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Someone
05-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Which Gen had the highest rate of fanboyism.
For example... I the 16-bit gen I remember (in my school) there were schoolyard fights between kid who like Nintendo and kids who liked Sega.
Anyway I was remembering this and I was wondering what
was the opinion of the Digital Press boards.

jaybird
05-24-2005, 12:10 PM
Definitely the current get (not sure if that's 128-bit).

I don't remember too much of it back in the day (8 or 16-bit), and now with the internet & message boards it's a thousand times worse than it ever could have been back then.

Trevor Belmont
05-24-2005, 12:27 PM
I see what jaybird's saying, and I agree to a point, but I remember it being really bad back when the SNES/Genesis were the big two. Then again, I was about 11 years old at the time, so that might have something to do with it.

I remember kids getting into fights over this sort of thing too. I also remember reading magazine articles that would have one kid saying how much he loved the Genesis, for example, and that he would never buy an SNES, etc. I never really understood the whole "fanboy" thing to begin with; I actually had a SNES and a Turbo Duo at the time and loved them both. I remember taking so much flack for having a Duo at the time when it was first released; it was practically unheard of. All I knew though was that Ys was the greatest thing I had ever seen, heard, or played.

I voted 16-bit, but simply because that's what I grew up with and remembered most. Although I do remember it getting pretty bad between the PSX and the N64, and, to a lesser extent, the Saturn. I was actually just reading an old Gamefan article the other day about how this kid was so in love with the N64 and how much of a Nintendo fanboy he was, and how the N64 would destroy the PSX, etc. At least he admitted his fanboyism, I suppose.

sabre2922
05-24-2005, 12:38 PM
I think this generation.

Example: I have a friend that will play NOTHING BUT PS2 :angry: it drives me freakin crazy :bad-words: he is sooo closed minded when it comes to ANY other systems even upcoming systems about the only the hes interested in is the PS3 of course.

The only exception is Shenmue on Dreamcast he played through that game like 3 times and even bought his own copy looked for like 3 months for one when I loned him my DC but THAT IS IT.

I showed him RE4 on GC when it was first released he was very impressed but says "it should have been on PS2 it would have looked just as good" :frustrated:

its sooo f$ckin Frustrating LOL

Retsudo
05-24-2005, 12:48 PM
I never knew what a fanboy was until I got a computer. Back in the 16 bit era, I never seen or heard of anyone fighting or arguing over videogame systems. At least not in my hood. We had more important things to argue about.

GamerNerd
05-24-2005, 01:33 PM
I also say 128-bit, because everytime I watch these shows on G4 or post at their boards, I hear all the BS talk about Halo & the Madden series games and crap like that. Do you see me being a "fanboy"? No, because I'm never a fanboy unlike them. The word "fanboy" is overused & over-rated.

MegaDrive20XX
05-24-2005, 01:36 PM
128-bit, ugh that is the worst group between the three...

Screw those kids! They never knew AND never WILL know what "gameplay" is, if it bite them on the ass!...*hugs my Genesis*

Well Trevor is correct, Genesis and SNES bashing days were horrible, yet nothing as bad as the Xbox/GameCube/PS2 days of today

as for Saturn Vs. PSX Vs. N64 days (32-bit) When I was growing up, nobody hardly knew what a SATURN was :(

goatdan
05-24-2005, 01:42 PM
What the hell do those generations mean?

I would say 16 bit, but I don't remember anyone getting up in arms about the Intellivision. I would say 128 bit, but the Xbox fans fit right in with those, and they're in the 32 bit classification.

I guess I'm going to go with 64-bit. The competition between the Jaguar fans and the N64 fans got super heated, I'm sure.

