View Full Version : anyone heard of Game Collector?
mark1bdi
04-20-2005, 06:41 PM
In my opinion, there are two distinct approaches to cataloging; Offline and Online. Me personally, I like offline lists (which is why my list here is so sparse). I just love to rearrange and classify and label things as I like them.
Anyway, I wondered what everybody else thought so included a screenshot.
ps. searched "game collector" in the forums and had about 11 pages of hits - so excuse me if somebody has raised this before...
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/mark1bdi-gc2.JPG
VACRMH
04-20-2005, 06:48 PM
Love it :)
It's the program I use to organize my games.
I'm sure i've mentioned it quite alot ;) So alot of those posts may be from me.
fishsandwich
04-20-2005, 06:56 PM
I tried the trial version, but I have a lot of imports. It couldn't match up a lot of the imports and even quite a few of the domestic games. It's great for newer stuff I think.
:D
fishsandwich
04-20-2005, 06:57 PM
I tried the trial version, but I have a lot of imports. It couldn't match up a lot of the imports and even quite a few of the domestic games. It's great for nere stuff I think.
:D
SKVermin
04-20-2005, 07:18 PM
I used to use Cart Commander for some time until I discovered Game Collector. I gave it a trial and got hooked. Been using it ever since. It's usually pretty good for auto-completing some of the info, but I really don't mind inputting the stuff by hand. Gets me more in touch with my collection. LOL I'd be lost without Game Collector.
FooFighter
04-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Game collector is awesome i love it. the best part is if you have something that you think should be added or changed just post it to the GC boards and they will VERY often implement it. They are the best.
Lady Jaye
04-20-2005, 08:59 PM
Looks like a pretty cool software, but I've yet to even try it because last I checked, there still wasn't a Mac version out (but one is announced, so it's only a matter of time).
Does it have the capability to pick one game at random, once you've put together your list? I'm looking for that function to help me pick a game to play (so I don't always give all my attention to the same games...).
VACRMH
04-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Does it have the capability to pick one game at random, once you've put together your list? I'm looking for that function to help me pick a game to play (so I don't always give all my attention to the same games...).
Yep!
Pretty much any area you're in, you can right click and select random.
Because I have it broken up by systems, first you'd get a random system, and then go in there and get a random game.
There's lots of different ways to view your collection too, even by thumbnails of the coverart :)
Pantechnicon
04-20-2005, 09:06 PM
Can it export data to a text file or better yet a spreadsheet? The only downside I see to this is the inability to share your lists and info with persons who don't also have the app. Otherwise it looks very nice.
VACRMH
04-20-2005, 09:08 PM
Can it export data to a text file or better yet a spreadsheet? The only downside I see to this is the inability to share your lists and info with persons who don't also have the app. Otherwise it looks very nice.
It can export to txt, html, xml and palm/pocket pcs :)
The HTML version can get pretty snazzy
FooFighter
04-20-2005, 09:09 PM
Looks like a pretty cool software, but I've yet to even try it because last I checked, there still wasn't a Mac version out (but one is announced, so it's only a matter of time).
Does it have the capability to pick one game at random, once you've put together your list? I'm looking for that function to help me pick a game to play (so I don't always give all my attention to the same games...).
Yep, and the coolest part is that it didn't have this feature when I first got it. A person on the boards suggested it and it was implemented.
Pantechnicon
04-20-2005, 09:21 PM
It can export to txt, html, xml and palm/pocket pcs :)
Palm, eh? Okay. I'll take a look...thanks :D
PrototypeFC3S
04-20-2005, 09:35 PM
$40.00 seems like a hefty price for something that just stores game info......, I think Ill just stick with the DP list and the IGN list.
slip81
04-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Looks like a cool app. I'm definately gonna check out their website. Since the company is collectorz.com maybe they'll also have something that catalogues DVDs and comics, which I really need.
VACRMH
04-20-2005, 10:18 PM
Looks like a cool app. I'm definately gonna check out their website. Since the company is collectorz.com maybe they'll also have something that catalogues DVDs and comics, which I really need.
