Is the smaller ps2 gonna be the next top loader?

[gruzniak]

Think about it, a different version of the same system that came out fairly late in the systems life, and even now they are kinda hard to come by, so do you think in 15 years people will view the smaller ps2's the way we look at NES top loaders now?

[anagrama]

No.

[Kroogah]

Not really, more like the way we view the SNES 2. Or, depending on how long they're sold, the way we view the PSOne.

The reason the top loader is so highly desired and nets such high prices on Ebay is because it solves the blinking problem.

[DeputyMoniker]

I seriously doubt it. I don't think the "collector items" will be so obvious. Too many people "collect" now (I think "save" is a better word) and THESE days there are always 100k people out there that think something will be valuable some day.
Thats just my opinion but only time will tell.

[Kejoriv]

No smaller PS2 is much more popular than the top loader

[James]

Are you kidding me these things probably won't work in 5 years times because the elastic band or something else in the drive will seize up and need to be replaced, besides PSTwo's are going to be sold for another 5 years anyways so there will be like 10-20 million of them by the time they would be old enough to be considered rare. And on top of that the PS3 will play all of your PS2 games and hopefully all PS1 games as well.


Not really, more like the way we view the SNES 2. Or, depending on how long they're sold, the way we view the PSOne.

The reason the top loader is so highly desired and nets such high prices on Ebay is because it solves the blinking problem.

Most people don't know this but the so called blinking problem is caused by a security lockout chip located inside each and every NES console worldwide and every cartridge as well. This system works by having to 2 sides (being the chip in the console and the chip in the cartridge) communicate to make a solid connection, once this connection is broken the NES automatically resets itself over and over again until the pins are realigned and the system is reset. It’s actually a great anti-piracy device and made Nintendo several boatloads of money as well as loosing Tengen a lot as well. This technology does not exist in Japan and nor does it exist in the NES 2 Top Loader. There are several reasons the NES 2 is so sought after. The blinking problem as you mentioned although you can fix that by cutting pin 4 from the left side of the pin header, although I don't recommend anyone do this as you may fry your NES. The top loader grabs the cartridge quite tightly so it won't slide around the way it does with the original NES so your game won't freeze as easily. It’s much smaller and though a bit ugly is quite well designed and there rare. The AV Famicom’s in Japan look exactly the same and are hard to easily tell apart without close examination, they are not so rare and go for under $70 USD.

[Kroogah]

Not really, more like the way we view the SNES 2. Or, depending on how long they're sold, the way we view the PSOne.

The reason the top loader is so highly desired and nets such high prices on Ebay is because it solves the blinking problem.

Most people don't know this but the so called blinking problem is caused by a security lockout chip located inside each and every NES console worldwide and every cartridge as well. This system works by having to 2 sides (being the chip in the console and the chip in the cartridge) communicate to make a solid connection, once this connection is broken the NES automatically resets itself over and over again until the pins are realigned and the system is reset. It’s actually a great anti-piracy device and made Nintendo several boatloads of money as well as loosing Tengen a lot as well. This technology does not exist in Japan and nor does it exist in the NES 2 Top Loader. There are several reasons the NES 2 is so sought after. The blinking problem as you mentioned although you can fix that by cutting pin 4 from the left side of the pin header, although I don't recommend anyone do this as you may fry your NES. The top loader grabs the cartridge quite tightly so it won't slide around the way it does with the original NES so your game won't freeze as easily. It’s much smaller and though a bit ugly is quite well designed and there rare. The AV Famicom’s in Japan look exactly the same and are hard to easily tell apart without close examination, they are not so rare and go for under $70 USD.

Yeah. I know that. Most people here know that. Most people driving up the prices of top loaders on Ebay don't.

[Griking]

Is the PS-One considered a collectable?

[James]

Yeah. I know that. Most people here know that. Most people driving up the prices of top loaders on Ebay don't.

If you can even find a NES 2 in there without looking through a thousand and one auctions. You type NES and top loader and bang, you are presented with a bizillion different Famiclones. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not touching one of those with a 10 ft. pole. They look decent and all but if you really want to play NES and Famicom games then you should pick up a fully refurbished NES model 1 or an AV Famicom and get a family converter so you can play in both regions and this way you’re guaranteed your system will support all mappers and play all games. I don't think I could force myself to buy a NES that isn't compatible with Castlevania 3, plus there a bit pricey.

Oh and nice Avatar Captain Yashiro, I always did like the Bulls.

[Cmosfm]

Is the PS-One considered a collectable?

Nope, it's highly available and isn't worth any more than a regular PSone. Honestly, a completely working regular PSone is probably worth more than the new PSone.

[Damion]

I've also noticed that the LCD screen has become much cheaper for it. I Belive I saw one on sale for about 50 bucks new.

[GarrettCRW]

The AV Famicom’s in Japan look exactly the same and are hard to easily tell apart without close examination, they are not so rare and go for under $70 USD.

The AV Famicom lacks one supremely obviously design element of the NES top loader: the hump where the cartridge slot is (omitted because the AV Famicom needs to play nice with the Disk System's RAM adaptor). Quite the big difference, really.

Also, AV Famicoms tend to run around $100 now, seeing as how they've been out of production for a year and a half now (the point when Nintendo finally dropped support of the Famicom). Since these are the best systems for all regions (save a number of the cruddy unlicensed NES games), these will become the true collector's items, especially once TVs start losing their coax/RF connections.

[I Am Humanoid]

Most people don't know this...It’s actually a great anti-piracy device...

Arrgggh!

That statement shivers me timbers!

Arrgggh!

[Big Papa Husker]

Damn... I bought up 3 PSOne combos at TRU when they were only clearance for $40, hoping they would be the next top loader.... Hopefully I am not wrong.

[klausien]

The only waythe small form PS2 could be as collectible as the Top Loader is if it is found to have a significantly longer life span than the old PS2.

[maxlords]

The AV Famicom’s in Japan look exactly the same and are hard to easily tell apart without close examination...

Sorry. They're ridiculously easy to tell apart. The cases aren't the same at all. The AV Famicom has a flat case, while the US toploader has a rounded one. THey look VERY different. Similar style and color scheme, and size, but different designed case.