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njiska
04-12-2005, 08:23 AM
Backwards compatiablity, Backwards compatiablity, Backwards compatiablity, that's all i keep hearing. Honestly i couldn't give a fuck.

I own all three current generation systems and i have no intention of getting rid of them when the new xbox comes out. It's just another device on my shelf. For christ's sake the only main stream system in history that really pushed the backwards compatiblity thing was the PS2, now all of a sudden everyone treats it like it's as standard as a controller. I just don't get it. I love my xbox and i love my xbox games, but when i buy an xbox next (i still like this name the best, fuck 360) i plan on getting it to play xbox next games. if i want to use my xbox games i'll use my xbox. This is how it always was and as long as the keep the total system cost down it's no big deal. I don't want game systems to become something you just trade in every few years. Hell if that's all we're gonna do we might as well start a lease program. That way we could easily afford expensive systems filled with raw power. My point is that too many people are focusing on the past. The xbox next and the entire next-generation is about the future, not about clinging to the past. I admit backwards compatiblity is nice, but it shouldn't be as big a deal as everyone is making of it.

So i could've posted that rant in any number of threads but i put it at the start of this one for a reason. I want to know how many people plan on getting rid of their current system if they buy a next gen system that's backwards compatable and i wanted to give you something to think about before you answer. I chose to rant about the Xbox next becuase it's the only system that hasn't confirmed it.

I really want to know about people with good working systems who plan on selling them or trading in or throwing them in the trash (Three things collectors shouldn't do.)


NOTE: Readers who plan on throwing out their BROKEN PS2s when they get a backwards compatable PS3 please choose broken PS2.

Cryomancer
04-12-2005, 08:35 AM
Nah, I keep my technology around personally. I've never traded in anything. Nor do I plan on starting anytime soon.

However.

I do enjoy having choices as to what I can use to play a game. If the structure of the system is similar enough that backwards compatability is possible, why not? It ain't gonna hurt any to include it.

Kejoriv
04-12-2005, 08:52 AM
No, I dont get rid of the old technology like throwing away my ps1 when i got ps2. My Playstation 1 has lasted a lot longer than my Playstation 2. My PS2 lasted 2 years, my PS1 is still alive and kicking.

Theres nothing like playing the games on the original consoles.

YoshiM
04-12-2005, 08:54 AM
As a collector, backwards compatibility doesn't mean much. However I can understand that it can be a benefit for those who don't collect. It can free up space by the TV (one system as opposed to two) and it makes the decision easier to sell your current system and still keep and play your most favorite games. How can how many million Game Boy owners be wrong? Except for specialty cartridges, the GBA is compatible with all Game Boy and Game Boy Color games. How cool is that?

Lot of people around here are collectors so the answer is probably obvious.

Also, what good is a broken PS2 if it can't play your PS2 (or PSX) games?

Xantan the Foul
04-12-2005, 08:54 AM
I guess it would kind of depend... but for the most part I don't like getting rid of systems.

I gave my old PS1 to my ex-girlfriend since I had a PS2 though. She lost hers when she moved.

Arcturius
04-12-2005, 09:03 AM
I'll be keeping mine like I always do. Especally when the newer ones seen to be less reliable to start with.

Lady Jaye
04-12-2005, 09:08 AM
Well, if the new hardware is truly backward-compatible, why clutter my space with yet one more console? I had a PSOne and bought a PSTwo last fall. About a month ago, I gave my PSOne to my best friend, along with 2 controllers and Final Fantasy Origins (I had bought Final Fantasy I+II for the GBA). In my mind, it was like getting rid of duplicates.

now, of course, you gotta keep in mind that I'm mostly a gamer, not a collector. My way of doing things probably would differ if I were a collector.

atari_overlord
04-12-2005, 09:12 AM
I certainly wont be getting rid of anything but I bet my old systems will end up back in there box and safely stored. I personally think that backwards compatibility is one of the best things to happen to gaming since the two button controller. Space is such a key issue with me.

jdc
04-12-2005, 09:13 AM
Being not your typical DPer....but still a collector, I have no qualms about dumping current gen for a next gen with backwards compatibility. You could say that I collect the software but not the hardware. I wouldn't feel the need to fire up an Xbox if my Xbox Next plays the same software. (only reason would be if the HD files weren't transferable). No one's going to pat me on the back because I still own a "super-rare" first gen run-of-the-mill-black Xbox. Variants like colored shells are an exception because they're different enough to warrant "collecting".

