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Cirrus
03-30-2005, 11:01 PM
I did a search for Grandia 3 and no one had posted this:

http://squarenet.gamigo.de/main.php?site=sn-news&id=1559

Look at those high-res screenshots (from a Japanese mag)! I read about this on a few fan sites. Looks terrific, doesn't it?

I liked Grandia 1 much more than 2, but this looks (stylistically) like it has some real potential.

DynastyLawyer
03-31-2005, 01:50 AM
Heil mein furher! Ve shall play ze Grandia unt hopefully ve shall not face extreme or one again. Ve shall hope for unt resemblence to number 2.

Jawohl.

Gemini-Phoenix
03-31-2005, 02:38 AM
But isn't Grandia Xtreme technically the third installment?

I like how Square are resurrecting all the old Enix games but adding their expertise into the mix! Very nicely done!


Never know - There may even be a Bust A Groove sequel made with a Square twist...! LOL

Tron 2.0
03-31-2005, 03:26 AM
Since when is Squarenix makeing the new Grandia?

Since the serise is originaly by, GameArts unless there gonna publish it for them.

GaijinPunch
03-31-2005, 05:02 AM
Game Arts is developing it... Square Enix is publishing.

Tron 2.0
03-31-2005, 05:50 AM
Game Arts is developing it... Square Enix is publishing.
Thanks for clearing that up that's what i thought ;)

Xantan the Foul
03-31-2005, 07:11 AM
I still need to play the second one... and the other one, Xtreme, I think.

VACRMH
03-31-2005, 09:56 AM
I still need to play the second one... and the other one, Xtreme, I think.

For Grandia 2, some people say the PS2 version is inferior to the dreamcast (glitches I think)

I know you're looking for more DC games to buy, plus the DC version comes with a soundtrack I believe :)

Just thought i'd tell you.

Xantan the Foul
03-31-2005, 09:56 AM
Yeah, but I already have the PS2 one, just haven't played it.

Drexel923
03-31-2005, 10:00 AM
Yeah, but I already have the PS2 one, just haven't played it.

I would still buy the DC version. The PS2 version has some of the worst slowdown I've ever seen (especially in towns).

Anyway, Grandia 3 looks great...can't wait for some more info.

slip81
03-31-2005, 10:25 AM
I've always been lukewarm on the Grandia series, but this one looks cool. Maybe it will change my mind.

MegaDrive20XX
03-31-2005, 11:00 AM
Game Arts is developing it... Square Enix is publishing.

Exactly what the nice HawaiianPunch just said

Cirrus
03-31-2005, 11:00 AM
I've always been lukewarm on the Grandia series, but this one looks cool. Maybe it will change my mind.

I understand this, but did you ever play through the original?

Rugal
03-31-2005, 11:12 AM
awesome find.

Lemmy Kilmister
03-31-2005, 11:31 AM
Game Arts is developing it... Square Enix is publishing.

Exactly what the nice HawaiianPunch just said

Indeed. Square Enix owns about 15 percent of Gamearts stock, so they call some of the shots now.

Nez
03-31-2005, 01:11 PM
Oh hell yes! I loved the first 2 and have yet to play the 3rd.

I'm just glad GA is developing. I would have been pissed if this was another squarenix game.

Gemini-Phoenix
03-31-2005, 01:40 PM
The PS2 one is extended (Has extra's the DC doesn't) but it does slow down abit in places, and there are one or two weird glitches which the PC version also suffers.

The DC version is the better of the three. It's worth buying the DC version as well as the PS2 one, so you get the best of both worlds

Gemini-Phoenix
03-31-2005, 01:40 PM
EDIT: If this site wasn't so laggy, I wouldn't have made this double post... :roll:

WiseSalesman
03-31-2005, 02:41 PM
Grandia 1 was mediocre, but Grandia 2 was INCREDIBLE. I hope this one turns out to be as good.

