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Sammelhammel
07-02-2005, 07:32 AM
Hello everybody

Can anybody tell me which Genesis-RPG's do exist?
I mean the RPG's which were released on the US-market ONLY (not for the european)

For example Warsong or Crusader of Centy....

Melf
07-02-2005, 09:18 AM
A full list (http://www.sega-16.com/Feature-%20RPG%20Round%20Up.htm) of every domestic Genesis RPG, with a synopsis for each one! :D

Sammelhammel
07-02-2005, 09:20 AM
Thanks man, that's what I'm looking for ;)

Daria
07-02-2005, 10:56 AM
Some of those are questionable RPGs at best... such as Arcus Odyessy. But the list seems to err on the side of doubt. Which is cool. ABout the only thing I could add to it myself is Warsong. Plays like Shining Force without the town roaming.

hezeuschrist
07-02-2005, 02:32 PM
I never owned a Genesis, and I was truly a child of the SNES. I haven't played hardly any Genesis games at all, let alone RPGs, so could anyone reccommend to me all of the ones on that, as Daria mentioned, 'loose' list which ones I should bother owning?

I know Phantasy Star, I know Shining Force, I know Lunar and I'm pretty familiar with all of the other Working Designs releases. Aside from those offerings, what else is really worth owning having missed that half of the 16-bit generation all together? It really needs to have aged well too, I'm afraid when I read something like this, "The random battles are mind-numbing, essentially reducing the game to a frustrating exercise of "step and fight, step and fight" that can make the long treks through dungeons almost torture" that it pretty much makes me want to never play that game.

Sammelhammel
07-02-2005, 05:06 PM
The Link from Mell is fantastic, but I miss one game for the Mega-CD, it's called Dark Wizard (and also as mentioned before Warsong).....

I like the Genesis-RPG's much (especially Phantasy-Star), because they aren't like the kiddies SNES-RPG's....

Daria
07-02-2005, 05:38 PM
The Link from Mell is fantastic, but I miss one game for the Mega-CD, it's called Dark Wizard (and also as mentioned before Warsong)....

Either of which could really be considered more strategy then RPG, but again if you're going to list the games that fall under more action then RPG it would be nice to include these too. (:

Lord Contaminous
07-02-2005, 06:31 PM
Warsong is not US exclusive.

It's one of the games from Japan's "Langrisser" series.

Haoie
07-02-2005, 06:56 PM
Was Beyond Oasis in that list? It was somewhat Zelda esque.

Oh and another classic was the dungeon crawler, Sword of Vermillion. Personally it was too hard and way way too repeditive [town, to dungeon, to new town, etc etc] for me.

Melf
07-02-2005, 09:45 PM
Either of which could really be considered more strategy then RPG, but again if you're going to list the games that fall under more action then RPG it would be nice to include these too. (:

Dark Wizard and Warsong aren't on that list because they're much more strategy than RPG. Shining Force was included because of its character development and deep (for the time) RPG plot.

AlexKidd
07-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Wow was sonic really in crusader of centy? I own that game but have never played enough of it to see him. That's pretty random,just like putting mario in nes pinball or gamecube pac man vs. And some of those games are sega cd games,correct?

Melf
07-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Yep, he was indeed in CoC! Just a cameo, though.

All the "Genre Spotlight" articles feature the Genesis, Sega CD, and 32X.

hezeuschrist
07-03-2005, 12:47 AM
The Link from Mell is fantastic, but I miss one game for the Mega-CD, it's called Dark Wizard (and also as mentioned before Warsong).....

I like the Genesis-RPG's much (especially Phantasy-Star), because they aren't like the kiddies SNES-RPG's....

Really, if you're going to suggest something try to keep the retarded fanboy comments out of it.

Daria
07-03-2005, 11:38 AM
[quote=Daria]
Dark Wizard and Warsong aren't on that list because they're much more strategy than RPG. Shining Force was included because of its character development and deep (for the time) RPG plot.

O.o

I could understand the inability to upgrade equipment, and absence of town roaming. But Warsong included both character development and plot. Bit of a weak argument there.

Melf
07-03-2005, 01:35 PM
I never said it didn't have a plot. I said that its development wasn't as RPG-ish as Shining Force's was. SF's tie-ins to other games in the Shining series also adds to its RPG feel.

Daria
07-03-2005, 04:40 PM
I never said it didn't have a plot. I said that its development wasn't as RPG-ish as Shining Force's was. SF's tie-ins to other games in the Shining series also adds to its RPG feel.

Warsong certainly ties into the other Langrisser games. :P

Daria
07-04-2005, 02:00 PM
I know Phantasy Star, I know Shining Force, I know Lunar and I'm pretty familiar with all of the other Working Designs releases. Aside from those offerings, what else is really worth owning having missed that half of the 16-bit generation all together? It really needs to have aged well too, I'm afraid when I read something like this, "The random battles are mind-numbing, essentially reducing the game to a frustrating exercise of "step and fight, step and fight" that can make the long treks through dungeons almost torture" that it pretty much makes me want to never play that game.

Alright enough badgering Melf...

