Xbox360 screenshots

[goats]

http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Sharku_1
pretty neat looking if you ask me!

[Aussie2B]

That controller looks horrible. x_x

[Cmosfm]

There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles!

Actually, give the current consoles a couple more years of developers tapping into the xbox/gamecube/ps2's graphics and I'm sure you can get these kind of graphics from them.

Screw this, I'm perfectly happy with my current systems. I'm not giving microsoft 300.00 for a slight graphics upgrade. :roll:

[goats]

"There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles! "

I totally agree, even though I am a graphics whore, I am at the point where these small changes aren't worth the money. The big changes in graphics from older generation consoles to modern consoles where really obvious, but this really isn't. I think the major selling point of the new xbox is that fact that is going to be a an online media center instead of just a console.

[petewhitley]

There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles!

Actually, give the current consoles a couple more years of developers tapping into the xbox/gamecube/ps2's graphics and I'm sure you can get these kind of graphics from them.

Screw this, I'm perfectly happy with my current systems. I'm not giving microsoft 300.00 for a slight graphics upgrade. :roll:

I'm quite certain that once we get to see some footage of these games in action it's going to be quite impressive. Those aren't the highest quality scans, but they hint at some pretty impressive levels of detail. Every console from the NES on could have kept pushing out slightly better and better games before the next-gen had launched, but clearly this generation is hitting a plateu in terms of developer ideas and technical possibility (there are many examples of this from developer interviews from the past year). I'm perfectly happy with my Xbox as well, but I'm also going to be perfectly happy with the improvements seen with the Xbox 360. Bring it on!

[SoulBlazer]

Don't forget another big push of the XBox 360 -- games optimized for play on a large HDTV screen and format, something very few games do these days. Since I now have a 32 inch Sony widescreen HDTV, I'm salavating at the propect of seeing how good games in the next generation can look on it. :-P

[Cmosfm]

Thing is, I have a normal CRT television, 22", and these minor changes mean nothing to me.

I also have a decked out PC for gaming, I can get these type of graphics already.

As for a media center, I don't care about all that, nor do I care for online gaming. I'm all about solo gaming, just like I had on my NES, just like I have on my Gamecube.

I'll keep my eyes out for the Nintendo Revolution. :)

[petewhitley]

Don't forget another big push of the XBox 360 -- games optimized for play on a large HDTV screen and format, something very few games do these days. Since I now have a 32 inch Sony widescreen HDTV, I'm salavating at the propect of seeing how good games in the next generation can look on it. :-P

Definitely. I'm betting that HDTV will start to become standard during the lifespan of this next-gen, as will online-gaming. Two features which, not coincidently, are focal points of the 360 (and presumably the PS3 and Nintendo "Revolution").

[Jumpman Jr.]

There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles!

I agree with you, but I think there is one thing that can be done. I think the only thing that video games could do is actually make the games (at least, the ones with people in them) actually look real. Because now, when you see a video game, you can tell right off the bat that its a game being played. I think the difference is that video games look to perfect that they don't look real.
For example, If they were to zoom in on a hot girls face in a video game, there would be no inperfection at all. But zooming in on a hot girls face in real life, you are going to see different things.
There are obvious differences that can be seen between people on TV and people on video games. Making them look similar seems to be the only thing that can be done.
However, none of it really matters to me because I hate new-era consoles. :)

[Lemmy Kilmister]

Can someone who reads french translate what it says about Hironobu Sakaguchi's new RPG on page 13 (http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Sharku_13).

[Parodius]

These are also the very first games in an entirely new generation of consoles.

These DOA4 screen would be equivalent to the first screens of Virtua Fighter 3 for Dreamcast back in 1998. Though impressive in their day they can't really hold a candle to later generation releases like DOA2 on the DC. AND, the DC never really got to show its full potential as it was discontinued.

[geelw]

Can someone who reads french translate what it says about Hironobu Sakaguchi's new RPG on page 13 (http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Sharku_13).

download mullti transe here: http://www.tialsoft.com/multitranse/

and do a little cut 'n pasting.
g.

[SuperNES]

the graphics only look slightly better, but i will still be getting the 360 eventually. i don't really care a lot about graphics, but all the new games will come out for it.

[Saabmeister]

That controller looks horrid.

And for some reason the screenshots make me think of crappy FMV games..especially the first one with the guy yelling in the corner...

[Geondp]

There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles!

Wow, I am by no means a "graphics whore". But to say there is barely any difference is, well funny.

