Nintendo Revolution... interesting movie

[howdoin]

This is most likely a fake but nonetheless a very fun and interesting presentation to watch.

(originally posted by Vlad on ng.com)

http://onefed.com/html/on.html


Discuss, I'll reserve my POV for a further post after more people have watched it.

[joshnickerson]

Up until the point they revealed the system and headset, maybe real, but after that, fake-a-roonie.

[Kilik Kurosawa]

yeah i would agree with the above, N has already discribed some of the design as a sleek system no larger than 3 dvd cases in width. cool presentation nonetheless, although Mario looked a little weird

[Veepa]

Yeah... It was a pretty well done, but I'm sure it was fake.. I mean take a look at their Mario.. He looked like Luigi in Mario's overalls.

[Slipdeath]

It all went downhill when they showed a skinny Mario.

[RetroYoungen]

yeah i would agree with the above, N has already discribed some of the design as a sleek system no larger than 3 dvd cases in width. cool presentation nonetheless, although Mario looked a little weird

Totally. It's a really nice presetation, and the castle at the end looked pretty sweet. I'll admit, I was pretty suckered in. Even Samus looked realy good.

Then "Mario" showed up. Eww.

But overall, pretty sweet. Not to be taken seriously, just to be enjoyed.

[Super Mario Fan]

That seems a little too far fetched to be tre. But, that mario had to be fake. It looks like he had a mental defect or something.

[Tony Montana]

Yeah probably fake but damn if it wasnt Nintendo might actually have a chance to not turn into a company like Sega making games for everyone elses systems.

[youruglyclone]

wow I have to admit the quality of the presentation was pretty up there...but then they showed the toaster and the crappy renders...I mean sure if Metroid prime didn't happen I'd believe that would be a passable Samus...but it did. none the less the environments were very nice.

[calthaer]

Very convincing fake, if fake it is.

I, too, hope it isn't though. That thing looks very sweet.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

I need to change my pants...

This one is hard. I cant tell if its a fake the production values on it are VERY VERY VERY high, and I just dont see someone going through all this trouble. Unless Nintendo actually did do this to fuck with people....

[intvsama]

My two cents -

If it's fake, someone put a LOT of time into it. It looks damn good. I dunno about your ends, but on my system it ends rather abrubtly after Mario starts running. Perhaps this is when he read about Nintendo talking about the size specs of the system and didn't go further, who knows.

About how Mario looks different, as some of you guys may recall a while back Nintendo did talk about changing Mario, about removing his "kiddy" imagry, yet retaining the classic Mario style.

Like I said, if it's a forgery, it's a damn quality forgery. Someone spent a lot of time and energy into this project to simply fool the gaming community.

Me? I'll believe it when I see it later this month. I generally don't buy into the hype unless I know the source is rather reliable. This seems like just some random video put out on the net to make people start thinking. Perhaps Big N is behind it, who knows.

[max 330 mega]

oh man, please let this be real.. that video was fucking beautiful. marry me nintendo.

[tonyvortex]

looking at how well done that is i just think its some people trying to get a job.it looks like something to show people to get people interested in your skills.

[JJNova]

yeah i would agree with the above, N has already discribed some of the design as a sleek system no larger than 3 dvd cases in width. cool presentation nonetheless, although Mario looked a little weird

"N" has not made this claim. IGN reported that **** made that comment. IGN, who is infamous for making up reports, or simply creating articles that are so incorrect that they might as well be fabrications. Other people picked up on it, and now every site, including Gamasutra, are reporting it like it's a fact, although each article is near identical in wording.

In short, the big "N" didn't say it would be less than an inch in height. One individual is. Normally, something like this would have been a Press release, or revealed through a media source (i.e. - Developer interview). It may be true, but I wouldn't be tossing my pennies in that jar just this minute.

[CartCollector]

With the introductory sequence, I wonder why the makers went with the Japanese release dates, but with the U.S. names. Another thing is the makers skipped over the Game Boy Color. Next, how would a VR headset notice the movement of your feet and hands without sensors? And how could you walk around while playing a game when the game's map is probably different from your house, thus forcing you to run in to walls? I'm going with fake. Very likely fake.

[Humanoid]

I'm going to stick with very well done hoax on this one. though my heart wishes otherwise. True VR would make me a recluse, though so maybe I dont wish it. Sorry to get off topic a little, but has anyone else wondered about the addictive qualitys of *good* VR?