Crush Crawfish
03-31-2005, 03:00 PM
Awesome!!!! Looks like I'd better get started on finishing the 1st two games now!

PDorr3
03-31-2005, 03:41 PM
i have been pretty dissapointed when it comes to square enix's games, hopefuly this game will be a change for the better.

Richter
03-31-2005, 04:59 PM
hopefully this new game will at least offer some sort of challenge compared to G2

GaijinPunch
03-31-2005, 05:18 PM
I'd say both have average story lines, but the battle system is by far my favorite in any RPG. Blows the tits off of Final Fantasy's boring fight system.

I'd go for the DC Grandia 2 for VGA alone! This sequel might be reason enough to break out Grandia 2 again.

BigGeorgeJohnson
03-31-2005, 05:30 PM
There's no plans for NA release yet, but I'm sure Square will bring it over.

sabre2922
03-31-2005, 08:54 PM
I agree with wise I thought Grandia 1 was decent at best but Grandia2 on Dreamcast was a very good RPG nice clean graphics a good story (not the best but still good) and controlled perfectly on the DC wich the game was originally made for.
I rented the PS2 version when it came out and yes the translation was bad slow down and a couple major glitches during battle It may be true that the PS2 has some extra content but I didnt bother playing through the PS2 version. To be honest that port turned what was a very good RPG into a barely tolerable mediocre RPG at best in large part because of the sloppy port :/

Im definitely looking forward to Part 3 if it is being developed my Gamearts and published by Square/enix

Also I never played Grandia Extreme since it had so many average to bad reveiws I was wondering is it really that bad?

drwily008
03-31-2005, 09:14 PM
VERY exited about this one!

Dude, when in the hell are companies going to realize that the people who play these kind of RPG's (i.e. NOT mainstream) have a system besides the PS2. If they put this out on the XBOX or Gamecube it would sell better. The fans who own all of those systems are dying for a new RPG to play. And when you bring a game like this out on a system like PS2 it gets lost in the crap that that system churns out like butter.

This is not saying all games that come out on PS2 are crap. It's just that the great sleeper hits are overlooked on the shelves because they have to look through 100 different sub-par racing and 989 studios games to find it!

Cirrus
03-31-2005, 09:50 PM
This is not saying all games that come out on PS2 are crap. It's just that the great sleeper hits are overlooked on the shelves because they have to look through 100 different sub-par racing and 989 studios games to find it!

Not to mention a TON of mediocre RPGs! Very good point!

EnemyZero
04-01-2005, 09:00 AM
i fell in love with grandia 2 , and then i played one after and i enjoyed it just as much, and yes i agree, if you have a DC dont even ... think about buying the ps2 version of 2...xtreme stunk as well....i SO cant wait for this, since its not a port maybe things will begood! looking forward to more news

GaijinPunch
04-01-2005, 03:17 PM
More info:
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~japangaming/forum/viewtopic.php?t=630

drwily008
05-15-2005, 04:04 AM
Hey GaijinPunch have you heard anything new on this game? I found this thread and it resparked my interest. Since you've got the info on the Japanese scene, I wondered if you heard anything else?

tylerwillis
05-15-2005, 04:41 AM
Didn't see this thread originally... sweet, I loved G2. Greatest RPG battle system.

To comment though - I don't think the PS2 G2 has "extra" content. I believe that they just redid some of the ingame scenes into CG for the PS2 version. Everything else is identical - heck, I own both versions of the strategy guide and they are identical except for the cover.

But to reiterate - buy the DC version. Period. It's not expensive (nor as rare as the PS2 version seems to be) - it's well worth it.

Here's to hoping NA will see Grandia III!

FurinkanianFrood
05-15-2005, 05:16 AM
Grandia 1 was mediocre


The PS version a bit inferior to begin with and then the translation got botched.

The Grandia on Saturn was one of the greatest RPG's ever.