Yep! I believe they do both of those, along with Music
THATinkjar
04-21-2005, 06:48 AM
I posted this in a different thread, but since the topic has been brought up again, I'll quickly go over what I said.
Basically, Game Collector is good - but for the people who believe the devil is in the detail, then I recommend a mod for a program called Ant Movie Catalog. The mod is in the forums of the AMC website under Scripts.
This is so unbelievably good. It trounces on GC. For the true collector, this is what you should be using. But there we are. Game Collector is still pretty good, I just thought it was slow, cumbersome and ugly.
Heard of it? Sadly yes.
They are great at stealing people's data. Just ask Moby Games and All Game Guide. (among other sites).
-Cav
AtariBuff
04-21-2005, 07:33 AM
I also use Game Collector with at about 2700 added titles. the software gets better and faster after every update (hello, Microsoft) and I haven't had speed slowdowns yet. The relatively new feature with thumbnails for every game is also nice.
A good quality product in my eyes.
kainemaxwell
04-21-2005, 08:18 AM
I'll check this out after work tonight!
maxlords
04-21-2005, 08:43 AM
Bah...looks like they won't have most of the incredibly obscure shit that I have lying around. Not worth it. I'll stick to Excel.
THATinkjar
04-21-2005, 08:44 AM
I would imagine a serious collector would want a strong export/report function. The game script for AMC features an extremely feature-rich report designer. Just to let you know. Don't fall for Game Collector, just don't!
Sylentwulf
04-21-2005, 09:11 AM
$40?!
Free, sure, I'll go check it out, been wanting a decent prog like this, but to pay $40? Fark that.
THATinkjar
04-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Considering people don't like paying 40 bucks for Collector, it might be worth noting AMC is actually FREE. Has a huge community, lots of scripts, mods and templates.
A must have for all collectors :)
Lady Jaye
04-21-2005, 01:02 PM
Is AMC PC-only, or does it work on the Mac too?
THATinkjar
04-21-2005, 02:12 PM
PC only. Sorry :(
For anyone wanting to learn more, here are some essential links.
Ant Movie Catalog (http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/) - The main homepage of the movie cataloging software.
Screenshots (http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/screenshots/) - Some great looking screenshots of the program.
Game mod for AMC forum thread (http://forum.antp.be/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1548)
But, if you're just waiting to get started with it, the essential download link to the mod. No previous installation required.
Download (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/KaraGarga/AMC%20Game%20Catalog.zip)
mark1bdi
04-21-2005, 02:17 PM
I will check out AMC etc. Personally, I didn't agree with the payment of $40 but in fairness to the developers I have had in excess of five free upgrades (not patches) adding things like thumbnail views, DS logos (on its release) and a collection status (which is really useful - you add as many games as you can find and then apply a status of in collection, not in collection, wanted or for sale). It is amazing how useful that is.
On top of that, the game loan feature (although it sounds to sad to talk about) actually allows people to lend titles from me without me having to experience that shudder you get from knowing the game is never coming back and that most people view the level of attachment you exhibit as odd.
In answer to a couple of points:
- the lack of titles being in the system is irrevevant as titles are manually added. Logos are sometimes missing but they do get added.
- the robbing of data from websites doesn't really affect me as I hate the clutter that seems to come with importing game data fromt he internet. I prefer clean entries (take up no space).
- speed I don't think is a problem (i have 4500 titles logged with around 1000 gifs and jpgs and the whole thing is fairly instant).
I think these things are always going to be down to personal choice as some collector's (me included) appreciate seeing an item on my list as much as on my shelf....
mark
:hmm:
...the robbing of data from websites doesn't really affect me...
Really? It certainly affects me. It's so nice that I can work all day compiling data so other people can take it for free. That's not even the part that really pisses me off though. Gosh Golly, I just love how they steal my descriptions and reviews (and my colleagues) and don't bother giving credit to the individual authors.
They are real princes over there.
-Cav
kainemaxwell
04-21-2005, 08:44 PM
I'm liking Gamecollector myself but will have to check AMC out shortly!
VACRMH
04-21-2005, 08:46 PM
...the robbing of data from websites doesn't really affect me...
