dracula x

[mrsuit]

I was wondering if the turbo duo version of dracula x has everything the snes version has or is the snes has levels bosses ect that the duo version dosen't.

[Tron 2.0]

I was wondering if the turbo duo version of dracula x has everything the snes version has or is the snes has levels bosses ect that the duo version dosen't.
http://www.classicgaming.com/castlevania/welcome.html

[Crush Crawfish]

They're actually two different games. The SNES game is the sequel to the Turbo duo game.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

Wow! Weird you should mention this as I just bought the Duo one on eBay for a mate of mine! :)

Apparently, I am told the Turbo Duo one came first and is actually better than it's SNES counterpart.

[ClassicGameTrader]

If you have 100+ for a copy of Dracula X and another 200 or so for a system you can't do much better then the duo version. The SNES version is a huge letdown, it doesn't even come remotly close to the duo version. On its own it doesn't even really match the first SNES game. It does share alot in common with the duo counterpart but the level design, story and characters fall far short. I'll never understand why konami didn't just port it to the SNES for the USA version. They could of even fit all of the voices and cutscenes on a 32 meg cart!!!

[ClassicGameTrader]

Was a double post, Damn!!!

[Big Papa Husker]

I seriously doubt they could fit all the stuff onto a SNES cart. Isnt it when they say its 32megabits isnt that around 4 MBs.

[mattmcgrath25]

Isnt it when they say its 32megabits isnt that around 4 MBs.

Yes, 8 bits = 1 byte.

[Gamereviewgod]

The SNES version is seriously under appreciated. If you compare them, then yeah, the Duo version is superior. That doesn't mean the SNES version is bad. It's one great game of Castlevania. The music is superb, damn close to the CD, it's hard, and it's Castlevania. You can't ask for more than that.

[Archenemy]

One thing, only one thing makes it worth playing (or owning, appart of collection) the SNES version:

The famous rolling flames effect in the last part of the first stage. It still amazes me, as it was breathtaking back then and later copied and improved. As a matter of fact I believe that the regular enemies and the main character DO look almost the same in all versions.

Haven't finished my Duo version yet, but the Dracula of the SNES is very very very difficult if you don't kill him in the first attempt. And our long term friend -YES, Death- is almost equally difficult as well. Seriously.

[ClassicGameTrader]

I seriously doubt they could fit all the stuff onto a SNES cart. Isnt it when they say its 32megabits isnt that around 4 MBs.

Well considering the cartridge was i think 16 megs, they sure as hell could of done better. I mean, Super Metroid has an intro with speech similar to Dracula X. They could of fit the alternate levels, speech and cutscenes and maria in some sort of way. Case and point, it could of been a much more rewarding experience.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Originally Akumajou Dracula XX (SNES version) was meant to be a sequel to Dracula X PCE (thus the XX).

Yet half way into the game, whoever was behind this project decided to just re-created Dracula X from the ground up.

Yet the SNES tries to be like Dracula X. Both games are entirely different from start to finish.

[evildead2099]

The SNES version is seriously under appreciated. If you compare them, then yeah, the Duo version is superior. That doesn't mean the SNES version is bad. It's one great game of Castlevania. The music is superb, damn close to the CD, it's hard, and it's Castlevania. You can't ask for more than that.

You took the words out of my mouth.

One thing that annoys me about Dracula X is the way magazines reacted to it. EGM's editors criticized the game harshly for being a wattered down "port" of Akumajou Dracula X: Chi No Rondo. Anyone who's actually played Chi No Rondo knows that Dracula X for the SNES is not a port in any reasonable sense of the term.

[Great Hierophant]

The SNES game seems more like a "re-imagining" than a port. It contains many of the same sprites and game mechanics as well as similar levels and music. However the PC Super CD (if it was released in the US I would say Turbo Duo) game is more complex, has more options and showed the evolution of the series to Symphony of the Night.

Of course, with all that space, 650 whole Megabytes, what do you do with it? Uncompressed CD-audio is one place to start, anime is another way to fill some bytes. (I believe 99.9% of anime is derivative, lifeless crap, but that's my personal opinion.) Dracula is a more balanced challenge on the Super CD than the SNES. In level two of the SNES game there is a corridor of spear armors that is very difficult to get by so early in the game.