I didn't think the PS version was messed up enough for people to consider it mediocre.... It's still better than anything Square ever did on the system.



lukewarm on the Grandia series


Blasphemy...... x_x



i have been pretty dissapointed when it comes to square enix's games


Neither Square or Enix has been involved with anything remotely decent since DQ7.

The PS2 version of Grandia 2 is weak. The DC version is really nice. If you don't have a DC sell yer dumb PS2 and get one......

Extreme is...... extremely offensive. I almost sold my PS2 at that point (as opposed to later) because it looked like (and it was) a harbinger of things to come.

Grandia 3 looks much, much better than extreme, possibly even good, but:

1. Gamearts lost their freakin minds at some point not too long ago based on some of their more recent stuff......
2. With Squeenix in charge I wouldn't be surprised if it was but a highly polished turd along the lines of Squeenix PS2 junk.
3. The character designs are kind of naff IMHO. The girl looks like she really needs to eat something. Elves (I guess she is an elf) are usually thin but jeez. At least she doesn't look entirely out of place like those dudes from Wonder 3 would look in a Grandia game. (Wonder 3 is nice of course, they would just look really incredibly deranged in a modern RPG don't you think?)

It may prove me wrong in some respects though. It may very well be worthwhile if you have the system (I'm the only one who got rid of mine it seems.... I got tired of being disappointed with almost every single game I thought would be worth a damn for 3 years or so......)

It won't hold a candle to the previous games though. Like I said, Gamearts is on something these days, and even if they weren't Squeenix would mess up the game somehow.

These days Squeenix is like F'ing Pack-in-video with a hyper-inflated budget IMO.

It's like every series I liked on previous consoles went to hell in a handbasket on PS2.....

I'm still a big Gamearts fan overall. I would still like to see this game turn out well. I want Gamearts to get better again, but the prognosis is a tad bleak IMO.

At least they didn't go completely to pot like some of my other favorite developers **cough* Taito ***.

Frankie23
05-15-2005, 05:39 AM
I have to say that I agree with the 2 > 1 camp. I fell in love with the combat system of the first one, which kept me motivated to get through the game, in spite of the mediocre plot and dialogue. The second game, however, rocked my world. I've not played the PS2 port, but the Dreamcast original holds a special place in my collection. Gotta love that soundtrack CD too. :)

FurinkanianFrood
05-15-2005, 05:46 AM
I have to say that I agree with the 2 > 1 camp.


Going only by the US releases 2 >> 1. Otherwise I think they are about even.

The story in 2 is better but something about 1 is just.... cheerful. I like the light-heartedness. I like 1 a bit more for that reason. Like I said though, the translation was pretty naff.

The overall emotional character of a game is extremely important to me. Grandia 2 was excellent in that respect but the first one made me feel.... happy when I played it....

So did 2 though....

FurinkanianFrood
05-15-2005, 05:48 AM
I have to say that I agree with the 2 > 1 camp.


Going only by the US releases 2 >> 1. Otherwise I think they are about even.

The story in 2 is better but something about 1 is just.... cheerful. I like the light-heartedness. I like 1 a bit more for that reason. Like I said though, the translation was pretty naff.

The overall emotional character of a game is extremely important to me. Grandia 2 was excellent in that respect but the first one made me feel.... happy when I played it....

So did 2 though....

Kind of like Cotton Boomerang or Kiki Kaikai or Fray CD or something cute like that almost.

FurinkanianFrood
05-15-2005, 05:49 AM
I have to say that I agree with the 2 > 1 camp.


Going only by the US releases 2 >> 1. Otherwise I think they are about even.

The story in 2 is better but something about 1 is just.... cheerful. I like the light-heartedness. I like 1 a bit more for that reason. Like I said though, the translation was pretty naff.

The overall emotional character of a game is extremely important to me. Grandia 2 was excellent in that respect but the first one made me feel.... happy when I played it....

So did 2 though....

