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mumbai
03-30-2005, 07:30 AM
I was reading the DigitPress online blurb on this title:

http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=43

I'm altogether unfamiliar with how/whether items jump from
R? to an actual R-scale, but for this particular title, I thought
I might confirm and add some information:

In the past four years, I've seen/heard of a total of five copies of
Make-A-Face "out there", three of which are in my possession,
and I believe the other two now in the hands of Will Berdan
(the latter statement may be faulty, being based on my own
memories and mild hearsay).

All three copies I've handled fit with Will's discovery that the
cart and manual read "Facemaker" and not "Make-A-Face", so
I've assumed it's also 'just a packaging thing.' I've only seen
it packaged so as a cardboard box -- a further distinction from
the typical packaging of Facemaker proper, as a plastic case.

The copies I've handled have also all originated from owners
in the United States, none of whom could provide any detail
as to how they came to acquire the title themselves (in case
there was a temporal or geographic basis for the packaging).

I'm curious as to whether any other Coleco nuts out there have
specimens of this title, as I've only run across it by accident and
have no solid understanding of its prevalence amongst collectors.
My assumption is that there must be a few (or many) others with
a copy.

That, and I'm wondering whether it's doomed to be rated an 'R?'.

digitalpress
03-30-2005, 12:59 PM
I'm not clear on what you're asking us to do.

Do you want the variant box "Make-a-Face" to be listed with a rarity value? We don't list variants on their own, they're included in the descriptions of the games themselves. However, we could make note in the Facemaker entry that the boxes marked "Make-a-Face" are somewhat rare. Other than that I can't see any changes to be made.

Or am I missing the point?

mumbai
03-30-2005, 01:36 PM
Point taken. I was being unclear.

Perhaps I have misinterpreted the online guide, as it appears that
Make-A-Face is listed separately from Facemaker (the former as a
Rumor Mill item, the latter as a regular US release) -- if this isn't
so, I guess my question ends with an open query as to actual
rarity, as the guide isn't clear on the point (which I understand
to be inevitable for any number of items).

Am I reading the Guide incorrectly? Or am I to interpret the
placement of Make-A-Face as a Rumor Mill item to indicate that
it is (actually, was) rumored that Make-A-Face may exist as more
than just a box?

digitalpress
03-30-2005, 03:46 PM
Am I reading the Guide incorrectly? Or am I to interpret the
placement of Make-A-Face as a Rumor Mill item to indicate that
it is (actually, was) rumored that Make-A-Face may exist as more
than just a box?

It was rumored to be an actual release. When it was discovered that all Make-a-Face is is a box, it was moved to the Rumor Mill.

It's a tricky one - so your question is certainly valid - but our standards would be simply to note the variants in the game's descriptive field, which we've done in the Facemaker entry. There won't be a separate Guide listing for the box of Make-a-Face.

Mayhem
03-30-2005, 04:57 PM
Except for example, the same exists on the C64. There are separate entries for Facemaker and Make-a-Face because of the packaging variation and the difference in rarity. I have actually not seen the Make-a-Face variation with my own eyes, but have told about it and pretty sure I know someone who owns it.

Same with the Maxion releases for example. The carts contains the same game as what is listed in the AKA, but the packaging (and indeed cart label) are different.

digitalpress
03-31-2005, 09:00 AM
Except for example, the same exists on the C64. There are separate entries for Facemaker and Make-a-Face because of the packaging variation and the difference in rarity. I have actually not seen the Make-a-Face variation with my own eyes, but have told about it and pretty sure I know someone who owns it.

Same with the Maxion releases for example. The carts contains the same game as what is listed in the AKA, but the packaging (and indeed cart label) are different.

These exceptions shouldn't exist. Please get in touch with me so we can straighten them out, thanks.