The rarest Japanese MegaDrive (Genesis) games

[fishsandwich]

And the rarest game for Japanese MegaDive collectors is...

1) WWF Raw
1) Nagoya Home Banking
1) Maximum Carnage
2) Virtual Bart
2) Foreman for Real
2) Batman Forever
3) Justice League
4) Chuck Rock
5) Comix Zone
5) Judge Dread
5) WWF Raw 32X
6) True Lies
7) Panorama Cotton with Mug
8) The Ooze
9) Snow Bros
10) Alien Soldier
11) Vampire Killers (Castlevania)
12) Eliminate Down
13) Slap Fight
14) Pe Pen Ga Pengo

I've heard that all the Acclaim releases were rare, but I had no idea there were so many. Is this list accurate? I have no intention of collection rare versions of crappy American games... I just think it's interesting that what we consider common as dirt and barely worth the effort to open the boc will command high money in Japan. Seems Acclaim released there stuff on a VERY limited basis!

PS. Home Banking is #2? What's that? Excel for MegaDive? And what's with a Castlevania title being so rare?

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[anagrama]

Hmm, looks about right, though I'm not a real expert on the JP stuff. It's missing Tetris (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=31245), though ;)

The Home Banking cart is in the database, but I was gaven a slightly different name for it by a contributor: "Nagin no Home Banking System Nice-kun Mini Desu" (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=37347). (Can anyone confirm which is correct?) Don;t know too much about it, other than it's (unsurprisingly) some kind of banking software, and I think it may use the Mega Modem.

Actually, that list is missing Nikkan Sports Pro Yakyuu VAN (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=36342) aswell - pretty sure that would be up amongst the rarest. Some of the EA titles would probably be up there too.

[Mayhem]

The argument for no Tetris is that it was never a commercial title (ie. it never made it to the shop shelves to be sold). Which is why Adol considers his JPN Megadrive collection to be complete as well.

[anagrama]

Yeah I can understand that, but it was developed and manufactured by Sega and copies do exist, so it seems daft to have a list of the rarest JP MD games without it.
It's a comparable situation to whether or not you consider a US NES collection 'complete' without the NWC '90 cart.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Interesting how the list consist of mostly American ports...

[TEXASGAMEPLAYER]

wasn't phantasy star I made for the megadrive in limited quanities for winners of a contest? It could have been europe but I thought it was japan

[dj898]

there's a copy of Virtual Bart on Yahoo Japan for 40000 yen for a while now.. X_x

[anagrama]

wasn't phantasy star I made for the megadrive in limited quanities for winners of a contest? It could have been europe but I thought it was japan

It's often quoted at "1000 copies", but that's nonsense. There's always a couple on eBay at any given time and it's much more common than all the rest listed above.

[PapaStu]

My take on something like the NWC or Tetris is that its not part of the retail complete collection. The anality of us hardcore super collectors make self determinations about some of these weirder items. Could I consider my PS collection complete W/o the Lightspan stuff? Sure. Why? Because they were never commercially released for purchase. (Doesnt mean that you cant find them on ebay or other sources). Same thing goes with variants. Do we need to have all the label variants or screw variants for our NES collection to be complete? No. You've got all 700+ NES titles the damn thing is complete. We choose to go that extra mile for the unlicensed and super offshoot stuff.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I personally would include Tetris, it exists and my collection wouldn't be complete without it. Cheetahmen II was never commercially released but most would count it as a needed game for a complete NES collection.

[suppafly]

IMHO the non-licensed games shouldnt be necesarily part of a complete collection.....

[Mayhem]

IMHO the non-licensed games shouldnt be necesarily part of a complete collection.....

Then there wouldn't be that many games to get for the 2600 for example then ;)

[Adol]

I don't have Nagoya banking,but it is not a commerial title,it is like Nikkan Sports Pro Yakyuu,etc..

I do have Nikkan Sports Pro Yakyuu VAN...and i have Mega Anser,which is not in your list,and very rare to come by..

[Zebbe]

Is it Chuck Rock or Chuck Rock II in that list? Can't see Chuck Rock anywhere, only its sequel.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does Robocop Vs. Terminator count?

[Adol]

Is it Chuck Rock or Chuck Rock II in that list? Can't see Chuck Rock anywhere, only its sequel.

Chuck Rock 2 exist in japanese MD market.
Chuck Rock 1 doesn't.

[Adol]

Does Robocop Vs. Terminator count?

It is a nice game,quite uncommon,but not one of the most rare games on JPN MD!

[xfrumx]

How about 3do and CD-I collections, are they complete without the Oldergames/GDG releases?

[Blitzwing256]

How about 3do and CD-I collections, are they complete without the Oldergames/GDG releases?

pirate copies and cdrs don't count ;-)

[Vroomfunkel]

There is, of course, San San also.

[Zebbe]

Chuck Rock 2 exist in japanese MD market.
Chuck Rock 1 doesn't.

How much is Chuck Rock II worth? How many copies exist?

[gonzo90017]

Here's some info I found on a spanish site I transalated it.