[Wavelflack]

With the introductory sequence, I wonder why the makers went with the Japanese release dates, but with the U.S. names. Another thing is the makers skipped over the Game Boy Color. Next, how would a VR headset notice the movement of your feet and hands without sensors? And how could you walk around while playing a game when the game's map is probably different from your house, thus forcing you to run in to walls? I'm going with fake. Very likely fake.

As far as the motion element is concerned, the video showed a "person" taking one step forward while indicating a "RUN" command.
This is how I've always imagined a home VR system (or any linear motion tracking VR system) would have to work. You couldn't require a person to take literal steps as an analogue to the videogame steps. For one thing, this would physically draining (as anyone who used an Activator or even the power glove could tell you). 2nd, you have the issue of real world space vs. game world space. It seems obvious, but the question has been raised and I'll address it: You can't have a VR system require literal linear/lateral movement, because unless the game consists of being enclosed in a 10'X20' room, you'll run into a wall, you'll have to turn, and that will be that.
What would be most likely is that real world "gestures" would translate into game actions. Think about it like a Segway scooter. You lean forward, and you go forward. Center and stop. Lean back and go backward. Take a step and move faster (ie; run). You could accomplish all of your basic movements within a 3 foot radius, if even that. Jumping would probably a button command, so that it's not a physical limitation or demand for the user.
Detection would be easy by using internal accelerometers, optical motion tracking (like they use in TV/ movies/ eyetoy?), or triangulation via outboard sensors. I doubt they would bother with the 3rd option these days.

Anyway, I don't see anything unreasonable presented.

[evilmess]

yeah i would agree with the above, N has already discribed some of the design as a sleek system no larger than 3 dvd cases in width. cool presentation nonetheless, although Mario looked a little weird

"N" has not made this claim. IGN reported that **** made that comment. IGN, who is infamous for making up reports, or simply creating articles that are so incorrect that they might as well be fabrications. Other people picked up on it, and now every site, including Gamasutra, are reporting it like it's a fact, although each article is near identical in wording.

In short, the big "N" didn't say it would be less than an inch in height. One individual is. Normally, something like this would have been a Press release, or revealed through a media source (i.e. - Developer interview). It may be true, but I wouldn't be tossing my pennies in that jar just this minute.

The press release at nintendo.com (http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=9594f668-5342-4b38-8eb1-d6bf479c4139&page=other)
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In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer. The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.

3 standard dvd cases are about 1.75 inches in height when stacked on their sides.

The movie is cool as hell but theres no way its the real deal, a nice fantasy video though!

[SamuraiSmurfette]

Whatever happened to the notion of using the DS's touch screen as wireless controllers? Am I the only one who's heard that?

[JJNova]

yeah i would agree with the above, N has already discribed some of the design as a sleek system no larger than 3 dvd cases in width. cool presentation nonetheless, although Mario looked a little weird

"N" has not made this claim. IGN reported that **** made that comment. IGN, who is infamous for making up reports, or simply creating articles that are so incorrect that they might as well be fabrications. Other people picked up on it, and now every site, including Gamasutra, are reporting it like it's a fact, although each article is near identical in wording.

In short, the big "N" didn't say it would be less than an inch in height. One individual is. Normally, something like this would have been a Press release, or revealed through a media source (i.e. - Developer interview). It may be true, but I wouldn't be tossing my pennies in that jar just this minute.

The press release at nintendo.com (http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=9594f668-5342-4b38-8eb1-d6bf479c4139&page=other)
rip
In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer. The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.

3 standard dvd cases are about 1.75 inches in height when stacked on their sides.

The movie is cool as hell but theres no way its the real deal, a nice fantasy video though!

And for my nex act, I will demonstrate the art of evading complete embarassment by pointing out that it wasn't included in the press release. :P

[Daniel Thomas]

I understand IGN has declared this video to be a hoax. It's a little odd, though; the production values are far too high for this to merely be the work of some teenagers with a lot of spare time. Perhaps this is a decoy from Nintendo themselves. I remember pictures from a Microsoft meeting with a prototype Xbox 360 that turned out to be a fake. It's a good way to keep the spies off the track, as well as discover if there are any employees spilling secrets.

Edit: Deleted the rest of this post, so please disregard and ignore it. My mistake for not reading further along in that site's blog thread. Gomen nasai.

[CartCollector]

Whatever happened to the notion of using the DS's touch screen as wireless controllers? Am I the only one who's heard that?
That was an April Fool's joke.

[Mattiekrome]

Man that is a beautiful fakie commercial. Seroius props to the one who has the talent to make that up. @_@