesn't seem like much, but the heavy rock music clips and the booming explosions really harken back to early LOUD videogames. Visuals are nice. It is a vertically scrolling racer, you can't see very far in front of your car, and acceleration / deceleration is controlled (as is steering) by the stick, not buttons! Sometimes it gets dark and your car has a headlights effect -- don't hit opponents, watch out for the speeding emergency vehicles which approach from behind! But horribly noticeable slowdown occurs when more than 3 cars are on-screen (the frame rate doesn't chug, the actual game speed slows down).

Outrun -- haven't played it enough but it seemed a pretty cool retread to me. I don't want an exact port of Outrun, I got that on the Saturn and on Shenmue 1 and 2, and on Outrun 2. I like this "variation" of Outrun.

My kids are playing 2-player Bonanza Bros ... rob banks, shoot cops with little balls, end up in the hoosecow. We also played some 2-player Alien Syndrome. Since you can play Robotron-style, two-sticks for movement + free firing, I found it pretty fun! And gory! Blood spewing from the dead bosses all over the place. HA!

Caf Jr(10 yrs old) is hooked on Fantasy Zone already. He's never played it before and neither have I. It's a very colorful shooter with happy music, well I know it has its fans on this forum.

Frankly, none of these games will get much play until I've had my fill of the EXCELLENT Virtua Racing.

James
03-25-2005, 12:46 PM
The list is missing the two best ones though. Phantasy Star and Gain Ground.

No biggie, Consriracy and sega are going to be releasing Phantasy Star 1,2 and 4 in one single bidget title too. Atleast I hope they're still going to do this.

Phantasy Star I, II and III have already been released on the GBA http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=914399

Why that collection doesn't include IV makes no sense and why this new collection on the PS2 doesn't include III also makes no sense. It's stupid for companies to do these multi releases and not include everything. Several examples include: Midway Arcade treasures 2 includes Mortal Kombat II & 3 but no Ultimate, MK I is on the bonus disc that came with MK Deception Special Edition, the Midway Arcade treasures collection series is ok though they'll release everything in about 5 versions I think. Sonic Mega Collection doesn't include Sonic CD, this current Sega collection is missing stuff, Nintendo's Zelda Collection didn't include A Link to the Past although that one was free so I'm not complaining. The Japanese Final Fantasy Collection came with FF IV-VI, the North American one came without IV which later came along with Chrono Trigger in another collection, they didn't bother adding Final Fantasy III to FF Origins and that collection should have been 2 seperate discs anyway with less tacky intro screens that should have looked more like the FF IV-VI ones did, FF III is being developed for Nintendo DS right now and should be out by year end. MegaMan Anniversary Collection doesn't include Rockman and Forte or MegaMan and Bass as it's called here. Street Fighter Anniversary Collection Doesn't include Street Fighter 1 and some of Alpha 3 is missing as well. Prince of Persia the Sands of Time should have included Prince of Persia 3D even though it was a bad game. It's just an odd annoying marketing thing I guess.

If anyone knows of any complete retro game compilations I'd like to know about them.

rbudrick
03-25-2005, 02:09 PM
They probably diodn't include PS IV on the GBA collection because of memory, budget, or time constraints. I'm sure IV is the hardest to shrink to the GBA Screen. I think when I counted, the GBA screen for PSII was 10x15 "blocks" wide, whereas the Genesis version was 17x21. IV was probably too costly and timely to adapt for emulation (more complex graphically for some scenes).

I ordered the PSII Ages remake last night. Apparently it is released (finally). I'll believe it when it is in my mailbox.

As for the Sega Collection, Wal mart was sold out last night.

-Rob

SoulBlazer
03-25-2005, 02:34 PM
The other BIG differences between the two Phantasy Star Collection versions is that the upcoming PS2 ones are REMAKES.

PS III was never really popular enough to get the remake treatment in Japan, from what I've heard.

Dimitri
03-25-2005, 10:17 PM
Sonic Mega Collection doesn't include Sonic CD.
I maintain that this is because Yuji Naka, in his infinite ego, doesn't want a Sonic game he wasn't involved in getting a re-release.

