DS winning War

[slownerveaction]

Although the point could easily be argued that unless you're a techie who's building your own computer, you probably wouldn't know how to install Linux (or Windows for that matter) to begin with. I don't think that many non-tech savvy people who buy a computer are going to want to try to figure out how to install Linux anyway.

The reason that Dell and Gateway don't easily offer those alternatives is because there simply isn't enough demand for it, and Dell and Gateway are both in the business to make money. Linux is a good OS, but due to the critical mass that Windows has acheived, consumers just don't care about it right now. If that mass can be chipped away at (which would be done through more applications that can load and save things the same way as Windows applications), then Linux would be an alternative, and you would see places like Dell and Gateway offer it.

Yeah, I know. *writing this on a computer he built, but runs Windows XP on it anyway, so he probably shouldn't complain*

Small aside, Linux does best outside the tech-geek world with super-low-budget Wal-mart Lindows machines, right?

[goatdan]

Small aside, Linux does best outside the tech-geek world with super-low-budget Wal-mart Lindows machines, right?

I would assume so, but I don't know. I have attempted to use Linux in the past, and it basically came down to the fact that it would take me a long time to learn about all the ins and outs, where I get paid to work with the ins and outs of XP on a daily basis at work.

Anyone happen to know what the percentage of Windows / Linux users is out there? It's another interesting "war" that is going on.

Seems like this topic has gone into all electronic "wars" now. Lots of interesting stuff :)

[slownerveaction]

Seems like this topic has gone into all electronic "wars" now. Lots of interesting stuff :)

Yeah! We should throw HDTVs and hybrid cars in while we're at just to mix things up some more. :)

[neotokeo2001]

Latest numbers for the week week ending May 1, 2005. DS continues to enjoy a comfortable lead in sales with 64,247 units, the PS2 and PSP trailing with 40,471 and 38,778 units, respectively.

Nintendo DS: 64,247 (Annual: 739,557)
PlayStation 2: 40,471 (Annual: 828,824)
PlayStation Portable: 38,778 (Annual: 796,654)
Game Boy Advance SP: 14,616 (Annual: 280,128)
GameCube: 6,125 (Annual: 99,574)
Game Boy Advance: 448 (Annual: 9,594)
Xbox: 271 (Annual: 6,360)

[slownerveaction]

So I guess it's safe to say the DS will have the higher installed base in Japan for some time to come...

The next batch of figures will be from Golden Week (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week), which tends to be a big week for Nintendo. On the other hand, the PSP keeps chugging along with big sales despite a lack of any notable game releases.

[Famidrive-16]

Which war is the DS winning? The Iraq war? The war on drugs? The war of the worlds?

It definitely hasn't won the third HYUCK HYUCK

[frodo2968]

I'm not gonna read through the whole topic, but I really don't believe that the DS is winning the "war" over the PSP, and I don't think that it ever will. I've owned both systems (currently own the PSP), and the PSP is quite a bit better IMO.

[Policenaut]

I'll get both, the DS and the PSP. And like Metallica said " and nothing else matters" hehe LOL

[goatdan]

So I guess it's safe to say the DS will have the higher installed base in Japan for some time to come...

I wouldn't say that yet. Nintendo just has a good thing going right now because of Nintendogs. Honestly, 20,000 units is not that big of a deal. I think when Sony finally gets something Squarenix published, then we'll see a grossly larger PSP quantity sold.


I'm not gonna read through the whole topic, but I really don't believe that the DS is winning the "war" over the PSP, and I don't think that it ever will. I've owned both systems (currently own the PSP), and the PSP is quite a bit better IMO.

Um... Okay. That has no basis in any facts, but... Okay.

[hydr0x]

So I guess it's safe to say the DS will have the higher installed base in Japan for some time to come...

