Changes to Buy/Sell and Ebay forums for auctions

[Drexel923]

Starting now, Ebay Insanity has been changed to Everthing Ebay.

It will now be the location for all Ebay related threads, whether it be a member selling something or just a crazy auction. Any auction thread posted in Buying and Selling from this point on will be redirected to the new Ebay forum.

[Drexel923]

Forgot to mention...we will also be moving all the current Ebay threads we find from B/S to the new Ebay forum. So if you don't see your thread anymore, check the new Ebay forum before freaking out ;)

[The Brown Eye]

What if I were to sell something in B & S, only it didn't sell, and now I list it on Ebay. Do I make a new thread in Everything Ebay?

Just want to be clear. :)

[Drexel923]

What if I were to sell something in B & S, only it didn't sell, and now I list it on Ebay. Do I make a new thread in Everything Ebay?

Just want to be clear. :)

Yes, that will be fine.

[boatofcar]

I just want to say that I think this is a great move. Too often I've had an auction I was afraid to post in the eBay forum because of its misleading title. Thanks Drexel!

[tholly]

what if we have a for sale thread in the b/s forum but at the same time also have ebay sales...can we list the ebay link in our current sales thread or must they be seperated into 2 seperate posts

[Drexel923]

what if we have a for sale thread in the b/s forum but at the same time also have ebay sales...can we list the ebay link in our current sales thread or must they be seperated into 2 seperate posts

You might as well have 2 seperate threads. It's easier to keep things organized that way (at least on my end ;) )

[Cmosfm]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

[Jibbajaba]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

I agree completely. I think this system makes a lot more sense. Threads labbeled as "FS-" instead of "FA-" annoy the heck out of me.

Thanks, Drexel.

Chris

[Kamino]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

I agree completely. I think this system makes a lot more sense. Threads labbeled as "FS-" instead of "FA-" annoy the heck out of me.

Thanks, Drexel.

Chris
I tip my hat to you, Drexel.
This is a good call. I too have tired of "OMG IVE GOT SHIT FOR SALE" threads, and its all on ebay. Blimey. I am perfectly capable of searching Ebay.....THANKS!
+1

[Scavenger4]

Will the restriction of 1 thread on the front page still be enforced in the new Ebay forum?

I try to list things on a weekly basis but I also like to list the stuff I find on ebay thats neat for others to see for themselves or just to peruse. So will this change effect me being able to keep my "finds of the day" thread as well as a "check out my auctions because I like the exposure and traffic!!" on the front page at the same time?

[Drexel923]

Will the restriction of 1 thread on the front page still be enforced in the new Ebay forum?

I try to list things on a weekly basis but I also like to list the stuff I find on ebay thats neat for others to see for themselves or just to peruse. So will this change effect me being able to keep my "finds of the day" thread as well as a "check out my auctions because I like the exposure and traffic!!" on the front page at the same time?

If your selling stuff, we'd like to keep it the same way of combining your posts into one. But if at the same time you find a crazy auction, or just something you'd think others might be interested in, that you are not selling, feel free to make a second thread.

Also, we would still ask that the bumping rules from this forum carry over on your personal auction threads. Maybe tomorrow I'll get around to making a Everything Ebay rules sticky.

[Drexel923]

Maybe tomorrow I'll get around to making a Everything Ebay rules sticky.

Ok...why wait.

The rules have been posted:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58694

[Griking]

Starting now, Ebay Insanity has been changed to Everthing Ebay.

It will now be the location for all Ebay related threads, whether it be a member selling something or just a crazy auction. Any auction thread posted in Buying and Selling from this point on will be redirected to the new Ebay forum.

No offense but this sucks!

In the past if I wanted to purchase or sell something I knew to look in the buying / selling forum. Made enough sense to me.

If I wanted to talk and read about rediculous eBay auctions, eBay scammers, get a heads up on rare or unique things on Ebay and other random eBay stuff I'd look in the eBay Insanity forum. Now I guess I'll have to filter through pages upon pages of for sale spam. Aren't ads for people's ligitimate auctions more on topic in the buying selling forun than in the eBay INSANITY forum?