Look at the freaking level of detail in every aspect of all the SS, all I can say if the games look that good in real time. That in my eyes will be a HUGE jump in graphics... you say tomato I say tomahto I guess

[Zubiac666]

wow......they look like a....uhm.....videogame
to be honest: they look like slightly more detailed this-gen games(are the DOA4 pics from xbox360?They look no better than DOA3).
I'm not impressed at all.
Some soon to be released PC games look ten times better already,oh well.
I say it again: it's far too early for a new gen of consoles.
This gen consoles(esp Gamecube and Xbox) have too much unused power....use it!

side-note: controller looks like some joke....this thingie can't be taken seriously....can it?
and why is the connector on the frontside of the controller and not on the backside,huh?Can you plug it on some sort of loading-station?

[yok-dfa]

Can someone who reads french translate what it says about Hironobu Sakaguchi's new RPG on page 13 (http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Sharku_13).

Just use babelfish ( http://babelfish.altavista.com ). It does a reasonable job ->


The Japanese magazine Shônen Jump, one of the large specialists in RPG to the country of the raising sun, revealed of exclusiveness the first play in the studios founded by emblematic Hironobu Sakaguchi. Blue Dragon is announced already like one of the centre pieces of Xbox 360 in Japan.

For the design of Blue Dragon Hironobu Sakaguchi (creative of Final Fantasy) and Microsoft called upon a legend in Japan, very famous Akira Toriyama (Ball Dragon, Dragon Quest...).
Blue Dragon Microsoft takes into account to tame the Japanese players and also proves his will not to republish the errors of last with the design of typically Japanese plays. Blue Dragon will be doubtless presented at the time of E3 which will begin in about fifteen days... "

[RCM]

I always expected this next generation to be about the details. The graphics will certainly be better. One thing that hurts this new gen is the fact that console games still look good. DOA 3 is over 3 years old but still looks pretty.

The DOA 4 screenshots look nice but, are those wrinkles in the clothes textures or real wrinkles? I'm hoping they are done in real time. I hope i'm correct!

I saw the Xbox 360 thing tonight. My biggest problem is that they didn't show anything new. New games, old genres. That sucks. For now my money is safe in my pocket.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[PS2Hawk]

I have to say that SWAT 4 on PC looks better than anything MS showed on the MTV.

With all the HYPE since Jan I have to say I was really disappointed. But I will get the xbox 360 not at launch but at the first price drop.

[SirDrexl]

and why is the connector on the frontside of the controller and not on the backside,huh?Can you plug it on some sort of loading-station?

Are you talking about the part where there's a little circle between the two oval-shaped things? I think that may be where you plug in the Live headset, but I don't know.

I think what the main difference will be with the next generation (besides the little details like better textures and shading) will be the support of higher resolutions. This generation of consoles is just not well equipped to handle HDTV resolutions, so few games support it because the frame rate would suffer too much. I can understand not caring if you don't have an HDTV or VGA display to take advantage of it, but those who do will definitely appreciate that every game will support 720p and/or higher.

[Cmosfm]

There's barely any difference in what already can be done with the current consoles!

Wow, I am by no means a "graphics whore". But to say there is barely any difference is, well funny.

Look at the freaking level of detail in every aspect of all the SS, all I can say if the games look that good in real time. That in my eyes will be a HUGE jump in graphics... you say tomato I say tomahto I guess

DETAIL, maybe, yes. But if I am going to buy a new console, I want a major improvement, I want to be able to look at a screenshot and with one glance, be able to tell that it's for a new console, not have to get really close and look for the detail in the characters eyes.

A quick timeline...

http://www.download-free-games.com/images/combat.jpg
http://dorando.emuverse.com/images/super-mario-bros.e_02.png
http://www.consolepassion.co.uk/images/reviews/super-mario-world/mario3.jpg
http://www.retrogaming.it/psx/rdgrcrev_screen005.jpg
http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/xbox/doa3_2.jpg

All major improvements, now let's compare DOA3 with DOA4...

http://www.quartertothree.com/reviews/DOA3/doa3_2.jpg
http://img182.echo.cx/img182/7930/12050516094313big7zw.jpg

Where's the difference? Oh, wait, you can see the door in the background a little clearer.

Don't get me wrong, I'll buy the system if the games are great, but as of now, I'm just seeing more of the same. I'm not a complete graphics whore, but they mean a lot to me when giving up 300.00+ of my hard earned money.

[Promophile]

I totally agree with Cmosfm, I'm not impressed at all. Maybe its finnaly time for me to witdraw from modern gaming completely. I guess I'll get a 360 in 3 years when the 720 comes out.

[petewhitley]

Where's the difference? Oh, wait, you can see the door in the background a little clearer.