I wouldn't say that yet. Nintendo just has a good thing going right now because of Nintendogs. Honestly, 20,000 units is not that big of a deal. I think when Sony finally gets something Squarenix published, then we'll see a grossly larger PSP quantity sold.



yeah, but the same is true for the DS, it hasn't seen the announced big RPGs yet too

[PS2Hawk]

I got DS free from inside deal & I think opening it was the worst thing I have done in my life. I hate it, so far ?I have Super Mario 64 DS & I dun really like the controls.
Other than that there is nothing decent to buy.......
I think Nintendo just rushed the DS due to PSP, & people thinking thayt DS will have as good games as GBA bought it.
I heard/read about Nintendogs, I feel safe to say that Nintendogs should not appeal to anyone over the age of 9, I mean you want to play & clean virtua Poo ?

[zmweasel]

I heard/read about Nintendogs, I feel safe to say that Nintendogs should not appeal to anyone over the age of 9, I mean you want to play & clean virtua Poo ?

The biggest-selling PC game of all time, The Sims, had you controlling the virtual body functions of your avatars. There's no question that Nintendogs is aimed at a younger audience than The Sims, but I don't think the poop-scooping aspect will turn off adults -- at least, the ones who own dogs.

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

Latest numbers for the week week ending May 1, 2005. DS continues to enjoy a comfortable lead in sales with 64,247 units, the PS2 and PSP trailing with 40,471 and 38,778 units, respectively.

Sony would spin these numbers by pointing out that despite the DS winning this week, the PSP is enjoying a comfortable lead in year-to-date sales.

And I still haven't seen DS sales figures for North America, although we'll all be hearing about 'em in a week.

-- Z.

[ubersaurus]

So I guess it's safe to say the DS will have the higher installed base in Japan for some time to come...

I wouldn't say that yet. Nintendo just has a good thing going right now because of Nintendogs. Honestly, 20,000 units is not that big of a deal. I think when Sony finally gets something Squarenix published, then we'll see a grossly larger PSP quantity sold.


I'm not gonna read through the whole topic, but I really don't believe that the DS is winning the "war" over the PSP, and I don't think that it ever will. I've owned both systems (currently own the PSP), and the PSP is quite a bit better IMO.

Um... Okay. That has no basis in any facts, but... Okay.

Depends...outside of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, and Dragon Quest, what exactly does Enix have that's a big seller?

My best input is that there's a hell of a lot more games on the DS that appeal to me compared to the PSP's announced list. I can see the new Castlevania selling really well.

[petewhitley]

Depends...outside of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, and Dragon Quest, what exactly does Enix have that's a big seller?

Notwithstanding the fact that Square/Enix has a vast stable of Japanese best-sellers, it wouldn't take much more than exclusive PSP versions of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and to a lesser-extent Kingdom Hearts to turn the tides on the user base in Japan.

[zmweasel]

Notwithstanding the fact that Square/Enix has a vast stable of Japanese best-sellers, it wouldn't take much more than exclusive PSP versions of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and to a lesser-extent Kingdom Hearts to turn the tides on the user base in Japan.

Here's what's selling for the PSP in Japan, according to Game Science:

Source: Game Science

Stat dates are from 12 Dec 04 - 11 April 05

Ranked by sales.

