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YoshiM
03-30-2005, 02:30 PM
On another board someone posted NPD sales for the major systems (PSX, N64, DC, etc.) Out of that list it had shown that there was PSX game for AD&D: Tower of Doom that sold a whopping 85 copies. According to the online rarity guide it was a rumored game. Does anyone know if there actually was a Tower of Doom released on PSX or is the NPD just wrong?

kevincure
03-31-2005, 12:43 AM
Iron & Blood is the only US released AD&D game I've ever heard of. As an aside, can you give me a link to that post? I'd be interested in checking it out.

YoshiM
03-31-2005, 08:42 AM
Iron & Blood is the only US released AD&D game I've ever heard of. As an aside, can you give me a link to that post? I'd be interested in checking it out.

Clicky here (http://www.armchairarcade.com/aamain/forum_viewtopic.php?2.16655)

The link also contains the name of the web site the poster got the info from.

Dangerboy
03-31-2005, 11:46 AM
Um...what the hell is Nascar 50th Anniversary? O_o Are we sure these are US titles?

And how the hell did Pitball outsell Ridge Racer Type 4? :O

goatdan
03-31-2005, 11:51 AM
That site just seems off to me. It wouldn't make sense for a company to make less than 1000 copies of a game in this day and age... Companies don't even take orders to press that few.

If it's true, I guess I'm pretty happy though because apparently I own about 5% of the copies of PSX Street Racquetball that were ever made :)

digdug
03-31-2005, 12:54 PM
I do remember seeing Tower of Doom at a EB by me about 5 years ago. I know it wasn't Iron Blood. Just didn't think to grab it. I thought the game would be a common game considering the license.


Dig Dug

dojosky
03-31-2005, 04:42 PM
[quote="Dangerboy"]Um...what the hell is Nascar 50th Anniversary? O_o Are we sure these are US titles?

I recall seeing a special nascar edition game for PSX at walmart years ago it had a variant label ... ive seen it used around here sometimes...

Charlesaway
03-31-2005, 05:10 PM
Not adding or taking away from the credibility of the post, but the numbers are intended to reflect sales, not copies produced.

So a company may have pressed 1000 or 5000 or 10,000 copies of Street Raquetball, but only 212 people actually bought it. ;) (I, unfortunately, was one of them.)

IGotTheDot
03-31-2005, 05:33 PM
TRST data is data compiled by the TRST Company by polling retailers about their sell through. It is not accurate by any means. Wal-Mart does not give TRST their data so publishers use this data to guestimate their sales. By knowing how many units of their own game has sold through, they come up with a multiplier percentage to extrapolate out a closer number for the rest of the games.

BTW this data should not be on a web site. It is very expensive to purchase.

Sothy
03-31-2005, 07:48 PM
It was a side scroller game similar to Golden axe or TMNT:Arcade.

It was advertised and then scrapped, I remember trying to find it because I loved the arcade game so much and was told no U.S. Release.


Im pretty close to positive this never came out for US Playstation market.

goatdan
03-31-2005, 08:02 PM
Not adding or taking away from the credibility of the post, but the numbers are intended to reflect sales, not copies produced.

So a company may have pressed 1000 or 5000 or 10,000 copies of Street Raquetball, but only 212 people actually bought it. ;) (I, unfortunately, was one of them.)

Then the company blows out the rest of them at clearance prices so that they can get rid of their stock for some return on an investment instead of none.

Regardless...

I have five copies, new and sealed. There were another 15 copies at the Toys R Us where I bought my five.

Tonight, while looking through a GameStop and an EB I saw two more.

Checking on eBay, I see 6 closed auctions for the game, and 17 active ones. (Three in one auction.)

You own one.

So, that means that if the game only sold 212 copies, that somehow 36 copies -- or nearly 20% of all the copies in the world -- are easily located right now? of them are easy to locate and can be found for under $10.00 right now?

Something about those numbers has to be a screw up. That just doesn't add up. A really, truly rare game wouldn't ever have that much simple market penetration.

But I guess if someone out there is a collector looking for a gamble, pick up as many copies of Street Racquetball as you can find now. In ten years, it may be worth as much as Stadium Events!

kevincure
04-01-2005, 07:37 AM
Nascar 98 50th Ann. is what we call "Nascar '98 Collector's Edition".

If anyone send me a copy of NFL QB Club 96 or AD&D Tower of Doom, there is a reward. I think this is simply an error.

The very low sales numbers on some games is simply due to their release date. This data seems to be accurate as of, perhaps, 1.5-2 years ago. Nothing released after that date is included, nor, it seems, are sales after that date. So certainly the sales of late-release games are not final numbers. That said, there are some games who have sold too many to be considered "ER" by my list (or 6/7+ on the DP list) and I've readjusted some scores downward. Also interesting: DBGT sold almost 20000 copies before the rerelease. The 5000 number always seemed bogus ,and it turns out it was.

There are a number of quite rare games not on this list: Easter Bunny's Big Day, Blockids, XS Airboat Racing, etc.. You can get fennec fox's compilation of budget PSX game sales from 11/2003-11/2004 at http://www.video-fenky.com/archives/000161.html, which gives Street Racquetball, for instance, another 2200 sales.

If anyone has composite TSRT data as of right now (for the PSX), I would be extremely interested in taking a look. The DC and N64 number seem plausible to me, as well, as those systems were dead as of the numbers being complete.

maxlords
04-01-2005, 08:47 AM
Hell, my local supermarket just got 20+ copies of Street Raquetball here less than a month ago...brand new for $5 Cdn each. Most of em are gone, but I grabbed one.

As for AD&D Tower of Doom for PSX. No way was it released domestically. If it was....that would be BIG news....and a Capcom release. With what Saturn versions go for, I can't even imagine. Lets just say if there WAS one, I wouldn't blink at spending $150-200 on one.

Buyatari
04-01-2005, 11:28 AM
If anyone send me a copy of NFL QB Club 96 or AD&D Tower of Doom, there is a reward. I think this is simply an error.

The AD&D game exists as a prototype.

Adam

maxlords
04-01-2005, 12:24 PM
Sure....but not a retail release. Lots of games were ALMOST released ;)

petewhitley
04-01-2005, 03:17 PM
I have five copies, new and sealed. There were another 15 copies at the Toys R Us where I bought my five.

Tonight, while looking through a GameStop and an EB I saw two more.

Checking on eBay, I see 6 closed auctions for the game, and 17 active ones. (Three in one auction.)

You own one.

So, that means that if the game only sold 212 copies, that somehow 36 copies -- or nearly 20% of all the copies in the world -- are easily located right now? of them are easy to locate and can be found for under $10.00 right now?

Something about those numbers has to be a screw up. That just doesn't add up. A really, truly rare game wouldn't ever have that much simple market penetration.

But I guess if someone out there is a collector looking for a gamble, pick up as many copies of Street Racquetball as you can find now. In ten years, it may be worth as much as Stadium Events!

No kidding. Both myself and my father have one. I see them at local shops with some regularity used. I'm not buying it. I think between Dan, myself, and a few other members we could probably account for 212 sell-through copies ourselves.