Don't get me wrong, I'll buy the system if the games are great, but as of now, I'm just seeing more of the same. I'm not a complete graphics whore, but they mean a lot to me when giving up 300.00+ of my hard earned money.

I don't think you can make a fair comparison from static screenshots of pre-release games. We've been at the stage where people basically look like people since the beginning of this current generation. What will change is the general refinement in quality and quantity of what we see now. I would anticipate ultimately a difference which approximates the shift from the NES to the SNES, as opposed to the radical shift in perspetive from the SNES to the N64. Thus, let's wait until we see some video clips longer than 3 seconds before we call hogwash on this new technology.

[Cmosfm]

Where's the difference? Oh, wait, you can see the door in the background a little clearer.

Don't get me wrong, I'll buy the system if the games are great, but as of now, I'm just seeing more of the same. I'm not a complete graphics whore, but they mean a lot to me when giving up 300.00+ of my hard earned money.

I don't think you can make a fair comparison from static screenshots of pre-release games. We've been at the stage where people basically look like people since the beginning of this current generation. What will change is the general refinement in quality and quantity of what we see now. I would anticipate ultimately a difference which approximates the shift from the NES to the SNES, as opposed to the radical shift in perspetive from the SNES to the N64. Thus, let's wait until we see some video clips longer than 3 seconds before we call hogwash on this new technology.

I'm not calling hogwash, but even early early shots show us what the system can do. Honestly, do you really think were going to see a huge leap over the pictures that were already posted? more minor detail things, but nothing major, just minor details.

I'm waiting for the leap from this...

http://img182.echo.cx/img182/7930/12050516094313big7zw.jpg

to this...

http://img150.echo.cx/img150/2400/chiakikb110zl.jpg

I know, I'm being stubborn, but that's the only big leap that I can think of that's going to make me really jump out of my seat and go "WOW! I WILL BUY THIS ON LAUNCH DAY!"

[Uzi 9mm]

I am gonna buy it mainly for the games coming- Quake 4, Perfect Dark, Gears of War, etc. Another reason would be for the online play, which will hopefully be available at Launch.

[Daniel Thomas]

The hardware specs are pretty impressive, and I think it's interesting that Microsoft has given up their old fear that Xbox would basically be a gaming-only PC. They're a lot more at peace with that.

I needed some time to absorb the video and think things over a bit. What was shown wasn't all that impressive, aside from the developers' enthusiasm. X360 just seems to be (and I'm repeating myself) a top-end PC that hooks up to your television. But I don't think these first games will really show what the machine is truly capable of. The quality, of course, is better, but the differences over the current consoles seems slight; most people, if they're not looking hard, aren't going to find much, aside from sharper textures.

But, as I said, we'll need more time to see where this goes. Game development budgets are expected to reach 8-digit figures, and that involves a lot of time creating far more detailed and polygon-rich characters and environments. The DOA characters, for instance, don't look any more mobile or detailed from existing pre-rendered footage. And the Perfect Dark shots betray their origins as a Gamecube port.

I'll have to wait for E3 to see what games are headed for the launch. That's really where it all matters. I've also read today that Sony may release the PS3 this year, so we'll get the next console war started fairly quickly. The article I read also noted that only 45% of American households have videogame consoles, and that until developers create some truly new games with a broader appeal (read: not just Doom clones and driving games), the market will stay pretty much where it is right now. So Microsoft is going to have to really start innovating if they want to capture Sony's turf.

Personally, I think they should make a game based on "Timmy and the Giant Space Bug." :P

[spider-man]

I'll pass on the xbox 360 in favor of the ps 3. I want the ps 3 mainly for the upcoming devil may cry 4, metal gear solid 4, silent hill 5, spider-man 3, and the slew of original titles. To me the xbox seems to pc-ish (tons of military/sci-fi fps, and online concentrated titles). The only reason I bought the xbox was for the sega games (not enought japanese games, which is why I love the ps 2 (fatal frame, bujingai, clock tower 3/demento, gradius V, etc.)).

[Archenemy]

As for a media center, I don't care about all that, nor do I care for online gaming. I'm all about solo gaming, just like I had on my NES, just like I have on my Gamecube.

Wow! I though I was the only Lone Wolf around here.

I don't give a damm about Online or Network games. My PC can do EVERYTHING better than a sized down PC called XboX (xyz)

And I DO expect the same Quatum leap forward from 128 to 2^n next generation consoles (256, 512, 1024, you name it)

And... When you're playing a fighting/racing/shooting game, can you REALLY pay that much attention to non important details like the shadows on the curtains, the painting on the dresser or the threads of the carpet?

