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THATinkjar
04-29-2005, 04:10 PM
I don't like polls :)

I was giving some thought over lunch today as to what the hardest system is to collect for. And I'm talking about collecting in the year 2005.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest it is the N64. The N64 seems to be in the hands of people not willing to sell and, of the people who are willing to sell, people who are of a generation who don't look after their games. And what's worse, the N64 carried the cardboard boxes on which, lets be fair, is a collector's nightmare!

What I primarily find for the N64 is either loose carts of common games, badly conditioned boxes with tatty manuals or unbelievably over-priced completes which are far from mint.

I have never seen this for any other system.

Lemmy Kilmister
04-29-2005, 04:22 PM
Simple. The Neo Geo AES.

max 330 mega
04-29-2005, 04:29 PM
id also agree on both n64 and the AES. other than that possibly gameboy for the fact of the sheer number of titles and the fact that no one ever kept the boxes??

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Possibly SG-1000/SC-3000...in my view. Hard to find stuff and when you do the boxes aren't often in great shape.

undead455
04-29-2005, 04:37 PM
Other than the AES for me it would be the Tg-16, I have only found things once in the wild and eBay is overpriced. :/

WanganRunner
04-29-2005, 04:39 PM
1st Place: Super A'Can. Good luck finding anything for that system...

2nd Place: Zemmix. See above, only slightly less so.

3rd Place: Wataru Supervision. Stuff is out there, but just *try* and make a complete collection.

I like N64 collecting, but I'm a patient guy. It helps that I'm extremely fond of the system. I also could care less about N64 boxes, but I want manuals. I just put all my non-sealed games into those Nintendo plastic boxes, and they all look t3h pimp.

s1lence
04-29-2005, 04:39 PM
The AES is hardest to collect. My APF MP1000 is hard to collect for as well, but the games are cheaper then the neogeo.

Lemmy Kilmister
04-29-2005, 04:43 PM
1st Place: Super A'Can. Good luck finding anything for that system...

2nd Place: Zemmix. See above, only slightly less so.

3rd Place: Wataru Supervision. Stuff is out there, but just *try* and make a complete collection.


That's true. Collecting for the AES is more expensive then rare really (not that there isn't rare shit of course, but you know).

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 04:46 PM
1st Place: Super A'Can. Good luck finding anything for that system...

2nd Place: Zemmix. See above, only slightly less so.

3rd Place: Wataru Supervision. Stuff is out there, but just *try* and make a complete collection.
I'd heard that Super A'Can stuff was being dumped a while back...I sure can't find anything for it, however. Zemmix...I think I've seen the base computer recently. I don't think it's anything very special.

Lemmy Kilmister
04-29-2005, 04:48 PM
Zemmix...I think I've seen the base computer recently. I don't think it's anything very special.

Doesn't the Zemmix run typical MSX games to begin with? I think it's more about finding the actually system itself then the software.

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 04:49 PM
It's like an MSX computer, but I believe the carts are shaped differently.

Also...there was that PV-1000 (or was it 2000?) Casio system - that doesn't show up often!

Queen Of The Felines
04-29-2005, 04:51 PM
Adventurevision or an entire PlayStation collection, variations and all. Not even Dangerboy has accomplished that yet. ;)

Kristine

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 04:59 PM
Adventurevision or an entire PlayStation collection, variations and all. Not even Dangerboy has accomplished that yet. ;)
I'm pretty sure complete PlayStation wouldn't be harder than complete Famicom, if you considering all the crazy peripherals and such made.

anagrama
04-29-2005, 05:19 PM
As in hardest to get a complete collection for? Atari 2600, without a doubt.

motley6
04-29-2005, 05:25 PM
I would say as far as US consoles go the Amiga CD32 and its games are extremely difficult to find wild and not much better on ebay. Luckily since it is not a popular system, rarity and expense don not go hand in hand here.

The Halcyon and other laserdisc consoles (excluding laseractive. although some games are tough to find) are the most difficult to find internationally.

