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pragmatic insanester
05-15-2005, 07:06 AM
still debating this to myself, so someone needs to throw in their opinions until i can get a result.

by the way: this refers to the entire series, not the original games alone.

Nez
05-15-2005, 07:19 AM
While both have there fair share of pallette swaping I like the digital animations of MK the best.

I just liked the realism that each charictor has, it just looked right. I cant really explain (MO).

I never really liked the SF crew, Chun Li has allways disturbed me with her giant weight lifters legs. And how many charictors are wearing Martial arts robe, like 5 6?

pragmatic insanester
05-15-2005, 07:45 AM
i wish more games would return to digital animation. it has a raw kind of attachment, and would be refreshing to the latest bland polygonal character models.

tylerwillis
05-15-2005, 09:10 AM
Personally, I prefer SF. MK just seemed kinda... bland?

pookninja
05-15-2005, 09:39 AM
i would say street fighter.the fighters have more personality,and are cooler in my opinion(of course,i would rather have my games 2d and done in a anime/cartoon style).mortal kombat is fun,but i never did care for the digital fighters.

AB Positive
05-15-2005, 09:45 AM
The digital fighters actuallly bother me, I could never really get into MK that much because of it. Plus, I'm a huge SF nut so I'm going to give them the nod here.

what's wrong with weightlifter legs on women anyay?

-AG

Dangerboy
05-15-2005, 09:58 AM
Street Fighter all the way. More animation frames, more personal touches to it thanks to animation and drawing styles, and the fact that the sprite characters actually match their surroundings. After MK2, it seemed like Midway just didn't give a rats ass and had the most bland, non-style-conforming backgrounds and costumes ever.

Not only that, they didn't care about animation where it needed it most. MK3 has so many visual glitches (a human gets eaten at the torso head to waist yet his hands still float, body gets chopped into three bits and the pieces fall nicely in place, heads get chopped off and bodies don't fall, etc....)

Plus, I mean c'mon, BMX Armored Ninjas and Robots?
Whose the Lin Kuei leader, Mat Hoffman O_o

Second, MK has the copy and paste bug worse.

Third, Chun-Li would HAVE to have those huge of legs to perform lightning kicks and carry herself across a stage upside down and kick that hard.

That said, MK Has come a HUGE way since it was given to a new team (with the saner of the Boon/Tobias team in charge) and went to actual polygon graphics. The designs in Deception were absolutely fantastic, but it still doesn't have the little animations that make games like Street Fighter and anything SNK puts out so much fun to play.

Nebagram
05-15-2005, 09:59 AM
I preferred the MK characters too. I guess I'm just more of a "gritty realism" kind of guy. That and Kano in particular was cool. :)

Gamereviewgod
05-15-2005, 10:41 AM
Dangerboy said it best. It's that personal touch that makes Street Fighter look so great. To me, It's like Mortal Kombat is nothing but copies of other ideas. Not that Street Fighter isn't, but it's obvious with MK who they're copying, whether it be the competition or Hollywood.

squidblatt
05-15-2005, 10:51 AM
SF for me, too. I don't mind MK, but most of the designs lack character. I still like many of them, but SF has personality where MK just has a generic "mature" look.

Mr.FoodMonster
05-15-2005, 10:55 AM
MK. Mainly because I hate SF 3rd Strike and all the MK charaters have always looked good.

MegaDrive20XX
05-15-2005, 11:41 AM
The digital fighters actuallly bother me, I could never really get into MK that much because of it. Plus, I'm a huge SF nut so I'm going to give them the nod here.

what's wrong with weightlifter legs on women anyay?

-AG

That reminds me of how many arguements we used to have about "Digitized Graphics" Vs. "Animated Graphics"

During 6th and 7th grade, when I was a kid, the heated discussions over mortal kombat and street fighter were quite tense.

I use to support Mortal Kombat alot, especially during 1993-1994.

It wasn't until Street Fighter Alpha came out, that I learned to accept Street Fighter series for what it's truly worth.

Character design, goes to Street Fighter. Yet the last two MK games are quite top notch

imanerd0011
05-15-2005, 11:50 AM
I perfer the graphics in Mortal Kombat. Mainly because when they came out, there wasn't much like it. The fact that it looked so real, made it stand out from the rest of the games out at the time.

Moon Patrol
05-15-2005, 11:56 AM
Mortal Kombat II was the first game I owned for my genesis, and man, it was bad assed. There was something cool about throwing a spear at someone and blood flying out of the sprite that made it awesome! I really didn't like Street Fighter because all you have to do to beat the damn game is beat the hell out of the buttons while playing as E. Honda and hope you hit the shit out of everyone with that cheap attack. Same goes for that Tekken game with the break dancing guy, is it Eddy? Its like a two button combo that is damn near impossible to stop.

I actually lost all respect for Street Fighter when that movie came out, at least the MK movie wasn't THAT retarded.

