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fishsandwich

05-10-2005, 12:53 PM

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********************UPDATE*********************

You snooze, you LOSE... possibly to a very slick (and sneaky) Digital Press reader! Bastard!

I called the seller back last night after having given this sale a lot of thought. I did a lot of research on Ebay and found that $550 wasn't a bad deal at all. If prices were to hold true and I decided to re-sell the collection at some point, I would end up making some money. This is if and only if Ebay prices hold... I suspect the prices for boxed NGPC games will go UP in the future, but I am a dumbass and my opinions are suspect.

Anyway, I called the seller with the intention of trying to talk him down a bit. I confess that I WAS ready to buy the lot for the $550 he asked, but I'll be damned if I wasn't going to try and bicker. I really don't have the cash right now but I'd make do.

I wasn't given the chance. :bad-words:

"Hey dude, I already sold it." he said :angel:

"What? Crap! For how much?" I yelped :bullshit:

"$550!" :puke:

:smash:

Shit! Someone beat me to it! I asked the guy who it was, and he said it was "some guy who saw a picture of the collection on the internet." I asked if he had posted the picture of the games anywhere on the net... he said he hadn't. Seems he took the picture just for me and e-mailed it to me and MY dumbass posted it for all to see. I asked more questions, but he didn't have much else to say... just that the picture had been seen on the internet. He was pretty clueless for a guy who collected NGPC games. Kinda dumb, really. I asked how he had gotten them... he said he worked at a game store years ago and had bought all their unsold stock as well as about $800 of Neo Geo AES games he sold a while back for "a shitload." Maybe he WASN'T so dumb.

:vamp:

This leads me to believe that a slick and smart little bastard who views DP saw my post and went to Craigslist and found it. The reason I call him "smart" is because there are a lot of different cities on Craigslist, and I do not believe you can search ALL of Craigslist for a particular item. Our sneaky tosser might have narrowed down where I live, or he may just be one hell of a tenacious searcher.

Anyone care to come clean? I promise not to smite you... he who snoozes loses, and I took a big old nap and LOST. Cheeky bastard! Plus I couldn't afford it anyway.

:onfire: :rockets:

Check out some of the recent prices that this stuff has been bringing on Ebay...

Last Blade UK- $50
Only one complete copy sold recently. This collection has an EXTRA one that was SEALED!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185033443&rd=1

Faselei UK- $50 to $90
Two complete copies sold lately. Loose copies going unsold for $10.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185032476&rd=1

Evolution UK- $80
One sold, one not sold with a starting price of about $180.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185032259&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Cool Boarders UK- $60
I, too, have heard this game sucks, but I still wanted to try it on the actual handheld... I've played it on an emulator.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185031983&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Cotton UK- $45
I love the Cotton games on the Saturn. Love them! I like the Megadrive game a lot (amazing scaling for 16-bit) and I can even stomach the Dreamcast travesty. The NGPC version is evidentally very similar to the original.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185033099&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Picture Puzzle- $40
I have no idea what this game is, but there it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72503&item=8185032776&rd=1

Gals Fighters- ???
No complete games sold recently

Come to find there have been NO sales of a lot of the games lately, especially complete. When did Ebay stop going back for weeks and weeks? How the hell am I supposed to be a blatant profiteer if I can't research this crap?

Seriously, though, I would not have sold any of this except for the extra Last Blade, the extra UK Metal Slug, the two card fighters, SamSho2, Sonic, and MotM (I already have these games complete) and Pac-Man (I'd have sold my loose copy or just thrown it in with another sold game.)

A LESSON TO ALL... KEEP YOUR FINDS TO YOURSELF UNTIL YOU HAVE THEM IN YOUR GREEDY LITTLE HANDS OR SOME SNEAKY CHEEKY DP BASTARD WILL MAKE IT HIS OWN FIND AND YOU'LL BE SUCK HOLDING JACK SHITE. But at least you'll be $550 richer.

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I found a collection of Neo Geo Pocket things on my new favorite site for ridiculousness, Craigslist. I already have a few of these games, but I don't have some of the best ones and most of what I have is loose. Some of these could be good for re-sale on Epay, but prices for Neo Geo POcket games seems to have fallen lately with the flood of loose carts mucking things up.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/goatmeal/neo.jpg

There's some nice UK games in there including Faselei!, Evolution, & Cotton, plus both Dive Alerts, some hentai Majong game, and a spare complete copy of UK Last Blade (not pictured here.) There also 2 Metal Slugs... one UK, one US. Everything looks ot be in fine shape and I have been assured that all games come with instructions and that all the boxes for the cardboard-boxed games are in very good condition at the very least. A couple of games look sealed but I can't tell and I forgot to ask, but I'd want to open them and play then anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Would you pay $550 for this? Take into account I have to drive almost 70 miles each way AND that funds are a bit tight at the moment...