Really? It certainly affects me. It's so nice that I can work all day compiling data so other people can take it for free. That's not even the part that really pisses me off though. Gosh Golly, I just love how they steal my descriptions and reviews (and my colleagues) and don't bother giving credit to the individual authors.
They are real princes over there.
-Cav
Are you from Allgameguide or MobyGames?
FooFighter
04-21-2005, 09:04 PM
...the robbing of data from websites doesn't really affect me...
Really? It certainly affects me. It's so nice that I can work all day compiling data so other people can take it for free. That's not even the part that really pisses me off though. Gosh Golly, I just love how they steal my descriptions and reviews (and my colleagues) and don't bother giving credit to the individual authors.
They are real princes over there.
-Cav
Hmmm and I thought that All Game Guide was a site that anyone could use for *free* gosh I didn't realize that I was supposed to pay.
They have what are called advertisers like Game Stop who pay them. When we go to the site (even through Game Collector) they get what are called hits (those are good advertisers like those).
I had never heard of All Game Guide before I got game collector. And I have clicked on the "Purchase Game Link" several times.
If All Game Guide wants them to stop I'm sure they will stop as they did with Moby Games.
Are you from Allgameguide or MobyGames?
Exactly. And as for Moby Games they have sooooo many holes in their listings it's ridiculous.
Toefur
04-21-2005, 09:13 PM
Looks like a cool app. I'm definately gonna check out their website. Since the company is collectorz.com maybe they'll also have something that catalogues DVDs and comics, which I really need.
Try out DVD Profiler. I've been using it for years and love it.
http://www.intervocative.com
FooFighter
04-21-2005, 10:08 PM
PC only. Sorry :(
For anyone wanting to learn more, here are some essential links.
Ant Movie Catalog (http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/) - The main homepage of the movie cataloging software.
Screenshots (http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog/screenshots/) - Some great looking screenshots of the program.
Game mod for AMC forum thread (http://forum.antp.be/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1548)
But, if you're just waiting to get started with it, the essential download link to the mod. No previous installation required.
Download (http://dl.downloadhosting.com/download/KaraGarga/AMC%20Game%20Catalog.zip)
I downloaded this and am trying it out. It seems pretty cool. The only problem I'm having is when I search for info on a game it says searching Moby Games and then always comes back blank. I was even using a pretty straight foward game "Combat".
Anyway I'm going to mess with this a bit more as it seems interesting.
THATinkjar
04-22-2005, 04:50 AM
I had a quick look at DVD Profiler. But I wasn't happy with it. It was way too tailored and fixed to movies. It has to be something somewhat intended for gaming.
FooFighter: I didn't use any of the scripts to contact websites to retreive information. I did it all manually. What I would say is had to the Scripts forum, people are writing retrival scripts for all sorts of game websites and whatnot. And you can always ask for some help.
All the best.
Answering two posts at once here.
"Are you from Allgameguide or MobyGames?"
Im from All Game Guide.
"Exactly."
Not sure what that means, but that's no secret.
"Hmmm and I thought that All Game Guide was a site that anyone could use for *free* gosh I didn't realize that I was supposed to pay."
You can. Enjoy. But I guess it's too much trouble to get that last little piece of data that tells you who bothered to write the description. Compiled the data, etc... Also, just curious...because you say that it's "a site that anyone could use for *free*.." do you think that the data can be used for just anything? Where is the line drawn?
"They (All Game) have what are called advertisers like Game Stop who pay them."
Bzzzzzzt! Wrong.
"I had never heard of All Game Guide before I got game collector. And I have clicked on the "Purchase Game Link" several times."
Thanks. We appreciate it. Doesn't take away from the fact that writers want credit for their work. But since we're some faceless corporation I guess we're fair game. The reality is that we are a really small company comprised of people who really love what they do and don't get paid very well for it.
Plus, I guess if it's on the Internet then it can be used for anything. It's just a matter of time until collectorz.com figure out how to strip Digital Press of their Collector's Guide data, easter eggs, online rarity guide, reviews, etc.. And they should have every right, shouldn't they? Y'know...since it's freely available. Why stop there? Earl Green's site can be mined. If I recall correctly, people were taking scans Earl had put up on his and using them to sell shirts, etc.. on eBay. They should be able to do that, right? Since his site is one that anyone can use for *free*.
