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maxlords
04-13-2005, 09:17 PM
Here’s a game I think everyone missed for this week. Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator for the PC is an awesome little game that snuck onto shelves back around 1999. Published by Interplay and made by Valkyrie Studios, Septerra Core is a rather polished real-time RPG that was never ported to any other platform. In fact, even when it was released, Septerra Core was virtually ignored by well…everyone. PC RPGs have always had a cult following, games like Ultima being the exception rather than the rule. Just as Fallout was missed by many and loved by diehards, Septerra Core escaped the notice of console gamers everywhere.

So what is it you ask? Well, Septerra Core is the story of a strange world consisting of seven distinct “shells”. Each shell rotates around a central core. Imagine if you will that inside the earth’s crust there was another set of continents, and between them, there was nothing but empty air. And below that next set is another and so on, all the way to the core. That’s what Septerra Core is like. Each level of the planet is settled by a different class of people. As the game starts out, you play Maya, a girl from Shell 2, which is a destitute lower class shell that lives off the scraps that fall from above from the other shells. The entire game is done in spoken dialogue, a rarity at the time, and the story is extremely elaborate. As the game progresses, you gain a party just like a console RPG and begin your adventure from Shell to Shell across the world of Septerra Core.

The battle system is kind of neat, and vaguely reminiscent of the attack bars from Final Fantasy III (VI for purists) for the SNES. Your characters and the enemies both charge power and once it reaches a certain point, can perform an attack. If you let your power continue to build though, you can also do stronger attacks, which are often the only way to seriously damage opponents. Both your characters and the enemies use guns as well as melee weapons, and conveniently, the guns are semi-organic and grow bullets, eliminating the need to purchase them. Handy, huh? Different weapons are more effective against certain enemies, as you might expect, and many of the other standards of RPGs hold as well, such as equipment menus, experience, and magic points, called “Core Energy”. Battling is very well streamlined and easy to pick up, and characters will abruptly jump directly into battles right from a story screen, with almost no load time.

Exploring towns is also pretty standard. Talking to townsfolk and other NPCs (non-player characters for those of you who don’t know) advances the storyline. If you use different characters to talk to people, most of them have different things to say as well. Often, people will only say important things to the right character, so pay attention! Ultimately, this is a great sci-fi RPG epic that virtually everyone missed. A genre that’s been very much ignored, the sci-fi RPG is very well done here by Valkyrie Studios, and sadly, never really got the attention it deserved. This is a game that honestly could have been the next Phantasy Star series if anyone had bothered to notice it, as it just oozes personality. Sadly it slipped almost directly into obscurity. I personally bought it when it came out, but I’ve only seen a handful of used copies in the wild ever. On eBay, you can buy a brand new copy of the game for about $3 + shipping. Be aware that there were two printings of the game, a big box version when it first came out, and a twin-pack bargain version that was double-packed with Shogo Mobile Armor Division and sold for $10. Most of the ones on eBay are the double-pack bargain version, but hey, the game still kicks ass. For under $5 + shipping, if you have a PC, go check it out!

Just so you know, I included pictures of the covers of both versions. That’s why there’s two cover pics!

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Jorpho
04-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Yup, I have a legal copy of this game currently sitting at the bottom of my rack of "Play These Someday!" games, right below Thief I, Get Medieval, and No One Lives Forever. (I picked it up used at EB two years ago for about five bucks.)

Based on your rousing recommendation, I think I shall move it up the queue. I hope it does not squabble with modern hardware. The Patches Scroll reports that there is a 1.02 patch available.

maxlords
04-13-2005, 09:43 PM
Well, the complete install IS a whopping 593 megs for the WHOLE game, complete install, and it requires Direct X 4 I think. I just reinstalled it to check and it seems to work fine on Windows XP.

Oh yeah, and Get Medieval is an awesome concept but a shitty game due to REALLY heinous control issues and the lack of configurable controls.

And Thief: The Dark Project for PC (and Thief II: The Metal Age) is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY good and you simply MUST play it. It'll probably be featured here one of these days.

Gapporin
04-13-2005, 10:42 PM
Here’s a game I think everyone missed for this week.

Not me! :D

My brother actually bought this game for his computer when it came out. Great game, and probably the only console-style RPG ever developed exclusively for the PC. His only complaint is that he didn't pick up the double pack version of it with Shogo (he's still looking for Shogo, I believe).