The early Castlevania's often had more balanced challenges in their Japanese versions than in their NES versions. The original Castlevania came out for the Famicom Disk System so you once you got past a tough boss you could save the game. Castlevania III had a better Grant character and less arbitrary damage. (The earliest Castlevanias, Haunted Castle and Vampire Killer are unfairly difficult regardless of port.) Dracula X allowed you to play as Maria, who is often much more easier to use than that dead-weight Richter.

[MegaDrive20XX]

The SNES version is seriously under appreciated. If you compare them, then yeah, the Duo version is superior. That doesn't mean the SNES version is bad. It's one great game of Castlevania. The music is superb, damn close to the CD, it's hard, and it's Castlevania. You can't ask for more than that.

You took the words out of my mouth.

One thing that annoys me about Dracula X is the way magazines reacted to it. EGM's editors criticized the game harshly for being a wattered down "port" of Akumajou Dracula X: Chi No Rondo. Anyone who's actually played Chi No Rondo knows that Dracula X for the SNES is not a port in any reasonable sense of the term.


Yeah the big reason why the SNES music is superb on Dracula X. Is due to the fact the sound chip for the SNES was designed by Sony ;) Two names that will never see the light of day again..."Nintendo Sony" written on the sound chip....

[Dire 51]

The SNES version is seriously under appreciated. If you compare them, then yeah, the Duo version is superior. That doesn't mean the SNES version is bad. It's one great game of Castlevania. The music is superb, damn close to the CD, it's hard, and it's Castlevania. You can't ask for more than that.

You took the words out of my mouth.

One thing that annoys me about Dracula X is the way magazines reacted to it. EGM's editors criticized the game harshly for being a wattered down "port" of Akumajou Dracula X: Chi No Rondo. Anyone who's actually played Chi No Rondo knows that Dracula X for the SNES is not a port in any reasonable sense of the term.

Damn, David, you beat me to it. LOL

Both games are worth owning, no questions about it. I'm counting the days until I own copies of both of them again (and Chronicles, for that matter).

[Crush Crawfish]

The SNES version is seriously under appreciated. If you compare them, then yeah, the Duo version is superior. That doesn't mean the SNES version is bad. It's one great game of Castlevania. The music is superb, damn close to the CD, it's hard, and it's Castlevania. You can't ask for more than that.

You took the words out of my mouth.

One thing that annoys me about Dracula X is the way magazines reacted to it. EGM's editors criticized the game harshly for being a wattered down "port" of Akumajou Dracula X: Chi No Rondo. Anyone who's actually played Chi No Rondo knows that Dracula X for the SNES is not a port in any reasonable sense of the term.

Gotta thank both of you for defending the criminally underappreciated SNES Dracula X. Sure It's not the Turbo Duo game, but It's still a damn fine game. It's actually one of my favorite castlevanias ever. Now, If only I could get past level 5...

[Dire 51]

Sure It's not the Turbo Duo game, but It's still a damn fine game.

That's what I've been saying for years. It boggles my mind to see it bashed so much.

[MegaDrive20XX]

i'm gonna have to support Crush here, Dracula X on SNES is a damn fine game in it's own place. Nintendo Power even trashed it and they usually support anything with their damn name on it :roll:

It is too clear that Dracula X SNES is an entirely different game.

Yet, anyone who has played Dracula X Rondo of Blood, should damn well know there is a major difference between the two (PCE vs. SNES)

[Dire 51]

i'm gonna have to support Crush here, Dracula X on SNES is a damn fine game in it's own place. Nintendo Power even trashed it and they usually support anything with their damn name on it :roll:

It is too clear that Dracula X SNES is an entirely different game.

Yet, anyone who has played Dracula X Rondo of Blood, should damn well know there is a major difference between the two (PCE vs. SNES)

A HUGE difference. It's like comparing the Genesis Sparkster to the SNES Sparkster.

[rbudrick]

Originally Akumajou Dracula XX (SNES version) was meant to be a sequel to Dracula X PCE (thus the XX).