But with the first Grandia it's kind of like Cotton Boomerang or Kiki Kaikai or Fray CD or something cute like that almost. Except with an awesome RPG battle system spliced in.

Grandia 2 has the absolute pinnacle of RPG battle systems though IMO.

lendelin
05-15-2005, 11:39 PM
Great news, on second thought: ANOTHER PS2 RPG I have to put on my must-have list? :)

The PS2 game library for RPGs is as good as the for the PS1 in the meantime.

Great that Game Arts developes it, and good that the director of Grandia 2 is in charge, and even better that the character design is in the hands of the character designer of Valkyrie Profile.

The article states that there will be atmospheric differences compared to the first two installments. What that means, we don't know yet.

Strange that I didn't read anything about it in American game mags.

lendelin
05-16-2005, 12:02 AM
Dude, when in the hell are companies going to realize that the people who play these kind of RPG's (i.e. NOT mainstream) have a system besides the PS2. If they put this out on the XBOX or Gamecube it would sell better. The fans who own all of those systems are dying for a new RPG to play.

That's the privilege of THE dominant market leader with the most systems out there by far.

How many RPG enthusiasts are GC or Xbox eclusive owners? My guess is a very low percentage. The title wouldn't sell better on GC or Xbox.

A developer/publisher can sell many more games on the PS2 in particular for niche titles. While Nintendo had to make an effort to get Tales of Symphonia, the PS2 gets Shining Tears, Growlanser Generations, Fulmetal Alchimist, Ys, and many others almost automatically; and the upcoming Atelier Iris and Tales of Legendia will be on the PS2 as well.

Nothing spells love or hate for a system behind those decisions of publishers, it is profit and survival in a competitive market. That's why I don't praise systems, I praise individual games and game offerings for a system.

InsaneDavid
05-16-2005, 01:39 AM
hopefully this new game will at least offer some sort of challenge compared to G2

I have to agree, the original Grandia is my all time favorite RPG and the sequels were huge letdowns compared to it in my opinion.


I agree with wise I thought Grandia 1 was decent at best but Grandia2 on Dreamcast was a very good RPG nice clean graphics a good story (not the best but still good) and controlled perfectly on the DC wich the game was originally made for.

Grandia II had THE most anticlimactic ending in RPG history, it was just kinda "game is over... that's it." Also there was NO challenge compared to the original and pretty much anyone could easily go through the game without dying once. Also the battle system took a step backward from Grandia to Grandia II, it's like they wanted to dumb it down so stats would no longer build based upon time with specific weapons.

You have to remember that Grandia was the Saturn's Final Fantasy VII. The original Grandia had a strange watercolorish beauty to its sprites and an interesting storyline. Grandia II wasn't a bad game, it just lost something with the move to 100% polygons and again, I just couldn't get into the story as much as the original. Also I was pissed that they didn't pick things up at least in the same world as the first.




Grandia 1 was mediocre


The PS version a bit inferior to begin with and then the translation got botched.

The Grandia on Saturn was one of the greatest RPG's ever.

I didn't think the PS version was messed up enough for people to consider it mediocre.... It's still better than anything Square ever did on the system.



lukewarm on the Grandia series


Blasphemy...... x_x

Grandia 3 looks much, much better than extreme, possibly even good, but:

1. Gamearts lost their freakin minds at some point not too long ago based on some of their more recent stuff......
2. With Squeenix in charge I wouldn't be surprised if it was but a highly polished turd along the lines of Squeenix PS2 junk.
3. The character designs are kind of naff IMHO. The girl looks like she really needs to eat something. Elves (I guess she is an elf) are usually thin but jeez. At least she doesn't look entirely out of place like those dudes from Wonder 3 would look in a Grandia game. (Wonder 3 is nice of course, they would just look really incredibly deranged in a modern RPG don't you think?)