:?

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SegaAges

05-10-2005, 12:58 PM

I know little to nothing about rarity of things such as neo geo pocket games, but that looks awesome. If I personally has $550 extra to spend, I would, but than again, I no nothing about the rarity of these games.

goatdan

05-10-2005, 01:15 PM

Most of those are UK games, right? If so, I probably wouldn't go for it personally. If it was mostly American versions and money wasn't tight, I'd pick it up.

It seems to be a generally okay deal all around. Just depends on how much you want it!

Kejoriv

05-10-2005, 01:47 PM

I would probably go for it if I had the money. If nothing else those games are great trade bait.

CreamSoda

05-10-2005, 01:57 PM

No, I mean it's a sweet collection and all. But $550 is a bit to steep for me.

Congrats to whoever does get it though. :)

Bluteg

05-10-2005, 02:22 PM

goatdan

05-10-2005, 02:25 PM

Most of those are UK games, right? If so, I probably wouldn't go for it personally. If it was mostly American versions and money wasn't tight, I'd pick it up.

Actually Dan, UK NGPC games are more sought after than US releases because of the lack of region lock-out and that UK games come in plastic clamshell cases compared to the cardboard boxes the US realeses came in.

If your into NGPC collecting then hell yeah thats a great deal considering that complete games are getting very hard to come by with all of the loose carts on ebay. I usually see less than 20 complete games at a time on ebay and even the most common games usually sell for $10 complete.

Well, from what I've seen UK NGPC games, for the most part, are more common than their US counterparts. If I'm not mistaken, all NGPC games are region free. With certain games in that group, the UK versions seem to show up pretty regularly, the US versions are nearly impossible to find.

Again -- that's what I've seen. I'm not exactly actively collecting for the system, but I have something like 95% of the complete set now just from small purchases :)

fishsandwich

05-10-2005, 02:35 PM

The real reason I'm really interested in this lot happens to be the UK games... I think those plastic snap cases are just so much nicer than our crappy cardboard ones, plus the UK got several games we never got in the States... mainly Faselei, Evolution, Cool Boards, Last Blade, and Cotton. I think a few of these games were supposed to be released in the Staes and can actually be found with a ESB rating, but no packaging. I'm certain that Cotton and Cool Boarders never saw any time of Stateside release, loose or not.

UK collectors seem to be more into this system than we yanks... I love the damn little system, though. Best fighters ever!

Garry Silljo

05-10-2005, 02:43 PM

ClubNinja

05-10-2005, 02:46 PM

If I ever saw something like that on Craigslist, I'd probably wet myself. Wow. I'd probably contact the guy and try bargaining. I envy you just for having the opportunity.

CullJeff

05-10-2005, 02:47 PM

if i were a rich man yes, tight funds, hell no. maybe 300 and something but not 550.00

culltyler

05-10-2005, 03:09 PM

No. No sir, I would not.

LethargicTheHutt

05-10-2005, 03:12 PM

Not a chance. That stuff, bought seperatly (and getting a good deal) is like $250 max.

Edit: Fine. $300-325.

esquire

05-10-2005, 03:28 PM

I don't see how they are overpriced. $550 for 40 games plus the NGPC? That's only $13.75 a game, and not including the system. If you include that, they are only $13.00 a game, and they are all complete, correct? That doesn't seem bad to me at all. I'd offer $400 and go up from there. I don't see anyone able to get all of those games for $250. That's like $6 a game. If you guys know a place where I can get CIB NGPC games for $6 a piece, please let me know.

fishsandwich

05-10-2005, 03:29 PM

The US did get Faselei, I have one. They just never got boxes or instructions for it. Check the DP Online rarity guide for the story. I personally think your price is probably fair, but too much for me and I have a complete US collection anyway. Good luck selling that though.

Dude... I'm maybe buying, not selling. I mentioned that I thought some of those listed might have had a US release, just without boxes and instructions.

Thanks for reading so carefully, though. :kiss:

I'm going to try to talk him down to somewhere in the $300 range. Wish me luck!

:smash:

drwily008

05-10-2005, 03:34 PM

Dude, whatever these guys are telling you..don't listen.

If those games were sold separately for 20 each it would be $720 plus the bonus system (worth about $40 or $50). That makes it a great deal, besides like you said many are scarce like Cotton ($75 in DP), Faeslai($90 in DP), Coolboarders ($60 in DP), Last Blade ($60)etc...

So yes buy it then take your doubles (or just the ones you don't want) and post them here. Whatever doesn't sell here throw on EBAY.

FYI- most of the U.K. games a worth double their U.S. counterparts in Digital Press Advanced...so that should be a factor too.

