WTB: Sega Genesis Model 1 System(s), Games, Game Genie

[Epicenter]

Hello! I'm looking to buy one or more Sega Genesis systems. Probably 2 if possible. They need to be this variety (sorry if it's too specific.. this IS important 8-)), and must have the HIGH DEFINITION GRAPHICS text printed across the top:

http://www.particles.org/genesis/genesismodel1.jpg

I'm also looking for a couple decent model 2 or 3 style controllers, a game genie unit, and some specific titles-- Sonic 1-3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Ecco 1/2, Vectorman 1/2, Gunstar Heroes, the Megaman collection (I always forget its name), and of course the needed cables/power adapter to go with the system(s). You don't need to have all these items of course, but it'd be great to get them all at once.

I can pay by paypal. My AIM name is Epicenter713 if you'd prefer to contact me that way. Thanks!

[anagrama]

Have you re-imbursed Joe the $100 you stole (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55951) yet?

[GrandAmChandler]

Holy crap, I must have totally missed that thread anagrama.... (probablly because it is only 1 post and just got shuffled) Good thing someone said something...

[Epicenter]

I haven't stolen anything from anyone. Joe paid me to overclock a system for him, but my equipment went faulty and I was unable to get a stable working machine going for him. A magazine recently approached me and asked me to do a feature for them on the same topic-- I agreed if they could pay for the expenses (systems, games to test, etc.) as I have absolutely no money to spend at the moment.

When I have a source of INCOME I will pay Joe back, and I've made this extremely clear to him and the numerous other people who feel the need to antagonize me over this. It's humiliating ENOUGH to be unable to deliver on one's word and have this hanging over my head all the time, without being given excess grief about it as well from people like you.

There's a big difference between needing money for FOOD and having to wait to pay someone back, to "stealing".

If I get a cent out of the article I'm doing, it'll go to Joe, as well as any other cash that I can spare that doesn't go to basic living expenses. If he still WANTS it and I can get a system stable enough that nothing will go wrong and humiliate me when it gets to him, I'll send him that. I wrote a response to the thread you linked to, Anagrama, and I hope someone will understand my situation.

I may as well just give up with this thread, because no one is going to want to sell anything to someone who looks like as big an ass as I do right now.

[anagrama]

There's a big difference between needing money for FOOD and having to wait to pay someone back, to "stealing".


There's also a big difference between needing money for food and having Paypal funds ready to buy multiple Genesis systems and top-dollar games like Megaman: The Wily Wars.

[GrandAmChandler]

EpicCenter, I guess my concern is with what money were you going to buy the Genesis(s)? I am not attacking you, just concerned... Everyone needs a source of income. I don't know much about you, but can you get a job? or do you have pieces of your collection that you can sell on ebay or even here on the boards or whatnot to pay your debts back? I am sure there has to be SOME way of you making money... As for money to eat? Wow. If you are struggling that bad I am really sorry, I just don't see why you are buying genesis(s) instead of trading or something? Everyone has gotta eat... Let us know.

[Kamino]

Have you re-imbursed Joe the $100 you stole (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55951) yet?
and for that matter, ed oscuro as well. i don't recall his case being settled either.....

[Epicenter]

It really isn't as easy as "just make money!" or "Sell your collection!" I have no collection, I'm not like most people on this forum who have heaping piles of stuff. I'm not a collector at all. Hell, I don't even know the wily wars is "top dollar", I assumed it was worth $10 or so.


There's also a big difference between needing money for food and having Paypal funds ready to buy multiple Genesis systems and top-dollar games like Megaman: The Wily Wars.

Before you reply with rude comments like that, read my posts fully. I said explicitly, I cannot pay for anything. ANYTHING. As I said before, the magazine offered to pay for only the things needed to demonstrate, in a video, how to overclock the systems from scratch (which requires machines I've never opened), and to demonstrate some popular titles running on an overclocked machine. Those were the specifics. Unfortunately I can't just randomly say I want $100 to give to a random person they haven't heard of, or I would.

[pragmatic insanester]

dude. i have many a day eaten cheapo bread loaf and generic soda as meals to support my habit. -went the whole past two days consuming nothing but dr. check and cold pancakes- oh yeah!

[Epicenter]

dude. i have many a day eaten cheapo bread loaf and generic soda as meals to support my habit. -went the whole past two days consuming nothing but dr. check and cold pancakes- oh yeah!

Haha. You start to like the generic soda after a while. :p

[Cauterize]

i know i dont have anythign to do with this "arguement"
But surely if you were so low on funds, you would give up the internet for some cash....

[SuperNES]

i'm not arguing but if you are that low on cash then why are you trying to buy a genesis?

oh yeah and what is the difference between the one with "high definition graphics" and the one without? i have one of each type and did'nt even know there was 2 diff. "models"

[Epicenter]

I say this AGAIN and AGAIN and NO ONE listens. I can't pay for a Genesis. **I** can't. The magazine offered to buy me what I needed to do a feature for them. I'm not going to rip them off giving the money I vowed to spend only on the relevant equipment, on anything else.