Keeping a PSX made sense because the PS2 didn't read PSX software as well as the 32-bit system did.

FantasiaWHT
04-12-2005, 09:18 AM
I'm one of the two "yeses"

assuming it does it well and doesn't present any problems, yes I'll get rid of the old system. Also assuming I like the controller of the new one :)

It's just a waste of space and money for me to keep the old one around. My budget is slim enough as it is.

I do think that backwards compatibility, while helping SYSTEM sales, actually hurts software sales... just using personal experience as a barometer, but DS vs PSP... they both sold about the same number of systems in our store, but people were buying 2 and 3 games with the PSP and barely ever more than 1 with the DS. Now some of that has to do with the DS launch list basically sucking, but I think another large part of it is parents look at this and say "Gee, I just bought a DS for Johnny. Now I'll get him one new game, but he'll still have all his old GBA games to play" vs. "Gee, I just bought a PSP for Jenny. It would suck just to have one game to play, so I'll buy her two"

thegreatescape
04-12-2005, 09:30 AM
AFAIK the next xbox wont have backwards compat. because of the ATI chipset and no hard drive.

The only time I would sell because of backwards compatability is the GBA/DS, where the DS is superior in some way (better screen). Ive still got my old playstation because its modded, and ive got a psone because theyre not worth selling anymore.

Zach
04-12-2005, 09:48 AM
Ever since I got my second system, which was the Atari 400 (the first being the 2600), I've been taking pride in my big pile of gaming hardware. When the SNES came out, it found a home right next to my NES. When the Xbox 360 comes out, I'll probably just scoot the original Xbox over a bit. Nothing ever leaves!

So I'm almost certainly the exact type of person that backward compatibility is NOT meant to win over. I can certainly understand the appeal, though. Keep that entertainment center looking clean without feeling like you're abandoning your last four years of software purchases! Or when you're begging mom or dad for the next big box, you can definitely use the whole backward compatibility thing to your advantage. As bad as it sounds, there were loads of people out there using their brand new PS2 as merely a DVD player for quite a while, and maybe they popped in a PS1 title or two just so they were playing something on their new "game system". If that backward compatibility had not been built in, I think the PS2 would have had a much tougher time getting started.

So while I think that backward compatibility is a bit silly, myself, I have to admit that I'm thrilled to hear that Nintendo is including GCN compatibility in "Revolution". It's Nintendo, so I'm not worried that they'll cripple the next-gen portion of the hardware at all (like some feel has happened with previous backward-compatible systems like the PS2 and GameBoy Color), and since I'm from the old school, I have a special place in my heart for Nintendo and really, really want to see them succeed. It seems like they have finally learned a few things about marketing, and if they come out of the gate with the stuff they're talking about, like wi-fi, a "hard drive" of some sort, and free online play, I think that backward compatibility could just be icing on the cake that they're baking to celebrate Nintendo's return to dominance. Maybe I'm dreaming, but it sure would feel nice to see Nintendo on top again.

Oh well. Gotta get back to my Xbox! :)

captain nintendo
04-12-2005, 09:59 AM
I would not sell my older system when a new backwards compatible system came out because I am a collector and having more systems in the box and also having a system which I originally bought means something to me. In the case of my gamecube , I will just put it on hte shelf with all of the other Nintendo systems showing the progress in time.

I do play my ps1 games on my PS2 , but I still have my ps1 boxed away.... I imagine I will do the same with my Xbox when it comes time. *shrugs*

I am a collector and a gamer. My stuff is not going anywhere 8-)

NESVIDIOT
04-12-2005, 10:47 AM
Hell no.
Backwards compatibility is for kids parents who can't justify little Johnny owning two systems or more to waste more of the kids time in front of the T.V. and more of their dollars to buy stuff for it. They make them sell them off( hopefully at a garage sale that I go to!!) to get the new system.
I do not advocate using a PS2 to play original PS games or DVD's for that matter- why would you want to put all that extra time on the system running the dust buster when the old PSX works fine and your DVD player doesn't have a cooling system in it??
I will always use the original system for the original game. The ONLY exception to this is with Gameboy, which quite often makes the old games better (lit screen, shades of color etc.)