Just by some slim chance, I don't suppose collectorz.com could provide a product pre-loaded with box scans, original descriptions, and UPCs, number of players, screenshots, genres, etc.. that they've researched themselves, could they? Naw.
And to be honest, I have no idea what All Game Guide is going to do about it. Probably nothing. That's for the higher-ups to deal with. But for the little guy who has to sit in this building day after day, year after year collecting that data and writing the descriptions, I guess a quick line of credit is asking too much.
kainemaxwell
04-22-2005, 08:03 AM
Ok, downloaded from the download link, is that the program you install or you gotta get something else??
THATinkjar
04-22-2005, 08:14 AM
The file you downloaded should extract into a folder. Nothing to install, no mess left behind. Easy as pie to backup :)
Inside the folder you extract two should be two executable files. One is the report designer for highly customizable reports (exporting and printing) and the other is the main program itself. Goodluck!
kainemaxwell
04-22-2005, 08:36 AM
I guess that script error that comes up first time you load is a one time thing? I gotta play around with this later, looks a bit complicated then again I'm in a bit of a hurry right now. lol
THATinkjar
04-22-2005, 08:42 AM
If I remember correctly, its an error from trying to find a file that doesn't exist - at least not in the location it is looking for. Once you make a new catalog, and save it, it will open that by default on load. So that error will disappear :)
VACRMH
04-22-2005, 08:54 AM
Answering two posts at once here.
"Are you from Allgameguide or MobyGames?"
Im from All Game Guide.
"Exactly."
Not sure what that means, but that's no secret.
Just so you know, I also have no idea why he said exactly LOL
It's a shame that they would do something like that, and now I can see why Mobygames got away from them. Do you think someone could create an agreement with them? Maybe something like a link on collectorz.com's website... but I will admit if I was in your shoes and I wasn't getting any credit at all, i'd be pissed too.
I love the site, keep up the good work.
Lady Jaye
04-22-2005, 09:06 AM
The whole thing about stealing the info from sites like AGG and MobyGames bugs me too. Although it's an interesting product, that fact alone is a complete turn-off.
VACRMH said...
"It's a shame that they would do something like that, and now I can see why Mobygames got away from them. Do you think someone could create an agreement with them? Maybe something like a link on collectorz.com's website... but I will admit if I was in your shoes and I wasn't getting any credit at all, i'd be pissed too.
I love the site, keep up the good work."
I think it would be great if someone made a deal with them. Actually, I think it's a pretty cool product, from what I've seen. Good idea, anyway.
Let me put it this way. The DISCOVER console will be using All Game Guide data to provide you with information when you load a disc. It's basically the same info that collectorz.com is pulling over for free. The difference is that they are paying for our data. As is Blockbuster, as is Circuit City, as is Yahoo!, among others. It's what All Game Guide does, and what All Media Guide does in general. There is a danger that people could compile all this data on CD and sell discs on eBay (or whereever). Yes, that's not collectorz.com fault, as it's not the MAME people's fault that people would do that with roms and their emulator. But I think it's something our clients could rightfully question.
Personally, I just would like to see my name and my colleague's names picked up as well. It's only about two lines below where the description text ends. Oh, and just for the record....in NO WAY am I giving an official company line on this. I do not speak for All Game Guide. I'm just giving my opinion as one of the guys working in the trenches. (thought it wise to cover my ass there!)
Like I said, I think the program is good idea. But why don't they go the extra mile and create the data themselves and maybe sell a subscription for monthly updates? A lot of work? Expensive to get a copy of every single game that is released every week? You bet.
Anyway, I've rambled enough on this topic and I've probably put more than enough people to sleep... -_-
We do have a lot of blood and sweat in the All Game database and I'm the first to admit that we're a bit rough around the edges on some early data, but that's what they hired me for. If you see anything in our database that is wrong or you think some writing is of questionable quality you can personally write to me and let me know. I'd actually **really** *appreciate knowing what you find. It's a database of over 40,000 titles and it's difficult to police it all. You'd be amazed when I uncover each day that was entered for I arrived. Talk about easter eggs.