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 05:29 PM
That reminds me - Palcom PX-7, I suppose technically a computer (but so is the Zemmix) but hard as heck to find games for (though I have seen two copies on eBay within the past six months of certain titles, as two people sold fair collections on eBay in that time - amazingly, the latest seller had Badlands among their selection and said all the games were dupes!!)

jajaja
04-29-2005, 05:41 PM
Yep, Neo Geo AES is the hardest. You will never get a 100% complete collection. Only possible in theory :)
The same goes for alot of consoles acctualy, they who are mentioned earlier, "unknown" sysmtes.

rbudrick
04-29-2005, 05:53 PM
Sorry folks, all those are incorrect. The hardest systems to collect for are R-Zone and Game.com.

It hurts! It hurts so much to collect those damn games. The horror! LOL

-Rob

hydr0x
04-29-2005, 05:56 PM
Yep, Neo Geo AES is the hardest. You will never get a 100% complete collection. Only possible in theory :)
The same goes for alot of consoles acctualy, they who are mentioned earlier, "unknown" sysmtes.

if you're only collecting domestic US releases than Atari 2600 is more difficult than Neo Geo, there is no AES game nearly as rare as the top5 VCS games in the US, if you count in Kizuna and Ultimate 11 (PAL) then that of course changes this a bit, although you might be able to get those as long as you want to spend 10k each

nate1749
04-29-2005, 05:57 PM
For a loose collection I would pick ps1 just based on the sheer quantity of games. I'm glad I don't care about all those cardboard boxes, you collectors must be driven crazy sometimes!

Nate

jajaja
04-29-2005, 05:57 PM
Yep, Neo Geo AES is the hardest. You will never get a 100% complete collection. Only possible in theory :)
The same goes for alot of consoles acctualy, they who are mentioned earlier, "unknown" sysmtes.

if you're only collecting domestic US releases than Atari 2600 is more difficult than Neo Geo, there is no AES game nearly as rare as the top5 VCS games in the US, if you count in Kizuna and Ultimate 11 (PAL) then that of course changes this a bit, although you might be able to get those as long as you want to spend 10k each

Might be, but id say both is so to say impossible then :)

anagrama
04-29-2005, 06:01 PM
Might be, but id say both is so to say impossible then :)

Complete Neo Geo collections exist. Complete 2600 collections don't.

jajaja
04-29-2005, 06:05 PM
Might be, but id say both is so to say impossible then :)

Complete Neo Geo collections exist. Complete 2600 collections don't.

Even with Kizuna Encounter EURO? damn..
Well.. there are alot of ppl on this earth so someone might have a complete 2600 collection.

dbiersdorf
04-29-2005, 06:06 PM
Even though I think a lot of collections are hard to get, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the Virtual Boy. To get all the accessories, and all the rare games are exspensive as hell.

machine.slave
04-29-2005, 06:07 PM
Hmmm... I'm going to say Adventurevision.

s1lence
04-29-2005, 06:16 PM
I forgot all about Adventurevision, thats got to be one of the hardest.

shoes23
04-29-2005, 06:19 PM
Beleive it or not, I come from the Nintendo homeland. Here in South Dakota nothing but Nintendo's, so much as I've only played a Genesis maybe a dozen times and have yet to see one anywhere in the wild. The local pawn shops contain one and only one Genesis game...Sonic 2 (I bought it, now to just find a console to play it on). Hands down Genesis is the toughest system to collect for here in wild.

anagrama
04-29-2005, 06:40 PM
nm

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 07:07 PM
Hands down Genesis is the toughest system to collect for here in wild.
What about Atari 2600? I've found a grand total of one Atari 2600 cart (and a few Sega CD games...hmm, no CD-i)

Uzi 9mm
04-29-2005, 07:16 PM
I would probably go with Neo-Geo or Atari 2600. I am not crazy enough to even consider buying a Neo-Geo AES, I know how collecting those things can cost you tons of cash...

AlexKidd
04-29-2005, 07:24 PM
As for finding games in the wild,turbo grafx and AES have been hard for me. And for a complete collection Atari 2600 seems to be the hardest.