Gamereviewgod
04-12-2005, 11:11 AM
With this current gen, my Xbox is staying because of the hard drive. Way too many game saves to just get rid of. For the PS2 and GC, assuming they're compatible, then yeah, I'll dump them on eBay. That gives me a little bit of cash back which makes it seem like I didn't spend as much. I'll re-buyof course and then the systems end up in my bedroom where my multiple (PS One, a Genesis) consoles and portables stay.

Gamemaster_ca_2003
04-12-2005, 11:13 AM
No I would Keep It so Just In case the New system stops playing the games It is Backwards compatible With.

Nez
04-12-2005, 11:14 AM
I'll keep my systems thank you very much. In all likely hood they will be "retired" in Capt. Nintendo style.

I am a gamer first a neat person second and a collector third. I hate that I have to use 3 power strips just to use all my systems. There an ugly pile of wires back there with enough coper to wire a mobile home. I just dont have room and I can not justify having an uneccesary system taking up a power plug.

If I had a hugh entertainment center I might sing a different toon. But for now backwards campatability all the way.

Daria
04-12-2005, 11:17 AM
Considering I have like 3 different gennys it's fairly obvious I'm the kind of person who doesn't like to get rid of redundant consoles. I did trade in my PSX for a PSone few years ago, but I didn't like the flip top or the AC adaptor on the new model, so I ended up getting another PSX anyway.

Julio III
04-12-2005, 11:21 AM
i think one of the major benefits of backwards compatibility in a system is that it could help win over converts from another system. Say i have a PS2 now and not an xbox, if the xbox2 was compatible with xbox games i would be more inclined to purchase an xbox2 because i can get new games and all the games i missed out on because i had a ps2 instead of an xbox. So i think it definitely is a boost for a system to include that feature.

I recently got a Nintendo DS, now i really wanted one because of all the new features it had however couldn't justify the expense. However because it can play GBA games i thought it was worth the money (i don't have a GBA) as suddenly you are buying a new system which is exciting but also have a large established games base to go on and as the system has reached maturity you can pick the cream of its games to get

I myself would not throw away an old system because a new system was compatible with it, apart from PCs, actually, they just get shunted to the loft or in a box.

Cmosfm
04-12-2005, 11:42 AM
No Siree.

The whole purpose of being a game collector is having everything, and if I don't have a PS2....I'm lacking something. I sure hope there isn't backward's compatibility though, I want PS2/Xbox/Gamecube to get really cheap, not hold some sort of "psuedo current generation" value like PS1 games seem to have done.

If the new systems are backwards compatible, I'll unhook the old ones and box them up though.

Cobra Commander
04-12-2005, 11:47 AM
Hell no.
Backwards compatibility is for kids parents who can't justify little Johnny owning two systems or more to waste more of the kids time in front of the T.V. and more of their dollars to buy stuff for it. They make them sell them off( hopefully at a garage sale that I go to!!) to get the new system.

The man here speaks the truth. This whole backwards thing seems more the parents than anyone else.
"Well, the new thing's out....won't be needing THIS old thing anymore."
*tosses out 7 month old slimline PS2*

Kid Ice
04-12-2005, 12:24 PM
I will most likely pick up the new X-Box *if* it's backward compatible...I don't already have the ifrst one, and rather than paying 100-150 for one, I'll just hold that money for the purchase of the new system.

I don't think there is enough of a precedent of backwards-compatible systems for me to definitively say whether I'd get rid of the old system. Here's how I feel about the PS2 issue though:

-I need a an original PS to play those few PS2 incompatible games
-I need an original PS to use the incompatible controllers
-I could use two original PSXs for linj up games
-I like to set up separate stations for driving, shooting etc. so I need multiple systems
-I need a PSONE for portability

So to me, getting rid of a PSX would be pretty foolish, in fact I wish I had more than I have.

boatofcar
04-12-2005, 12:51 PM
Depending on my space situation, I might consider it. But you can lump me into the "more of a gamer than a collector" group as well.