It may prove me wrong in some respects though. It may very well be worthwhile if you have the system (I'm the only one who got rid of mine it seems.... I got tired of being disappointed with almost every single game I thought would be worth a damn for 3 years or so......)

It won't hold a candle to the previous games though. Like I said, Gamearts is on something these days, and even if they weren't Squeenix would mess up the game somehow.

These days Squeenix is like F'ing Pack-in-video with a hyper-inflated budget IMO.

It's like every series I liked on previous consoles went to hell in a handbasket on PS2.....

I'm still a big Gamearts fan overall. I would still like to see this game turn out well. I want Gamearts to get better again, but the prognosis is a tad bleak IMO.

At least they didn't go completely to pot like some of my other favorite developers **cough* Taito ***.

You sir, get the award for best post I've read in weeks - 100 meseta.

SoulBlazer
05-16-2005, 01:18 PM
I don't see what was so great about the post myself. :hmm:

People forget almost every major company no longer actually MAKES any games. They just PUBLISH them.

GameArts is the company behind making Grandia 3. All SquareEnix is going to do is translate the game and sell it here in the States. Any other company could do that and it would'nt change the game one bit (assuming the translation is done well, and almost every US company can do a good translation these days). But with a major company like SquareEnix behind the publishing, you KNOW you're going to hear about the game all over the place.

I was a big fan of the first two Grandia games and I hope this one is just as fun.

InsaneDavid
05-17-2005, 04:22 AM
I don't see what was so great about the post myself. :hmm:

It was great because the original Grandia finally got some respect and so forth...

CasualCoreGamer
05-17-2005, 08:52 AM
Finally, after thinking that there would never be another installment of the series, this news kicks my ass. Knowing that it's still developed by GameArts & that the battle system is intact (as well as Square/Enix doing the translation/distribution), I know this is going to be some primo product. Platform designation means nothing to me. It could be an X Box exclusive and I'd still be all over it like a cheap date. I haven't been this excited for a release since RE4.

Lemmy Kilmister
05-17-2005, 09:32 AM
hopefully this new game will at least offer some sort of challenge compared to G2

I have to agree, the original Grandia is my all time favorite RPG and the sequels were huge letdowns compared to it in my opinion.


And I thought I was the only person to think Grandia 2 sucked compared to the original game.

WanganRunner
05-17-2005, 09:51 AM
I've only ever played Grandia 2, on the DC, just finished it in fact.

I really liked it, I think the graphics lend themselves more to the DC than to the PS2, I like the DC's inherent shininess paired with the game's bright colors.

Isn't Grandia Xtreme just the PS2 port of Grandia 2? Am I missing something here?

I really need to grab a copy of Grandia 1

EDIT: Just checked ebay, realized that Xtreme is indeed an entirely different game. I shall now procure it immediately. w00t.

tylerwillis
05-17-2005, 12:01 PM
Grandia II is a direct port of Grandia II. <-- That's not sarcasm, I promise.

Grandia Xtreme is a complete different game - it's a side-story of sorts that feels different from the the first two games. I think most fans regard it as a let-down compared to the previous incarnations.

Rugal
05-20-2005, 10:27 AM
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/grandia3/

Website has updates.....looks awesome.

Found these images (sorry if already posted)

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~grandia/g3images.php?game=3&page=1

Promophile
05-20-2005, 11:14 AM
Grandia 1 was mediocre, but Grandia 2 was INCREDIBLE. I hope this one turns out to be as good.

For me its the exact opposite. 1 was Incredible and 2 was boring.

Cirrus
05-20-2005, 01:18 PM
Grandia 1 was mediocre, but Grandia 2 was INCREDIBLE. I hope this one turns out to be as good.

For me its the exact opposite. 1 was Incredible and 2 was boring.

I agree, big time. 2 seemed very slow and steady, 1 had more interesting characters that I actually cared about.

Here is a nice shot from G3:

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~grandia/images/g3/previews/p47.jpg

Had to bring some pictures into this!