Milk
05-15-2005, 12:02 PM
Looking back on the original Mortal Kombat, it's kind of like playing one of those old films where the monsters are all stop-motion figures or guys in rubber suits. The later games in the series also look pretty cheesy. Street Fighter has aged better.

gepeto
05-15-2005, 12:15 PM
I say mk characters were way 2 stiff and lack a variety of animation. Street fighter had the a variety of animation and way more characters and tons more depth. once you got pass the mk wow factor of fatalities nothing. block uppercut, sweep. Truth be told if it wasn't for the fatalities blood and gore it would have gone the route of pit fighter.

Lemmy Kilmister
05-15-2005, 12:20 PM
how many charictors are wearing Martial arts robe, like 5 6?


Yeah, but How many ninjas and robots were in the MK series?

kirin jensen
05-15-2005, 12:25 PM
Morgana from Darkstalkers, my chilluns.

Ed Oscuro
05-15-2005, 12:30 PM
Is this a bad joke?

Mortal Kombat's Sekktor was damned impressive back when I was 11, though...

@ kirin: Morgana? You mean Morrigan? I've never seen it spelled that way...oh, and Felicia is better. Rikuo was awesome...'fore they canned him like a tuna :L

Sylentwulf
05-15-2005, 12:44 PM
I'd have to go with Mortal Kombat myself. More originality, and realistic characters. Street fighter has, lets se... martial artist characters......um.... deejay, T hawk, Blanka.....uh.... oh, and normal guys....

Mortal Kombat has a thunder god, a dead guy, mutants, four armed freaks, sadistic bastards, and a LOT of pallette swapping, granted....

Ed Oscuro
05-15-2005, 01:55 PM
Mortal Kombat has a thunder god, a dead guy, mutants, four armed freaks, sadistic bastards, and a LOT of pallette swapping, granted....
So much for "realism," then! What MK has: a white guy pretending to be an Asian Thunder god ("Like, put on a big round hat like those monks and guys in rice paddies wear"), a police officer (becuz it's cool to pull out a gat during a fistfight. To SERVE and...serve 'em good, I guess), somebody with way too many arms, the muscular black guy with cybernetic arms, a Jackie Chan wannabe, a guy that yells "GET OVER HERE" a lot, and robots that shoot missiles or nifty neon webs inspired by Tron or something. Of course, they can all turn into animals, too.

No offense meant, but the MK team was trying to appeal to a large crowd, instead of creating nuance or realism. Well, I guess their spines come out really realistically...the funny thing is that I feel the MK series has gone far downhill from what was originally a pretty solid (if cliched) lineup, trying but failing to serve up shock value and "edgy" characters (edgy like a POLYGON).

If you want realistic looking characters, go check out Sega's Holosseum or Michell's "The Karate Tournament." I don't think either plays as well as MK (certainly Holosseum plays like hell), but there's your realism. For me, even the fighters in Mace are more interesting than those in MK.

Sebastian
05-15-2005, 02:09 PM
Plus, I mean c'mon, BMX Armored Ninjas and Robots?


LOL that line just made my day

Yea my vote goes to SF ....altho i just bought Mortal Kombat for SNES LOL

Wavelflack
05-15-2005, 04:36 PM
"I really didn't like Street Fighter because all you have to do to beat the damn game is beat the hell out of the buttons while playing as E. Honda and hope you hit the shit out of everyone with that cheap attack"

...And hope that fireballs, long kicks, and jumping punches have been magically disabled on that machine..

evildead2099
05-15-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm a hafta go with the Street Fighter series. The first two installments of the MK series featured excellent character design, but it all went downhill from there. SNK's games (Samurai Shodown, King of Fighters, etc) and Guilty Gear feature even better character design, however.

junglehunter
05-16-2005, 01:09 AM
I'll have to go with Street Fighter on this one. I hated most of the animations with MK (especially the continuing punches/kicks).

IMO, it also felt like when I played MK, I was literally controlling a character constructed of paper/cardboard. It was hella stiff. Street Fighter felt like I was actually controller a digital being, albeit animated. :/

-hellvin-
05-16-2005, 01:29 AM
Street Fighter.

Lots of great memorable characters and great animation. As for Mortal Kombat....ehhh, most of the digital characters looked cool but their designs were too damn generic. They made a few unique ones here and there, but how many damn ninjas do they need??

Scorpion
Sub Zero
Reptile
Smoke
Noob Saibot
Ermac

.....ugh. Then there's the robot ninjas and female ninjas which all have a clone or two. They basically just got lazy and said "Hey, this time it's an orange hidden ninja!".

Street Fighter did have a lot of ryu clones and what not but at least there was a little bit of difference between their design other than a pallette swap.

Bluteg
05-16-2005, 02:13 AM
Street Fighter had 3 Ryu clones

Ryu
Ken
Dan
Akuma

So that 4 to 6

Street Fighter with the edge.

pragmatic insanester
05-16-2005, 05:35 AM
yeah, but the mk clones were moreso visually similar than sharing a movelist.

Immutable
05-16-2005, 09:49 AM
I was heavily into MK 1-3 back in the 90's, but if it weren't for the fatalities and animalities and the everythingelse-alities, I wouldn't have been into it. And I agree with Milk, SF2 ages much better.

Heck, SF2 practically started the modern fighting genre. Comparing MK to SF2 is like comparing Krull to Star Wars. Heh.

SF2 for me. :)