DynastyLawyer
04-12-2005, 12:54 PM
I gave out my PS when I was about to get my PS2, to get a friend who was a hardcore PC gamer into the consoles. I wrapped it up, bought a used copy of Xenogears, and said: have fun, chief!

I doubt I could do that with this generation's systems. First off, the systems themselves are getting way to many side-uses. An Xbox is pretty much the only DVD player I have (and I've got a PS2 :-P ) Likewise, I'm in no rush to even get a PS3. This generation was a disappointment by my standards, and while I'm sure there's a new Grand Theft Auto and Halo coming, I'm not quite certain that the game industry is going the direction I want it to go. Not so certain that I can get hyped up about the next 300$ or 600$ I'll have to spend to play a lot of mediocre games, on the off chance I'll stumble into some classics.

Mr.Faxanadu
04-12-2005, 01:02 PM
As for myself, I keep the old ones as collector items and use my xbox to play all old games. In fact, my xbox has almost every game ever made on it. I must say that it's nice not having to plug in different consoles and pulling selected games to play them. WIth my Xbox, all the games are in one tiny console !!.

DeputyMoniker
04-12-2005, 01:08 PM
I only trade duplicates. I almost never sell anything. I doubt the PS2 will ever have much of a collectors value but I'll keep it none the less.

tholly
04-12-2005, 01:11 PM
Nope....I'm a collector..

I don't care if I have 100 systems that play the same games, I'm not getting rid of any of them.

Backwards compatability doesn't mean anything to me, except that when the next Xbox comes out, I can bring that with me to school and still be able to bring my Xbox 1 games with me without having to lug the system to school as well.

slip81
04-12-2005, 01:41 PM
Backward compatibility is nice, but I don't get rid of old systems just in case something happens to the new one.

Plus there are always compatibility issues. Like the PS2 won't play some PSX games, but a PSX obviousl plays all PSX games, and I'm sure the same will be true for the PS3/2

Fuyukaze
04-12-2005, 02:20 PM
No. I refuse to simply because a number of things.

1. Backwords compatability doesnt mean 100% of games will work. While this isnt a problem for a majority of gamers, those who it effects it can sometimes effect them greatly.

2. If the new system does exactly the same thing as the old one then the old one's value will be significantly less then if the new did not. As such, why would I want to spend 150$ or more only to be trading it back in anywheres from 6 months to at most 2 years?

3. Not everything new is worth owning. Looking at how "wonderfull" the launch titles were for the PS2, I cant help but wonder if it would have gone as well if it was unable to play PS1 games, same for GBC and GBA.

Basicly, just because its old doesnt mean its a bad system. Just because something else can do the exact same thing doesnt mean its obsolete. It just means its old and familer. Some people still like that.

njiska
04-12-2005, 05:46 PM
So basically most of you are saying that backwards compatability is very important for you, but you don't need it, but for some reason most of the people on DP seem to think it should be mandatory.

Man the hypocratcy is killing me.

Kid Ice
04-12-2005, 06:14 PM
So basically most of you are saying that backwards compatability is very important for you, but you don't need it, but for some reason most of the people on DP seem to think it should be mandatory.

Man the hypocratcy is killing me.

Yeah, we've all taken the hypocratic oeth.

ozyr
04-12-2005, 06:40 PM
Hey, I'm a collector, like most folks here. I never get rid of old systems - I just put them in storage! ;)
You should see my basement and upstairs.

I even have the habit of buying at least two of everything (systems that is), over time...

Richter Belmount
04-12-2005, 06:48 PM
hell no , ill keep my old system = ).

bargora
04-12-2005, 06:53 PM
So basically most of you are saying that backwards compatability is very important for you, but you don't need it, but for some reason most of the people on DP seem to think it should be mandatory.

Man the hypocratcy is killing me.
Oddly enough, after reading your post and re-reading the thread, it appears to me that you are incorrect. It seems that while the collectors don't care, the gamers definitely like it (backward compatibility), and everybody thinks that it's neat. Unless you were really talking about "backdoor compatibility". ;) In which case I understand you totally, because, you see, the ones who protest the most loudly are usually, like, really totally into it. Isn't that right, POG?