Lemmy Kilmister
05-20-2005, 01:31 PM
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/grandia3/

Website has updates.....looks awesome.

Found these images (sorry if already posted)

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~grandia/g3images.php?game=3&page=1


Man is this game starting to look good. Thanks alot for the new screen shot pics, Rugal. :D


For me its the exact opposite. 1 was Incredible and 2 was boring.


I agree, big time. 2 seemed very slow and steady, 1 had more interesting characters that I actually cared about.

I agree. Not only was the second Grandia weaker gameplay wise but it was also a hell of alot shorter. I believe it only took me 18 hours to finish.

tylerwillis
05-20-2005, 01:34 PM
I think no matter the differing opinions on the first two... we're all excited about the third. :)

Thanks for the pic! That's awesome.

For the record, I fall into the "preferred II to I, but loved both" category.

Rugal
05-20-2005, 07:45 PM
Yeah i was amazed at the pics myself. Sure hope the game turns out to be the RPG i have been waiting for in along while.

Crush Crawfish
05-21-2005, 01:41 PM
So...has this been confirmed for a US release yet? It didn't seem like it was shown at E3. I just beat Grandia 2 and loved it to death, so I'm really hoping we'll get this one here too.

Lemmy Kilmister
05-21-2005, 02:12 PM
So...has this been confirmed for a US release yet? It didn't seem like it was shown at E3. I just beat Grandia 2 and loved it to death, so I'm really hoping we'll get this one here too.


If we're getting Dragon Quest VIII then I'm sure will see a US release of Grandia 3 sooner or later. Hell, if Enix brought over Extreme I have little doubt they'll pass this up.

Rugal
05-21-2005, 08:50 PM
No doubt, it will make its way over here....the question is when......

PDorr3
05-29-2005, 03:59 PM
the time bar on that screen looks incredibly confusing! I am interested to see exactly how they will deal with turns in combat this time around. Hopefuly it is the same as grandia II only with more improvements.

Rugal
06-10-2005, 11:17 AM
Grandia III is set to be released in Japan on August 4th, and has yet to recieve a North America release date, however, just a tid bit of information pertaining to its battle system has been released.

The battle system in Grandia III will have a Strategy Advice System (SAS) and a new Aerial Combo system in battles. During the battle, some of your allies will be able to give you various battle advice, assist you in battles and heal or defend. Sadly, that's all the information present about the SAS system, but expect more updates on it soon!


Source: ALLRPG.com

tylerwillis
07-16-2005, 04:06 PM
The site has put out two trailers - you can navigate to them yourself (on the specials page), or here are the direct links (to the hi-res), first link is under 3 meg, second link is over 30 meg. Yes, it's in Japanese.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/grandia3/movie/cm15_l.wmv

http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/grandia3/pv0804_l.wmv


Looks pretty sweet to me. Some of the cinema reminds me of Skies of Arcadia. And that's not a bad thing.

tylerwillis
01-19-2006, 12:30 PM
RPGamer has a hands-on impression.

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/grandia/grandia3/grandia3imp.html

Grunaki
01-20-2006, 07:35 AM
I actually liked 'Grandia Xtreme', but it felt unfinished.

The fact that you couldn't rotate the landscape around the character with the thumb buttons and that you could 'run away' from the camera in dungeons and had to use that lame 'snap-to-behind-character' button to get back detracted from the enjoyment for me.

I still haven't finished it either - I've fought QuanLee in the end-of-game battle about 5 times, but I haven't got the 'knack' yet, and the fact that the last save point before you reach him is about 10 minutes away (give or take depending on how many battles you have to fight on the way) is highly annoying.

GII was fun on DreamCast. I liked the first one on PSX as well (got it second hand for about 5 pounds, so that was a good buy).

I'll probably pick this one up somewhere along the way, but I don't have much spare time for RPGs these days as I'm married with a baby now...