Off-topic-ish, some of those double packs are pretty good. I myself picked up the SimCity 2000/Streets Of SimCity combo for a mere 10 bones. Streets Of SimCity is actually a decent racer, which I don't think many people know about...hey, there's an idea...

rayearthknight
04-13-2005, 10:58 PM
True, and the game can still be found for 9.97 as a a dual-disc case with Shogo-an interesting FPS that used an earlier version of the Monolith engine....sadly, the on-line multiplayer is almost non-existant.

There is a patch available from Monolith's website that helps with some of the games glitches that occur on faster computers.

Definately a sleeper, but the anime-like feel and the interesting storyline--that combines Final Fantasy-esque with religion--not to mention the subtle humor make it one to look for.

I'd also say that everyone should get a copy of "The Curse of Monkey Island"

Crush Crawfish
04-13-2005, 10:58 PM
I'm really, really not a PC gamer, but this game looks pretty damned cool. I'll have to keep an eye out for it, especially since It's an RPG....I do love my RPG's! :D

maxlords
04-13-2005, 11:12 PM
Great game, and probably the only console-style RPG ever developed exclusively for the PC.

I think that it is. I can't say that I've EVER seen another console style RPG like this one for the PC. And Shogo is decent, but not nearly as good as Septerra Core :) I might even have a spare copy of Shogo lying around...bought a stack of em brand new for $.25 each a while back...

calthaer
04-13-2005, 11:38 PM
Hmm...this game got pretty low - or at least average - marks back in the day. I remember seeing it on shelves, but had read too many bad things about it. I remember reading some game design / business book once that really panned it, too...wasn't Crawford's "Art of," but something else. Can't remember the title - but the guy knew what he was talking about otherwise, and I'd assumed he had justly panned this one, too.

Maybe I'll give it a second glance and pick it up somewhere.

-hellvin-
04-13-2005, 11:56 PM
I remember reading about this game when it came out. It did get mediocre things said about it but it still looked cool and I think I may end up checking it out. I love PC RPGS. One of these days we gotta get Arcanum up for the Sleeper of the Week. Pretty damn good RPG although horribly unbalanced. It's all about Magic in that game.

Jorpho
04-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Great game, and probably the only console-style RPG ever developed exclusively for the PC.

I think that it is. I can't say that I've EVER seen another console style RPG like this one for the PC.

Anachronox?


And Shogo is decent, but not nearly as good as Septerra Core :) I might even have a spare copy of Shogo lying around...bought a stack of em brand new for $.25 each a while back...

So Shogo is an FPS? I thought it was another mecha strategy game. Or maybe I keep getting it confused with another game named Shogun that appeared in the double packs.

By the way, looks like the game was rereleased not so long ago, with yet another new box art. Definitely not an eBay price, though:
http://www.cdaccess.com/html/quick/septerrapr.htm

-hellvin-
04-14-2005, 01:15 AM
Great game, and probably the only console-style RPG ever developed exclusively for the PC.

I think that it is. I can't say that I've EVER seen another console style RPG like this one for the PC.

Anachronox?


And Shogo is decent, but not nearly as good as Septerra Core :) I might even have a spare copy of Shogo lying around...bought a stack of em brand new for $.25 each a while back...

So Shogo is an FPS? I thought it was another mecha strategy game. Or maybe I keep getting it confused with another game named Shogun that appeared in the double packs.

By the way, looks like the game was rereleased not so long ago, with yet another new box art. Definitely not an eBay price, though:
http://www.cdaccess.com/html/quick/septerrapr.htm

I remember when I bought Blood II: The Chosen, Shogo was one of the demos that came with it. It was really cool, it was mostly a mech based FPS and I remember a lot of explosions and death. I believe there was also a level where you had to get out of your mech and go on foot through some office building. So it's pretty much a mech/fps hybrid. Worth checking out.

Dahne
04-14-2005, 01:49 AM
I remember vaguely hearing about this game ages ago. Looks very very interesting. I'll have to pick it up sometime.

The organic gun thing is an awesome idea. Nicely creative way of solving the problem of having to find bullets.

SoulBlazer
04-14-2005, 03:25 AM
Heh, I thought I was the only person who liked this game. :P

I gotta agree with Maxlords on it. I picked up the double game edition at Wal-Mart for $10 a couple years ago and once I got used to the game I enjoyed it. Normaly I hate PC RPG's, being more of a console nut when it comes to role playing games, but there are some exceptions -- the Fallout games, the Elder Scroll games such as Morrowind, Planescape: Torment, and this game.

And if you want to pick it up REALLY CHEAP, just snag a used copy here at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-2426659-9363013

Really, can you knock those prices? :D

Xantan the Foul
04-14-2005, 08:44 AM
I got this game bundled with something for $9. I still haven't played it because I have trouble getting into PC gaming for some reason. Not really sure why, though I guess if I could play all the games on a console style controller, it'd be easier for me.