And I'm not sure where your aforementioned hippopotamuses come in. Unless you were playing some Hungry Hungry Hippos? Man, I love me some Hungry Hungry Hippos. I call blue! FOR I AM ALWAYS BLUE. And I will watch AS YOUR ORANGE HIPPO SNAPS VAINLY AT THE EMPTY AIR.

Fuyukaze
04-12-2005, 07:16 PM
So basically most of you are saying that backwards compatability is very important for you, but you don't need it, but for some reason most of the people on DP seem to think it should be mandatory.

Man the hypocratcy is killing me.

What an original post. Generalize then form a half effert response. Honestly, when it comes to cart based games backwards compatability is nothing more then a novelty. As cart based systems so rarely fail, chances are very good what with care a cart based system can last atleast 20 years if not 30. Look at the NES system or the Oddesy 2 if you need examples. Both systems that with care still work despite being older then a number of people who frequent DP. On the other hand, when it comes to CD and DVD based games, it can be very important as the systems themselves even with the best of care have a definite life span. Eventualy all disk based systems fail if for no other reason then a 2$ spring that sprung. More often the laser goes out, or the turning motor goes out. Once that happens, your left with spare parts at best and a large number of games that are absolutly useless to you untill you can either find a system that works or an emulator that runs them. The emu aproach can be expensive as some emus require higer end comps. I cant say to what degree the others agree with me on this outlook, but I believe anyone who has played games longer then 10 years has noticed these things.

Charlesaway
04-12-2005, 10:37 PM
No point in trading in that system for the piddly $30 credit when it can stay hooked up on the shelf. :)

NintendoMan
04-12-2005, 11:38 PM
There is almost going to be NO ONE on here saying they will trade in their old systems, hence the reason everyone pretty much collects on here.

I like playing the original games, on the ORIGINAL systems. It just feels right.

MonkeyWizard
04-12-2005, 11:45 PM
I always keep my systems. However, I like backwards compatibility because it does clear out some TV space.

Uzi 9mm
04-12-2005, 11:46 PM
No way would I sell my old consoles. I would barely get much for them at a Trade-In store, and if I run out of space in the game room, I could always just put it somewhere else.


I like playing the original games, on the ORIGINAL systems. It just feels right.

I agree. I don't enjoy playing PSX games on my PS2 because it just doesn't feel quite right.

Jibbajaba
04-12-2005, 11:47 PM
I think that backwards compatibility is a great idea, and I certainly take advantage of the backwards compatibility of my PS2 and GBA, but I never got rid of my PSX, nor would I. First of all, it has sentimental value. The second reason might sound dumb, but I really like the Playsation intro thing that it first does when you turn the system on (the white screened one). In the PS2, they kept the black screen that has the Playstation logo, but left out the white screen part. Seeing that screen takes me back to 1997 when I used to play the living crap out of my playstation.

Now if the PS3 comes out and is backwards compatible with my PSX and PS2 games, I still wont get rid of my slimline PS2, because I can just move that into the living room and have a playstation in there. Even if I didnt want to do that, I still wouldnt get rid of my PS2, because I am a video game collector, and I dont get rid of anything unless its because I already have one.

Chris

retroman
04-12-2005, 11:50 PM
i would say no, because i am a collector

Videogamerdaryll
04-13-2005, 02:05 AM
Will you trade-in/sell your current system in the next one is backwards compatible?

No,never have never will....

I don't care much for backwards compatibility..

Anthony1
04-13-2005, 02:32 AM
Personally, I think backwards compatability is way, way, way overrated.



Now, having said that, I think that the backwards compatability with the GBA and DS is very nice indeed. But with home consoles, I just don't think it's that great of a thing. I have a PS2, but I have never even once popped a PS1 game in it.


Also, you must understand that I used to be the type of guy who would get rid of their old systems, whenever a new system came out. I would get rid of everything. All my games, all my controllers, memory cards, etc, etc. I would totally clense myself of the older systems and I would completely jump on the bandwagon of the new systems. I was a hardcore early adopter type that wanted the latest and greatest technology, and once I got it, I never looked back at the systems of the past. Of course that was before I got into retrogaming and discovered the errors of my ways.