The table is platform, publisher, title, total

PSP Minna no Golf Portable SCE 337,972
PSP Ridge Racers Namco 274,682
PSP Shin Sangoku Musou Koei 268,514
PSP Tales of Eternia Namco 157,043
PSP Piposaru Academia SCE 108,599
PSP Metal Gear Acid Konami 99,871
PSP Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Daijiten Namco 98,109
PSP Gagharv Trilogy Bandai 89,202
PSP Doko Demo Issho SCE 86,255
PSP Mahjong Fight Club Konami 77,137
PSP Popolocrois Monotagari SCE 70,364
PSP Namco Museum Namco 61,895
PSP Armored Core: Formula Front From Software 58,288
PSP Bleach ~Heat the Soul~ SCE 52,140
PSP Puyo Puyo Fever Sega 49,345
PSP Sargetchu! P SCE 42,674
PSP Lumines Bandai 37,271
PSP Vampire Chronicles: The Chaos Tower Capcom 37,184
PSP Rengoku: The Tower Purgatory Bandai 36,424
PSP Need for Speed Underground Rivals EA 25,689
PSP Soukyuu no Fafner Bandai 25,622
PSP Mahjong Taikai Koei 15,264
PSP Mobile Train Simulator + Densha de Go! Onegakukan 12,861
PSP Puzzle Bobble Pocket Taito 11,943
PSP Sangokushi V Koei 9,910
PSP AI Shogi Marvelous Interactive 9,684
PSP Shinten Makai: GOCIV Another Side Idea Factory 9,534
PSP AI Mahjong Marvelous 8,649
PSP AI igo Marvelous 8,479
PSP Kollon Cyberfront 8,184
PSP Wipeout Pure SCE 5,772
PSP Harukanaru Toko no Naka de: Iroetebako Koei 1,559

As of April 11, PSP hardware sales stood at 1,168,173, resulting in a tie ratio of 1.88.

That's a horrible tie-in ratio, by the by. Less than two PSP games sold for every PSP unit sold does not put smiles on the faces of third-party publishers.

And it's always amusing to see the Japanese continue to reject American games. It doesn't matter if Microsoft buys the loyalty of every Japanese developer, 'cause the Japanese public will never buy an American console.

-- Z.

[ubersaurus]

I'd say that, for Japan at least, the biggest coup either the DS or PSP can do is get a new, exclusive Dragon Quest game.

US is a different story, but Japan, oh yeah.

[goatdan]

yeah, but the same is true for the DS, it hasn't seen the announced big RPGs yet too

Question -- Why did Square move on from Nintendo to start programming for the Playstation?

Answer - optical media.

I don't see that changing. Square may be playing nicer with Nintendo now, but it still isn't like the GameCube is the exclusive place to find Dragon Warrior now.


I heard/read about Nintendogs, I feel safe to say that Nintendogs should not appeal to anyone over the age of 9, I mean you want to play & clean virtua Poo ?

Hunh. Seaman seemed to do pretty well. Dogs seem to be pretty popular. And as Zach pointed out, the Sims is essentially the same thing as Nintendogs, just with people. Personally, I think that controlling a virtual dog would be really fun.

[geelw]

well, remember-- the U.S. of A. is getting "celebrity" dogs in its version, supposedly. if there's the option to "lose" paris hilton and her rug pisser under a truck (no, not nicole), nintendo's got my money LOL

maybe they can put a cute-looking dog-fighting game in there with wario as a referee. britney's bitbit vs. whatever the thin tramp above has named her dog this week. ready? BITE!

[hydr0x]

yeah, but the same is true for the DS, it hasn't seen the announced big RPGs yet too

Question -- Why did Square move on from Nintendo to start programming for the Playstation?

Answer - optical media.

I don't see that changing. Square may be playing nicer with Nintendo now, but it still isn't like the GameCube is the exclusive place to find Dragon Warrior now.


eeh where did i say Square Enix??? nowhere, there are already big RPGs announced for the DS and those will sell as much systems as the PSP rpgs, i have no doubt about that

for Square: "playing nicer"?? well, that's the right expression for the Gamecube line-up, yeah, but what can you expect, no third-party-publisher is going exclusive on the Gamecube anymore so why should they? but have you looked at the GBA line-up? or the DS announcements? Square is definitely doing more for the Nintendo handhelds than for the PSP, that's pretty obvious and recent news (some Square guy talking about online gaming) clearly show that too. For the future home consoles, it seems pretty sure that the Xbox 360 is not quite Squares favourite system but the other two seem to be getting the same support as it looks right now

@zach

wow, that ratio is indeed horrible, do you know the DS ratio?? i don't think it's too good either but i'd guess something like a 2.5-3.0

[zmweasel]

wow, that ratio is indeed horrible, do you know the DS ratio?? i don't think it's too good either but i'd guess something like a 2.5-3.0

I don't know DS hardware/software sales in Japan or North America off the top, and should look it up, but I'm being a lazy bastard. Nintendo and Sony should be sharing DS and PSP numbers next week at E3, though.