The game lets you log on to your bank account to make bank transfers and manage your account on a slow and unsecure system. Items needed: cartridge, printer, and a numeric pad. LIke you can imagine, a monumental failure. With a distibution that my sources tell me (that doesn't mean they're accurrate, since I haven't seen any official document and I don't think one exists) no more than 50 units exists. There's other games that use the modem like San San and Sports VAN.

Picture games: Mega Anser, Nagoya Home Bankin (same program as Mega Anser but with a different presentation screen and artwork since they're 2 different banks), and Smisey Home Tanmatsu (also known as Sumitomo). These games are not as well known as Tetris are seen very rarely.

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[fahlim003]

I don't agree on Alien Soldier being 'rarer' than Slap Fight. Alien Soldier is easily found, on the net and in shops overseas. Slap Fight comes up once every 6 months as I've seen. Just my opinion.

[The 1 2 P]

Contra for the Mega Drive also seems pretty hard to find as well.

[Vroomfunkel]

I'd say I've seen Slap Fight and Eliminate Down a hell of a lot more often than Pa Pe Pengo as well, although that may just be because shooters are more sought after on the whole, so they get hunted out more often.

The closest I've come to anything on that list is that I managed to pick up a cart only Japanese Virtual Bart once. Oh, and I had a Panorama Cotton with mug as well. That was pretty cool :)

[PingvinBlueJeans]

Then there wouldn't be that many games to get for the 2600 for example then ;)
Indeed...considering the fact that pre-NES, basically all 3rd party games were technically unlicensed.

[Spartacus]

One that I've noticed going for chump change here and in PAL land, but being somewhat pricey in Japan is Hot-B's Steel Empire. Gotta say I love the Japanese version's cover-art though.

[Adol]

How much is Chuck Rock II worth? How many copies exist?

Worth like $50 not much...

[Adol]

Here's some info I found on a spanish site I transalated it.

The game lets you log on to your bank account to make bank transfers and manage your account on a slow and unsecure system. Items needed: cartridge, printer, and a numeric pad. LIke you can imagine, a monumental failure. With a distibution that my sources tell me (that doesn't mean they're accurrate, since I haven't seen any official document and I don't think one exists) no more than 50 units exists. There's other games that use the modem like San San and Sports VAN.

Picture games: Mega Anser, Nagoya Home Bankin (same program as Mega Anser but with a different presentation screen and artwork since they're 2 different banks), and Smisey Home Tanmatsu (also known as Sumitomo). These games are not as well known as Tetris are seen very rarely.


The picture you show is my Mega Anser i sold to Mundocombo, as well as my Nagoy Home Banking...
So far,this is the only Mega Anser copy i ever saw WITH a manual..even the guy selling one for $1200 on Ebay doesn't have the manual.

Nagoy or Smisey Home are around 100000Y...i consider MEga Anser to be slightly more with THIS manual.
I'm selling too on Ebay for $100 approx. the Ten Key Pad, necessary to use with such softwares.Quite uncommon.
And so far,i never ever saw in 10 years the printer for sale.

San San costs less,like 30-40000 Yens at most
And i'm selling a Nikkan Sports Pro Yakyo Van right now on Ebay, it's around 15000 Yens.

[Zebbe]

How much does Pengo (complete) go for these days?

[Vroomfunkel]

Hard to tell, it very rarely turns up. Saw one a few years ago on the 'bay go for about £70-£80 iirc. I think I've even seen it go over £100 before, but that was probably before the retro import market opened up and the Japanese sellers started branching out of Yahoo.co.jp ...

The people to ask on this would be Adol / dojars / wheelaa. I'd say you shouldn't be suprised at $150 asking price at least.

edit: for sale here (http://www.genkivideogames.com/displaysinglegame.asp?display=single&catno=g4133&title=Pengo) at £99 (c. $200)

[vintagegamecrazy]

I know Snow Bros. is rare but is there actually less than 2,000 or so?

[Aun]

1. Gunstar Heroes
2. Sonic Labyrinth
These games are also harder to find through internet as far i had searched.

[Adol]

Are you talking about GG Games?
Because Gunstar Heroes JPN MD game isn't quite rare,i have it for sale regularly.
And Sonic Labyrinth just doesn't exist on MD.

[The 1 2 P]

Is TMNT: Return of the Shedder rare? It's the Japanese Mega Drive version of TMNT: The Hyperstone Heist.

[Adol]

Not really,uncommon at most

It's worth a good $35-40 anyway

[Zebbe]

Thanks for the replies, Adol and Vroomfunkel.

[The 1 2 P]

Not really,uncommon at most

It's worth a good $35-40 anyway

You would know...you're the one that sold it to me8-)

[Moon Jump]

Aren't Alien Soldier and the Yu-Yu-Hakusho games rare? Or is that just more price gouging because their Treasure games? I heard both of them can fetch a high price.

[Vroomfunkel]

They both used to fetch a lot higher than they do now. You could easily get Yu Yu for $100 these days, and Alien Soldier for not too much more (maybe $150, or possibly less)

[Adol]

You would know...you're the one that sold it to me8-)

Yeah,and how much did i sell it?that kind of price,no?