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)

Edit: Christ, there's already a full page of garbage scrolling the board there since the last time I visited. :angry:

[Stark]

I like the change and it makes more sense to put all Ebay topics into a single forum.

[-hellvin-]

I do think throwing in auctions makes it a little cluttered. Is there any way to add a sub category for auction posting only?

[Mayhem]

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)

We can't please everyone sadly. People were complaining about the eBay selling threads being in B/S. What are we to do? Having them in the eBay forum makes more sense regardless of their content. If they are in someway to do with eBay, then in they go there.

[yok-dfa]

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)
I'll join the minority. I also loved the Ebay insanity forum...



We can't please everyone sadly. People were complaining about the eBay selling threads being in B/S. What are we to do? Having them in the eBay forum makes more sense regardless of their content. If they are in someway to do with eBay, then in they go there.
The previous arrangement made more sense to me. Ebay selling threads belong to the Buying/Selling thread. You can always make an [Ebay] tag mandatory in the subject line when someone posts his ebay auctions. Or is there someway to have 3 forums? Buying/Selling, Selling on Ebay and Ebay insanity?

[anagrama]

Wouldn't it be lovely if something here changed and everyone agreed it was a Good Thing? Imagine that!

[digitalpress]

Wouldn't it be lovely if something here changed and everyone agreed it was a Good Thing? Imagine that!

C'mon, we all KNOW that will never happen! Actually, I appreciate the honesty of our members, and the willingness to "join the minority". Unlike some of the other forum communities I've visited, there are no Lemmings here. Everyone's got a voice, and everyone's voice is considered.

This particular change wasn't just a whim, however. It's the result of many conversations over a fair amount of time. The B&S forum is very popular here, and this change maximizes the selling and shopping experience, and hopefully even encourages people to try to sell here as opposed to starting with eBay. Let's see how it works over some time before knocking the change.

[Flack]

I'll just add that for every one post I've seen here not happy about the change, I've received 20 PM's over the past year begging for this change.

[syd]

I think this is a great change personally. Better than clicking a link to an article saying something is "for sale" and it ends up being an auction. Besides 99% of the time auctions sell for a hell of a lot more than regular sales. So a penny-less person like me would stay away from the auctions! :)

Thanks a lot for the change!

[Griking]

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)

We can't please everyone sadly. People were complaining about the eBay selling threads being in B/S. What are we to do?

You really didn't resolve anything, all that was done was that the auctions were taken from one group who didn't want to deal with them and given to another group that doesn't want to deal with them.


If they are in someway to do with eBay, then in they go there.

One can just as easily say that auction listings are another way of buying and selling things and therefore belong in the Buying / Selling forum.



The B&S forum is very popular here, and this change maximizes the selling and shopping experience, and hopefully even encourages people to try to sell here as opposed to starting with eBay. Let's see how it works over some time before knocking the change.

If you really want to encourage people to sell locally then just get rid of auction listings altogether. As it is it seems that nobody really wants to have to deal with them. Besides, I'm sure that most people here know how to search on eBay if they're looking for something. And if they don't we already have the eBay Assistant here on DP.

[jgenotte]

Starting now, Ebay Insanity has been changed to Everthing Ebay.

It will now be the location for all Ebay related threads, whether it be a member selling something or just a crazy auction. Any auction thread posted in Buying and Selling from this point on will be redirected to the new Ebay forum.

No offense but this sucks!

In the past if I wanted to purchase or sell something I knew to look in the buying / selling forum. Made enough sense to me.

If I wanted to talk and read about rediculous eBay auctions, eBay scammers, get a heads up on rare or unique things on Ebay and other random eBay stuff I'd look in the eBay Insanity forum. Now I guess I'll have to filter through pages upon pages of for sale spam. Aren't ads for people's ligitimate auctions more on topic in the buying selling forun than in the eBay INSANITY forum?