-- Z.

[SoulBlazer]

Some of my Japanese friends have told me they have enjoyed some 'American' games on the XBox once they gave it a chance.

So why can't Japan ever accept American games? We seem pretty tolerant to Japanese games over here. Do we need to remind them of how much more important our market is now?

[zmweasel]

So why can't Japan ever accept American games? We seem pretty tolerant to Japanese games over here. Do we need to remind them of how much more important our market is now?

We're tolerant of Japanese games, but we don't buy them hardly as much as we did in the NES era. Without Nintendo, Japanese-developed games would very rarely crack the NPD lists.

For example, the ten best-selling console games of 2004 in North America:

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2) - 5.1 million
2. Halo 2 (Xbox) - 4.2 million
3. Madden NFL 2005 (PS2) - 3.2 million
4. ESPN NFL 2K5 (PS2) - 1.5 million
5. Need for Speed Underground 2 (PS2) - 1.4 million
6. Pokémon FireRed (with adapter) (GBA) - 1.2 million
7. NBA Live 2005 (PS2) - 1.2 million
8. Spider-Man 2 (PS2) - 1.1 million
9. Halo: Combat Evolved (Xbox) - 1.1 million
10. ESPN NFL 2K5 (Xbox) - 1.0 million

I'm sure you can spot the Japanese game. :)

My crackpot theory: as games have become more realistic in appearance and approach, cultural oddities in Japanese-developed games have become more noticeable and off-putting to Americans. NES games were (and GBA games are)simple and cartoony enough to transcend boundaries, but not current-gen 3D titles. Americans prefer the gritty Splinter Cell to the quirky Metal Gear Solid.

-- Z.

[SoulBlazer]

Well, putting aside for moment the fact that some Japanese series DO do very well here in the States (such as Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, and Metroid), I was just curious as to why you said that Japanese gamers will never accept American designed games and consoles, even if they are games that the Japanese should eat up. :)

[zmweasel]

Well, putting aside for moment the fact that some Japanese series DO do very well here in the States (such as Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, and Metroid), I was just curious as to why you said that Japanese gamers will never accept American designed games and consoles, even if they are games that the Japanese should eat up. :)

FF7 did extremely well here, but Sony pushed the living hell out of it. Subsequent FFs didn't reach those insane heights in North America. (It's the same reason why Gran Turismo is so ginormous.)

As for Metroid, that's from Nintendo, previously mentioned as the exception to the rule. :)

As for MGS, it does better in Japan than Splinter Cell, while Splinter Cell does better here than in Japan, and that's entirely the cultural thing.

Look at the Japanese top ten for '04:

Dragon Quest VIII (Square Enix)
Pokemon FireRed & LeafGreen (Pokemon)
Dragon Quest V (Square Enix)
Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon)
World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami)
Samurai Warriors (Koei)
Jissen Pachi Slot Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken (Sammy)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Konami)
Gran Turismo 4 (Sony)
Derby Stallion 04 (Enterbrain)

Soccer, horse-racing, and pachinko games on the best-seller list? Only in Japan. And not a single US-developed game.

-- Z.