PDorr3
05-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Todays generation. Never before have I ever witnessed so much bashing of nintendo, or hatred for xbox, it truly is the era of the fanboys.

bargora
05-24-2005, 02:58 PM
I showed him RE4 on GC when it was first released he was very impressed but says "it should have been on PS2 it would have looked just as good" :frustrated:

its sooo f$ckin Frustrating LOL
I was going to direct you to this thread, (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52649) but then I noticed that you had started the thread!

So I guess you'll have a chance to spoon-feed your friend his words when Capcom gets done whining and finishes the port. LOL

Avatard
05-24-2005, 03:14 PM
The 64bit era without a doubt. There were LOTS of N64 vs. PSx wars online. Its nothign today like it was back then. Not even slightly close.

I remember Antagonist facilitating those wars, it was so much fun back them. LOL

Now for annoying market analysis and petty crap I'd say this generation. The all out war was fun, this "such and such a company is going to wither because of thier choice of release date" is boring, I'd rather watch Lawrence Welk with my grandma.

YoshiM
05-24-2005, 03:53 PM
I don't think this poll is really going to give a good representation of which generation had more "fanboyism" than another. The reason why is that we didn't know opinions of others beyond our home/schools/town. If there was debate, it was generally local, like someone mentioning the schoolyard skirmishes. You really didn't know anyone beyond your town except maybe a handful of friends or relation. Unless you signed onto a BBS (which even then the distribution was pretty limited), you really couldn't voice your opinion beyond your circle of friends or whomever you spoke to on the phone. Thanks to the web (which has gotten affordable for practically everyone and is available almost everywhere in some form) and the recent popularity of message boards (what, last 5 years?) now anyone who has an opinion can share it without fear thanks to the benefit of anonymity.

link1110
05-24-2005, 04:13 PM
Final Fantasy 7, need I say more?

32-bit.

stuffedmonkey
05-24-2005, 04:49 PM
16-bit, most definately. The whole Nintendorks vs. Genesissies name calling debate.... Back in the era when people's parents would only buy them one system. You had to be in one camp or the other.

Ed Oscuro
05-24-2005, 04:54 PM
Hmm...I can't imagine it's ever been worse than it is now. Give two kids a different video game system, and then lock them in a room in a few months' time = BLOODSHED.

It's not a matter of the debates becoming more passionate than they were were, it's just that you've got the internet to stir up trouble with rumors and let anybody from any camp stumble into enemy territory :P

felix
05-24-2005, 06:50 PM
I used to work at a gamestore and I got SOOOOOO sick of hearing.. "XBOX ROX!!! OMG!!! HALO IS THE ONLY GAME EVA!!!! ASLKDFJQLWEKRJQWLDKFAJSLDKF!!!!!"

Ps2 fanboys were more fanboys of the games on ps2.. not the entire system.

Kejoriv
05-24-2005, 07:00 PM
The current generation of games have the worst fan boys. They can easily voice their opinions with the internet. They are invading our lives: websites, boards, chat rooms, etc etc

drewbrim
05-24-2005, 07:16 PM
In my opinion it's the 16 bit era, a little closer to home since I had a SNES and a Turbo Grafx while my best friend across the street had a Genesis. We used to argue for hours (all while playing at each others homes). Mortal Kombat on the Genny, Street Fighter 2 on the SNES. Not to mention the exclusives to each. Mario, Sonic, Super Punch Out, Strider....Basicallly, the good ol days :)

kainemaxwell
05-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Today's generation. More coverage in the media and th einternet on games and on TV (G4, IGN, etc) then back during the 16-bit wars, also I'd think more at stake for companies that produce these systems then back then as well.

bargora
05-24-2005, 08:02 PM
I used to work at a gamestore and I got SOOOOOO sick of hearing.. "XBOX ROX!!! OMG!!! HALO IS THE ONLY GAME EVA!!!! ASLKDFJQLWEKRJQWLDKFAJSLDKF!!!!!"
Now that you don't work there (and so would just be a customer), you should know that the only proper response to that is "Yeah, Xbox is cool, but Halo is weak shit compared to Steel Battalion."