REALLY??? :hmm:

[Richter]

it could just be that Team Ninja are just a bunch of lazy developers. The skin on those character models just look like plastic. There's no scarring, blemishes, skin color variations, arm hair

[DCVision]

A lot of my friends have xbox live... yet I have no intentions on getting (or ever had) intetions of getting an xbox.

The thought of being able to play with friends online (and around the world) never really appealed to me until recently.
I checked out a buddies xbox with live setup and it was pretty nice considering. I won't get it now especially since the 360 is coming out but I can see where the 360 is going to be much better in many areas that will interest me.

The VLM alone is reason for me to get it (Huge fan of Jeff Minter and his work) so aside from that... if the price is right and there are games I know I'll enjoy then I'm sold.

Also note my most recent system is a Dreamcast so this will be an acceptable jump for me.

I'm looking forward to seeing how many 3rd party developers jump on and what titles they will be bringing out.
After all - it's all about the games and how much fun you can have....

I never thought I'd see the day I'd actually considering buying a M$ box :)

[Wavelflack]

As for a media center, I don't care about all that, nor do I care for online gaming. I'm all about solo gaming, just like I had on my NES, just like I have on my Gamecube.

Wow! I though I was the only Lone Wolf around here.

I don't give a damm about Online or Network games. My PC can do EVERYTHING better than a sized down PC called XboX (xyz)

And I DO expect the same Quatum leap forward from 128 to 2^n next generation consoles (256, 512, 1024, you name it)

And... When you're playing a fighting/racing/shooting game, can you REALLY pay that much attention to non important details like the shadows on the curtains, the painting on the dresser or the threads of the carpet?

REALLY??? :hmm:

1. How much did you spend on your PC?
2. How much longer before you have to upgrade your PC?
3. How much more will upgrading cost?

[DCVision]

As for a media center, I don't care about all that, nor do I care for online gaming. I'm all about solo gaming, just like I had on my NES, just like I have on my Gamecube.

Wow! I though I was the only Lone Wolf around here.

I don't give a damm about Online or Network games. My PC can do EVERYTHING better than a sized down PC called XboX (xyz)

And I DO expect the same Quatum leap forward from 128 to 2^n next generation consoles (256, 512, 1024, you name it)

And... When you're playing a fighting/racing/shooting game, can you REALLY pay that much attention to non important details like the shadows on the curtains, the painting on the dresser or the threads of the carpet?

REALLY??? :hmm:

1. How much did you spend on your PC?
2. How much longer before you have to upgrade your PC?
3. How much more will upgrading cost?

Funny you say that because to get my system up to speed is going to get me for about $330.
3200 + 6600GT.

PC Gaming rigs dont' have to cost $1000's+ it's just psychos tend to think they actually need 256MB $450 cards (or dare I say SLI setups) just to play the friggin games.
(but, I want to play it at 1600friggin x 1200 reslolution with settings beyond what the game does in the first place) anyways...

For around $750 you can have a decent gaming rig... but not if you want a 4000 AMD 64 with again, the $450+ video card and a GIG of 'special' costly memory.

It'd be nice to get a 360 for less then what it costs for a top-end video card today. Hell , who knows... maybe the xbox360 will retail for $359 ;)

[Archenemy]

1. How much did you spend on your PC?
2. How much longer before you have to upgrade your PC?
3. How much more will upgrading cost?

1. $2000 for a Compaq Presario, about 3 or 4 years ago (when Flat Screens Monitors, DVD Burners, 768 MB RAM and Radean All in Wonder 7200 were fresh)
2. I had a P 233 MMX 32Mb RAM for 6 years before buying a new one. I tend to use things until they cannot give more :P
3. I don't know and I simply don't give a damm about it, because my current PC (P4 1.8 GHz 768Mb RAM 64 Mb VRAM) will still serve me for another couple of years.

I stay for 9-14 hours a day in front of a 21" LED Monitor of my IBM Workstation. Believe me, after that, the last thing you want is TO SIT AGAIN in front of another Monitor to play games I can play better in my couch or my bed...

I like to sit confortable in a couch with my TV and Hometheater to play my games. I don't find any pleasure of siting in a chair for hours to play PC games I simply don't like.

So I come again. Multimedia Center? My PC does it far better, all I want when I turn on my game console is to play my game, you know? :hmm:

[spider-man]

I agree completely. I'm hate how just about every game has the rpg syndrome (i.e. long ass intro). I dread the day when consoles mimick pcs completely (patchs, registration, cd key #).