VACRMH
04-14-2005, 09:06 AM
Wow, that actually looks pretty interesting.

*adds to the list of "If I find it cheap i'll make sure to buy it" games*

:)

I know some people said it got bad reviews, what exactly are the low points of the game?

Xantan the Foul
04-14-2005, 09:33 AM
I think people were just expecting a PC style game, but it has a definite console feel to it.

VACRMH
04-14-2005, 11:57 AM
I think people were just expecting a PC style game, but it has a definite console feel to it.

Well then hell, that moves me another step to buying the game.

slip81
04-14-2005, 01:29 PM
Looks like a pretty cool game.

I found one on ebay for $3.99 and I think I'm gonna get it, I need more PC RPGs in my life :)

NeoZeedeater
04-14-2005, 01:52 PM
This game was interesting in that it felt like a Western/Japanese hybrid but I didn't feel like playing past the demo.

xaer0knight
04-16-2005, 12:19 PM
man picked this game up about 2-3 years ago... Fun as hell, Next to Sanitarium it is one of my favorite PC games. After 2/3 years i still havent beat it yet, one day i just get the urge to play it, and play it for 5 straight hrs and thats it for a while. Walmart had copies for 4.77 last i looked in my local store. I would recommend picking it up.

geelw
04-17-2005, 01:31 AM
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax. use a control pad for get medieval, durn-blastit LOL - you'll have more fun that with a keyboard. i dug mine up this week while moving some stuff, and it runs fine with my ancient gravis snes-style pad.

as for septerra, i always wanted to try it, despite the bad scores i saw for it- now that it's cheap, i can pick it up.
heh- how was blaze and blade, btw?

g.

SoulBlazer
04-17-2005, 02:11 AM
Well, like I said, Amazon is selling used copies for three cents. ;) With shipping you can have it for about $3.75-4. And this is the double pack with both games. Is'nt that cheap enough? :D

Jorpho
04-17-2005, 10:49 AM
heh- how was blaze and blade, btw?

I've been told that one was spectacularly awful.

maxlords
04-17-2005, 10:57 AM
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax. use a control pad for get medieval, durn-blastit LOL - you'll have more fun that with a keyboard. i dug mine up this week while moving some stuff, and it runs fine with my ancient gravis snes-style pad.

as for septerra, i always wanted to try it, despite the bad scores i saw for it- now that it's cheap, i can pick it up.
heh- how was blaze and blade, btw?

g.

Actually, I don't have a controller hooked up. I have a sidewinder pad here somewhere...the keyboard controls are GOD AWFUL for that game tho.

As for Blaze & Blade....no surprise, haven't gotten to it yet. :D It's in my stack of "to play" PC stuff...but I'm nowhere near it since I got Half-Life 2...but I want to play it since it's the only translation.

Hell, I've got Blaze & Blade, Grim Fandango, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, Sam & Max Hit the Road, Hitman Code 47, and like 3 other games in my "to play" stack. And that's just for PC. Let's not even MENTION console...

geelw
04-18-2005, 09:24 AM
yeah, well- welcome to the club, lol. you COULD always drop hl2 and wait 'til the xbox version ships this summer- i'm thrilled and curious as to how the hell they did it, and why the fark we need a damn xbox 2/360/next/whatever if this sort of thing can be done. see also doom 3, lol...

KJN
04-18-2005, 09:49 AM
I got this game a few months ago as I always wanted to play it. However it's still on my pile of unplayed games as I haven't gotten around to actually install it yet.

Oh and Get Medieval is a great, overlooked, game (and a good candidate for a sleeper of the week thread).

Jorpho
08-04-2006, 06:34 PM
(Well, since this on the first page of the Classic Computing topics, it's not really bumping, now is it? :D )

I actually did get around to playing this a while back. I was rather severely rankled by the fact that, apparently due to some incompatibility with modern NVidia cards (or maybe their drivers), the sound would skip incessantly to the point that the game was not playable. I discovered that the problem could be remedied by playing it in a window.

But then I had to reformat my hard drive, and even though I now have a much nicer ATI card, I haven't gotten around to giving it another whirl. At this point I'm thinking it would be best to start over, and starting over something like that is also rather irritating. I'd gotten as far as the subway escape bit (and was further irritated by the fact that there was no clear indication of which way to go).

Anyway, if you haven't played this game yet, it was rereleased quite recently and might be easier to find than it once was.
http://www.chipsbits.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SHOG%2EIR