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)

Edit: Christ, there's already a full page of garbage scrolling the board there since the last time I visited. :angry:

I agree with you, but I dont think there is any need for the anger.

-james

[jgenotte]

Sh%t: Double post. This seems to be a lot easier to do with the newer boards. Still my fault though for refreshing the "You earned # meseta for that post" page.

Tip for you youngins out there: If you missesd how many meseta you earned, too bad...dont refresh the page! :P

-james

[Scavenger4]

eBay insanity was my favorite forum and I thought it was just fine the way it was but unfortunately I guess I'm in the minority. :angry: (or am I, anyone else agree?)

We can't please everyone sadly. People were complaining about the eBay selling threads being in B/S. What are we to do?

You really didn't resolve anything, all that was done was that the auctions were taken from one group who didn't want to deal with them and given to another group that doesn't want to deal with them.


If they are in someway to do with eBay, then in they go there.

One can just as easily say that auction listings are another way of buying and selling things and therefore belong in the Buying / Selling forum.



The B&S forum is very popular here, and this change maximizes the selling and shopping experience, and hopefully even encourages people to try to sell here as opposed to starting with eBay. Let's see how it works over some time before knocking the change.

If you really want to encourage people to sell locally then just get rid of auction listings altogether. As it is it seems that nobody really wants to have to deal with them. Besides, I'm sure that most people here know how to search on eBay if they're looking for something. And if they don't we already have the eBay Assistant here on DP.

I personally like the auction listings being able to be advertised, not just for myself and my sales but because I like to see what other items people have for sale. Usually I'm not fast enough to snatch up the cheap BINs that people advertise but I would have bought it if I was faster (just like I would have boughten the item if it was for sale in just a normal post). So completely getting rid of them just opens up an arguement for why we should allow them =\.

[Avatard]

There are ups and downs to both sides. I would like it however if you made a rule that all seller auctions posted in the EBay section would have the "EBay" or some other prefix. For Example

"EBay: Selling my toenails" or "Selling: My belly lint"

and everyone else be

"crazy price on toenails"

Then you could easily filter through within the topic. Just a suggestion that might make everyone who liked the old Insanity forum pleased.

[Mayhem]

Indeed, we've already made that suggestion in the forum FAQ :)

[captain nintendo]

I think this was a good idea. Now maybe some of our items for sale or trade will stay on the front page a bit longer. :)

Seriously .... the front page is like always getting bumped :/ Which is good because you know there is traffic here at DP , but bad because somebody was pimping an auction or had 2 or 3 threads opened for seperate items :angry:

[end rant]

[Keir]

Excellent! I think this is great. It's been suggested several times that people use "FA" or "ebay" in their subject lines in the Buying and Selling forum, but most people have just ignored it.

[Daft Punk]

I am all for this movement! :D

[Bluteg]

Yes this solves a growing problem with all the 1-5 post count members signing up just to advertise their latest ebay auctions. This would not be as much of a problem if they didn't use "FS: many games for all consoles" as a title and it be a bunch of ebay links. It's very annoying and hinders those of us who have legitimate buisness in the B&S forum.

[y-bot]

I'm OK with this change. I wish people would just use FS and FA correctly but I guess that is not going to happen. Something has to change with the buying & selling forum. It is way out of hand. Too many of the same people selling the same junk and bumping the topic so many times that is always on the first page.
y-bot

[drwily008]

Hey Drexel,

What about possibly just making a separate forum or a stickied topic for members auctions? That way when someone is selling something they would have the (for lack of a better word advertisment) to help them sell their video game related stuff to fellow collectors. It would also allow members who are looking to purchase something the ability to have all sales in one designated spot.

Personally I think that would be better than having Magical Chase and Quadrun next to a thread advertising a huge booger or some such crazy thing. Just my two cents, but keep up the good work man. - Ken

[Damion]

I'll just add that for every one post I've seen here not happy about the change, I've received 20 PM's over the past year begging for this change.

And I'll Happliy admit I was one of them.

