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joshnickerson
05-04-2005, 05:58 PM
Didn't see this mentioned here... apparently the new issue of "Play" has an article confirming a second Sonic Collection for the Gamecube called "Sonic Gems Collection", and it's supposed to include Sonic CD and Sonic Fighter.
Anyone else heard about this? I don't have Play magazine myself, but apparently the news was leaked to Gamesarefun.com.
Cirrus
05-04-2005, 06:07 PM
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/728/gems1po.jpg
Well, I've found that, but that could be anything. Apparently the trademark is registered, but there is no word on what it will include. :(
slip81
05-04-2005, 06:51 PM
Searches on IGN and Gamespot turned up nothing. I'll have to check the latest issue of Play tomorrow maybe.
I hope its true, I would loved to have a collection with Sonic CD on it.
MegaDrive20XX
05-04-2005, 06:56 PM
Yeah we got confirmation of that from that May issue of Play magazine (it has Death Jr. on the cover and should already be available any place where they have a good selection of gaming magazines). There's no pictures or anything. But Play magazine is a very reliable source I heard.
GaijinPunch
05-04-2005, 07:49 PM
Too bad it will look like shit. GC can't display low-res unless you modify the D-video cable, and even then, it's probably iffy.
Zadoc
05-04-2005, 08:56 PM
Hopefully it'll come to Xbox and PS2.
GaijinPunch
05-04-2005, 10:57 PM
Hopefully it'll come to Xbox and PS2.
Xbox can't display Low Res either.
Crush Crawfish
05-04-2005, 11:01 PM
Wow, this is great news! It's about damn time we got Sonic CD on a collection...I wonder if they'll give us an option to switch between the japanese or US soundtracks. Probably not, but it'd be nice. I wonder what else will be on it?
Raccoon Lad
05-04-2005, 11:17 PM
They should put the Sonic arcade game on the compilation.
They may have to make some gameplay adjustments for lack of a trackball, but it'd be the first time many people will ever see that game.
Jorpho
05-04-2005, 11:25 PM
They should put the Sonic arcade game on the compilation.
They may have to make some gameplay adjustments for lack of a trackball, but it'd be the first time many people will ever see that game.
The only way to play it presently is the rather vacant prototype in MAME, right?
kainemaxwell
05-04-2005, 11:28 PM
Wow, this is great news! It's about damn time we got Sonic CD on a collection...I wonder if they'll give us an option to switch between the japanese or US soundtracks. Probably not, but it'd be nice. I wonder what else will be on it?
Awsome news! Is there a big difference between the 2 game soundtracks, other then the language of "Sonic Boom"?
InsaneDavid
05-05-2005, 01:00 AM
They should put the Sonic arcade game on the compilation.
They may have to make some gameplay adjustments for lack of a trackball, but it'd be the first time many people will ever see that game.
The only way to play it presently is the rather vacant prototype in MAME, right?
Pretty sure, although this is one of those games like Marble Madness that's really only fun with a trackball.
Cirrus
05-05-2005, 01:11 AM
Hopefully it'll come to Xbox and PS2.
Xbox can't display Low Res either.
I have tons of old school emulators on the xbox, and everything looks great? Doesn't that count as low res?
Jorpho
05-05-2005, 01:14 AM
Awsome news! Is there a big difference between the 2 game soundtracks, other then the language of "Sonic Boom"?
Language? Oh no, the Japanese theme music is entirely different (and in a way much more disturbing) than Pastiche's memorable tune. It's more of a rap than anything else.
The music for all the other stages is only the same for the "past" tunes. The Japanese version used remixes of the "past" tracks for the present and good future/bad future tunes. I think that also means that they're all FM music instead of redbook audio.
Language? Oh no, the Japanese theme music is entirely different (and in a way much more disturbing) than Pastiche's memorable tune. It's more of a rap than anything else.
I have the "Sonic 10th Anniversary" CD with two of those rap songs on there. Some like to talk about how much better the Japanese soundtrack is. After listening to these, I can only suggest they clean out their ears.
THATinkjar
05-05-2005, 04:46 AM
There had better be more than a couple of new games. I got the Cube version and the Xbox release, I'm *not* getting a third!
Okay, I give in, I'll buy it.
Amy Rose
05-05-2005, 05:24 AM
AAARRRGHHH WHAT ABOUT KNUCKLES CHAOTIX?????
While the Sonic CD is great news (I've got a Japanese version at the moment that isn't exactly legit, but it's so imposible to find a copy! Soon, my sweet...) and Sonic The Fighters makes me go "squee!" WHY NO KNUCKLES CHAOTIX?