The difference between the models with a "HIGH DEFINITION GRAPHICS" label and those without, is that the ones WITH are an earlier revision-- they have a more tolerant bus arbiter and will usually achieve much higher, and more stable, overclocks with less chance of graphical corruption or audio issues. It also has an EXT port on the back (DB-9 connector).

Had I had of these machines handy building Joe's overclocked MD, it probably would've gone a lot better.

[drewbrim]

I'll be that guy. What the hell is an overclocked system?

[Logicdustbin]

I'll be that guy. What the hell is an overclocked system?

Go look here (http://www.epicgaming.us/)

[vulcanjedi]

Hey

Interesting hardware hack. 20 years ago I would not have hesitated to take a soldering iron to anything I owned :)

I have 5 mod 1 gennys, I'll have to see which ones are rev 1.

Is the db9 the tell tale sign or the High Definition Graphics logo?

VJ

[Logicdustbin]

Hey

Interesting hardware hack. 20 years ago I would not have hesitated to take a soldering iron to anything I owned :)

I have 5 mod 1 gennys, I'll have to see which ones are rev 1.

Is the db9 the tell tale sign or the High Definition Graphics logo?

VJ

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54212

[Epicenter]

Is the db9 the tell tale sign or the High Definition Graphics logo?
VJ

What determines if it's overclockable is the CPU type-- must be MC68000, HD68HC000 to overclock halfway decently.

The "holy grail" units I've found so far have:
- MC68000 or HD68HC000
- EXT port in Bacl
- High Def. Graphics on lid

.. which I define as Revision 1. Revision 0 being an older model with no copyright display, a 2 part glue chip and an SCN68000, which are godawful for overclocking. Revision 2 with no EXT port or High Def banner on the top and no chance of an SCN68000, and Revision 3 using many Model 2 parts like a square 68HC000 or HD68HC000 CPU, which can be overclocked but are, by mechanical design, a pain in the ass to modify due to the tiny pins and thick layer of solder resist.

Some systems with High Def. banners and EXT ports still have SCN68000s so it is vital to check the CPU type to see if it is indeed overclockable. Most units with an EXT port, H.D. Graphics banner and a Serial # past 1,000,000 are overclockable systems with Motorola or Hitachi CPUs.

That was a mouthful. I hope it made some sense.

[tededfred]

can the model 3 overclock?

[Epicenter]

can the model 3 overclock?

Unfortunately, no (and it really needs it. Its 68000 clone is rather slow.) The CPU is integrated into one combo chip with the video, audio, and other hardware. Raising the clock to it would ruin the video and audio output and mess up the system timing; it wouldn't work. You're best off getting a Model 1 system. Model 2 systems can be overclocked too, but they are FAR less cooperate. You can usually only hope for about 9-10, maybe 11 MHz on a Model 2, while most Model 1 systems make it to 12 MHz stable or can go insanely far (I've had one at 25.3 MHz before.)

[vulcanjedi]

Some systems with High Def. banners and EXT ports still have SCN68000s so it is vital to check the CPU type to see if it is indeed overclockable. Most units with an EXT port, H.D. Graphics banner and a Serial # past 1,000,000 are overclockable systems with Motorola or Hitachi CPUs.

That was a mouthful. I hope it made some sense.

So you are saying the original first release rev is not as good as some that came out a little later, but still before they put the lockout copyright in?

Guess I have to get out my screwdriver :)

VJ

[Epicenter]

All the machines I've seen without the copyright screen and unlicensed game lockout feature (the very earliest units) used Signetics SCN68000s, IIRC. Those are terrible (see: GODAWFUL) for overclocking. The revision that came just after the (C) protection was added, but used high quality MC68000 and H68HC000 CPUs were ideal. The units that came after are good too, most before Model 2 work great if they're not SCN68000 based.

[Bratwurst]

You give furries a bad name, you know that?

1. No one here is ever going to send you another Genesis. Ever.

2. Considering your numerous excuses, your awkward presence on G4 ( YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET A GENESIS WORKING FOR A TAPED TELEVISION SHOW ) and inability to come through with the goods on this very forum, you have no business holding a soldering iron. You really don't.

Just stop. It's like you revel in the humiliation you unwittingly heap upon yourself.

[Epicenter]

First of all, I'm not a furry. I drew the image for my avatar a few years ago, and had it on my hard disk, I grabbed a random image that was the right size for an avatar when I signed up and didn't give it another thought. Yet every single time you reply to me, you call me a furry. By and large, furries are delusional and pathetic, and I want nothing less than to be associated with them.