But even back then, when I would sell everything I had to buy new stuff, I never would have given a rats ass about backwards compatability.

I can tell you right now, that on November 28th, when I come home with my XBOX Next, I'm not going to be thinking about XBOX games. I'm going to be thinking about playing Condemned on my 113 inch Movie Theater screen in my Garage in true freaking HDTV!

But I'm not ever going to sell my XBOX. Hell no. I tricked that puppy out, and I'm never going to get rid of it. And even when it dies, I'm going to gut it and use the case with some different XBOX innards. My XBOX is totally pimped out with CCFL underlighing and a custom paint job and all kinds of little blue led lights and shit. It looks like a freaking spaceship when it's turned on. Plus I got that huge ass 120 gig hard drive in there, with every rom known to man stored on it. With the emulators, it's my own little living video game museum. I think this will be the last system that we will ever be able to do that kind of stuff to, so I will always want to have a tricked out XBOX in my stable.


Anyways, back to the subject at hand. I think Backwards Compatibility is 100 percent mental. It's like a subconscious thing. Fewer than 5 percent of PS2 owners have ever put a PS1 game inside their PS2, but for some reason they like knowing in the back of their dome piece that it has the ability to play PS1 games.

It's quite stupid if you ask me. And the XBOX 2 isn't going to be backward compatible, and there are going to be a lot of people that are going to write it off for that very reason, and it's trully sad.

Amano
04-13-2005, 02:39 AM
I use to do this. I traded in my old gameboys (oh, how I want my limited edition Ice Blue Gameboy Pocket back...) for my SP. This time around, though, I think I'll keep my systems. I didn't trade my SP for a DS. I've gotten into the habit of picking up older systems from people looking to sell them for cash, so I've got a nice little collection.

I'll keep 'em, regardless.

Red Hedgehog
04-13-2005, 03:15 AM
I voted yes, but I wouldn't actually try to sell/trade-in my system at a store. If the next-gen is backwards compatible, it'll hardly get me anything. What I might do, is sell it/give it to a friend, knowing my old library can still be played on the new system.

Honestly, backwards compatibility was what sold me on the PS2. I wanted to get a current geenration console (heck, the original gameboy was the most recent system I had). I knew I had missed out on a lot of good games and the PS2 would let me play some of those quality Playstation games (especially Dragon Warrior VII) as well as the most recent titles. While I thought both X-Box and Gamecube had cool games, the sheer library of the PS2 (which included PSX games) made that system for me.

With the GBA, I was also really happy it could play my original Gameboy games (and all those cool GBC games I misssed). Though, since it didn't really have any competition, it is hard to say if that really factored into my buying.

Money is tight for me, so I will probably hold off on buying a next-gen console. But if X-Box Next isn't backwards compatible, the Revolution would be the one I would get so I could play next gen games and all the great Gamecube titles.

classicb
04-13-2005, 03:23 AM
I'll be keeping them of course like most of us here. I still buy the old systems even when the newer ones are out. I got a Gameboy color after I got my GBA SP. I got a PSOne after I already had my PS2 and I would imagine I'll probably get that slimmed down PSTwo after I already have all the new next generation machines. I like the backwards compatible stuff so I don't have to have so many machines hooked up at once but I like have all the design changes that a system goes through. Also when they do these backward compatible things the old systems become dirt cheap to pick up. I got my PSOne not too long ago with the LCD screen for $45 or so at a used game store. All in all I'm a big fan of collecting systems.

sabre2922
04-13-2005, 05:10 AM
Backwards Compatibility IS important to me thats why Im looking forward to both the PS3 and the Revolution since it is almost a certainty that both of those consoles will be backwards compatible.
This is one of the 2 reasons I finally chose the PS2 over all the current-gen systems backwards compatibility makes for a Huge advantage in a game consoles overall library in my opinion especially in the first couple years of the machines life cycle.

Hell if they stopped making PS2 games RIGHT NOW it would take me years to get all of the many PS2 and PSONE titles in existence that I want to play and collect (I never buy a game that I dont actually like).

