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boredashell
06-08-2005, 02:22 AM
anybody else seen this? thats pretty sweet, although i dont have a huge collection of nes stuff and i wouldnt spend that much on something that isnt licensed thats still cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=8196854531&rd=1

Insaneclown
06-08-2005, 08:04 AM
I am sorry...but I think...that thing is gehy. It's so ugly looking.

rarecube
06-08-2005, 09:04 AM
I am sorry...but I think...that thing is gehy. It's so ugly looking.

Disagree ... I think its quite nice actually, very retro looking, i just wished it played snes games on it.

Oh well... Cant have everything x_x

Darth Sensei
06-08-2005, 09:14 AM
It's gotta perform better than my Game Axe. :roll:

doubledownon11
06-08-2005, 09:16 AM
I am sorry...but I think...that thing is gehy. It's so ugly looking.

Disagree ... I think its quite nice actually, very retro looking, i just wished it played snes games on it.

Oh well... Cant have everything x_x

You mean like this one:

http://img180.echo.cx/img180/9780/snespsmall9rk.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

rarecube
06-08-2005, 09:29 AM
Looks just like a PANDA !!!

WOW @_@






I am sorry...but I think...that thing is gehy. It's so ugly looking.

Disagree ... I think its quite nice actually, very retro looking, i just wished it played snes games on it.

Oh well... Cant have everything x_x

You mean like this one:

http://img180.echo.cx/img180/9780/snespsmall9rk.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

Jagasian
06-08-2005, 10:12 AM
Does that NES portable use an inaccurate NES-on-a-chip? I think it does. That SNES portable, on the other hand, using an official Nintendo SNES circuit board. I would love one of those.

Sauza12
06-08-2005, 10:30 AM
I'm pretty sure that these were made by the same guy, and when he makes them he tears apart a normal system and uses all of those parts to make the portables. If I could remember his website I'd link to it, but alas it escapes me at the moment.

doubledownon11
06-08-2005, 10:57 AM
Yeah, Ben Heckendorn makes them all by hand and uses all original components and boards. No system on a chip crap. Pretty sweet site.

http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/

Jagasian
06-08-2005, 11:58 AM
Yeah, Ben Heckendorn makes them all by hand and uses all original components and boards. No system on a chip crap.


You are wrong, with regards to the NES. He uses the crappiest NES-on-a-Chip, the one from the Super Joy:
http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/NESp%20Page%201.htm

I wouldn't bother going through all of the effort if the end result used a crappy NES-on-a-Chip. I know he uses original circuit boards for his 2600, SNES, and other systems. But not NES.

If you want a portable Famicom, which can play NES games with an adapter, check out the new Pocketfami:
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3566

It is smaller than the NESp, and uses a slightly more accurate NoaC. However, note that it is still a crappy NoaC, so it doesn't have full game compatibility, accurate sound, or accurate video. But then again, the NESp is even worse.

Too bad Nintendo never made an official portable NES with an accurate NoaC inside.

doubledownon11
06-08-2005, 12:02 PM
That's a little surprising. If all of his others are real-deal components, why use the crappy on a chip for the NES? Weird. O_O

ehall
06-08-2005, 12:09 PM
While Heckendorn has made portable Nes's from the Nes on a chip, I think this is one of his full versions, made from a NES.


This system is hand built to last and thoroughly tested. It contains a 5" LCD screen and original Nintendo parts. It accepts the original Nintendo cartridges and plays them flawlessly. It is basically an original Nintendo is a small portable case. Batteries are rechargeable and included.

Jagasian
06-08-2005, 12:14 PM
That's a little surprising. If all of his others are real-deal components, why use the crappy on a chip for the NES? Weird. O_O

Well, the redesigned NES and Famicom might be smaller than the original, but they might not be small enough for a portable. They also might not be power efficient enough for a portable. Also, most people don't know how crappy NoaC's and NES emulators are because they have long since gotten rid of their real NES and games, so they have nothing to compare to. Though some games don't even work at all with these NoaCs and many emulators, so you've got to wonder what most people think when their game doesn't run.

The Flashback 1.0 used a crappy NoaC for playing Atari games! This required the games to be ported to the NoaC. Of course, the Atari crowd is a bit more respectable, so they could notice the differences with their eyes closed. Yet that system still sold over 500,000 units! However, by popular demand, the Flashback 2.0 will use a supposedly accurate 2600-on-a-Chip (2oaC). There is nothing stopping it from being identical in accuracy to the real thing. If so, there is nothing wrong with systems on a chip.

But it has yet to be done for any system other than the GBC, which was successfully made into a system on a chip by Nintendo for their GBA systems. Further argument for why Nintendo needs to get off their butts and make official systems on a chip for all of their old consoles.

Darth Sensei
06-08-2005, 12:15 PM
Of course you can play almost all the old games on a GBA and flashcart anyway.