Yet half way into the game, whoever was behind this project decided to just re-created Dracula X from the ground up.

Yet the SNES tries to be like Dracula X. Both games are entirely different from start to finish.

Yes, that was my understanding too. the PSX Symphony of the night was the real sequel to Rondo.

-Rob

[MegaDrive20XX]

i'm gonna have to support Crush here, Dracula X on SNES is a damn fine game in it's own place. Nintendo Power even trashed it and they usually support anything with their damn name on it :roll:

It is too clear that Dracula X SNES is an entirely different game.

Yet, anyone who has played Dracula X Rondo of Blood, should damn well know there is a major difference between the two (PCE vs. SNES)

A HUGE difference. It's like comparing the Genesis Sparkster to the SNES Sparkster.

Bingo, I just love the SNES version because of the remix soundtracks added and the new challenge it offered. Since I felt Dracula Rondo of Blood was a breeze until I fought the final form of Shaft.

The SNES version had me cussing like Death's Battle in Super Castlevania 4 :D When you end up cussing a game out, that's usually a dead give away that the game is really good.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Originally Akumajou Dracula XX (SNES version) was meant to be a sequel to Dracula X PCE (thus the XX).

Yet half way into the game, whoever was behind this project decided to just re-created Dracula X from the ground up.

Yet the SNES tries to be like Dracula X. Both games are entirely different from start to finish.

Yes, that was my understanding too. the PSX Symphony of the night was the real sequel to Rondo.

-Rob


Pretty much, because Dracula X SNES final battle looks nothing like the intro to SOTN (Ricther and Dracula battle).

I remember US fans who were not fimilar with Rondo, were like "What game is that from? I Think it's from Super CastleVania or CastleVania NES!" is what some would say and I'm just like "Thanks Konami for neglecting us.

I've met alot of Castlevania fans and they still dawg the SNES version, but in reality they have never even touched the game! Yet praise the PCE version like they have it at home, you can see the lies! We just nod our head at these people because they speak of a truth. Yet we can beg to differ since most of us have lived to tell the tale of Rondo and compare it to the SNES game.

[Aussie2B]

I've met alot of Castlevania fans and they still dawg the SNES version, but in reality they have never even touched the game! Yet praise the PCE version like they have it at home, you can see the lies! We just nod our head at these people because they speak of a truth. Yet we can beg to differ since most of us have lived to tell the tale of Rondo and compare it to the SNES game.

Haha, so true. It's so apparent that these dumb kids have probably never played either, and they're just repeating what they've heard on the 'net. Just tell them to go back to worshipping Igarashi and playing their Lament of Innocence...

I don't think it's even fair to compare the two, and I would NEVER suggest that Dracula X on SNES is a port of Rondo. I see them as two different games, offering two different experiences. I'm probably one of the few people in existence who owns Rondo yet STILL wants to get Dracula X for SNES.

[Lord Contaminous]

I'm probably one of the few people in existence who owns Rondo yet STILL wants to get Dracula X for SNES.
I'm one of them. (look at the piece of paper in the center of the vertical SFC boxes.)
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[Aussie2B]

Haha, awesome. :) Nice collection of SFC games too.

[Sotenga]

Sure It's not the Turbo Duo game, but It's still a damn fine game.

That's what I've been saying for years. It boggles my mind to see it bashed so much.

Gotta agree here as one of the board's resident Castlevania geeks. I definitely prefer Rondo of Blood for the PC Engine, but Dracula X for the SNES is still a quality game nonetheless. As a plus, it's one of the most challenging games of the series, one that could keep veteran CV gamers playing for weeks until they finally beat it. I must say, the end battle is one of Dracula's hardest incarnations ever... maybe even his absolute hardest! It's freaking difficult, simply for the fact that you fight on pillars, and if you slip in between the gaps, that will be the story of you. The fight against his human form takes a LONG time, and the fight against his demon form is... hard. Just... hard. H-A-R-D.