Drexel923
03-25-2005, 10:21 PM
Well I've spent some more time with the collection and my new favorite game is the "original" mode in Monaco GP. If you haven't picked this up yet, go get it now...definitely one of the best collections I've played to date.

James
03-26-2005, 01:02 AM
They probably diodn't include PS IV on the GBA collection because of memory, budget, or time constraints. I'm sure IV is the hardest to shrink to the GBA Screen. I think when I counted, the GBA screen for PSII was 10x15 "blocks" wide, whereas the Genesis version was 17x21. IV was probably too costly and timely to adapt for emulation (more complex graphically for some scenes).

I ordered the PSII Ages remake last night. Apparently it is released (finally). I'll believe it when it is in my mailbox.

As for the Sega Collection, Wal mart was sold out last night.

-Rob

I disagree with this. Memory is no issue, Phantasy Star I-III are 200 KB - 500 KB and Phantasy Star IV is 2 MB and the smallest GBA carts are 8 MB therefore it will all fit just fine. As for the graphics, I don't like it when they cut down the resolution so it will fit on the GBA's screen but as for examples of the same sort of quality of graphics in ported games for comparisons sake I give you A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy I & II, Donkey Kong Country, Street Fighter Alpha 3, All the Super Mario Advance games, Breath of Fire I & II etc. I don't think they would have to emulate it on the GBA I don't think any of these ports are emulated but I could be wrong.

I do agree that it could have been budget or time constraints but in the video game industry releases always get pushed back and then back again, just look at MegaMan Anniversary Collection for the GBA it still hasn't been released and it's about 10 months overdue. I think it was a marketing thing or they weren't sure if the game would sell although most games for the GBA sell really well. Those remakes do look really sweet though, wouldn't mind picking one up. This isn't going to be cross platform is it?


The other BIG differences between the two Phantasy Star Collection versions is that the upcoming PS2 ones are REMAKES.

PS III was never really popular enough to get the remake treatment in Japan, from what I've heard.

It sucks they aren't remaking III. if they're going to remake any of them they might as well do them all. I like how all the Ys games are getting remade, too bad we won't see them over here. I wish Capcom would remake RE 2, 3 and CV the way they were suppose to, then we'd have a nice complete package, same thing goes for Final Fantasy, they are only now remaking FF III and for the DS too. Should be fun. :-P



Sonic Mega Collection doesn't include Sonic CD.
I maintain that this is because Yuji Naka, in his infinite ego, doesn't want a Sonic game he wasn't involved in getting a re-release.

Yeah I've heard this too. Sonic CD is still a good game though. Too bad it's not included. Makes the package incomplete. They included the original unSegaCDaffied version of the opening and ending videos for the game though which is nice. Although it did come with that bad music in the background. If anyone's heard the difference between the Japanese, European and North American releases of Sonic CD the music is completely different in each region and like with box art North America got screwed yet again.

alexkidd2000
03-26-2005, 02:34 AM
Am I the only one that thought the USA Sonic CD music kicked major ass?

FurinkanianFrood
03-26-2005, 03:00 AM
Am I the only one that thought the USA Sonic CD music kicked major ass?


It does kick ass. It's too cheesy for some people's taste I suppose.

I honestly would have preferred PSIV on the GBA collection. I could care less about 3, though it's not like 3 is bad or anything.

Maybe something to do with the cutscenes? Probably the same laziness that caused the dungeon bug. Still was a nice collection though.

Personally I don't like how the character designs were mucked with in the remakes.

The Phantasy Star games were flawless to begin with (not counting the translation and lack of FM music in the US PStar1). Remakes are pointless. Portability on the other hand is rather nice.

SoulBlazer
03-26-2005, 11:29 AM
Gee, do you ever have anything POSITIVE to say in your posts, FurinkanianFrood? :roll:

VACRMH
03-26-2005, 12:39 PM
Found PS trilogy over at Lik-Sang. May 1st maybe?
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=142&products_id=6301&

Ouch at that price ;) Just in case anyone thinks about ordering it... check here first.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/244442.asp

Same release date as well.