[geelw]

Well, putting aside for moment the fact that some Japanese series DO do very well here in the States (such as Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, and Metroid), I was just curious as to why you said that Japanese gamers will never accept American designed games and consoles, even if they are games that the Japanese should eat up. :)

simple: game design is a lot different in a number of areas. there are some american-style genres that did well in japan (hell, wizardry spin-offs kept a few companies busy for years even after the series rolled over here), but japanese gamers aren't big on the FPS genre, american sports (unless you slapped a slam dunk license on a nba game, lol) or nascar games, all huge sellers here. it could also be for sheer aesthetic/artistic reasons as well. there are plenty of japanes fans of american games, but definitely not enough to keep companies like microsoft afloat.

then again, the ms-x was an american-based machine that did pretty well (of course, all of the better games were made in japan, lol)...

g.

[hydr0x]

hah, the usual western vs. japanese issue :)

i don't see it happen in the next century that japanese will prefer "western" games

has anyone got an idea how much poverty there is in Japan and how well-educated the average Japanese is? i don't but the reason i'm asking is because after working in the software sales department of our store for quite a while i absolutely noticed that the higher the education the less the interest in the GTA/HALO/NfS type of games. Beware, i'm not saying those who play these games are stupid or anything (hell, i'm playing them too) but the average interest in them seems to be higher in the lower class

well, back to the actual thing i was replying too, the separation between western and japanese games is there, no doubt about it, there are fans of both styles in the US and EU and clearly more fans of the japanese style in Japan. And as i don't see that changing at all (in none of the regions) i have come to believe that in 2-3 generations we will be back to 2 systems on the market. One more for the japanese-style-fan and one more for the western-style-fan, and i honestly see MS vs. Nintendo being those two. MS is absolutely directed towards the western style (the 360 presentation showed this once again) and Nintendo has loads of Japanese games. Sony always was somewhere between (many people actually think Sony is a US company!) and this is probably going to kill them. A lot of people buy 2 systems anyway, so why bother with a system that can't decide for one direction if the other systems already deliver the best games of both directions?? and for the people just interested in one style one console would be enough as it delivers the games they want plus a couple of the other style if they want to play some of them too. I should save this and look what has happened in 15 years from now ;)

[zmweasel]

hMS is absolutely directed towards the western style (the 360 presentation showed this once again) and Nintendo has loads of Japanese games. Sony always was somewhere between (many people actually think Sony is a US company!) and this is probably going to kill them.

I would argue that Sony is in the best position of the Big Three because it's strong in Japan *and* North America, whereas MS and Nintendo are only competitive in one of the two regions. (I don't follow Europe as closely, but Sony is in the lead there, as well.)

-- Z.

[GarrettCRW]

A big part of the reason why US games don't float in Japan is the simple fact that many of those games seriously lack depth. *glares at Donkey Kong Country and the much-maligned US sports titles* My Japanese copy of Tecmo Super Bowl had a completed season saved when I received it-on COACH. While TSB has some pretty deep strategy for an NES game, the Coach mode was never used by anyone I knew-and it's arguably the mode that requires the most brain power. And that's the true difference between our cultures.

[zmweasel]

A big part of the reason why US games don't float in Japan is the simple fact that many of those games seriously lack depth. *glares at Donkey Kong Country and the much-maligned US sports titles* My Japanese copy of Tecmo Super Bowl had a completed season saved when I received it-on COACH. While TSB has some pretty deep strategy for an NES game, the Coach mode was never used by anyone I knew-and it's arguably the mode that requires the most brain power. And that's the true difference between our cultures.

Have you actually played a recent version of Madden or NFL2K? They're insanely, brain-bruisingly deep. TSB was "deep" for an NES game, but by modern standards, it's extremely primitive.

The only console-game genre more popular in Japan than America that I would term "deep" is role-playing--but that genre traces its roots to the earliest American RPGs for PCs (Ultima, Wizardry).

"Japanese players are smarter than American players" is a snobbish, easily debunked theory. It has much more to do with Japan's long history of xenophobia.

-- Z.

[slownerveaction]

A big part of the reason why US games don't float in Japan is the simple fact that many of those games seriously lack depth. *glares at Donkey Kong Country

DKC is definitely not a good example. Super Donkey Kong (as it was known in Japan) was a huge seller, as were the sequels and DK64.