While I respect others opinions I dont think that many gamers see all the advantages of backwards compatibilty.
First: all of the money you have invested in the previous console lives on for another generation for far longer than it would in the natural course of things For example look how long they kept selling and manufacturing PSONE memory cards and Dualshock ones.
Second: it gives developers and publishers more incentive to support the "old" game system far longer than normal prime example once again PSOne. what was the last U.S. released game for it? FiFA 2005?
I missed out on games like Valkrie Profile and Dragon Warrior 8 and sooo many more so I plan on getting them and playing them on my PS2 along with Many of the PSONE games I already own.
and besides I wouldnt be able to play my beloved SILENT HILL 1 if it wasnt for Backwards compatibility :evil:

Tron 2.0
04-13-2005, 05:31 AM
I got no problem tradeing in for the new any thing to save space ;)

I Am Humanoid
04-13-2005, 06:00 AM
I got no problem tradeing in for the new any thing to save space ;)

Same rule applies when your girlfriend

starts to look like a Ball Park frank.

Trade that plumper in to save space!

InsaneDavid
04-13-2005, 06:20 AM
I really don't think these two issues (backwards compatibility and tossing out old consoles) should be linked.

Backwards compatibility is great, it means I can have one less console connected to the entertainment center and one less plug crowding the bank of power strips. Basically the older console was replaced with the new one and then the older system is put into storage. I'd rather have my JVC X'Eye connected rather than a Genesis / Sega CD combo that would take up two power sockets.

When the PS2 came out I sold my PlayStation but this was mainly because it was starting to develop problems, I took extremely good care of it but it was transported around a LOT and used heavily. When the smaller PSTwo was released I sold my launch PS2 (the one used as an example on my infamous read laser cleaning tutorial) since the fuctionality was carried over pretty much verbatim with the PSTwo and I had a few people that wanted to buy THAT perticular PS2 unit. (the eventual buyer actually wanted me to sign the damn thing. ^^; )

When the PS3 is released (if it is backwards compatible) I will NOT be getting rid of the PSTwo, it will be boxed up and put away. This is mainly because I like the look of the PSTwo (it's a freaking baby TurboDuo!!), I like the functionality, the incredibly compact size for what it does, and so forth.

If I like the form and function of an old console I'll keep it. I've never collected for the sake of collecting (with the exception of NES carts) - it's always been about collecting what I like.

stevec1636
04-13-2005, 07:54 AM
As a colllector i can never bring myself to trade anything in. Now i might not have the old system hooked up, like right now i don't have my PSX hooked up just to save some room but i still have it. Plus most places don't give all that much for older systems so it's not worth trading in.

Big Papa Husker
04-13-2005, 08:11 AM
I have the same view as njiska. I couldn't ever be able to part with any of my consoles of this generation or any, even if the new ones are backwards compatible. When I was younger when I got the PSX, my dad made me give away... yes GIVE AWAY my NES, because I had 'too many systems.' Then later I had to GIVE AWAY my Genesis. Because of that crap my dad pulled back then I wont want to get rid of any of my consoles, for the fact that ive had a hard enough time replacing the crap that was given away way back then.

I still give my dad crap for not buying me a top-loading NES when there were tons at TRU back in the mid 90s for like $40. His response... you have too many systems. Its funny now because he now really doesnt give a crap about how many I have... Heck, he even waited with me at Best Buy for PS2 and Walmart for the Cube. Heh. Sorry for the long story.. @_@

njiska
04-13-2005, 09:17 AM
First off i apologize for the piss poor quality of my lasty post because i was not right. I didn't have a chance to read through all the post before i wrote that. I was skimming throught them getting ready to post something when my step-dad accidentally slit his wrist artery open (he's fine now), so when all was said and done i didn't actually think to read further through. It was kind of a rushed post between emergency and trying to get 8 hours of sleep before my midnight shift.

The reason i'm a little bitter about backwards compatibility comes from 2 sources. First, my Sony fanboy friends harassing me about it, and second the results of a Gamefaqs poll about it's importance and a few things i've read in some posts here on DP.

To be honest i like backwards compatiblity. I don't have a PSX (original playstation not the crappy PS2 PVR) so i use my PS2 to play Metal Gear Solid. But that aside i don't like that it's becoming such an important issue. I think backwards compatiblity should be treated like a little bonus and not as a core element of the system.