As it was stated before, If I wanted to shop on Ebay I would be at ebay.

I don't think it would have been as big a deal if it hadn't been somewhat abused with seemingly intentional miss labeling.

If the labeling had been adhered to I wouldn't have complaned.

Course I'm not saying everyone was doing that. But when it did it was nothing but a complete annoyance.

[Griking]

Hey Drexel,
What about possibly just making a separate forum...

This seems like the solution that makes the most sense and would make the most people happy. What are the issues that keep this from being a reality?

Every response FOR this change that I've read so far seem to be from people from the b&S forum who are glad to be rid of the auction listings. I don't think I've seem one eBay Insanity person say that they were glad to have all of the auctions dumped in their forum. Again, you haven't solved a problem you've just made it someone else's problem.

[digitalpress]

Hey Drexel,
What about possibly just making a separate forum...

This seems like the solution that makes the most sense and would make the most people happy. What are the issues that keep this from being a reality?

I don't want another forum. If you've been here for awhile, you know my stance on this. If not, you can probably find it in a search.


Every response FOR this change that I've read so far seem to be from people from the b&S forum who are glad to be rid of the auction listings. I don't think I've seem one eBay Insanity person say that they were glad to have all of the auctions dumped in their forum. Again, you haven't solved a problem you've just made it someone else's problem.

"B&S people"? "eBay Insanity people"? WTF?

The choices were to drop the eBay Insanity part of the forum altogether, or to put all eBay related threads into a single place. This seemed like the one that would ruffle the least feathers. Sorry if you're ruffled but as I said before let's give it a little time and see how it works out before killing the idea.

[esquire]

Hey Drexel,

What about possibly just making a separate forum or a stickied topic for members auctions? That way when someone is selling something they would have the (for lack of a better word advertisment) to help them sell their video game related stuff to fellow collectors. It would also allow members who are looking to purchase something the ability to have all sales in one designated spot.

Personally I think that would be better than having Magical Chase and Quadrun next to a thread advertising a huge booger or some such crazy thing. Just my two cents, but keep up the good work man. - Ken

I agree. Contrary to some of the posts here, there are members who like to browse other members auctions. First, the items tend to be better taken care of. Second the sellers are for the most part more trustworthy than your typical ebay seller. Third, we tend to get better deals form each others auctions. I myself just recently posted a "FA: Various video games" in the B&S forum and sold several items to DP members such as DrWily and Hellvin.

As to those who were against those posts in the B&S forum to begin with, clearly they had an anti-Ebay bias, and perhaps for good reason. But why hurt the legitimate users who want to to post their auctions or browse other members auctions by drowning their posts with "OMG this isn't rare!" or "Another Crazy Golden Palace auction" Part of the reason for this move was to keep B&S posts fesh and not being pushed down by "FA" posts. But in turn you are doing the same thing to the "FA" posts by putting them with "ebay insanity" posts. I think you solved one problem by creating another. I would have liked to seen a separate thread for auctions. Perhaps you could make "All Things Ebay" a separate forum with subforums such as "Member Auctions", "Ebay Insanity" etc.

[Drexel923]

Hey Drexel,
What about possibly just making a separate forum...

This seems like the solution that makes the most sense and would make the most people happy. What are the issues that keep this from being a reality?

Every response FOR this change that I've read so far seem to be from people from the b&S forum who are glad to be rid of the auction listings. I don't think I've seem one eBay Insanity person say that they were glad to have all of the auctions dumped in their forum. Again, you haven't solved a problem you've just made it someone else's problem.

We are not interested in making a separate forum...we certainly don't need the extra work of jumping through 3 forums (in my case it would be 4). Also, whats the problem here. Beforehand the ebay threads cluttered up B/S...now they balance out the two forums, but you guys don't like wading through them period. Well you can't please everyone, and so far the majority don't have a problem with it.

We've already stickied Scavenger's "finds" thread with hopes to put those in one place and make things easier (we hope others will use that thread to post their own finds instead of posting new threads), but I don't think that will work with personal auctions. It's unfair to the sellers to box them up so they get barely any traffic.