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 07:30 PM
Woohoo, whoever said SNES was easy? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8186635154&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT) Nice thing is...that's not too bad to find an R7 that kicks, ass sealed (the problem being the whole "sealed" business)!

The_EniGma
04-29-2005, 07:32 PM
Here its region to region... I must say ive only ever seen 1 nes cart in the wild... :/

Although i'd say AES/MVS neogeo systems are hard to collect for due to the shear prices.

Trevor Belmont
04-29-2005, 08:04 PM
I suppose it depends on what "hardest" refers to. Price wise? The AES, I'm sure. That system flat out scares me when I see some of the prices on one game, let alone the entire collection.

As far as rarity goes? I have no idea. I wasn't aware that getting a complete Atari 2600 collection was pretty much impossible. Why is that?

I personally think the Saturn is pretty difficult with the amount of Japanese titles it has. Amount wise though, I'm sure systems like the Famicom and PC Engine/PC Engine Duo might be tough, since they have so many games released for them.

Slipdeath
04-29-2005, 08:08 PM
Complete US NGPC is no walk in the park either. The games are near impossible to find in the wild, and when you do it's usually a loose sonic or something. Ebay is completely flooded with wholesalers, and when complete copies to pop up the prices are usually not to low.

TurboGenesis
04-29-2005, 08:16 PM
When it comes to cost then I'd have to go with the Neo Geo AES. For library size I'd say the Playstation. For rarity I don't know but it seems that 2600 stuff is really difficult to find the rare stuff.

Now for obscure...I have had a Bandai Pippin @world for like over a year and cannot seem to locate a US title for this thing. If I could find them well it would be easy since there are only 16 titles.

fishsandwich
04-29-2005, 10:06 PM
1st Place: Super A'Can. Good luck finding anything for that system...

2nd Place: Zemmix. See above, only slightly less so.

3rd Place: Wataru Supervision. Stuff is out there, but just *try* and make a complete collection.

I like N64 collecting, but I'm a patient guy. It helps that I'm extremely fond of the system. I also could care less about N64 boxes, but I want manuals. I just put all my non-sealed games into those Nintendo plastic boxes, and they all look t3h pimp.

COULD'NT care less! COULD NOT! To say that you could care less implies that you care!

Sorry... too much beer.

:embarrassed:

fishsandwich
04-29-2005, 10:11 PM
id also agree on both n64 and the AES. other than that possibly gameboy for the fact of the sheer number of titles and the fact that no one ever kept the boxes??

N64? Seriously?

NAH

AFGiant
04-29-2005, 10:52 PM
I have yet to find a single cd-i game in the wild. Or a 3DO. Or a turbografx/pc-engine, whatever. Or an intellivision. Or a neo-geo, game.com, virtual boy, commodore 64, fm towns marty, game & watch, jaguar, laseractive, odyssey, vectrex, or wonderswan game. I have never found an atari system, but I have found some games which I purchased. I have found 3 total SMS games, and 11 total saturn games. 1 total sega cd game. Its pretty hard to find anything odd around here.

On the plus side, there is always a plentiful selection of NES, SNES, genny, dc, psx, n64, gbc, and on up around. Its just that the obscure didn't really make it around here. Either that or someone picked the place dry before I even started collecting.

Lemmy Kilmister
04-29-2005, 10:54 PM
I have yet to find a pc-engine, fm towns marty, wonderswan game.

Maybe because those are import only systems? :hmm: ;)

Ed Oscuro
04-29-2005, 10:55 PM
fm towns marty
Me neither...hmm

I honestly haven't found anything on that list, gas costs too much even though Goodwill is right down the street LOL

rick weis
04-29-2005, 11:05 PM
I wasn't aware that getting a complete Atari 2600 collection was pretty much impossible. Why is that?



no atari 2600 collector was a complete NTSC boxed collection! it is possible, and will happen this decade. i bet :D if you're talking NTSC and PAL no one will EVER have a complete boxed collection!! just way too many games out there. i would guess 5000 but finding them complete (boxed) is the key.