Trevor Belmont
03-26-2005, 12:51 PM
Purists of the original games might want to avoid this collection, but I loved it. Every game was fun with the exception of the disappointing Golden Axe, which is ironically the game I was looking forward to the most. Still a no-brainer though, especially with the $19.99 price tag.

Cafeman
03-26-2005, 02:19 PM
Heh, I just love playing VR for its nostalgia and closeness to early 3D and Virtua Racing Arcade in particular. :)

The return of ... POP UP! Pop up is all over the place. But I consider this a good thing because the original had a distant pop-up effect too! In this version of VR, mostly when you are zoomed out to View 4, you'll see the horizon, mountains, city, whatever building in as you go. It is very distant and never affects you, but its there. Its not nearly as noticeable as on the Genesis/32X versions , in fact it is almost an artistic "choice" style of effect (though I doubt it was put there on purpose, probably is a side effect of cannibalizing the original engine).

Another early-3D side-effect that I noticed in this game -- seams in the polygons! Sometimes you'll notice the blue of the background water/sky showing through the seams of road polygons.

Concerning the game itself, I just finished one entire Gran Prix race. I didn't originally understand its structure but now I get it. I originally thought that after 6 races, I was restarting the Gran Prix. But that's not true, each 6-race event is a "set". To progress from Set 1 to Set 2, you have to place in the top 3. Each set, the game is harder. By the time you get to Set 5 (the final one), you have to place 1st to win the Gran Prix. I could not do well with any vehicle except the awesome-to-control Prototype! In fact I placed 1st in all 6 races of the final Set. You get a VR-shaded poly win ceremony. :)

ANother car I unlocked has "Classic Control", it looks like a PT Cruiser or an old ZZ Top '33 Ford type of car. It isn't very fast but has total traction around curves, making it very easy to control & win with.

Still haven't seen anything about Mirror tracks, I'm starting to think that this awesome option was not included. :(

James
03-26-2005, 02:55 PM
Am I the only one that thought the USA Sonic CD music kicked major ass?


It does kick ass. It's too cheesy for some people's taste I suppose.

I honestly would have preferred PSIV on the GBA collection. I could care less about 3, though it's not like 3 is bad or anything.

Maybe something to do with the cutscenes? Probably the same laziness that caused the dungeon bug. Still was a nice collection though.

Personally I don't like how the character designs were mucked with in the remakes.

The Phantasy Star games were flawless to begin with (not counting the translation and lack of FM music in the US PStar1). Remakes are pointless. Portability on the other hand is rather nice.

I suppose the Resident Evil REmake was no good. It was so much better than the original.



Found PS trilogy over at Lik-Sang. May 1st maybe?
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=142&products_id=6301&

Ouch at that price ;) Just in case anyone thinks about ordering it... check here first.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/244442.asp

Same release date as well.

Whoa that's a price difference. It would suck if you went with Lik-Sang.

Cmosfm
03-26-2005, 03:05 PM
Finally got aroundd to trying Monaco GP and Tant R....

Much better than expected, and I was expecting a lot. Monaco GP "Classic" Mode is so much fun. Tant R is my favorite on the disk now!

BUY THIS GAME, Don't listen to reviews, this is an A+ title

videogameking26
03-26-2005, 04:05 PM
I got it today :)

kainemaxwell
03-26-2005, 04:07 PM
So tempted now to buy it instead of saving!

Beefy Hits
03-26-2005, 08:46 PM
I want it for Alien Downsyndrome and Golden Axe, but I'll wait till they start selling it for $10, which they will.

Golden Axe alone is worth it.. I've played JP version. Don't believe what the reviews tell you.

Sosage
03-26-2005, 11:07 PM
I picked this up at Fry's last night for 16 bucks, was marked 19.99 (on sale already!?!?). I'm not going to write a long winded "review" here...but I will say that at 20 it was a bargain. Purists need to get off their high horses. Broke asses need to go out and recycle some extra beer cans or mow an extra lawn or two (or whatever it is you kids do now days for your money ;P). It is worth every penny imo, even if you already have the originals.

...and Cafeman is dead on about VR. If you're sticking to just arcade mode, you're missing half of the tracks.