Hehe, I love the stupid raps on the Jap version of Sonic CD. They're so... peppy. "Extraordinary things can happen if yoooou believe in yourseeellllfffff, you've gotta have some faith in yourself if you want respect from your friiiiiiends!" LOL
Oh, and I'll buy this, just like I bought the first one even though I already had like, all of the games except one. <3 Sega, <3 Sonic.
jajaja
05-05-2005, 06:42 AM
Hopefully it'll come to Xbox and PS2.
Xbox can't display Low Res either.
What you mean? There are alot of EMUs that work fine with xbox so it can display lowres.
EDIT: already mentioned i see now hehe
sharp
05-05-2005, 08:02 AM
I hope it's true and if so that Sonic CD will contain both Japanese and wetsern soundtracks. But first I would like to see some more proof. (He and if yes I hope they add Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic R as well)
klausien
05-05-2005, 08:15 AM
Language? Oh no, the Japanese theme music is entirely different (and in a way much more disturbing) than Pastiche's memorable tune. It's more of a rap than anything else.
I have the "Sonic 10th Anniversary" CD with two of those rap songs on there. Some like to talk about how much better the Japanese soundtrack is. After listening to these, I can only suggest they clean out their ears.
The opening songs are no indication of the in-game music in Sonic CD. The Japanese version is much, much better than the US version. The Past music being remixed for the Present and Future stages is much more cohesive than the crappy US Soundtrack. I will give the US version a nod for the 1st level Present tune though. Calypso excellence. If only the rest of the soundtrack wasn't so ridiculous.
Elusive
05-05-2005, 08:21 AM
Hm. I've got both versions of Sonic CD - the EU and JAP versions share the same soundtrack - and I prefer the EU/JAP soundtrack over the US soundtrack any day.
Oh, and the full SegaSonic Arcade game CAN be played in MAME, but it crashes part-way into the second level. I'm not sure about the prototype, though.
I thought that this arcade game would be perfect with the DS' touchscreen - what better way to emulate a trackball? Plus, the PSP has an analogue stick - I think this compilation should be a handheld-only release.
kainemaxwell
05-05-2005, 08:52 AM
Awsome news! Is there a big difference between the 2 game soundtracks, other then the language of "Sonic Boom"?
Language? Oh no, the Japanese theme music is entirely different (and in a way much more disturbing) than Pastiche's memorable tune. It's more of a rap than anything else.
The music for all the other stages is only the same for the "past" tunes. The Japanese version used remixes of the "past" tracks for the present and good future/bad future tunes. I think that also means that they're all FM music instead of redbook audio.
Ok, now I'm definitly more intrested!
Jorpho
05-05-2005, 09:19 AM
Oh, and the full SegaSonic Arcade game CAN be played in MAME, but it crashes part-way into the second level. I'm not sure about the prototype, though.
Really? I thought the ROMs were hopelessly encrypted. Last time I played the prototype I couldn't get the walls to go up.
By the way, you can get the various Sonic CD MP3s here (http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/index.shtml). (Ahh, I love that Wacky Workbench Past theme.)
Nebagram
05-05-2005, 02:28 PM
I hope it's true and if so that Sonic CD will contain both Japanese and wetsern soundtracks. But first I would like to see some more proof. (He and if yes I hope they add Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic R as well)
Sonic R crap. A demo of Sonic X-Treme would be nice, though. :) And I am in full agreement about Knuckles Chaotix (erm, the people who want it included anyway)
fishsandwich
05-05-2005, 03:07 PM
I hope it's true and if so that Sonic CD will contain both Japanese and wetsern soundtracks. But first I would like to see some more proof. (He and if yes I hope they add Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic R as well)
Sonic R crap. A demo of Sonic X-Treme would be nice, though. :) And I am in full agreement about Knuckles Chaotix (erm, the people who want it included anyway)
I have mixed feelings about Sonic R. The first time I played it I was like "man, this sucks. why the hell are they running and why do I keep ending up in a river and why am I always last?"
Then I read an article about the misconception that the Saturn was a weak 3-D machine. It's complicated, but not weak. The article mentioned Sonic R and the tarnsparency/fade-in effects that were used in Sonic R as proff that the Saturn could do lovely 3-D.
I went back and played it just for the graphics. I found out two things.
1. The graphics are indeed quite pretty.
2. The game get better the more you play it.
It's not a GREAT game by any means, but it's not as bad as its reputation suggests.
And I wanna play Sonic: The Fighters
X_x
The Manimal
05-05-2005, 05:01 PM
what's with this low res thing? i have no idea what is trying to be said...
slownerveaction
05-05-2005, 06:08 PM
what's with this low res thing? i have no idea what is trying to be said...