Rick

Cthulhu
04-29-2005, 11:13 PM
The things that are the hardest to collect for are generally going to be old foreign systems. In the US, old Japanese computer systems (X68k, MSX, MSX-2, PC-8801, et) are nearly impossible to come by. The borderline-console stuff like the FM-Towns, Marty, etc are also hard to find, but there aren't many games for them.

I'm willing to be that a lot of the Brazillian Sega Master System games are hard to find too... I can't imagine they were produced in large quantities.

hydr0x
04-30-2005, 03:42 AM
Woohoo, whoever said SNES was easy? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8186635154&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT) Nice thing is...that's not too bad to find an R7 that kicks, ass sealed (the problem being the whole "sealed" business)!

i wouldn't call SNES easy to collect (ask Darth Vader about it!), it has a few games that are really hard to get complete (not Atari 2600 hard of course) and there's a lot of games too, plus it's a cardboard-box system. Sure, if you don't mind how much you pay for the games and can wait some time you are guaranteed to complete this collection, but boy does it take a lot of work and buying the same game over and over just to get a manual in good shape LOL . There are definitely much harder systems to collect for, but a lot of easier ones too, and it's one of the prettiest and best show-off collection imho

Tron 2.0
04-30-2005, 04:58 AM
Here its region to region... I must say ive only ever seen 1 nes cart in the wild... :/

Although i'd say AES/MVS neogeo systems are hard to collect for due to the shear prices.
Uhh MVS hard i doubt it, it's prices are still... dirt cheap compare to AES.

I never had to spend ($300.00 or a $1000.00) to get what i want on MVS.

Only time MVS adds up in price is when, it's a complete kit.Now for... loose carts there is a lot to 'chose from that's under $100.00 8-)

Here's what i think that are hard to collect.

FM Town Marty it's price factor.
TG16 hardly found in the wild any more.
MSX seems ebay only.
Saturn a lot of imports to collect for it.
Atari 2600 some games still hold value.

devilman
04-30-2005, 05:05 AM
If you consider how many titles there were for something like the Spectrum (an idea of quantity here (http://www.worldofspectrum.org/archive.html)), that would certainly be impossible to get a complete collection, but for sheer cost, an AES collection would have to take the prize.

For general collecting, CD32 stuff seems to be getting harder to find these days (at a decent price anyway) along with GX4000 stuff too.

jajaja
04-30-2005, 07:54 AM
Seems that alot mention to get a complete collection for a system. In this case its basicly all systems. To get a complete collection is very hard because there are so to say allways some games that are very hard to find for each system.

goatdan
04-30-2005, 08:54 AM
Either the AES due to cost or the Super A'Can due to the fact that probably less than 20 people on this board even know what I'm talking about right now.

By the way, I'm trying to collect for the A'Can right now :D In three years, I have found one game.

stuffedmonkey
04-30-2005, 09:44 AM
I would say my hardest to collect for would be the Turbografx... I NEVER see them in the wild - even when I go to the area niche shops. We have a 3 store chain called Starland (retail arm of the estarland web site) - they have 2600, sega master system, sega cd, saturn, everything except TG16. The only way I've been able to get games at a decnet price is to lurk around the new listings secion of ebay - and find someone with a way too low buy-it -now.

N64 - I can walk into any store and find 20 loose games. They might not be in the best condition or be common sports games, but at least they exist.

SlayerOfFurbies
04-30-2005, 10:10 AM
the last 12 titles i need to complete the US master system collection. LOL


I haven't found a new title in over 6 months

Great Hierophant
04-30-2005, 10:34 AM
If you want difficult, try collecting game software for any computer system. That will drive you truly insane. Half of it doesn't work, the other half is so obscure even its existence may come as a surprise. Try collecting every release of every game (including compliations) to come out for the PC with boxes (if they exist), all inserts and working media. I tell you it cannot be done.

James
04-30-2005, 10:50 AM
As in hardest to get a complete collection for? Atari 2600, without a doubt.