..ok, better go. I think I just put more people to sleep. LOL
-Cav
FooFighter
04-22-2005, 10:16 AM
VACRMH said...
"It's a shame that they would do something like that, and now I can see why Mobygames got away from them. Do you think someone could create an agreement with them? Maybe something like a link on collectorz.com's website... but I will admit if I was in your shoes and I wasn't getting any credit at all, i'd be pissed too.
I love the site, keep up the good work."
I think it would be great if someone made a deal with them. Actually, I think it's a pretty cool product, from what I've seen. Good idea, anyway.
Let me put it this way. The DISCOVER console will be using All Game Guide data to provide you with information when you load a disc. It's basically the same info that collectorz.com is pulling over for free. The difference is that they are paying for our data. As is Blockbuster, as is Circuit City, as is Yahoo!, among others. It's what All Game Guide does, and what All Media Guide does in general. There is a danger that people could compile all this data on CD and sell discs on eBay (or whereever). Yes, that's not collectorz.com fault, as it's not the MAME people's fault that people would do that with roms and their emulator. But I think it's something our clients could rightfully question.
Personally, I just would like to see my name and my colleague's names picked up as well. It's only about two lines below where the description text ends. Oh, and just for the record....in NO WAY am I giving an official company line on this. I do not speak for All Game Guide. I'm just giving my opinion as one of the guys working in the trenches. (thought it wise to cover my ass there!)
Like I said, I think the program is good idea. But why don't they go the extra mile and create the data themselves and maybe sell a subscription for monthly updates? A lot of work? Expensive to get a copy of every single game that is released every week? You bet.
Anyway, I've rambled enough on this topic and I've probably put more than enough people to sleep... -_-
We do have a lot of blood and sweat in the All Game database and I'm the first to admit that we're a bit rough around the edges on some early data, but that's what they hired me for. If you see anything in our database that is wrong or you think some writing is of questionable quality you can personally write to me and let me know. I'd actually **really** *appreciate knowing what you find. It's a database of over 40,000 titles and it's difficult to police it all. You'd be amazed when I uncover each day that was entered for I arrived. Talk about easter eggs.
..ok, better go. I think I just put more people to sleep. LOL
-Cav
Ok, ok. I apologize for my somewhat angry post.
As a user of the product I felt, perhaps mistakenly, that you were in a way attacking me when I am only as an individual using the resources available to me.
I use All Game Guide and appreciate the work you do.
Ok, ok. I apologize for my somewhat angry post.
As a user of the product I felt, perhaps mistakenly, that you were in a way attacking me when I am only as an individual using the resources available to me.
I use All Game Guide and appreciate the work you do.
No harm, no foul. Nothing taken personally at all. The funny thing is that we receive very little feedback at All Game Guide (other than the obligatory "GiMmE cHeAtZZZ!!"), so in a weird sense I'm glad to know that the average joe is seeing our data and using it to track their collections. It's just also kind of frustrating at the same time. But feel free to give us feedback at gamesfeedback@allgame.com. I personally read all e-mail that goes to that address. Oh, and thanks for the compliment. I'm really glad you visit All Game. It's good knowing people are out there.
Thanks,
-Cav
ianoid
04-22-2005, 11:08 PM
Does AMC have some populated lists? Does it auto-update lists with ongoing (new) releases? That's what I'd like.
I traded for my current database, which is current up to like 1997 with some inaccuracies. I would also want something to try to import my collection. Being into weird stuff makes using standard lists hard. The DP list is about as good as it gets for me, so I just populate my lists with our lists by hand. I have only done it maybe twice.
Big Papa Husker
04-22-2005, 11:17 PM
I downloaded this and am trying it out. It seems pretty cool. The only problem I'm having is when I search for info on a game it says searching Moby Games and then always comes back blank. I was even using a pretty straight foward game "Combat".
I also had the same problem. What is going on? Why can't it find anything I type in? Is it down?
legov8
04-23-2005, 04:44 PM
That program is pretty good.