I think GaijinPunch is refering to Sonic the Fighters being a low res 3D game and the GC not supporting 3D in that resolution. Obviously, the GC has handled many low res 2D games (first Sonic Mega Collection, Midway Arcade Treasures, Intellivision Lives, Animal Crossing NES games, Zelda Collector's Disc, etc.).
That's just a guess though. I'm curious myself...
sabre2922
05-05-2005, 06:28 PM
I would kill to play Sonic CD again :D
I remember seeing Sonic arcade ONCE many years ago it looked fun but never got to play it.
I actually played sonic R only on a Demo for the Sega Saturn I think it was one of the last demos released for the then dying Saturn in the US.
PDorr3
05-05-2005, 08:08 PM
OMG....best news all week besides shadow of the colossus! I have always wanted to play sonic the fighters the moment I saw it in an old EGM.
Sonic R is a nice game, while no way perfect it really does feel like a sonic racing game, and the euro pop soundtrack stuff is great stuff. Controls are iffy, but the game has a nice charm to it.
I would love to see all the gamegear games on there, which I am sure they will be on there if they werent on the first collections, I mean if they have fighters Im sure they will have the game gear games.
Jorpho
05-05-2005, 10:58 PM
I would kill to play Sonic CD again :D
I remember seeing Sonic arcade ONCE many years ago it looked fun but never got to play it.
Y'know, Sonic CD was a component of the Sega Mega Pack, a well-priced and varied PC games bundle that is still widely available (try Amazon). The port is a little lackluster, but everything in the original is still there. (It even has the slightly-extended intro from the Japanese version.)
I played Sonic The Fighters about a year ago (Edmonton airport, I think it was). It really wasn't anything too remarkable, and it was much, much too easy (and that's saying something, considering I never play 2D fighters). Still, it's nice to think that Sega might be giving a nod to it at last. (By the way, it seems to be creeping into MAME.)
kainemaxwell
05-06-2005, 12:52 AM
Oh, and the full SegaSonic Arcade game CAN be played in MAME, but it crashes part-way into the second level. I'm not sure about the prototype, though.
Really? I thought the ROMs were hopelessly encrypted. Last time I played the prototype I couldn't get the walls to go up.
By the way, you can get the various Sonic CD MP3s here (http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/index.shtml). (Ahh, I love that Wacky Workbench Past theme.)
Thanks for the link, I had forgotten about that site!
Elusive
05-07-2005, 11:25 AM
Oh, and the full SegaSonic Arcade game CAN be played in MAME, but it crashes part-way into the second level. I'm not sure about the prototype, though.
Really? I thought the ROMs were hopelessly encrypted. Last time I played the prototype I couldn't get the walls to go up.
By the way, you can get the various Sonic CD MP3s here (http://www.planetdreamcast.com/sonic/listen/index.shtml). (Ahh, I love that Wacky Workbench Past theme.)
Arcade ROMs themselves are encrypted - MAME just decrypts them into a playable form. The problem with emulators is they don't always replicate the real hardware exactly - for example, a friend of mine emailed me a while back asking if the Ocarina of Time ROM he was playing was a proto, simply because the walls refused to show up. Needlessly to say, it was a bug in his emulator.
kainemaxwell
05-07-2005, 11:35 AM
Wow, the songs from the Japanese Sonic CD are excellent!!
Jorpho
05-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Arcade ROMs themselves are encrypted - MAME just decrypts them into a playable form.
It was my understainding that it can pose a sizeable obstactle to emulation if a decryption key is embedded in the hardware in such a way that makes it difficult to extract. Such is why CPS2 emulation and emulation of some older Atari games was not feasible for a long time.
http://img34.echo.cx/img34/7039/famitsusonic24qz.gif
Frankie23
05-17-2005, 02:20 AM
http://www.nintendonow.com/modules/game_media/images/3552.jpg
Looks like we'll be seeing more about this tomorrow. :)
pacmanhat
05-17-2005, 02:40 AM
http://www.nintendonow.com/modules/game_media/images/3552.jpg
Looks like we'll be seeing more about this tomorrow. :)
Huh...that image seemse to suggest there's only two games on it? Unless I'm missing something... :/
poopnes
05-17-2005, 04:01 AM
http://www.nintendonow.com/modules/game_media/images/3552.jpg
Looks like we'll be seeing more about this tomorrow. :)
Huh...that image seemse to suggest there's only two games on it? Unless I'm missing something... :/
Well maybe the e3 demo only has those two games playable? There will surely be more games included. I mean look at Mega Collection or Adventure DX!
poopnes
05-17-2005, 04:21 AM
http://www.nintendonow.com/modules/game_media/images/3552.jpg
Looks like we'll be seeing more about this tomorrow. :)
Huh...that image seemse to suggest there's only two games on it? Unless I'm missing something... :/
Well maybe the e3 demo only has those two games playable? There will surely be more games included. I mean look at Mega Collection or Adventure DX!