I agree, I've never seen any complete games in the wild and the fact that there are 20 - 50 different versions of each game released that are all vastly different in some way makes it all the harder and 80%+ of those have scaritys or 7+ so anyone other than a very large museum who has a complete collection is some kind of god.

Otherwise I'm going with the GameBoy followed by the AES both for all regions, revisions and languages.

GrandAmChandler
04-30-2005, 10:56 AM
TRS-80? Anyone have a complete collection? If so I'd LOVE to see it.... Assuming you had unlimited funds, the US AES collection is doable. But then again, for the right price, any collection is doable.

video_game_addict
04-30-2005, 12:10 PM
So let's see we have hard to collect because:

becuase it's expensive (AES, Adventurevision)

becuase it's so HUGE! (Playstation, Famicom, PCE, Atari 2600, Gameboy, various computer lines)

because it was never domestic to you (US posters listing JAP & PAL platforms & rarities)

becuase it is hard to find complete in package (TG-16, 2600, various Nintendo)

becuase it's hard to find locally (AES, TG16, 2600, CD32, 3DO, CD-i, etc.) Most of these can be easily bought off ebay & other online sources. So really these are not hard to collect, but maybe hard to complete.

becuase it's hard to find period (Super A'Can, 2600 & Colecovision rarities, other obscure platforms) This one could be a long list, maybe if only for a few games on each system, but again, with ebay you can collect anything, but to complete it would take a long time on some items. I'd imagine you could look for years and not complete some collections, even with a big paycheck.



First I think before you can pick, you need to define what excatly a complete collection would consist of.

All original packaging?

All variations & compilation packs?

All unique foreign releases?

All domestic & foreign releases?

All known demo carts, protos, etc.

All homemade, homebrew, repoed, aftermarket games


If you have money most anything can be acquired. It may take time still, until all releases come up for auction. But it can be done.

It's all those extras that take the extra time. A complete US 32X collection is a breeze. A few rares, but nothing too bad. Throw in the 3 imports & then you might be searching for a couple years longer or more, and most likely doubling the cost of your collection.

Virtual Boy is the same way, a complete US collection isn't very bad, but those Jap releases are what kills people. Some people aren't willing to spend the $500-1000 per game on those imports to add to the collection. But they are out there too, available given the money is there to spend.

Computer stuff, there's alot of, tons of actually, that's some hard collecting, and probably one that will never be completed. The older & more obscure patfroms are also gonna be difficult to collect for, or complete.

Something like the N64 should be a breeze. If you don't use ebay, then maybe it will take awhile, but these games are all over, in used game stores, EB, Gamestop, etc, still in close out in some stores like TRU, plus all over now turning up in Thrift stores, & pawns shopes, at yardsales, flea markets, everywhere. Maybe getting them complete in the box is tuff, but over time locally it can be done, or just hit epay. You could be putting the wraps on a complete N64 collection in no time thru ebay!

sharp
04-30-2005, 01:37 PM
As for the Neo Geo AES, it's really about the bucks. If you have the money you can get every game, even Kizuna and Ultimate 11. About MVS you can see it two ways, to get all the carts is perfectly possible,even though there are a few hard to find carts (Samurai Shodown Zero Special and V-Liner), but to get a complete collection of MVS-kits is also damn hard.

The Neo Geo Pocket is not that hard, although a few Japanese games are damn hard to find, just like some of the English B/W games.

For the rest I don't really know. I also collect Sega stuff and Game Gear can also be hard to find if you want the complete.

Oh and CD-I is no problem in the Netherlands, as it had decent sales here.

XxMe2NiKxX
04-30-2005, 01:48 PM
PC. 15,000 games and an ever-growing supply of prehipials.

But, for the system that counts, genesis. Nothing on it is particularilly impossible to find, it's just that everyone is trying to make money off of every little cart, particularilly ones that should be common, and every supplier seems to only carry the same set of common games no matter where you are.

imanerd0011
04-30-2005, 02:20 PM
I don't think some of these obscure systems should even count. Some people were listing systems I have never even heard of, let alone seen one in real life.
I think that the 2600 is the hardest to collect for. Mainly because there are so many games, and alot of rares as well. A Complete NES collection would be pretty damn hard to get as well. And NEO GEO is an obvious choice, just based on the price of the games alone.