[goatdan]

wow, that ratio is indeed horrible, do you know the DS ratio?? i don't think it's too good either but i'd guess something like a 2.5-3.0

I don't know DS hardware/software sales in Japan or North America off the top, and should look it up, but I'm being a lazy bastard. Nintendo and Sony should be sharing DS and PSP numbers next week at E3, though.

Last I heard, it was something like 2.3. Don't have a source on that, and I think that was end of year, so it could've changed drastically since then.

[zmweasel]

North American PSP and DS hardware sales for May are in, and the PSP destroyed the DS: 250k for the PSP, 57k for the DS.

An even more fascinating May sales stat: 223,000 GBA SPs sold.

-- Z.

[goatdan]

North American PSP and DS hardware sales for May are in, and the PSP destroyed the DS: 250k for the PSP, 57k for the DS.

An even more fascinating May sales stat: 223,000 GBA SPs sold.

That is quite impressive.

The DS needs to start getting games over here if they expect anyone to keep playing. I've seen so many of them used, it is amazing.

And about that GBA stat, I really don't get it. I guess consumers just decided they didn't need either the DS or the PSP and went with it? Anyone else have any reasons that might better explain that number?

[slownerveaction]

And about that GBA stat, I really don't get it. I guess consumers just decided they didn't need either the DS or the PSP and went with it? Anyone else have any reasons that might better explain that number?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007D4MVI.01._PE18_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Mayhem]

The DS needs to start getting games over here if they expect anyone to keep playing. I've seen so many of them used, it is amazing.

Whereas here, the complaint is the other way around. People are keeping and buying and playing their DS units, and many people who imported a PSP are hoping emulation saves it as a lot are considering selling theirs because there is a paucity of good games currently out.

[Mitch_Naz]

The DS will continue to go strong in Japan but they need to focus a little more on North America, which I feel they're lacking. We need more great games, like meteos and kirby and maybe more variety. Either way the DS is a great little system that I adore, and can't wait to see how this thing plays out online with many great games on their way like MP: Hunters, Mario Kart, and Nanostray.

[THATinkjar]

I'm not particularly surprised the Nintendo DS is winning this handheld war (or, at the very least, holding its own). I stumbled across this (http://www.jeux-france.com/affiche_forum_jeuxvideo_160008.html) forum thread which pretty much sums up why I haven't held out for a PSP.

[Lothars]

honestly I would rather have a PSP than a DS

nothing on the DS makes me go wow I need that, but that's really the same thing with the PSP

though it's just one of those things.

[neotokeo2001]

It says a lot when even the Official Playstation Magazine writes an article on the stagnation of the PSP.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3142637&did=1

The PSP can be turned around with some original software but it's just not happening. And don't tell me about Death Jr, It has been getting killed in the reviews. As the Nintendo numbers keep mounting the chance of original PSP games get dimmer. Looks like a steady diet of ports and remakes.
Here are the release list for both from August 15-30 as listed by EBGames. If you check the release list untill the end of the year it looks even worse for the PSP, Outside of GTA:Liberty City which will sell a ton of copies. That is unless you bought your high-priced PSP for over-priced movie watching. There is also rumored to be a DS $20 price drop in the next month. As for the homebrew/emulation scene, Get a GP32. It does everything and does it better.

EB Games August 15-30 release list PSP:
Coyote Ugly - Unrated Edition UMD
Rock, The UMD
Shaolin Soccer UMD
Frank Miller's Sin City UMD
Death Jr. (Game)
EVIL DEAD PSP UMD
GHOST IN THE SHELL UMD
Snatch UMD
Layer Cake UMD
Namco Museum Battle Collection (Game)
American Pie - Unrated Version UMD
Bourne Identity UMD
SAHARA UMD PSP

EB Games August 15-30 release list NDS:
Nintendogs: Lab & Friends
Nintendogs: Dachshund & Friends
Nintendogs: Chihuahua & Friends
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
PAC'N ROLL DS
YUGIOH NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR

Final thoughts on each:

PSP is getting 2 games. 11 UMD movies.