Also here's another thing...this new forum can work, but it's up to you guys. During my time as a MOD, I've seen so many threads that are just pointless. We all like the crazy auctions here and there, but when we get fifty threads on re-sealing, or the bunch like "OMG SMB/DH for $10 @_@ ", it doesn't work either way. Just because something is outrageous doesn't mean it has to be posted.

If we are able to cut down on this kind of stuff, then there is no reason why everything won't work correctly. In addition I have also recommended that people use better subject titles. Is it that hard to put "My auction" or "Joke" in the subject. This will help you read what you want to read and not get sucked into threads you want to ignore.

And finally, we have expanded the posts shown on the front page from 50 to 100. This will keep posts alive longer without the need to really search for them.

[Bratwurst]

If the prolific nature of the FA threads in the B&S forum in the past was any indicator then the newly dubbed Everything Ebay forum has nothing to fear. Any giant cheeto, inflated bidding zaniness and sealed super mario's bras listings will be drowned out by the din of rabid sellers just dying to bring to your attention that they are auctioning a lot of games or RARE RARE bling. Without a doubt people will take advantage of the rule of 'one in B&S, one in EE'.

Personally I have never bought a game someone listed on ebay and then advertised about it here because I dislike jumping through hoops so someone can maximize their profits.

[ozyr]

This new rule works fine for me. I have always hated the ebay stuff in the FS section. I avoid ebay most of the time, and hate a post that doesn't say that it's ebay until I click on it. Just frustrating.

Thanks for the change!

[kainemaxwell]

Nice work, I'm for this cleanup of the B&S and eBay forums!

[Griking]

Nice work, I'm for this cleanup of the B&S and eBay forums!

You mind explaining how the eBay Insanity forum is "cleaned up" by this change?

[jonjandran]

I personally am all for this change.

I never even look at an Ebay link that someone posts in the B&S Forum. It ALWAYS sells for more than it is worth. And by that I mean it sells for more than the current average price that it is selling for on Ebay or in the DP Forums.

I go to the B&S Forum to find DEALS and to find hard to find items for a good price, or at least a chance to haggle for a good price. I don't go there to find OVERPRICED Ebay Items. And I don't consider Ebay Items , items that I can haggle the price on because I DETEST sellers who put itms on EBAY and then sell them outside of Ebay and close the auctions. :angry: This is a misuse of the Ebay system and well I won't get started on that. :angel:

Anyway. Thanks for the change guys...... Mucho kudos. :D

[leonk]

I also think this is a great move!

Seeing all the eBay posts in the buy and sell really degrated that forum. If I wanted to see eBay stuff, I'd go to eBay!

Thanks for the change!

[Griking]

Again, every response I've read so far that is for the chage is from someone who's glad to be rid of the auctions on the B&S forum. I've yet to read one response from saying that the eBay Insanity board is a better place because of the change.

But hey, whatever. I'll learn to live with the change I suppose since it seems its here to stay.

[Darth Vader]

Again, every response I've read so far that is for the chage is from someone who's glad to be rid of the auctions on the B&S forum. I've yet to read one response from saying that the eBay Insanity board is a better place because of the change.

But hey, whatever. I'll learn to live with the change I suppose since it seems its here to stay.

I really didn't see the old format as an issue, but I can see how some people feel this was a hinderance to the surfing. Here's my 2 cents on this change.

If all ebay auctions were going to be taken out of the B&S forums and into the ebay forum, the only way it would work is if the ebay insanity forum's format changed to the way it is now, to an everything ebay forum. I would agree with you if it was still considered the ebay insanity forum, but that's not the name of it anymore. The everything ebay forum is the best way to do this if you feel combining all ebay activities into one simple forum.