Failed to overclock an MD for a "taped TV show". Please. The Screen Savers is LIVE, and if you had ever watched it and even SEEN the episode I was on, you would know that it was live. Look at the AUDIENCE for example. I had about 30 minutes to overclock the system, started when you saw in the show and had to stop when you saw. If it were taped, you can rest assured things'd have gone very differently.

I was not told in advance that I would be asked to overclock a machine, which is why I had brought one to begin with to demonstrate on. Had they told me in advance they wanted me to overclock one, I'd have specified they get a Model 1 system. Model 2 systems can almost never be overclocked. The systems are horribly unstable when overclocked even the tiniest bit. Also, the thick layer of solder resist makes it extremely difficult to solder onto unless you can sandpaper the board first, or can use test clips, et cetera. Yoshi had no test clips, or sandpaper, and the wire they gave me was of all different types and way too thick. Most MD2's can't boot past 9 MHz, and I wasn't provided with oscillators to be ABLE to try any custom speeds, so I had to try 13.4 MHz and nothing else-- the onboard frequency. Of COURSE it didn't work. It was the worst planned demonstration ever, they jacked the Genesis from a random person the morning before the show aired.

Hand me a Model 1 system that isn't SCN68000 based and odds are I'll have it working overclocked in under 1 minute, literally. There's always the chance of an uncooperative machine, but I have Model 1 systems down to a science but as should be very clear, there are the occasional machines that will not cooperate one bit.

So, I'm creating humiliation for myself, am I? I have over 4 people a day contact me asking for details on overclocking the MD and NES, I give them advice and they come back to me with profuse thanks, and newly overclocked machines. I've been on TV as a guest for my absolute favorite show, I had my work slashdotted twice and recieved near 1 million page views, had my findings published in O'Reilley's Gaming Hacks book and am now doing a feature on the process for a magazine that is published in several countries. Explain how this is "humiliation". Clearly someone thinks I'm doing something right.

I'd like to congratulate you on being the belligerent asshole you've always been and keeping up your time-honored tradition of acting like Jesus reincarnate to bolster your ego insulting people on the internet. Bravo. Now let's see you overclock a Genesis to 25 MHz in 15 minutes. Come on, I dare you.

[Bratwurst]

No.

Except for the Screen Savers bit being taped, okay it was live, but Christ you shouldn't have walked in front of that camera.

Also the Jesus part, this is true.

[Epicenter]

Haha, yeah, I did walk in front of a cam at one point for a sec, I was going to try and find some nongodawful tools from my other bag. Silly me. I thought that was damned funny personally. That said, the MD2 is hell to overclock and anyone who's tried it would back me up on that one.

[long_shawn_silver]

Haha. You start to like the generic soda after a while. :p

Your a fucking bitch, You have screwed Joe (Mr. Digitpress Himself) out of $100 bucks, Your an asshole, AND once agian you screwed the guy that Admins the DP!!

Suck cock you fucking loser, I hope the "magazine deal" that is most likely not even real or true blows up in your face and you have to eat CAT SHIT SANDWITCHES FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

I have 5 extra Genesis consoles and every game your after all for trade (except megaman) and I would rather smash them with a hammer then sell or give them to you. Rot in hell Douche Bag!! And have fun with your Cat Shit Sandwitches!! Be sure to wash it down with some human urine also you prick. Actually don't, I hope you choke on it.

[Epicenter]

I see next to your name here, "September 2004". It says that's the month you joined, but I'm more convinced it's the month you were born. You certainly haven't shown enough maturity with all your poo-poo, wee-wee comments to disprove that theory, you intelligent poster, you.

I'll shoot you a message after the fact to prove I'm not shitting you or anyone. But if you had half a brain in your head you'd have figured that out by now. If I were a scam artist, would I still be hanging around here? No.

Don't blindly jump to conclusions without any facts.

EDIT: Reading your profile .. you're a FATHER?! Oh my god, I'm terrified of what the next generation will be like with parents like you around.

[long_shawn_silver]

I see next to your name here, "September 2004". It says that's the month you joined, but I'm more convinced it's the month you were born. You certainly haven't shown enough maturity with all your poo-poo, wee-wee comments to disprove that theory, you intelligent poster, you.

I'll shoot you a message after the fact to prove I'm not shitting you or anyone. But if you had half a brain in your head you'd have figured that out by now. If I were a scam artist, would I still be hanging around here? No.

Don't blindly jump to conclusions without any facts.

EDIT: Reading your profile .. you're a FATHER?! Oh my god, I'm terrified of what the next generation will be like with parents like you around.