AFGiant
04-30-2005, 02:20 PM
I have yet to find a pc-engine, fm towns marty, wonderswan game.

Maybe because those are import only systems? :hmm: ;)



fm towns marty
Me neither...hmm

I honestly haven't found anything on that list, gas costs too much even though Goodwill is right down the street LOL

LOL I know I know. I've seen some people here on DP find some pretty crazzzzyy stuff in pawn shops though. And actually I was browsing the online rarity guide at the time and I was like "hey! fm towns! I recognize that! Why not throw that on the list just to prove my point?"

In retrospect, it just made me look like an idiot ;)

RetroYoungen
04-30-2005, 02:49 PM
Complete US NGPC is no walk in the park either. The games are near impossible to find in the wild, and when you do it's usually a loose sonic or something. Ebay is completely flooded with wholesalers, and when complete copies to pop up the prices are usually not to low.

I second that. I've found a grand total of three NGPC games and one system in the wild, I picked up the single game I found that I didn't have already, I even had the same color system, and absolutely NO boxes or manuals. Good thing the games themselves weren't all that pricey.

But I'd have to say the hardest system to collect for is the Bandai Pippin Atmark, as I've never seen anything for it even in person, let alone had an opportunity to buy anything for it. I've seen pictures though, and that's it.

James
04-30-2005, 02:51 PM
Anybody collect really rare unique employee only and contestant giveaways like the gold RockMan IV cart where only 6 or so were every made and they go for like 700,000 Yen or something ridiculous like that? Also all that other Nintendo and Sega freebie stuff that they gave away in Japan or things like the N64 DD which was subsrciption based? Anyone collect this stuff?

sabre2922
04-30-2005, 10:40 PM
Turbographix-16: I have seen only ONE system in last 7 years in my area. no games at all since I sold my second turbo back in '95 :(

Saturn seems to be more and more difficult to find also games and systems

Dr. Morbis
04-30-2005, 11:39 PM
Turbographix-16: I have seen only ONE system in last 7 years in my area. no games at all since I sold my second turbo back in '95 :(

Saturn seems to be more and more difficult to find also games and systems
I agree with TG16. Not counting the ultra obscure consoles the TG16 is the biggest bitch to collect for. I've seen one console and 2 games in the wild in 6 years. eBay is my only option but most of the games are overpriced unless it's just a loose hucard (who wants that?). The TG16 is like the Neo Geo's little brother.

The_Chosen_One
04-30-2005, 11:47 PM
Complete US NGPC is no walk in the park either. The games are near impossible to find in the wild, and when you do it's usually a loose sonic or something. Ebay is completely flooded with wholesalers, and when complete copies to pop up the prices are usually not to low.

I second that. I've found a grand total of three NGPC games and one system in the wild, I picked up the single game I found that I didn't have already, I even had the same color system, and absolutely NO boxes or manuals. Good thing the games themselves weren't all that pricey.

I've had a complete US NGPC collection for a while and never thought it that tough. It is a rather small collection as well. I found about half of it in the wild and the rest online. Maybe it's just the region your in? Granted it didn't sell to well, but still... Even now I could go pick up 4 or 5 games locally for around 10~15 each. Complete of course. The real diffiuculty is the US NGPC hardcases. I have yet to get one (someone sell me some :) ) but prior to the Pocket's release in stores here in the US, SNK was selling direct from their site, the only difference was the games (some of them at least) were in the clamshells like the UK and some Jap releases got. The only way you could tell they were US was because of the ESRB ratings.

As for the AES I wouldn't say it's just the price, granted that is a huge factor but for Euro Releases some are incredibly difficult to find. Saying that if you had the money you could get a English Kizuna Encounter isn't really true. With so few copies out there and what 1 up for sale on Ebay that I've ever seen. Just like other systems it's not just about having the money it's being able to locate the game. The difference is the amount of money needed for the Neo is much, much higher.

