Nintendo: New-look old skool?

[THATinkjar]

IGN have posted this news piece claiming Nintendo may actually upgrade the look of the classic games it makes available for download when the Revolution launches.

I'm extremely skeptical as to what we can expect. I'm sure most people would prefer the games to remain entirely unchanged.

Here's the link (http://cube.ign.com/articles/628/628218p1.html) if you're interested :)

[The-Bavis]

Without reading the article, I'd say the idea is not a good one. Maybe on a few games that they can put the time into, but if they're not going to really update a game, why bother. Then you end up with crud like the Sega Classics collection that came out recently.

[demen999]

They should leave them alone, and just port them. If they want make the revamped ones available besides the original ones. Still might be good stuff, but just in case. 8-)

Quote: "Then you end up with crud like the Sega Classics collection that came out recently."

^ Heeeey cmon now, this is nintendo we are talking about.

[dcescott]

You know I read it, and if they improve the game, great. I still will use my nes, snes, but for the games I can't find or buy at outrageous prices, I will download them. Still they should keep in tact unless the hardware is forcing them to change things. When I jumped from OS9x to MAC OSX, my artwork and seperations changed a bit, and I had some adjustments, mostly for the good, some cons. If anything, I will just buy the messiah NEX and continue to play with old carts! If it ain't broke, don't fix it right?

[ddockery]

They'll probably just add annoying voices to everything...

[demen999]

Ninny doesn't really like voices in their games. Thats what some people bitch about this gen.

[THATinkjar]

Ninny doesn't really like voices in their games. Thats what some people bitch about this gen.

I sometimes fail to see how they can give most of their characters voices. It doesn't seem fitting, in my opinion.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

Would you hold it against them if they made A Link To The Past look more like Minish cap? Or what about Ocarina Of Time in hi-res?

Would I also be right in thinking that it will only be first party Nintendo games which will be avilable for downloading on the Revolution? Or will it be their entire back catalogue - PAL & NTSC???


I think it would be too much to ask for to have th eentire set of English, American, and Japanese games "On tap" just like that. I think it is more likely that they will re-release for download a set amount of first party titles every month or so.

I also assume it's too much to ask for it to be a free to use service as well??? No doubt they will want some kind of payment for using this service of theirs.

[Pantechnicon]

Nintendo shouldn't mess with a sure thing like this. The retro library is going to push sales of the console to the moon. But tweaking the graphics sounds like the work of executives who don't know any better: "Well...nobody's going to want to play those old games just like they are (O_O). How can we improve them?" Will somebody please remove the "money men" from the dev lab before they ruin a good thing?

[bazariah]

are people suddenly forgetting the classic super mario collection/ allstars for the snes??? each one of those games were exactly identical in gameplay terms but with enhanced graphics, i reckon this is the sort of thing which nintendo shall implement, i say it's a good thing, and if ninty decide to make a lot of the nes classics look like snes/gba titles i welcome the notion with open arms

[Moon Patrol]

Who knows if the new remakes will be any good, they may be in a style similar to the one seen on the game boy advance.

[dcescott]

One thing is for certain, Final Fantasy 2 on famicon can be translated and enjoyed by more, as well as others. Maybe the Lost levels as it was or Doki Doki Panic instead of SMB2. Gemini-Pheonix has a great point about all those PAL and Japanese games that the general public could not play unless they buy all those systems and special adapters and so on. I hope those money men will listen and dig into those titles.

[THATinkjar]

I wonder if they get the rights to Resident Evil 2... we'll get a remake of that ;)

[theoakwoody]

Even though few would agree with me I think Link's Adventure is long overdue for a graphical makeover. I know there's been hack's and such but I feel like that game was such a great mix of rpg and action/adventure. Maybe even a couple of extra dungeons just to spice things up ala Link's awakening DX. My personal feeling is that even though Zelda II is the evil red-headed stepchild of the bunch that it would receive a lot warmer reception now adays. Actually the game still looks amazing to me as far as the side view when you're in action but the overworld looks like complete ass. Still if the Big N gave Link's Adventure a 16 bit update, along the Sega Ages line, I'd be all over that.

[NESVIDIOT]

bazariah Posted: are people suddenly forgetting the classic super mario collection/ allstars for the snes

I agree wholeheartedly with this. I loved the new look and sound of Super Mario All-Stars. While I love the originals, I really like the idea of the "new" polished look and feel it gives the classics. I'd like to see the games revitalized like they did with All-Stars to keep the younger generations interested. Us old gamers will always love the classics. I just don't think they should be as "original" as the "Classic" series they re-released on GBA.

[Jive3D]

I think that it would be very nice if the implemented a new feel to some games - maybe upedated graphics or a new way of controlling the game with the updated functionality of the new Revolution controller.

But, I'm much more interested in playing games (old NES or more importantly Famicom games) that I have never played before. It would be nice if there was a plentiful amount of Japan-only games that were available to check out.

Further, anyone can DL a rom pack and an emulator, so there's really gotta be a reason to play the Revolution DL version of whatever Nes game rather than playing Kid Icarus on my Laptop, or better yet...