Jive3D
05-17-2005, 09:42 AM
I was OBSESSED with SONIC R when it was released for the PC. That's probably one of the only games that my crappy computer could play back in the day.
Sonic X-treme is really wishful thinking - but then again - on Sonic Jam for Saturn, there is that thing called Sonic World, and it's a 3D sonic 'game' where you run around a hub world collecting coins, and then you can check out some history stuff if you walk into certain buildings ala Namco Collection. I'm STILL pissed that Sonic X-treme was cancelled.
I've been curious about the Sonic CD soundtrack for a very LONG time. I absolutely LOVED the US soundtrack when the game came out (I still like it today). Spencer Nilsen is the artist I beleive and I thought he did a great job, but I always liked the future & past songs better than the 'present' songs - so It's cool to hear that they use those songs more frequently in the japanese version? I was worried that the soundtrack would be TOTALLY different and not done by Nilsen at all, especially by the sound of the Sonic Rap on the anniv' OST CD. - In all honestly, I think Sega might botch this one up, but it would be incredible if they included a choice for sountracks.
PC-Famicom64
05-17-2005, 09:46 AM
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/728/gems1po.jpg
Well, I've found that, but that could be anything. Apparently the trademark is registered, but there is no word on what it will include. :(Thats for The Revolution. ^_^
PentiumMMX
05-17-2005, 10:38 AM
I'm all for having Sonic CD in it!
Here are the games it's gotta' have:
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic 3D Blast (Saturn Version)
Dr. Robotnic's Mean Bean Machine
Sonic X-Treme Demo
Sonic CD
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle (Yes, I actuly want to try this!)
Sonic Chaos
Sonic Blast
Sonic Triple Trouble
Now there's a collection I'd want!
Cmosfm
05-17-2005, 10:53 AM
Well, only 2 games confirmed so far, and I'm already sold. I've been dying for some Sonic Fighters action, and Sonic CD is a must (hopefully with a soundtrack option).
I just hope that it's not JUST those 2 games, as the picture seems to suggest
WanganRunner
05-17-2005, 11:00 AM
Well, it likely won't repeat any titles from the first Sonic collection....there's no reason they'd do that.
Honestly, I'll buy it JUST for Sonic CD. That's all I need.
The "Sonic World" demo would be super cool though.
segagamer4life
05-17-2005, 11:23 AM
lol yeah I want Sonic the Fighters... I never got to experience this in the arcades. SO I would love to have this ported onto any console.
Jorpho
05-17-2005, 10:35 PM
I've been curious about the Sonic CD soundtrack for a very LONG time. I absolutely LOVED the US soundtrack when the game came out (I still like it today). Spencer Nilsen is the artist I beleive and I thought he did a great job, but I always liked the future & past songs better than the 'present' songs - so It's cool to hear that they use those songs more frequently in the japanese version? I was worried that the soundtrack would be TOTALLY different and not done by Nilsen at all, especially by the sound of the Sonic Rap on the anniv' OST CD. - In all honestly, I think Sega might botch this one up, but it would be incredible if they included a choice for sountracks.
There is no Spencer Nilsen in the Japanese OST, nor is there any Pastiche. The Past tracks are identical in both versions (i.e., Nilsen didn't do those either).
Wouldn't it be odd if Pastiche (http://www.singers.com/jazz/pastiche.html) could be persuaded to reprise Sonic Boom at CGE? Reportedly (http://www.jaiuttal.com/htm/bandmems/sandyc.htm) Ms. Cressman is still doing some video game music.
Jive3D
05-18-2005, 12:58 AM
I've been curious about the Sonic CD soundtrack for a very LONG time. I absolutely LOVED the US soundtrack when the game came out (I still like it today). Spencer Nilsen is the artist I beleive and I thought he did a great job, but I always liked the future & past songs better than the 'present' songs - so It's cool to hear that they use those songs more frequently in the japanese version? I was worried that the soundtrack would be TOTALLY different and not done by Nilsen at all, especially by the sound of the Sonic Rap on the anniv' OST CD. - In all honestly, I think Sega might botch this one up, but it would be incredible if they included a choice for sountracks.