Okay leaving out the series you've already played and Sega CD titles (which I've only really have played WD's stuff for anyway) I'd recommend the following as "must tries":

Shadowrun - An extremely well fleshed out storyline, non linear gameplay, and a rich cyberpunk atmosphere. I honestly believe hands down this is the best RPG any 16 bit system has to offer. You play the game by taking own various types of missions, from the simple - running packages between shops, hunting ghouls, playing bodyguard, to the more complicated - infiltrating corperations and hacking databases. The game spans a nice vartiation of locales- from ghettos, to uptown, wildernesses and the virtual computer reality "Matrix". Your character can specialize in a combonation of three fields: combat, computers, and magic. You can also recruit two additional team mates to strengthen your own weaknesses. There's just a hell of a lot to see and do in this game.


Crusader of Centy - Genesis's answer to "Link to Past", if you like action RPGs you'll probably love this game. The game boasts colorful rotund graphics, and a surprisingly insightful storyline. You play the role of a boy whom is cursed with the abilty to speak to animals but not other people. As such you gain animal friends and abilities much like Link would gain various tools for the purpse of puzzle solving.

Warsong - Your basic strategy game, Shining Force like but as I mentioned earlier without the town roaming. You'll play the role of a young prince whose had to flee his kingdom in haste after the onslaught of invasion and resulting death of his father. Dead generals stay dead, which makes for a more challenging experince which will require some strategic thinking on your part. You can screw yourself into a corner. But the difficulty makes it rewarding, the story stays interesting, and you can identify with the characters.

LandStalker - Awesome action RPG from the team that created Shining Force and Shining in the Darkness. This game was originally designed to be incorperated into the Shining Series under the title "Shining Rogue" but uh- wasn't. Anyway... the storyline's more adventure oriented, your main characters are a team of treasure hunters, a rouge elf and an troublesome fairy, riches being their one desire. Gameplay's your fairly standard action RPG fare with a heavy emphasis on jumping. What else... scripts fairly humerous... it's just one of those games that every Genesis owner should try like Sonic or the Disney plateformers.

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Aquired Tastes:

Pirates Gold!
New Horizones <--- Fancy yourself a lantent swashbuckler? You'll love thse two games. Both are extermely difficult yet excellent. But again if you're not into adventures on the high seas they may not be your idea of fun.

Light Crusader
Beyond Oasis
The Immortal <--- Itching for some more action RPG goodness? Neither of these three really stack up to Crusader of Centy or Landstalker but if you enjoy the genre and have already beaten the other two then these could be a good investment for you. Beyond Oasis has a nice Arabian Nights theme going for it too.

Exile
Ys 3
Wonderboy <--- The sidescrolling action RPG. See the description above.


Dunegons and Dragons: WotES <--- Half dungeon crawler half traditional menu based battle system. It's a neat game that starts off fun but becomes frustratingly difficult as the story progresses. Also sports a unique and somewhat depressing non "save the world" plotline.

Traysia <--- Pretty genaric RPG, explore the dungeons, shop in the towns, rinse and repeat. I happen to like the battle system which reminds me very much of the NES Ultimas. Your characters move along a grid, and attack like any traditional RPG except you have to take into account the position of yourself and your enemies.

Sword of Vermillion <--- Strange hybrid. Towns are top down, dunegons and world map are first person, and battles are side scrolling action RPG. Pretty genaric otherwise.

hezeuschrist
07-04-2005, 02:30 PM
I own Shadowrun for SNES, how do the two compare?

Daria
07-04-2005, 02:48 PM
I own Shadowrun for SNES, how do the two compare?

They're completely different games that take place in the same universe. The SNES version to me felt more story driven while the Genesis game kinda left you free to do your own thing through out most of the game. Snes version was also very point and click-ish, find this item to advance here, Genesis version doesn't play that way at all. The whole world's pretty much open to you very early in the game.

So you have to ask yourself did you enjoy the setting? That's really the only thing the two games share in common.

hezeuschrist
07-04-2005, 02:54 PM
Heh, I couldn't tell you, I haven't played it yet. I tried to get a refund as I got totally screwed with a douchebag that sold me a horrible copy on ebay when he pictured a mint copy. Nowhere in the auction did it say that the picture wasn't of actual item, but I gave up on that :(

Daria
07-04-2005, 02:57 PM
Heh, I couldn't tell you, I haven't played it yet. I tried to get a refund as I got totally screwed with a douchebag that sold me a horrible copy on ebay when he pictured a mint copy. Nowhere in the auction did it say that the picture wasn't of actual item, but I gave up on that :(

Oh well in that case they're both cool games. I happen to like the genny version better but many would disagree with me. You should play the one you have, even if it is ugly. Maybe you'll get lucky and it's a first release copy, there's two alternate roms floating around out there. Few words are censored. I 'm sure theres a thread around somewhere that specifies.

The Plucky Little Ninja
07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
Sword of Vermillion takes a lot of hell since it was originally marketed as being so much more than it actually is. It certainly doesn't have the deepest most immersive story you're ever going to find in an RPG, but it should be experienced just for the unique system and great music.

And on the plus side. The battles are really easy to get away from if you're not in the mood for fighting.