Good luck man, that is a great package.

shai hulud

05-10-2005, 06:48 PM

it is probably worth about $550, but when sold in a lot like that you would expect to get some sort of discount. I sold a collection about that size 3 years ago for $425.

sharp

05-10-2005, 07:19 PM

I think it's a really good price, you get a system with lots of great and rare games. It's certainly not priced too high. I think it sounds a good deal for me. Only I'm not intrested in US-versions and have all the uk games already.

Cauterize

05-10-2005, 07:24 PM

Coolboarders ($60 in DP)

I never even knew there was a Cool Boarders for NGPC! Definately one ill have to pick up!

Hell it was even released HERE where i am and i didnt know!

*dear me!*

Good luck on your purchase man! Neo Geo stuff is always a good investment!

Slipdeath

05-10-2005, 07:27 PM

Just the fact that there are so many complete US games in there makes it worth it. They are all pretty much hard to find complete, and that lot would surely save you a long time of searching for them.

Aussie2B

05-10-2005, 07:34 PM

As spiffy as they look, I'd probably pass. It's definitely a fair price and nothing you should feel bad about buying, but it's nothing you should cry about if you pass on either. Considering you're tight on money, you're probably better off saving yourself the stress of having 550 less dollars and the hassle of selling off ones you don't want or need.

Good luck talking him down to $300. At that price, it would be much more worth it.

sharp

05-10-2005, 11:48 PM

Coolboarders ($60 in DP)

I never even knew there was a Cool Boarders for NGPC! Definately one ill have to pick up!

Hell it was even released HERE where i am and i didnt know!

*dear me!*

Don't be too happy. Cool Boarders on the NGPC was for me one of the most disapointing games. The game is a bit like Paperboy, but instead of scrolling up the game scrolls down. You have to avoid stones, stupid animals, falling trees, holes, lava and some more. Oh on some points you need a special move to jump extra, but the game was to boring to real learn how. Oh and you can choose if you're a man or female and there are tracks, unlockable tracks and a survival mode.

Anyway I found the game crappy, especially with all the other good games on the platform. Except for the gambling games, only Dive Alert and Pocket Reversi were less fun.

Oh and that you didn't know, I think not many copies were delivered to stores as soon after the release SNK Europe closed it's doors. I got mine from Special Reserve in the UK.

retroman

05-10-2005, 11:57 PM

ahhh....how about ..NOOO

Fuyukaze

05-11-2005, 01:58 AM

It realy depends on why your buying it. If your getting it to play for the games, it's almost worth it. There are some very good games in it. If your getting it as a colector, then no. There are cheaper ways to go about it. Personaly, I'd love to get it but thats only for the love of of Cotton.

ClubNinja

05-11-2005, 11:10 AM

Regarding the UPDATE above:

I will be honest in that I *thought about* finding it for myself and going after it. That said, not seeing your location displayed pretty much shut the thought off immediately - I didn't want to do *too* much work on it, you see. I'd venture to guess that, if lazy me had the thought to seek it out, there could've been several people who would've taken the time and effort to actually do it.

Ah well, a lesson learned for you - and it didn't even cost you five hundred bucks!

I envy the one who did get it, though.

K3V

05-11-2005, 11:43 AM

First thing I thought when you posted this thread was that it would be very easy for someone to go find the listing on craigslist and grab it. I'm not interested in NGPC stuff, but if I were it wouldn't be too tough to hop all over it.

It's like posting links to eBay auctions. All you're doing is generating more interest in them, even if you're not bidding on them you'll make the price jump for those who are.

goatdan

05-11-2005, 12:00 PM

Don't worry about it. If you're short on money like you said, you should probably thank whoever it was for saving you from yourself ;)

It wasn't me. I don't have that sort of money either :( And I wouldn't have done it anyways.

Promophile

05-11-2005, 12:46 PM

Yeah this is why when I Want to bid on an auction or just win it I don't post / brag about it until its in my hands. Don't want any theives...

Captain Wrong

05-11-2005, 01:23 PM

Yeah this is why when I Want to bid on an auction or just win it I don't post / brag about it until its in my hands. Don't want any thieves...

Thieves? I'd hardly call someone a thief if someone else goes on line and posts about something they are considering buying and posts the location or enough information someone can figure it out and that first person acts on it. That's not stealing, that's called "you snooze, you lose."

Actually, it's a good thing fishsandwich is kind of philosophical about it. I seem to remember a similar thing a few weeks ago that turned unnecessarily ugly. The lesson here is don't post where you found something if you're asking if it's a good deal.

Well, that and I guess $550 was a good deal for that lot. LOL

Aussie2B

05-11-2005, 01:52 PM

fishsandwich

05-11-2005, 02:05 PM

Boy, that's really sleazy that someone would do that. I'd like to think that this community is a haven from the dog-eat-dog, everyone only looking out for his/her own self and acquistions mentality of collecting.