...Why would I want to play Kid Icarus on the revolution when I can play it on my GBA with my flash cart and the NES emulator for the GBA... There must be something additional here.

[Flack]

Seems like they're missing the whole point.

These games aren't being marketed to kids, they're being marketed to the parents to kids. I've already been thinking, what a great idea for families, kids can play the latest new games and when they go to bed dad can download Super Mario Brothers or Excitebike and play. I don't think kids are going to play the old games much, and if they do they will understand that they are old games and accept them as such. It's like putting a fresh coat of paint on a ghetto crack house. It is what it is, new paint/graphics or not. Besides, no amount of new graphics is going to make a 2D platformers into anything but a 2D platformer.

I think upgrading those games is a waste of time. The biggest complaint about the Sega Ages games is that they're appealing to nostalgia, but not delivering it. If you're advertising the fact that people can download "classic" games on your system, then give them the classic games.

[Kevin Listwan]

This sounds like a good idea, although you should be able to get the original and an updated version of the game. As soon as I read this I too tought of SMB All Stars. I was also hoping that Capcom would have done this with their Mega Man rerelease.

[ddockery]

Ninny doesn't really like voices in their games. Thats what some people bitch about this gen.

I think they did it to some others as well, but I can't play SMB Advance (SMB2) at all since they added the horrible voice effects. The make me cringe every time I hear them.

[DigitalSpace]

If Nintendo plans to release the original versions of these games along with the enhanced ones, I have no problem with this. However, if these enhanced versions are the only thing they're going to offer, then we can count this as another Nintendo screw-up.

[stuffedmonkey]

It could be interesting. I really liked the way they rehabbed the mario bros. series for Super Mario All-Stars. As long as it's classy looking - I wouldn't mind. Now if they added a constant "Itsa me MARIO!" to every game, that would just suck :)

[Sothy]

are people suddenly forgetting the classic super mario collection/ allstars for the snes??? each one of those games were exactly identical in gameplay terms but with enhanced graphics, i reckon this is the sort of thing which nintendo shall implement, i say it's a good thing, and if ninty decide to make a lot of the nes classics look like snes/gba titles i welcome the notion with open arms

Have to disagree.

On super mario 2 for nes I can roll that slot machine end of level mini game for all its worth. On the mario all star snes version they screwed it up.

[s1lence]

Once again more rumors on what the revolutiion and nintendo will do. I think I'll start caring more when they release what the controllers look like. Let's start another rumor, maybe the release date will be in February of 2006 the 20th aniversary of the NES in the US. :/

[GobopopRevisited]

How about both...? You know, offering both the Original version, and if they make one, the updated version. It's not like that idea has been dismissed (let alone presented... unless that is indeed what Iwata means)

BOTH sides could win... We wouldn't want that :roll:

[Crush Crawfish]

How about both...? You know, offering both the Original version, and if they make one, the updated version. It's not like that idea has been dismissed (let alone presented... unless that is indeed what Iwata means)

BOTH sides could win... We wouldn't want that :roll:

I agree. I personally wouldn't mind updated versions, considering that I can just play most of them on my NES/SNES/N64 or whatever. If nintendo offers old and updated versions, everyone wins.

[poopnes]

I really just think that this means that the emulator they're going to be using will some tricks to smooth things out, jack up the resolution, etc.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

Just take a few examples from the GBC / GBA: Super Mario Bros. Deluxe - GBC - Enhanced to a certain degree
Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - GBC - A nice colour version of one of the best GameBoy games ever released!
Final Fantasy: Dawn Of Souls - GBA - Both FFI & FFII Enhanced better than even the PSone versions! (Ok, not strictly a Nintendo game, but still...)
Super Mario World - GBA - Even better now with Luigi in it!
Metroid Zero Mission - GBA - Don't tell me that THIS isn't better than the NES original!
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green - GBA - Two great updates of the originals

Very rarely have Nintendo fluffed up upgrading classics.

[GobopopRevisited]

Super Mario World - GBA - Even better now with Luigi in it!

Lets not forget about to ultra convenient Status Screen Level Warping!

[SkiDragon]

Just take a few examples from the GBC / GBA: Super Mario Bros. Deluxe - GBC - Enhanced to a certain degree
Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - GBC - A nice colour version of one of the best GameBoy games ever released!
Final Fantasy: Dawn Of Souls - GBA - Both FFI & FFII Enhanced better than even the PSone versions! (Ok, not strictly a Nintendo game, but still...)
Super Mario World - GBA - Even better now with Luigi in it!
Metroid Zero Mission - GBA - Don't tell me that THIS isn't better than the NES original!
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green - GBA - Two great updates of the originals


The original Super Mario World HAD Luigi. All they did was give him an annoying jump.

Also, to all those who say the gameplay is unchanged, I am pretty sure that in the original SMB, when you are full-grown and hit a block of bricks, in one version it bounces you down and in the other you go right through it. So its not quite the same.