The fact that you still post here is an insult to the DP. And the next gen will be an army of assholes out 2kill off all the genepool infections like you if I have it my way. At least my people are raised better than to STEAL FROM OTHERS. You can't insult me asshole cause you just a cum stain your mom should have never rolled over on. Damn your tuff crawling all the way of the abortion bin so I suppose maybe I should be scared!! LOL Dream on fuck face go back to fleacing money out of people, you seem pretty good at it. (THAT AND EATING CAT SHIT) LOL

[Epicenter]

I christen thee "UberTroll".

[long_shawn_silver]

I christen thee "UberTroll".

I say, "tanks, but no tanks"

EDIT: I'm done with this and I hope it gets locked.

[Veepa]

Where's Jesus when you need him...

[Moon Patrol]

I tied him up and put him in the trunk of my car. Now he can't save you now ;-)


I have 5 extra Genesis consoles and every game your after all for trade (except megaman) and I would rather smash them with a hammer then sell or give them to you. Rot in hell Douche Bag!! And have fun with your Cat Shit Sandwitches!! Be sure to wash it down with some human urine also you prick. Actually don't, I hope you choke on it.

I've never had Cat Shit Sandwitches, any good? Id like to buy some if you have any left!

[punkoffgirl]

I'm intrigued. This magazine cares enough to give you money to buy the systems that you need (rather than getting the information from you and purchasing them theirselves), which is basically like an expense account, but yet, you have no idea if you'll recieve a paycheck from them? I would have thought, being as poor as you are, that monetary compensation would have been discussed by this point.

A year is a long time to owe $100. Saving $10 a month wouldn't even take you a year. I suggest you take your expense account and shop on eBay; I also hope that every time you post a thread here where you want to buy something, someone will see and bring this debt up.

[Archenemy]

I christen thee "UberTroll".

I say, "tanks, but no tanks"

EDIT: I'm done with this and I hope it gets locked.

WHOA! The crême du crême of the Forums gather togheter to make nonsense- again! :roll:

Aren´t you the one who believes everyone else but YOU is poor and has no money? :hmm:

Didn't you blattantly accused me of having a thin wallet and couldn't afford to get in the NeoGeo "social club", even when I had expensive stuff for sale (including a boxed Jaguar + Jaguar CD, a NegoGeo AES with 9 games, a NeoGeo CD and a NeoGeo CDZ) and had purchased 100+ bucks items (Ask Max 330 Mega or Jeff about my purchases)?

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???!!!??? :angry:

[Archenemy]

I'm intrigued. This magazine cares enough to give you money to buy the systems that you need (rather than getting the information from you and purchasing them theirselves), which is basically like an expense account, but yet, you have no idea if you'll recieve a paycheck from them? I would have thought, being as poor as you are, that monetary compensation would have been discussed by this point.

A year is a long time to owe $100. Saving $10 a month wouldn't even take you a year. I suggest you take your expense account and shop on eBay; I also hope that every time you post a thread here where you want to buy something, someone will see and bring this debt up.

That is a good point.

If the Mag wanted a "serious" research, wouldn't them ask for the requiered material, brough it and then ask this guy to perform the operation in front of their eyes?
Then a monetary compensation could be negociated, even more when your life and safety (as he said, he didn't had even for TODAY'S FOOD!!!) is at stake?

I hope everything can be worked out nicely. It makes me remember how many inventors of great and monetary-wonder thingies go down forgotten in misery...

[RockyRaccoon]

By and large, furries are delusional and pathetic, and I want nothing less than to be associated with them

OH-NO-YOU-DIDN'T!

A Lot of us are actually normal people who have lives and doing our best to survive. We just have a set of our own beliefs not unlike how you have your own. It does'nt make us pathetic NOR Delusional, though I will admit a lot of us don't do much to help our situation...

Though **anyone** can have a Cartoon Animal Picture.. XD So I can understand if you're upset. Just don't make assumptions on us as a whole over it.


I also hope that every time you post a thread here where you want to buy something, someone will see and bring this debt up.

I agree. 100%. If you owe something, ya owe something.

~Rocky

[Flack]

I think Epicenter could easily pay back Joe, buy a dozen or two Sega Genesis consoles, and pay rent for a couple of months by selling what has to be the biggest set of balls known to man on eBay.

[Epicenter]

It looks like I might be getting some income soon that will be sufficient to cover living expenses and paying back Joe. The magazine, for whatever reason, didn't give me an expense account, they just requested an itemized list of what I had to buy and its cost.

If it makes me look any better, I could send Joe one of the systems I build during the demonstration for the magazine, and some cash to make up for the long-ass delay. At least now I'll have some machines that are the ideal revision for overclocking, not the shitty unstable machine I was working with earlier.

As for the furry comment. I only meant to insult the nutcases who dress up in suits and so on. Casual furries don't bother me.

[Sniderman]

It looks like I might be getting some income soon that will be sufficient to ... pay back Joe.

In keeping with the classic gaming theme of this board, I'll let my Atari 2600 collection speak for me.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/gameagain/mega.jpg
Get to work then, Bub.