[Adol]

I recently sold Alien Soldier for 90€ (130$) and Yuu Yuu Hakusho Makyotohissen on Ebay for 55€ (80$) FYI.

[Vroomfunkel]

I recently sold Alien Soldier for 90€ (130$) and Yuu Yuu Hakusho Makyotohissen on Ebay for 55€ (80$) FYI.

Wow. Didn't realise they were that low now. Both bargain prices, I would say. Either that or they were just ridiculously over-inflated for ages ..

[fahlim003]

Wow. Didn't realise they were that low now. Both bargain prices, I would say. Either that or they were just ridiculously over-inflated for ages ..

Those prices are hardly cheap or new, to me at least. I got Yu Yu Hakusho for $65 shipped from Japan about a year ago while I've seen Alien Soldier offered to me around $90 shipped. Both those prices above are average. With Yu Yu, I could've gotten it even cheaper but was in a hurry and didn't see the other copies.

[The 1 2 P]

Yeah,and how much did i sell it?that kind of price,no?

Alittle more than $20 is what you sold it for.

[Adol]

Damn,my prices are so cheap,i'm a wonderful seller :)

[The 1 2 P]

Damn,my prices are so cheap,i'm a wonderful seller :)

Yes you are:hail:

[StealthLurker]

And the rarest game for Japanese MegaDive collectors is...

1) WWF Raw
1) Nagoya Home Banking
1) Maximum Carnage
2) Virtual Bart
2) Foreman for Real
2) Batman Forever
3) Justice League
4) Chuck Rock
5) Comix Zone
5) Judge Dread
5) WWF Raw 32X
6) True Lies
7) Panorama Cotton with Mug
8) The Ooze
9) Snow Bros
10) Alien Soldier
11) Vampire Killers (Castlevania)
12) Eliminate Down
13) Slap Fight
14) Pe Pen Ga Pengo

I've heard that all the Acclaim releases were rare, but I had no idea there were so many. Is this list accurate? I have no intention of collection rare versions of crappy American games... I just think it's interesting that what we consider common as dirt and barely worth the effort to open the boc will command high money in Japan. Seems Acclaim released there stuff on a VERY limited basis!

PS. Home Banking is #2? What's that? Excel for MegaDive? And what's with a Castlevania title being so rare?

@_@


Half or more of those are not rare. They just cost more than the average jpn megadrive game. If you're willing to spend the cash, you can go out and get one online almost any time.

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[Adol]

You won't get WWF Raw,Nagoya Home Banking or Foreman For Real anyday.

[StealthLurker]

Half or more of those are not rare. They just cost more than the average jpn megadrive game. If you're willing to spend the cash, you can go out and get one online almost any time.

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[StealthLurker]

Half or more of those are not rare. They just cost more than the average jpn megadrive game. If you're willing to spend the cash, you can go out and get one online almost any time.

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[GaijinPunch]

Wow. Didn't realise they were that low now. Both bargain prices, I would say. Either that or they were just ridiculously over-inflated for ages ..

I've sold two Alien Soldiers (both just under $100) in the last few months.

[StealthLurker]

I've sold two Alien Soldiers (both just under $100) in the last few months.

Overall Alien Soldier has somewhat tanked in prices. I picked up a copy a while back for 50% off market value at the time. This was a little after the ps2 version came out. Some say these ps2 releases don't affect the value of the originals, but from what I've seen it does affect a handful of auctions on YJ.

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[eastx]

I agree, re-releases on a different format can potentially affect prices of original versions. If somebody just really wants to play the game rather than fill out a collection, the PS2 Alien Soldier/Gunstar Heroes game is a way better buy. Plus it's on the Wii Virtual Console too, right?

[The 1 2 P]

Does anyone know how rare Ninja Gaiden for Mega Drive is? I've yet to ever see it for sale. If someone has one for sale please let me know.

[Ed Oscuro]

Unreleased.

[eastx]

Does anyone know how rare Ninja Gaiden for Mega Drive is? I've yet to ever see it for sale. If someone has one for sale please let me know.

I downloaded the unfinished ROM. It's like a cross between the arcade and NES versions (complicated levels but gameplay and graphics based on the arcade game). It's super-unfinished, so you get stuck after not very long.

[The 1 2 P]

I downloaded the unfinished ROM. It's like a cross between the arcade and NES versions (complicated levels but gameplay and graphics based on the arcade game). It's super-unfinished, so you get stuck after not very long.

I see. I learned about it's existence in the strategy guide for the first Xbox Ninja Gaiden. The guide said it was the rarest Ninja Gaiden to find but it didn't say anything about it being unreleased or imcomplete:?

[The 1 2 P]

Does anyone on this forum have a copy of this game besides the downloadable rom?

[Mark III]

Does anyone know if the Acclaim games are actually valuable or just rare?

[asbury6647]

does anyone know?

[The 1 2 P]

does anyone know?

I don't know anything. I just work here:cool:

[Adol]

If you're referring to the topic "japanese games",then Daze before Christmas just doesn't exist in such form.