Jagasian
06-08-2005, 12:23 PM
While Heckendorn has made portable Nes's from the Nes on a chip, I think this is one of his full versions, made from a NES.


This system is hand built to last and thoroughly tested. It contains a 5" LCD screen and original Nintendo parts. It accepts the original Nintendo cartridges and plays them flawlessly. It is basically an original Nintendo is a small portable case. Batteries are rechargeable and included.

I stand corrected. This is made using a real NES board:
http://benheck.com/Games/Project%2042%20Page.htm

Ok, this is definitely worth the money then. I just wish I had the spare money to buy it. Considering that all other portable Famicoms and NES systems use a crappy NoaC, this is literally a one of a kind system. The only thing cooler than a portable NES, are the portable 2600's that Ben makes. The wood grain finish adds a certain cool factor lacking in any other portable.

Dammit, I am seriously considering buying this... I just need to resist for another 2 days.

doubledownon11
06-08-2005, 12:44 PM
I want a portable Colecovision! :D

slurpeepoop
06-08-2005, 06:33 PM
They also might not be power efficient enough for a portable.

He made a PS2 portable around Christmastime last year, didn't he?

http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/PS2pMainPic2.jpg

jonjandran
06-08-2005, 10:11 PM
If you want a portable Famicom, which can play NES games with an adapter, check out the new Pocketfami:
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3566

It is smaller than the NESp, and uses a slightly more accurate NoaC. However, note that it is still a crappy NoaC, so it doesn't have full game compatibility, accurate sound, or accurate video. But then again, the NESp is even worse.


I have one of these and add a crappy screen to the list of negatives for it.

It has a poor refresh rate and horrible clarity and lighting.

Definitely not worth it. Just get a DS and a GBA Flashcart.

scooby105
06-08-2005, 10:36 PM
hes got a book out with details and pictures on how to make lots of his systems
its sitting on my floor
i havent gotten around to making anything yet

Jagasian
06-09-2005, 10:12 AM
The NES emulators for the GBA aren't the most accurate in the world, and they don't even nearly have complete game compatibility (Elite and many other fun games just aren't playable). Even popular games such as Super Mario Bros 3 have slight graphical glitches due to emulation limitations. I own a GBASP and a GBA flash cart, so I'd know.

doubledownon11
06-09-2005, 10:34 AM
I've played an NES emulator on a Dreamcast, and while having all the games is nice, the accuracy, especially the frame rate, is horrible.

Jagasian
06-09-2005, 01:58 PM
I have been into emulation since pre-Nesticle days. The way I look at it is that it is good to have both, but when possible I try to play the real thing. So if something is impossible or too expensive to obtain in the real, then I play it in the fake, i.e. emulation.

drummy
06-10-2005, 01:36 PM
Yeah, Ben Heckendorn makes them all by hand and uses all original components and boards. No system on a chip crap. Pretty sweet site.

http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/
I remember I read an article about him on EGM...

PrototypeFC3S
06-10-2005, 06:52 PM
Looks just like a PANDA !!!

WOW @_@






I am sorry...but I think...that thing is gehy. It's so ugly looking.

Disagree ... I think its quite nice actually, very retro looking, i just wished it played snes games on it.

Oh well... Cant have everything x_x

You mean like this one:

http://img180.echo.cx/img180/9780/snespsmall9rk.png (http://www.imageshack.us)


I would totally buy one of those if they made different shapes and stuff.

drummy
06-10-2005, 07:33 PM
They also might not be power efficient enough for a portable.

He made a PS2 portable around Christmastime last year, didn't he?

http://www.classicgaming.com/vcsp/PS2pMainPic2.jpg
That can't possibly be fun when you're playing a game that requires you to play with the D-Pad and the left analog stick simultaneously.

jajaja
06-11-2005, 04:47 AM
Its cool made, design is ok, but it looks really painful to play with. Looks pretty thick and sharp corners.
I wonder how the lighting on the screen are, if its like GBA or if you can play it in the dark. Judging by the pic it looks like you cant play in the dark, but who knows? :)
Altho, I see there are som "Bright/Light" adjustment buttons there..


The rear of the unit. The cartridge slides down the back and the battery door can be seen to the left. To the right is the Player 2 controller port

This was a cool feature hehe. But how does the 2player see the screen when the 1player is holding it. Must he peak over his shoulder or?

jonjandran
06-11-2005, 08:05 AM
Its cool made, design is ok, but it looks really painful to play with. Looks pretty thick and sharp corners.
I wonder how the lighting on the screen are, if its like GBA or if you can play it in the dark. Judging by the pic it looks like you cant play in the dark, but who knows? :)
Altho, I see there are som "Bright/Light" adjustment buttons there..


He uses the Official Sony PS1 LCD Screens.

Which in my opinion is one of the best for clarity , color and back-lighting that is made for systems.

jajaja
06-11-2005, 09:57 AM
Ok :)

Is it build on a Top Loader NES? Thinking of it looks like you just slide the game in like a gameboy game.