You could then sympathize with their being too poor to buy and play such an awesome game. ;)

So what if you don't have Steel Battalion? Or even an Xbox? Big deal. Nobody else in the store is going to have SB, so you can make up any shit you want and out-fanboy the fanboys.

Nintendo rules, BTW. I <3 my GBA SP.

namzep
05-24-2005, 08:08 PM
I'd say the 16-bit era. It was always something about how Sonic could beat down Mario or how Michael Jackson's Moon Walker was the greatest game ever (and, yes, several kids at my elementary school really thought this).

suppafly
05-24-2005, 08:25 PM
I voted for 16 bit. We used to have so many fights in my class about snes vs genesis.

Genesis users made fun of mario world (sonic 1 was so much better looking). But by the time street fighter 2 was announced for snes, the genesis users got thrashed.

Those were good times!

Garry Silljo
05-24-2005, 08:38 PM
8 Bit by far. Right now everone has a favorite but many houses have more than 1 or all 3 of the current gen systems. Back in the 8 Bit days, most people never even gave Sega a first look let alone a second. At least today people let a company make their point before crapping on it.

Kilik Kurosawa
05-25-2005, 01:47 AM
i'm an ass i voted for hand-helds, because i think the worst generation for fanbois is now but for the 8-bit Nintendo. so where does my vote go?

FurinkanianFrood
05-25-2005, 02:29 AM
The current gen.

I started out this gen fairly unbiased, but....

I bought a PS2 at launch because there were games I thought I would want in spite of the hardware flaws. After a long string of disappoinments with games over a few years I came to the conclusion that holding on to the damn thing was insane.

I really thought it was amazing how all of the people who abandoned the DC for vastly the inferior PS2 because of empty hype suddenly started saying that it's the games that matter when the GC and XBOX showed up.

A ship full of graphics tarts suddenly saw the light? No....
It was the only defense left to them.

It is the games that matter, but the PS2 has a relatively poor library to this day, and there is no excuse for selling a $300 console that was engineered so poorly.

I know this is supposed to be about the worst fanboyism, and some would cite me as an example of that.

I have come to the conclusion that I am neither a fanboy nor a hypocrite, but rather that I was ripped off by Sony.

Either others are in denial or just have no taste.

Even if you think the PS2 is worth keeping, the GC deserves a better following than it got. Not enough gave it a fair chance IMO. Too many foolishly dismiss it as a kiddie system. That is a load and they know it.

The XBOX looks great or awful depending on the context one judges it in IMO. I like it OK. The 360 doesn't look encouraging......



Back in the 8 Bit days, most people never even gave Sega a first look let alone a second.


They weren't given much of a chance. I gave it a first look and was extremely impressed but I couldn't afford to buy a SMS. I was in grade school.

It wasn't the fans in that case that were the problem IMO, it was Nintendo's tactics.



voted for 16 bit. We used to have so many fights in my class about snes vs genesis.


It was crazy, that's for sure. I preffered SNES until a couple years later when my taste in games changed somewhat (which had a lot to do with how bad I was at certain types of games as a youngster).

There seems to have been quite a load of bias against the Intellivision back in the day, though I was too young to know much about that first hand.

People seem to have largely missed the point of that one, namely the intelligent part (Utopia et al.), as opposed to arcade emphasis.

I've only ever played non Atari consoles from that era for a scant four or five hours added together though, and whoever bought that O2 I played didn't have what should be some of the better games. People are pretty damn unfairly biased against the O2 to this day. I learned that much from the hour or so I spent with one, even with the mediocre selection I got to play.

Bias against the SegaCD and Jag are also rather exaggerated to this day. They are both very much worth having for those who can get their heads out of their.....

Hell, at today's prices, the 32X is pretty cool.....



Ps2 fanboys were more fanboys of the games on ps2.. not the entire system.


Not the ones I've met....... Many were @#$% Nintendo all damn day.