I really didn't think having the auctions mixed in with people's FS/FT was a big deal, I mean people were still trying to sell things and if they didn't label it as an auction, what's the big deal? If you don't want to bid on it or auctions don't interest you, well then don't bid or reply to their thread. I actually liked having the auctions mixed in with the regular B&S items because if it was an item I was interested in, I would either buy it or go after it on ebay regardless. If auctions aren't your thing, then just IGNORE them. My concern of moving the auctions away from the B&S is that the auctions can easily get lost in the shuffle and not get the same exposure as you would have before. I do believe that an everything ebay forum (instead of insanity) may give that same type of exposure, but its just gonna take time for everyone to adjust to the new setup. Basically its a big change and everyone knows, that people hate change, its just the way we are. :D

So my thoughts are, take it easy, have a drink and relax and lets see how this goes. Once everyone gets used to the few new wrinkles, I'm sure it won't be a big deal and if its not working out, it can always be adjusted and tweaked to be made better. :)

Danny

[DeputyMoniker]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

Sorry for the +1 but I agree.
The B/S forum will be more of a community trading area now. You know what I'd like to see? A seperate B/S forum where you have to be approved into it. Kinda like the pub. Maybe it's a stupid idea...I just thought it would be cool so if I want to hook the community up, I could offer it to the regulars only. (not that I'm a seasoned vet or anything)
Anyway, just a thought.

[Griking]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

Sorry for the +1 but I agree.
The B/S forum will be more of a community trading area now. You know what I'd like to see? A seperate B/S forum where you have to be approved into it. Kinda like the pub. Maybe it's a stupid idea...I just thought it would be cool so if I want to hook the community up, I could offer it to the regulars only. (not that I'm a seasoned vet or anything)
Anyway, just a thought.


Perhaps setting a minumum amount of meseta (like 100-200) to be able to post on the B&S and eBay forums would help. That way you weed out all of the people who come here just to advertise (spam) their products but never contribute anything to the forums.

[Amy Rose]

WOOHOO!!! Finally, no more misleading thread titles! This is great! I might actually start surfing the buy and sell forum again now that I have a chance of buying stuff straight off. (I hate the uncertainty of eBay, especially snipers, grrrr!)

Thanks DP! <3

[digitalpress]

Perhaps setting a minumum amount of meseta (like 100-200) to be able to post on the B&S and eBay forums would help. That way you weed out all of the people who come here just to advertise (spam) their products but never contribute anything to the forums.

That's not a bad idea, and I think it can be arranged using the current item system, of all things. I'll look into it but it may be awhile before I can actually get to it, my plate is rather full at the mo.

Thanks for the suggestion!

[tholly]

AMEN!

Thank you so very very much, this is something that has really been bugging me for a long time. I hate seeing the title "X Game For Sale" then a link for an eBay auction. Pisses me off.

Thanks a lot

Sorry for the +1 but I agree.
The B/S forum will be more of a community trading area now. You know what I'd like to see? A seperate B/S forum where you have to be approved into it. Kinda like the pub. Maybe it's a stupid idea...I just thought it would be cool so if I want to hook the community up, I could offer it to the regulars only. (not that I'm a seasoned vet or anything)
Anyway, just a thought.


Perhaps setting a minumum amount of meseta (like 100-200) to be able to post on the B&S and eBay forums would help. That way you weed out all of the people who come here just to advertise (spam) their products but never contribute anything to the forums.

but then, what happens to the regulars who just dont happen to have 200 meseta at that time....maybe someone just bought a bunch of stuff from the shop and then they want to see real life stuff on the boards, but cant because they cant get in

that wont really work too good

[Griking]

I don't know if its possible but i was thinking along the lines of innitially needing 100-200 to post on those forums but once you get access rights you wouldn't loose them again if you dropped below 100-200.

[GarrettCRW]

Perhaps what we need for the Everything Ebay forum are stickied topics for the more common Ebay Insanity topics, like resealed games and shill bidders.

[petewhitley]

I just want to chime in and say I love this new system and forum. Personally, I search eBay on my own and would always get a bit peeved to hop into the B&S forum and find 1/4 or more of the postings simply links to auctions. This way I can ignore them! Thanks.