Cirrus
04-24-2005, 04:55 AM
I have a question about Game Collector: Does anyone have any GMC file with ALL games included? I'd like to have a premade list with everything, and then just check yes/no on whether I have a game... kind of like the DP Online List, but not online.
Anybody know where to get this?
Cirrus
04-24-2005, 06:59 PM
I now have another question: is there a way to insert screenshots for each game? That would be a really good implementation if it isn't possible.
Previous question still open! :)
VACRMH
04-24-2005, 07:01 PM
I now have another question: is there a way to insert screenshots for each game? That would be a really good implementation if it isn't possible.
Previous question still open! :)
Yep, just change back cover to Screenshot, and add them there.
That's what I do at least.
Cirrus
04-24-2005, 07:51 PM
That's a great idea. I had considered doing Back Cover as screenshot. I didn't know you could change the names of the slots.
Thanks.
VACRMH
05-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Looks like it's going to be more time consuming adding each game now.
http://www.collectorz.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3818
Amazon support sucked, the only good thing was AGG.
NintendoMan
05-02-2005, 04:16 PM
WOW, that looks like a sweet program to use!
I don't have any imports so wouldnt have to worry about them not having a game in the database too.
tylerwillis
05-02-2005, 11:15 PM
An interesting thread to read.
I wonder if GC will start to lose sales as it lost both its best info sources - first, Moby; now, AGG. From my experience, Amazon is NOT the best source... it's not even close. Amazon JP never has any imports that I search for and even the US is spotty.
I think I can see both sides. First, for the writers at AGG, DP, Moby, etc - I never realized that ya'll didn't get something for the use of GC. That sucks. Period. I guess I should have realized that the descriptions never had a tagline, but it never hit me. So while I don't support GC for straight up jacking your work...
The reason I use GC is for its speed. I could manually search AGG and enter the info (guess I will be doing that from now on), but I really prefer not to spend that much time cataloguing. I loved that it could pull info from AGG without me entering it in - I first used it when I had about 300 games - it would have taken forever to enter that stuff manually, forever enough that I probably would not have ever accessed AGG/Moby to get the good info.
So... I dunno what to say. Is there any chance that GC and AGG will be able to work something out so that it's an info source again? Adding by-lines and a licensing fee or something? I think they're both good tools individually, but it was the combination of the two that made everything great.
BTW - To all who work AGG and DP knowledge stuff, thanks. Seriously, you guys rock.
Twitami
05-02-2005, 11:58 PM
Well crap. I was actually going to buy GC tonite, after playing around with the trial this week. But without the AGG lookup, it really isnt looking like it is worth $40.00 anymore. Damn, I had figured out a way to put my systems and hardware in it and everything. I do understand the arguments, but I am totally bummed now :(
Brian
tylerwillis
05-03-2005, 12:02 AM
Twitami is case in point - a lost sale due to the loss of a great info source. I wonder how many people will be sending emails to GC begging that AGG be back. Hopefully it will be enough to encourage GC to bend and make peace with AGG (or even Moby) and give credit/money.
pacmanhat
05-03-2005, 12:06 AM
I downloaded this and am trying it out. It seems pretty cool. The only problem I'm having is when I search for info on a game it says searching Moby Games and then always comes back blank. I was even using a pretty straight foward game "Combat".
I also had the same problem. What is going on? Why can't it find anything I type in? Is it down?
Same here. The only time I got results was when I tried to put in "Soul Calibur" and it said i had TOO MANY results. I'd very much like to know what the deal is...it seems like a great program (bandwidth stealing or otherwise).
Cirrus
05-03-2005, 12:12 AM
I downloaded this and am trying it out. It seems pretty cool. The only problem I'm having is when I search for info on a game it says searching Moby Games and then always comes back blank. I was even using a pretty straight foward game "Combat".
I also had the same problem. What is going on? Why can't it find anything I type in? Is it down?
Same here. The only time I got results was when I tried to put in "Soul Calibur" and it said i had TOO MANY results. I'd very much like to know what the deal is...it seems like a great program (bandwidth stealing or otherwise).
Well, the best bet is to ONLY select the allgameguide.com option, and turn off all of the amazon crap. Also, select the system up top while inputting your title, and you will likely have the best result in first place.
