Halo 2 ENDING??

[digdug]

Does anybody understand the point of the creature that is talking to Cortana after the credits? Also is there a different ending once you beat it on Legendary?


Thanks

Dig Dug

[Xantan the Foul]

Halo 2 had an ending?

[GrayFox]

Halo 2 had an ending?

wow, my words exactly.

[Neil Koch]

The "ending" is just there more to tease the next Halo game

[s1lence]

No the "ending" isnt any better on legendary, its the same as on the other levels and it could receive the award for WORST ending.

[Spottedkitty]

Does anybody understand the point of the creature that is talking to Cortana after the credits? Also is there a different ending once you beat it on Legendary?

While I agree with everyone that the end could've been somewhat better I still like the story behind Halo and know far to much about it so I'll answer. :)

The "big plant thing" is called Gravemind. Noone knows exactly who or what he is other than being some kinda "super" (perhaps a King/Queen) Flood creature and may or may not be the brains behind the Flood. Truth is, noone knows...at least not until Halo3 comes out. As for his point, well, he's just a plot device in the overall story.

Oh yeahs, and if you want to know a bit more head over to http://halo.bungie.org . There's a ton of stuff about the Halo story over there.

[tholly]

thats the whole problem about people saying anything about the ending of Halo 2....its not an ending...its a segway...to a game that we dont have at our fingertips just yet

it should not be referred to as an ending and should not be criticized for being a bad ending, because it isnt one

[Joelius]

I second Tholly's motion.

[WiseSalesman]

thats the whole problem about people saying anything about the ending of Halo 2....its not an ending...its a segway...to a game that we dont have at our fingertips just yet

it should not be referred to as an ending and should not be criticized for being a bad ending, because it isnt one

That doesn't make it any less of a cop out. You can say that about any series of movies or games. Just because they're planning a sequel and want to leave it open does not mean it should be considered okay to just skimp on the ending of the current game.

[tholly]

Just because they're planning a sequel and want to leave it open does not mean it should be considered okay to just skimp on the ending of the current game.


but thats just the thing....it wasnt an ending

think of it this way....you paused a movie you were watching but then you cant watch the rest of that movie for a year

the movie didnt end, you just didnt get the opportunity to see the rest until a later time

[ubersaurus]

According to the art of halo book, the tentacled creature(Gravemind) is a Flood, built from the remains of thousand of corpses and flood combat forms. It's highly intelligent, and as you can tell from when it tapped into the Halo teleporting grid, fully capable of manipulating technology.

Being the Flood intelligence, it wants to get information out of Cortana. And Cortana, for whatever reason, seemed perfectly alright with that, even supportive. There's speculation she's gone rampant, based mostly on her odd behavior after being put in the control room in Halo 1, and her crossed fingers when telling the Chief she'd blow In Amber Clad's engines. Alternately, she could just be planning on getting some information out of Gravemind herself. Either way, she has her own agenda, it would appear.

No, you get nothing special in the ending for beating it on Legendary. Sadly.

-Kevin, hoping Durga from I Love Bees is Chief's AI companion in Halo 3

[hezeuschrist]

Just because they're planning a sequel and want to leave it open does not mean it should be considered okay to just skimp on the ending of the current game.


but thats just the thing....it wasnt an ending

think of it this way....you paused a movie you were watching but then you cant watch the rest of that movie for a year

the movie didnt end, you just didnt get the opportunity to see the rest until a later time

Then they should have labeled it as such. In ANY series of movies and in ANY series of games, there has been some means of closure at the end of the film or game. Stuff gets resolved, I've never watched any movie or played any game that's got a sequel where they just STOP the game or movie. In each episode of Xenosaga there is an underlying theme for the game, an ultimate goal to achieve before the next incarnation. That's what the return to earth at the end of Halo 2 would have been. One more level, and closure to a question or two. All the star wars movies, LotR novels. They've all got a climax and a resolution to the climax. Halo 2 stops in the middle of the climax of that episode, and I GARANTEE there will be one, maybe two levels at the beginning of halo 3 before we get a big chunk of story and some travel.