Thanks for the sentiment, Aussie... I do appreciate it. I'm not angry or even upset, really. I really couldn't spare the cash anyway.

Had I had the cash, I still would <probably> be ok with it... I dragged my feet and asked for opinions from hard-core collectors and if I haven't learned the "you snooze you lose" lesson by now, I'm never going to learn it and I should me slapped.

Anyway, this is the net we're talking about... the picture could have been passed around to another board or individual. Who knows?

Cheeky bastard! LOL

Captain Wrong

05-11-2005, 02:06 PM

Boy, that's really sleazy that someone would do that. I'd like to think that this community is a haven from the dog-eat-dog, everyone only looking out for his/her own self and acquistions mentality of collecting.

How is that "sleazy?" It's not like anyone tricked him into telling where the stuff was being offered for sale. He provided that information freely. It's not like he put money down and someone else made the guy a better offer. It doesn't even sound like fishsandwich really had the cash to buy it or if he did he was doubtful about spending it.

If you come to a message board full of game collectors and post information on where to get something, you have to expect someone else may beat you to the punch. To expect otherwise is naive and unreasonable, IMHO.

Aussie2B

05-11-2005, 02:32 PM

Oh, I know what to expect. That's why I try to be vague myself.

But no matter what's expected, it's still quite rude in my book. What was this person thinking? They'd KNOW he'd be disappointed and angry, and they'd know that it was their actions that resulted in that. I don't know how someone couldn't feel guilty about that. Really, the seller should've held the lot for him, telling the other person to wait and see what happens. Even if it was something that I REALLY wanted, I'd wait for him to make his decision first, or if I wanted to safeguard it for myself a little more, I'd send a message to the seller saying something like "If that deal doesn't go through, I'd like to buy".

I wouldn't really label it as just a "you snooze, you lose" situation. That's more like if two collectors hit the same thrift store and the one who gets there first one day gets a good find or if there's a listing online for something and someone sees it before someone else. In this situation, he didn't specifically say where it could be found or where he lives, and it was introduced to everyone with the pretext that he was in communication with the seller and in the process of possibly purchasing it.

Captain Wrong

05-11-2005, 05:26 PM

But no matter what's expected, it's still quite rude in my book. What was this person thinking? They'd KNOW he'd be disappointed and angry, and they'd know that it was their actions that resulted in that. I don't know how someone couldn't feel guilty about that. Really, the seller should've held the lot for him, telling the other person to wait and see what happens. Even if it was something that I REALLY wanted, I'd wait for him to make his decision first, or if I wanted to safeguard it for myself a little more, I'd send a message to the seller saying something like "If that deal doesn't go through, I'd like to buy".

In this situation, he didn't specifically say where it could be found or where he lives, and it was introduced to everyone with the pretext that he was in communication with the seller and in the process of possibly purchasing it.

OK, but everything you're saying here is well and good if there was an actual transaction in progress. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no money had changed hands and there was nothing more than an request to the seller for more information. There was no sale in progress and, in my book anyway, emailing a seller with questions hardly constitues "dibs" of any sort as either buyer or seller.

As a buyer, if I find something I'm interested in, I'm either buying it or not and if I tell someone else where it is, it's fair game, as far as I'm concerned. If I'm selling, there is no "in the process of possibly purchasing." You're either buying, or you're not and unless you've told me the date I should expect to receive payment, you're not buying. I've been burned waaay to many times as a seller to expect every person who emails me a question is serious about buying.

I can see where you're coming from, but like I said before, unless he'd said to the seller "I'm buying this, where do I send the money?" it was fair game. I don't blame either buyer or seller for doing what they did.

Now, is the mystery buyer ever going to show themself? Wouldn't it be ironic if it wasn't someone from here? LOL

Ed Oscuro

05-11-2005, 08:58 PM

...if I haven't learned the "you snooze you lose" lesson by now, I'm never going to learn it and I should me slapped.
The only problem with this is that this lesson is far, far behind the importance of "don't even think about buying high-cost items without having seen a handful of auctions to guide you to the right price." Those NGPC auctions seem to be pushing the high range of prices here, but that's not the real issue; taking the attitude that you need to jump on "deals" for uncommon items (ones you haven't seen before) is a good way to lose out. Even now I have all sorts of times where I find out that I've paid more than I needed to for a certain game, as another shows up on eBay for less than I paid (sometimes far less). Just a friendly warning - try to think about it whenever you're mulling an expensive purchase!

And, on that note, I definitely wouldn't cry myself to sleep over this one. All that happened is you've got a chance to try and find these games for a better price. Happy hunting.

Promophile

05-11-2005, 09:06 PM