Of course, the finale isn't the only challenging bit of Drac X. I'll leave you to find out what else can be construed as challenging. ;)

A few tracks on the SNES I actually prefer to the PC Engine arrangements, specifically "Rondo of Blood" and "Beginning." However, one of the most atmospheric and, in my opinion, cooler tunes from the PCE, "Picture of a Ghost Ship," has been absolutely bodged on the SNES sound chip and just sounds a slight tad choppy. Can't win 'em all...

[MegaDrive20XX]

[quote=Crush Crawfish]Sure It's not the Turbo Duo game, but It's still a damn fine game.
A few tracks on the SNES I actually prefer to the PC Engine arrangements, specifically "Rondo of Blood" and "Beginning." However, one of the most atmospheric and, in my opinion, cooler tunes from the PCE, "Picture of a Ghost Ship," has been absolutely bodged on the SNES sound chip and just sounds a slight tad choppy. Can't win 'em all...


Actually I beg to differ on "Picture of a Ghost Ship" The SNES remix actually holds up pretty well. Yet I love both soundtracks give or take. Yet some of the remixes on SNES pull a miracle or two.

[GaijinPunch]

You know, I've always been a lukewarm Castlevania fan. Don't get me wrong, I owned the the NES version and played the tits off of it, but it never made me want to touch myself or anything.

Well, I went on vacation (sort of.. went home) for a week and got super bored being up late while my parents crashed, so tried some games out in emulation. I wound up playing the two latter GBA games and am now on the PS2 Castlevania - maybe the best PS2 game I've purchased for 1500 yen. That's three Dracula/Castlevania's in like 3 weeks. On that note, does the US version of Lamment of Innocence have the option for Japanese voice overs? The JPN one is bilingual.

[Ed Oscuro]

Alright, here's a crazy question. I went and did a stupid thing a while back - bought one of the strat guides for this game (PC-Engine version we're talking about) and it set me back something like $100. Good, bad, plain silly? The (only) other one listed isn't about to move off eBay anytime soon at that price (or $105), though copies of the Dracula XX guide probably would top out around $60-$70 if bidding got fierce.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Most JPN SFC guide books fetch a nice price, like Zelda LttP for SFC. This guide book went for $88

[Ed Oscuro]

What now? I saw one a few weeks ago that wasn't close to that...maybe it wasn't BIN, but that seems way off.

[MegaDrive20XX]

does the US version of Lamment of Innocence have the option for Japanese voice overs? The JPN one is bilingual.

Nope, because Lament of Innocence came out in America first, but when it came to Japan, it has that feature, plus a few new areas to explore I've heard and a hidden costume for Leon.

[MegaDrive20XX]

What now? I saw one a few weeks ago that wasn't close to that...maybe it wasn't BIN, but that seems way off.

Nah this was from last year, it was kind of odd to see it that high.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yeah, really high. Dojar had PSIV and PSIII game guides and I think his price on those came out to $30/each...and THAT seemed high. I dunno, I don't buy into the "Mega Drive was a flop" story that's popular in some parts, and in any case the Japanese guide for Zelda III should be common as dirt.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Megadrive wasn't a flop at all, that I can rest assure, because if I can find a Genesis/Megadrive quicker then a NES or SNES these days at a local flea market. Someone is definitely smoking some crack...

[Ed Oscuro]

Sorry, I meant the Mega Drive in Japan. Again, I don't believe it (said source had some other flaws)

The other day I wrote that Comix Zone was one of the rarest Mega Drive games (...which it is, in Japan that is) and sells for hundred(s) of dollars; somebody responded "sweet, I see five copies at a local store, thanks man!"

Well, alright, they only said ONE copy...but yeah, in my mind I'm adding the "in Japan" but forget to do it when I'm writing copy. Speaking of this...does anybody have any stats on the various 16-bit era consoles' sales over the years in Japan? :O

[MegaDrive20XX]

I'd like to see those numbers too, but Megadrive did amazingly well in Japan I always thought.

[Richter Belmount]

dracula x for the snes aint so bad , its difficult but still enjoyable as hell.

[Aussie2B]

From what I've seen, most Japanese guide books are quite cheap. I don't know of any that are worth much more than $20-$30 tops. In the US, most of the valuable guides are for RPGs, but since RPGs are mainstream in Japan, that just doesn't happen with their guides.