Aside from Halo 2, there has never been a movie or game that ends in the middle of an action scene. You jsut don't do that, and Bungie didn't do it to be edgy, they did it to be stupid, or lazy, or assholes. it wasn't an artistic move, and while it certainly intentional it doesn't stop it from sucking any less.

[PapaStu]

From what I understand in regards to the ending is that its actually just what Tholly said. They didnt have enough time to get the 3rd portion of the game done and they were forced to stop there, leaving us with the faux-ending, when its actually just a story teaser portion thats leading to the final part of the game.

In reading the novels its hinted at that Cortana like all AI will eventually go terminal, and theres portions of at least one book thats talking about how Cortana was having issues handling the amount of data that she assimilated from not only the ring, but from the Covanent Battlenet. Maybe this is the start of her downfall, but possibly just her working with the situation shes stuck in (since the Chief is now back at earth and shes still on the ring.

[tholly]

...In ANY series of movies and in ANY series of games, there has been some means of closure at the end of the film or game. Stuff gets resolved...All the star wars movies, LotR novels. They've all got a climax and a resolution to the climax...

I beg to differ. Yes, LOTR had a specific end point at the end of each one, but personally I felt the 1st movie just ended suddenly, that could just be me. Also, I feel Back To The Future also didn't end....look at the segway between 1 & 2....where the film stops during #1 is where the film starts again for #2 .... they just cut one long movie into 3 and based on time that is where they chose to cut it. They made more money of 3 parts and knew no one would sit through a 6 hour movie, but many people would sit through 3 2 hour movies and pay 3 times to see them all.



...it wasn't an artistic move, and while it certainly intentional it doesn't stop it from sucking any less.

Which is your opinion...and thats fine. I'm not gonna change your mind on it, but, I don't feel that there is anything wrong with the segway (it's not an ending, so I won't call it that) between Halo 2 and Halo 3. It leaves you wanting more (i.e. guarantees people will buy #3 if they have finished #2, a smart business move) and prepares you for what is coming next in the story (it's only one story, not 3.)

[Drexel923]

I think I wouldn't have minded the ending so much if the game wasn't so damn short. I started playing the game and in 4 hours it was over. I was all pumped during the movie thinking I was gonna go kick some more ass and then they just pulled the rug out from under me. This game was one of the biggest letdowns after all the hype it had.

[tholly]

I think I wouldn't have minded the ending so much if the game wasn't so damn short. I started playing the game and in 4 hours it was over. I was all pumped during the movie thinking I was gonna go kick some more ass and then they just pulled the rug out from under me. This game was one of the biggest letdowns after all the hype it had.


Legendary and Xbox Live = a whole lot more than 4 hours of enjoyment

[Drexel923]

I think I wouldn't have minded the ending so much if the game wasn't so damn short. I started playing the game and in 4 hours it was over. I was all pumped during the movie thinking I was gonna go kick some more ass and then they just pulled the rug out from under me. This game was one of the biggest letdowns after all the hype it had.


Legendary and Xbox Live = a whole lot more than 4 hours of enjoyment

I like a challenge but Legendary to me is just frustration. I do need to get back and play some more games on Live though.

[WiseSalesman]

Just because they're planning a sequel and want to leave it open does not mean it should be considered okay to just skimp on the ending of the current game.


but thats just the thing....it wasnt an ending

think of it this way....you paused a movie you were watching but then you cant watch the rest of that movie for a year

the movie didnt end, you just didnt get the opportunity to see the rest until a later time

That's absurd.

Even Kill Bill 1 had a more complete ending, and that made no pretenses of being a complete movie. Halo 2 IS considered a complete game.

[ubersaurus]

Bungie wanted a cliffhanger.

Unfortunately no one seemed to explain to them how to make a really good cliffhanger ending, so it just seemed incomplete. Good cliffhanger=lots of tension. Although there was tension in the halo 2 ending, it was all background-there was no obvious threat facing the heroes. Take the Halo 2 trailer ending-Chief surrounded by 6 or so sword elites. THAT'S good tension.