There is no Spencer Nilsen in the Japanese OST, nor is there any Pastiche. The Past tracks are identical in both versions (i.e., Nilsen didn't do those either).
Wouldn't it be odd if Pastiche (http://www.singers.com/jazz/pastiche.html) could be persuaded to reprise Sonic Boom at CGE? Reportedly (http://www.jaiuttal.com/htm/bandmems/sandyc.htm) Ms. Cressman is still doing some video game music.
Nilsen did produce the US OST though - so you're saying that he did all of the US tracks that are not in the Japanese OST? That would include Sonic Boom, some of the Stardus Speedway songs and Palmtree Panic etc? Interesting, I always thought that Nilsen was responsible for the whole thing.
Jive3D
05-18-2005, 02:11 PM
Something else just occured to me!
In the link posted above that has downloads of all of the japanese soundtrack from sonic cd - couldn't you just make a backup version of the game with that soundtrack?
Part of the back-up process for many sega cd games requires you seperating out each audio track and then converting them etc, then oprganizing them in a way to be burned with the game data (i dont remember exactly, I have not burned a Sega CD game in a LONG LONG TIME) - but you COULD just use those tracks from the Japanese soundtrack and swap those with the US tracks and burn it - and then you'd have the US game with the Japanese soundtrack!
I must do it!
Crush Crawfish
05-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Here ya go:
Sonic Gems Collection brings several classic games to the GameCube. The compilation includes Sonic CD, Sonic Championship, Sonic R, and six Sonic Game Gear titles. Sega also promises some extra features. No release date was given for the game.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/17/news_6125270.html
Well, I'm dissapointed that chaotix isn't in it, but otherwise it's great! I hope the GG games include Triple trouble, chaos, and Tails' adventure. I always wanted to play those on a bigger screen!
THATinkjar
06-14-2005, 08:31 AM
Sorry to bump this relatively old thread, but IGN have posted a short compilation clip of Sonic Gems.
You can find the video here (http://media.cube.ign.com/media/748/748563/vids_1.html?fromint=1).
SamuraiSmurfette
06-14-2005, 08:43 AM
EBGames.com has a tenative cover, and release date:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_images/257096-mock.jpg
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/257096.asp
THATinkjar
06-14-2005, 08:51 AM
That cover looks nice. The blue contrasts well on the bright and colourful background. This is going to be a must-have me thinks :)
Crush Crawfish
06-14-2005, 06:38 PM
Yep, I agree on the cover- it looks great, and adding metal sonic was a nice touch.
Oh, and IGN has posted an article about this game, saying that streets of rage might be included in it:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/625/625374p1.html
MegaDrive20XX
06-14-2005, 06:42 PM
Wow that is weird, I wonder why they would throw just one of the Streets of Rage games, when everyone knows that Bare Knuckle 2 owns compared to all three...
Hopefully some other goodies may show up.
Hell, they should just throw in Knuckles Chaotix I'd say, if they want to add other titles such as this.
THATinkjar
07-03-2005, 03:55 AM
GameSpy has thrown up an "exclusive" preview of Sonic Gems here (http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/sonic-gems-collection/630353p1.html).
Worth mentioning is...
The Japanese version will feature the Japanese soundtrack but, due to licensing issues, the US (and most likely European) release will feature the US soundtrack.
The US unlockables are apparently Vectorman and its sequel. In response to the lack of Streets of Rage in the US release, GameSpy quoted SEGA as saying:
"SEGA confirms Streets of Rage will not be included in the U.S. version of its title Sonic Gems Collection. While Streets of Rage will ship with Sonic Gems Collection in other markets, the more mature game does not conform to the E-rating of Sonic The Hedgehog games in North America."
Perhaps us Europeans will enjoy SoR, then.
Nothing else really of note.
THATinkjar
07-23-2005, 05:04 PM
GameSpy has thrown together an interview with the Director of Sonic Team, Yojiro Ogawa. It is a very interesting read, confirming a few new details. The most interesting part, for me, was that remixes of the US and Jap soundtrack to Sonic CD will be featured in a "museum" in Sonic Gems.
You can read the two-page interview here (http://cube.gamespy.com/articles/635/635878p1.html).
MegaDrive20XX
07-23-2005, 05:12 PM
Vectorman does not fill in the gap for missing Streets of Rage Trilogy by far...:(
Well looks like I'll have to import!
joshnickerson
07-23-2005, 05:13 PM
A museum, eh? Will it be boring menus like the first collection, or are we gonna see a revival of "Sonic World" from Sonic Jam?