Also, the message linked to above seems to suggest that all FUTURE versions of gamecollector will not have access to agg.com. Mine still works, but it's an older version. Just get your hands on an old copy and stick with it. I don't plan on upgrading at this point.
Twitami
05-03-2005, 12:14 AM
I tried Ant Movie and got all the same errors. Kinda sucks. Personally, if I was AGG, or Game Collector, I would work out something FAST. I knwo GC tried to work something out with Moby, but they didn't want to get into the reasons why it didn't work out on the message boards. it does sound like they tried. Personnally, I say they lower the program $10.00 or so, and then have a subscription thing for AGG at a few bucks a month. I would have no problem paying AGG for the work they have done. Man, I am just so bummed, I thought I had finally found what i wanted :(
tylerwillis
05-03-2005, 12:21 AM
Cirrus, what version are you using? I was trying out 1.6 v4 and AGG search has died (something about a parse xml file missing). I thought they had disabled it in all previous versions - like they did with Moby. I know I haven't upgraded to the latest because I only upgrade manually, and the latest is 1.7 something.
Cirrus
05-03-2005, 12:25 AM
Cirrus, what version are you using? I was trying out 1.6 v4 and AGG search has died (something about a parse xml file missing). I thought they had disabled it in all previous versions - like they did with Moby. I know I haven't upgraded to the latest because I only upgrade manually, and the latest is 1.7 something.
Sorry, I lied. I just went and tried and it failed, same error. I must have thought that message was a bit earlier. Oh well.
About a monthly charge for agg.com connectivity, I think that wouldn't work. I needed them for my first big load of games, but adding them manually really isn't all that bad. Plus, mobygames.com is really better for the most part, so I usually add things (cut/paste) from them anyway.
Maybe a 1 time 5 dollar agg.com fee would be good, but you are right: this program would suck pretty bad without it. I'm glad the bulk of my collection has already been entered.
Twitami
05-03-2005, 12:27 AM
They are talking about Ant Movie in that post Cirrus. And I just tried my older demo of GC, it doesnt work anymore (
FooFighter
05-03-2005, 09:56 AM
Plus, mobygames.com is really better for the most part, so I usually add things (cut/paste) from them anyway.
This was said on the GC site too but I just dont get it. I am continuously finding holes in Moby's game database. I mean often obvoius games not rares or imports. What they do have is ok, often missing a photo or complete release date. AGG almost always has the game.
GrandAmChandler
05-03-2005, 10:05 AM
I tried Game Collector, but I didn't think it was worth the 40 bucks, although I really think the export to HTML is HIGHLY convienient. For people who catalog with Excel, what type of fields do you use? Also, is there a feature in Excel where you can sort an entire column by the alphabet? (I.e. like sorting messages in Outlook) In addition has anyone gone as far as creating an Access Database? I'd really like some pointers on this! Thanks
-Chris
Cirrus
05-03-2005, 03:09 PM
Plus, mobygames.com is really better for the most part, so I usually add things (cut/paste) from them anyway.
This was said on the GC site too but I just dont get it. I am continuously finding holes in Moby's game database. I mean often obvoius games not rares or imports. What they do have is ok, often missing a photo or complete release date. AGG almost always has the game.
Yeah, it misses games quite a bit (mobygames), but it 'always' has a description as long as it has the game, and the box shots they have are much bigger (try clicking one). On top of that, they usually have the screenshots too, which I put in GameCollector, after changing "back cover" to "screenshot".
AllGamesGuide has every game, but very often miss a description, or have a poor box cover image.
Twitami
05-03-2005, 04:20 PM
So, has anyone had any luck with Ant Movie guide pulling info, or do we all get those same errors? If anyone has had any luck getting this to work, please speak up!
I need something badly to keep track of stuff :)
Brian
s1lence
05-03-2005, 04:34 PM
I've used game collector, its kind of a pain to add everything. For modern, current systems its a good one to use, but to be honest I use the DP guides for everything else. It is way easier to check mark the box then have to manually add everything to the gc program.
FooFighter
05-08-2005, 08:45 PM
Any other Game Collector users that still like All Game Guide get this message?