By the way the reason i choose to merge backwards compatibility and throwing out/trading-in old systems is because it's only scenario where backwards compatability becomes really important to a console. If you keep your old console then it shouldn't be as mandatory as some people want to make it.

To be honest i like my massive fire hazard collection of consoles. Even though i have emulators on my xbox i still have my, Nes 2, Snes, Genesis1, Genesis 2, Pong hooked up in addition to all my other, un-emulated systems. There's nothing like playing a game on it's original system. One big problem with backwards comapatblity is that if the controller changes then the feel of the game can change and makes the experience different and possibly worse. I still use my GBA SP for playing GBA games because i don't like how the controls layout on the DS.

Jasoco
04-13-2005, 06:36 PM
I wouldn't trade the system in, I'd just retire it.

For instance, if the Revolution plays Cube games, or the Xbox 2 plays Xbox 1 games or the PS3 plays PS2 and PS1 games, I'd retire the older one.

SuperNES
04-13-2005, 06:58 PM
Hells no!
i don't really care if something is backwards compatible or not, i'll buy it anyways. if it plays old games, great. if it doesn't, oh well. that's not the point anyways. the point of a new console is to play new games, and people get all mad when a system won't play old games. *coughnintendocough* i'm not selling my xbox, i;m not selling any of my old systems either. sure, the Xbox 360 will probably be great, but the whole point of being a collector is collecting. which means not just throwing out old stuff just because it's old. besides, my 'box has served me for almost 4 years, why stop now?

Slate
04-13-2005, 08:02 PM
I don't sell my old consoles. What if there was a game that i never get tired of, And then it's incompatible with the newer consoles. Then i'm in a jam.

(Actually the only game related item i ever sold currently is Road trip for the PS2)


This whole backwards thing seems more the parents than anyone else.
"Well, the new thing's out....won't be needing THIS old thing anymore."
*tosses out 7 month old slimline PS2*

Just sad.. Unless I'M rescuing it from the trash. :D LOL

atomicthumbs
04-13-2005, 10:52 PM
I could really care less if a system is backwards compatible (except for when it comes to handhelds).

Like the PS3 for example. The Playstation, PSone, and PS2 are, well, just so damn PRETTY!!! I could never give them up.

XxMe2NiKxX
04-13-2005, 10:57 PM
Nevair.

Crush Crawfish
04-13-2005, 11:01 PM
Nope, I never sell systems. If the new system's backwards compatible, I simply hook that one up, and put the previous incarnation away. Though it's only taking up space at this point, I just can't bring myself to get rid of it like that. Sentimental value, I guess.

CreamSoda
04-13-2005, 11:18 PM
No, I still keep my PSX around for playing PS1 games...

Not only does it save wear on my PS2, but there is just something I like about playing the original games on the intended system.

Kind of like I still like using the first GameBoy for playing the old GB games.

squidblatt
04-14-2005, 09:08 AM
I won't sell my old systems, but I consider backwards compatibility to be very important.

As I get older, I place a higher premium on space and order, and a tangle of wires and hardware clutter is an eyesore. Since I don't mind playing old games, the ability to consolidate multiple systems into one is a great benefit to me.

Perhaps most importantly, backwards compatibility helps to protect my investment in all the games I've acquired. My Xbox had two major repairs while it was under warranty, and is still not working well. Systems just don't seem to be made to last, but backwards compatibility at least assures me that I can play my games for another five years or so.

CasualCoreGamer
04-14-2005, 09:16 AM
I'm generally not all that crazy for backwards compatability since that means even more wear & tear on the console, especially on disc-based systems of recent date. The only cases where I utilize it (so far) is a Super GameBoy for SNES and a PowerBase Converter for Genny (it was free). I'd take a TriForce for N64 just for the hell of it, as well.

atomicthumbs
04-14-2005, 09:52 AM
No, I still keep my PSX around for playing PS1 games...

Not only does it save wear on my PS2, but there is just something I like about playing the original games on the intended system.


The startup screen for example. I just love the SCEA logo and sounds! Hmmm... Maybe I could find those sounds and make it the startup sound on my computer.

NintendoMan
04-14-2005, 10:24 AM
HELL NO. Keep those old systems for life. Or until they break down, then you go get another one!