You have a point though. I bought the system because I was a big fan of certain game series. It's just that most of those series got weak to awful PS2 iterations.

The PS2 fans really like spreading anti-N rumours on these boards though.......

Avatard
05-25-2005, 07:42 AM
There was a live and thriving internet in the 64-bit era, maybe most of ya'll weren't online by that time. I've been on the net since '95.... And believe me, there were huge 64-bit wars.
And let me tell ya, those were dark days before the '98 release of Google, we were forced to use Yahoo and Webcrawler. And we walked uphill both ways to school in a flood. Young whippersnappers.

TurboGenesis
05-25-2005, 08:45 AM
I have to say the Playstation era. Look at where video games are today. Thank you sony.

Back in the not so old days of NES, gaming was a niche thing. Yeah you had your moms & dads who played SMB and Duck Hunt but did not get INTO the whole gaming thing. the 16-bit era brought out the competitive side of gaming but still it wasn't huge back then. When I was in middle school and high school (graduated '95) gaming wasn't "cool". Yeah it was cool to fataily defeat someone in MK or to shoot foes to a bloody death in Doom but that was about it.

When Playstation came out it was still niche untill the whole MTV and Final Fantasy VII fiasco. And there you have it. People who don't play games but stand true to their maddens and THPS and swear these are the best games ever. These days its "Hip" to play games.

Captain Wrong
05-25-2005, 03:06 PM
I never knew what a fanboy was until I got a computer. Back in the 16 bit era, I never seen or heard of anyone fighting or arguing over videogame systems. At least not in my hood. We had more important things to argue about.

RIGHT ON! Holy cats, back then, we didn't give a shit. If you had a SNES and I had a Genny, it just ment I could go to your house and play new games and vice versa.

Man, just look up thread at the fanboy posts regarding this generation in this topic merely asking what generation had the worst fanboys. People tend to treat certain companies like invalid members of their family that need constant defending from any disrespect. People just need to let that shit go, stop worrying about being right in the eyes of some anonymous douche on the internet and play their damn games, what ever system you chose. I miss the good old days when it wasn't about chosing a side and it was more about which system you could get moms to spring for.



and WTF? is the "64 bit era"? Jaguar vs. N64 vs. AMD?

boatofcar
05-25-2005, 03:34 PM
I remember arguing with my friends over which was better in the SNES/Genesis days, but when I bought a N64 and my friends bought Playstations, I never argued. I knew the Playstation had won that round, and that the N64 only survived on its quality 1st party titles.

Now that I've *ahem* grown up, I don't have these sorts of conversations anymore, except for when I see them online. Since back then I didn't have internet or had no idea about usenet, I don't know if internet-wise things were as bad as they are today or not.

GarrettCRW
05-25-2005, 03:42 PM
This generation, by far and away.

It's gotten so bad, we have anti-fanboys-fanboys who live to see companies die (mostly against Nintendo, but I freely admit my Microsoft hatred, even if it's rooted in their anti-competitive practices).

pragmatic insanester
05-25-2005, 03:43 PM
although the only one i remember from the retro eras were people bashing my ps1 with their n64, the current generation is probably the most heated. there's so much power in the gaming market these days that its no longer confined to game junkies, but every sweaty highschooler with enough cash to buy whatever the current blockbuster is.

sabre2922
05-25-2005, 04:59 PM
So now PS1 is retro? :bullshit:

pragmatic insanester
05-25-2005, 08:37 PM
"retro

adj : affecting things past"

yeah?

Wavelflack
05-25-2005, 09:33 PM
A: Fanboy is such a stupid word. "Fanboys" are "fans". Football fans will proclaim their love for a particular team, regardless of it's position or standings. Sometimes it's based on their hometown, many times it's not. Their fan status has little to do with a qualitative analysis of the center of their obsession.
Metallica fans will thump their chest when the band produces good music, and will make excuses for them from 1992 on.
Apple fans occasionally have something substantive to say about their "superior" choice, but more often have nothing beter to offer in rationale than "Microsoft sucks".
Ford fans like Fords because Ford Kicks Ass and Chevy Sucks.
Chevy fans like Chevy because Chevy Kicks Ass and Ford Sucks.
On and on
and
on.