Death Jr.: Highly hyped original game that should be just what the PSP needs. Reviews are calling it mediocre at best.

Namco Museum Battle Collection: It looks cool, But they are the same games that Namco keeps packaging again and again. The graphic remakes look good.

UMD Movies: Not for me. I have a portable DVD player with a better screen and cheaper DVD versions of anything.

=======================================

DS is getting 4 games.(Nintendogs counts as 1 game)

Nintendogs: Not my kind of game, but it will sell better then anything else and also sell DS's.

Advance Wars: Dual Strike: A game that will also sell a few DS's. This is what portable gaming is all about.

PAC'N ROLL DS: Monkey Ball with Pac-Man and touch screen control. I have no idea about this one.

YUGIOH NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR: Another card game. I don't buy them but somebody must be.

[PS2Hawk]

I havn't touched my DS since Dec 2004. There are no games that intrest me. On the other hand I have 4 PSP games: Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Ridge Racer, Wipeout and Metal Gear Acid.

The PSP's screen is beautifull.

Can't wait for some decents games on DS.

[Griking]

I havn't touched my DS since Dec 2004. There are no games that intrest me. On the other hand I have 4 PSP games: Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Ridge Racer, Wipeout and Metal Gear Acid

4 Games, Wow, you almost have a complete collection then LOL

[dbiersdorf]

I havn't touched my DS since Dec 2004. There are no games that intrest me. On the other hand I have 4 PSP games: Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Ridge Racer, Wipeout and Metal Gear Acid.

The PSP's screen is beautifull.

Can't wait for some decents games on DS.

Kirby? Meteos?

[JJNova]

Kirby? Meteos?

Kirby is such a damn good game that I will be comparing all following purchases to the entertainment, control, learning curve, difficulty and pure pleasure associated with this title. I was definitely not expecting what I got out of it. Kirby Canvas Curse may just as well become one of those titles that we all had wanted to play, but didn't, only to hear about how good it was.

Of course, it's a first party game, so you may have an eternity to decide if you want to play it or not. Just heed my words, the game is magnificent near the end.

EDIT: 2nd Party game actually?

[PS2Hawk]

Kirby and Meteors are kiddy crap to me.

I want Mario and Luigi 2, and may be another RPG or 2

[neotokeo2001]

Kirby and Meteors are kiddy crap to me.

I want Mario and Luigi 2, and may be another RPG or 2

Kirby and Meteors are kiddy crap, Because of the graphics?

Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga 2 is about as kiddie as you can get, graphics wise. I also can't wait for a real RPG to come out for the DS. If Superstar Saga 2 is even a shade of the original I'll be happy.

Any news on the Final Fantasy remakes?

[davepesc]

And about that GBA stat, I really don't get it. I guess consumers just decided they didn't need either the DS or the PSP and went with it? Anyone else have any reasons that might better explain that number?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007D4MVI.01._PE18_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

If this is true, N needs to hype that backwards compatibility thing a lot more.

[njiska]

Kirby and Meteors are kiddy crap to me.

I want Mario and Luigi 2, and may be another RPG or 2

Hahaha, hahahaha, hahahahahaha. Damn boy you nearly made me die laughing. I mean talk about the pot and the fucking kettle. Kirby is designed for a younger audience but for a self proclaimed gameplay man like yourself i'd think you'd be willing to look past the graphics and story and see the amazing gameplay underneath. More so, how is meteos a kiddie game? Because the story has a Katamari Damacy level of oddity? Seriously, it's a block matching game, just like every other puzzle game on the planet. It's for EVERYONE.

Mario and Luigi 2 is no different. It's graphics and a story that all ages can enjoy and good gameplay. I fail to see your problem.