James
05-01-2005, 07:28 PM
Complete US NGPC is no walk in the park either. The games are near impossible to find in the wild, and when you do it's usually a loose sonic or something. Ebay is completely flooded with wholesalers, and when complete copies to pop up the prices are usually not to low.

I second that. I've found a grand total of three NGPC games and one system in the wild, I picked up the single game I found that I didn't have already, I even had the same color system, and absolutely NO boxes or manuals. Good thing the games themselves weren't all that pricey.

I've had a complete US NGPC collection for a while and never thought it that tough. It is a rather small collection as well. I found about half of it in the wild and the rest online. Maybe it's just the region your in? Granted it didn't sell to well, but still... Even now I could go pick up 4 or 5 games locally for around 10~15 each. Complete of course. The real diffiuculty is the US NGPC hardcases. I have yet to get one (someone sell me some :) ) but prior to the Pocket's release in stores here in the US, SNK was selling direct from their site, the only difference was the games (some of them at least) were in the clamshells like the UK and some Jap releases got. The only way you could tell they were US was because of the ESRB ratings.

As for the AES I wouldn't say it's just the price, granted that is a huge factor but for Euro Releases some are incredibly difficult to find. Saying that if you had the money you could get a English Kizuna Encounter isn't really true. With so few copies out there and what 1 up for sale on Ebay that I've ever seen. Just like other systems it's not just about having the money it's being able to locate the game. The difference is the amount of money needed for the Neo is much, much higher.

Are you talking about the ones that came with a NGPC Handheld which included 6 games and sold for about $100 or so? Because that came with 6 games in clamshell GameBoy like cases and there are lots of those in my area.

fishsandwich
05-01-2005, 07:39 PM
Complete US NGPC is no walk in the park either. The games are near impossible to find in the wild, and when you do it's usually a loose sonic or something. Ebay is completely flooded with wholesalers, and when complete copies to pop up the prices are usually not to low.

I second that. I've found a grand total of three NGPC games and one system in the wild, I picked up the single game I found that I didn't have already, I even had the same color system, and absolutely NO boxes or manuals. Good thing the games themselves weren't all that pricey.

I've had a complete US NGPC collection for a while and never thought it that tough. It is a rather small collection as well. I found about half of it in the wild and the rest online. Maybe it's just the region your in? Granted it didn't sell to well, but still... Even now I could go pick up 4 or 5 games locally for around 10~15 each. Complete of course. The real diffiuculty is the US NGPC hardcases. I have yet to get one (someone sell me some :) ) but prior to the Pocket's release in stores here in the US, SNK was selling direct from their site, the only difference was the games (some of them at least) were in the clamshells like the UK and some Jap releases got. The only way you could tell they were US was because of the ESRB ratings.

As for the AES I wouldn't say it's just the price, granted that is a huge factor but for Euro Releases some are incredibly difficult to find. Saying that if you had the money you could get a English Kizuna Encounter isn't really true. With so few copies out there and what 1 up for sale on Ebay that I've ever seen. Just like other systems it's not just about having the money it's being able to locate the game. The difference is the amount of money needed for the Neo is much, much higher.

Are you talking about the ones that came with a NGPC Handheld which included 6 games and sold for about $100 or so? Because that came with 6 games in clamshell GameBoy like cases and there are lots of those in my area.

I have yet to find a US clamshell... I thought I had a couple, but it turned out they were UK versions that were just from US sellers on epay.

That being said, I don't think a complete collection of US boxed NGPC games would be that hard to get... if you don't mind doing all your shopping online AND Don't mind digging though TONS of loose carts of epay.

Gag

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goatdan
05-01-2005, 08:38 PM
I have yet to find a US clamshell... I thought I had a couple, but it turned out they were UK versions that were just from US sellers on epay.

That being said, I don't think a complete collection of US boxed NGPC games would be that hard to get... if you don't mind doing all your shopping online AND Don't mind digging though TONS of loose carts of epay.

I guess it all depends on what you would consider a "complete" set. A bunch of the US carts that were released for the system never had US boxes. They were all released when those 6-packs came out.