They are just fans. Jesus.

B. Answer to the question: 16 Bit era. It was easy to get into system wars arguments, because the SNES was such a piece of shit.

Neil Koch
05-25-2005, 11:02 PM
There was a live and thriving internet in the 64-bit era, maybe most of ya'll weren't online by that time. I've been on the net since '95.... And believe me, there were huge 64-bit wars.
And let me tell ya, those were dark days before the '98 release of Google, we were forced to use Yahoo and Webcrawler.

I started in 93 myself, when there weren't even really WWW sites around, just Telnet BBS's and Usenet newsgroups. If you guys think the flamewars on places like GameFAQs are bad, do a Google search on the old Usenet posts -- death threats, outright racist terms, etc.

Famidrive-16
05-25-2005, 11:36 PM
The 16-bit wasn't really too much of a deal for my time. Most of the kids I knew (and me) owned both an SNES and a Genesis. It's funny, while some on the board were laughed for having a TG16 at my school any kid with that system was like a God or something (that, or a Neo Geo, 3DO, or Jaguar)

In the 64/PSX days, it was either on or the other, even if you owned both. Back when they first came out I think I was the only one at my school who kinda stood up for the 64.

I'd say the nextgen is going to be much, much worse. I mean, look at the E3 reports already.... it's always along the lines of "OH HEY PS3 LOOKS LIKE THE GREATEST THING EVER UNLIKE XCOCK THREEDICKSTY AND WHAT IS A REVOLUTION HAHAH GET IT BECAUSE NINTENDO'S NOT SHOWING ANYTHING HAHSHAHGASS" or something else with the system's rearranged. It's looking pretty fugly.

euronymous
05-26-2005, 01:37 AM
128-bit for sure. The 16 bit wars were good but nothing compares to this genereation due to 4 systems instead of 2. You have people saying the Dreamcast is the best or Gamecube,XBOX, or PS2 whatever. Plus Halo vs GTA the battle of the overrated games. I own all 4 for different reasons but I'd say the worst Fanboy are PS2 ones.

Fuyukaze
05-26-2005, 01:48 AM
I would say this Gen is the worst. If you dont believe me, just read a number of threads here where one system is praised over the others. Look at how many X-box posts there are about how weak, or poor, or what ever crap they want to say about it. Look how the same is said for the PS2 and the Gamecube (no wheres near as much on GC) as well. It happens in gamestores as well. I noticed a small amount of fanboy syndrom in the 80's and the 90's, but it was never so brutal and ugly. Its got to the point I am honestly ashamed and embarised to admit I play games in public. Not because I care what others think of my hobbies, but because I realy dont care to hear what some ass wants to trash on. More often then not all I hear are the same exact reasons that all sound the same. I dont have it, so it must be junk. That or I had it, but sold it off because it was trash. To the last, all I could say was "Rich people sure are different".

zektor
05-26-2005, 02:13 AM
"Genesis Does What Nintendon't"

Fanboyism what pretty bad in the 16-bit days as far as I recall. I remember hearing the goofballs at high school chant this commercial phrase, those that were Sega Genesis fanboys that is. And SNES fanboys had their comebacks as well of course.

But, I voted for the most recent era (128-bit) because I have never seen it this bad...ever in the history of my personal game collecting/playing. And we're talking many many years here kids! :)

hades
05-26-2005, 02:21 AM
I voted 128 just due to the volume on message boards and online chat programs.

Although I did watch two of my friends get into a fist fight in 7th grade because of a SNES vs. Genesis argument. (This being 1992 I think.)