"Through traffic monitoring of our websites we have identified your IP address accessing our website(s) at a rate and speed inconsistent with the noncommercial and personal use permitted by our site's Terms of Use. As a result, access to allmusic.com, allmovie.com and allgame.com has been denied.
If you feel you have been denied access in error, please contact All Media Guide at webaccess@allmediaguide.com. Please include your name, company, IP address (--.---.--.---), and technical contact, if applicable, in your response. Thank you."
I guess its Moby Games and Gamestats.com now for me. I'm not going to f-ing beg them to let me on.
tylerwillis
05-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Gotten the message, but I thought it was me customzing a search bar in Opera. Oddly, if you hit reload a few times, the message disappears? It's continued to happen to me - I personally think it's quite annoying, so I tend to check other sites first now. Would prefer to not have to do so, but having 1/4 of my searches randomly blocked gets old... fast.
FooFighter
05-09-2005, 01:40 PM
Yea, you're right it does dissappear. Oh well its just too much of a pain as you said having half of your searches rejected.
Jestr
05-14-2005, 12:07 AM
So I sent collectorz.com an e-mail stating that I was having a problem using All Game Guide as an infosource (I had not read this post or the one on the support forums). They sent me back an e-mail stating that I could fix the problem by downloading the newest upgrade!
I said "Cool, my 40 dollars isn't wasted after all". After completing the donwload, I found that all it had done was take of the link for AGG and added one for Amazon JP. :hmm:
I don't think that fixed the problem as they claimed it would and I was annoyed to have been misled.
On a positive note, the last post on the collectorz forum did mention digitalpress as a viable option to AGG if a deal could be reached. I hope it happens.
PDorr3
05-14-2005, 07:29 PM
EDIT: oops I posted in the wrong game collector topic :)
Oobgarm
05-15-2005, 11:14 PM
I dunno if it's any interest to anyone, but since Game Collector is no longer using All Game Guide as a source, they are offering refunds to those who feel that their $40 is no longer justified since a major part of the program's functionality has been removed. They say that they are negotiating with a couple other sites, but I thought I'd make the refund thing known.
If you think our program has no value for you without the AMG functionality, please contact us by email at support@collectorz.com and we will refund your money or exchange your license into one for a different Collectorz.com product (your choice). However, this will mean that your license will be disabled and that you will not be allowed to use the program anymore.
kainemaxwell
05-15-2005, 11:38 PM
I tried Game Collector, but I didn't think it was worth the 40 bucks, although I really think the export to HTML is HIGHLY convienient. For people who catalog with Excel, what type of fields do you use? Also, is there a feature in Excel where you can sort an entire column by the alphabet? (I.e. like sorting messages in Outlook) In addition has anyone gone as far as creating an Access Database? I'd really like some pointers on this! Thanks
-Chris
For my Excel db I use:
Name of game
System
Company
DP Rarity
DP Price (which I usually don't fill in for some reason)
Complete
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allsport11
05-16-2005, 09:38 PM
Uh Oh, looks like someone posted a link to Digitpress on the collectorz.com board. :hmm:
RevQuixo
06-07-2005, 11:41 PM
I dunno if it's any interest to anyone, but since Game Collector is no longer using All Game Guide as a source, they are offering refunds to those who feel that their $40 is no longer justified since a major part of the program's functionality has been removed. They say that they are negotiating with a couple other sites, but I thought I'd make the refund thing known.
Well now that the deal has fallen through I can chime in and say my site was one that they were negotiating to use as a data source.
Seemed like everything was on the up-and-up and that we had worked out a licensing arrangement for VGR to be used as an external datasource when late in the negotiating they tossed me a curveball saying that they did not want to just license my database...they wanted to *own* an image of it.
The basic idea is that they want to internalize their system and have everything flow into and out of a central database....controlled by them It's a nice idea in theory, but I'll be darned if I am going to let them profit off of the hard work of my staff.
I would have been fine with them using VGR as an external datasource, hell we even wrote up the programming to interface VGR with GC, but they want too much for too little.
Meh. The real kicker is having a beta version of their software that includes VGR support and seeing that there could have been some real possibilities for a fruitful relationship.