I'm thinking about buying a NEO GEO AES, need some advice

[PDorr3]

Well I have $300, enough to burn on a neo geo aes. Now I really do not know much at all when it comes to this system as I always found it out of my reach.

First, is the US version best? what can I expect to spend on ebay for a system, hookups, atleast 1 controller, and atleast one common game?

Also I noticed some systems come with an S video mod. How much extra can this cost me? and is it worth the extra cash?

Any advice you can offer up to me in terms of purchasing a Neogeo aes would be great, I want to make a wise decision before spending $300.

[b0bby]

dude i thought about it and i was kinda excited at first but then i saw how fuckin expensive the games were (minimum 75 big ones)...screw that.....get yourself an emulator

neo geo is not worth it dude

[Anthony1]

$300 is alot of money. If I had a spare $300 to burn, I would be tempted to get a PSP, with all the emulation that is going on with that thing right now. Or I would think about saving it for later this year. Remember, in November you'll have images of Ghost Recon 3 and Project Gotham 3 for the XBOX 360 dancing in your head.


You can also consider the Neo Geo CD. With the CD format comes drastically cheaper games. And if you have no morals like me, then you can even go with backups.


Of course, I know how it is. You want the real deal experience. You want to experience it like people did back in the early 90's. That's understandable.


If you do end up getting a Neo-Geo, I wouldn't pay an arm and a leg for the S-Video mod. You might as well just get a RGB cable and a RGB monitor. That way, you will experience the Neo-Geo as it really was meant to be experienced. On the same kind of monitor that it was hooked to in the arcades. If you play a Neo-Geo on a RGB monitor, then your experience that you are going to get, at least visually, will be identical to the arcade experience.

Hard to beat that.


You can always go with the "1 game theory".


1 game theory : even though the system is uber expensive, you just buy the system and one game and just live with 1 game for awhile. It forces you to really play the hell out of that one game and to get totally into that one game, and maybe you even finish that one game to completion.


One thing about Neo-Geo you must remember my young son........


Avoid using continues.

[b0bby]

pretty good theory...i know wat im askin mom for x-mas :-P

[PDorr3]

well I got a psp and 4 games, and xbox 360 comes out right before my birthday...so Im set on that!
Also does the geo geo cd have the same games as aes? just cheaper?

[pixelsnpolygons]

Check out NeoGeo forums for some good deals. I got my NeoGeoCD and arcade stick for around $100, its the JPN version. As far as I know the collection of games between AES and CD is the same, there might be some AES only games, can't remember - the bulk of things seems to be identical. Some games have intense load times. :(

[jajaja]

dude i thought about it and i was kinda excited at first but then i saw how fuckin expensive the games were (minimum 75 big ones)...screw that.....get yourself an emulator

neo geo is not worth it dude

Emulator is 10 times more boring than the real thing.
For the best AES version I would say the japanese ones. What I've heard it have red blood instead of green and more bounce on the boobs hehe.

I have an AES myself. Not quite sure what model it is acctualy. The box and AC adapter are japanese, but the guy who sold it said the AES was european. Never really checked this. I think $300 for just the system is alittle much. But its a great system and I do recommend getting one :)

[DeputyMoniker]

I posted this in another thread a while back.


Or forget all that and head over to Neo-Geo.com. Hit up the forum users and get yourself a consolized MVS arcade board so you can collect the arcade versions instead. They’re WAYYYYYYYY cheaper.

What’s a "consolized MVS arcade board", DeputyMoniker?
Why it’s a motherboard taken out of a NEO GEO arcade cabinet! Joysticks have been added and it’s been modified so it has the ability to hook up to your TV! (Among other things) Just be sure to get one with the latest UNI-BIOS upgrade! That "Pause" function is priceless.
It's also been mounted in a handy protective case so it’s like having a special little animal that’s been bread just for you! It's an easy process and you'll be the envy of all your friends! (That’s assuming you have friends...I sure don’t) Sure the price of a consolized MVS board can be 50% or so higher than the price of a real NEO GEO home AES system but an arcade MVS version of a game could cost you about 20% of what its home AES counterpart would cost you.

There are more options too, theres a supergun and whatever else but if you're really interested in getting into NEO GEO collecting then in my humble and insignificant opinion...I'd say head over to that other place I mentioned and read up on it. (consolized is the easiest, cheapest [compaired to AES] and coolest way to go though)


I bought a consolized MSV with 4 games & 2 controllers from a member here for $235.

[jajaja]

I posted this in another thread a while back.


Or forget all that and head over to Neo-Geo.com. Hit up the forum users and get yourself a consolized MVS arcade board so you can collect the arcade versions instead. They’re WAYYYYYYYY cheaper.

What’s a "consolized MVS arcade board", DeputyMoniker?
Why it’s a motherboard taken out of a NEO GEO arcade cabinet! Joysticks have been added and it’s been modified so it has the ability to hook up to your TV! (Among other things) Just be sure to get one with the latest UNI-BIOS upgrade! That "Pause" function is priceless.
It's also been mounted in a handy protective case so it’s like having a special little animal that’s been bread just for you! It's an easy process and you'll be the envy of all your friends! (That’s assuming you have friends...I sure don’t) Sure the price of a consolized MVS board can be 50% or so higher than the price of a real NEO GEO home AES system but an arcade MVS version of a game could cost you about 20% of what its home AES counterpart would cost you.

There are more options too, theres a supergun and whatever else but if you're really interested in getting into NEO GEO collecting then in my humble and insignificant opinion...I'd say head over to that other place I mentioned and read up on it. (consolized is the easiest, cheapest [compaired to AES] and coolest way to go though)


I bought a consolized MSV with 4 games & 2 controllers from a member here for $235.

How many slots?

[Dangerboy]

Most likely a 1 or 2 Slot, as they are the most common of the consolized MVS.

Me? I have the AES US with the Phantom convertor blue version. There's 3 games out of all 150ish or so that will not work on it, and it allows the MVS arcade carts to be turned into their home counterparts, allowing for home cart options on the newer games.

The consolized / converter route is the ONLY way to go with the neo geo. Aside from the rare oddball games, you can get most MVS carts for $10 to $25 shipped, where AES games are in the $75 to $1,000 range.

[CasualCoreGamer]

Or if you have the room, you can just get a 1 or 2 slot MVS cab, which is what I'm doing real soon for less than a new PS2 or X Box. I was thinking about a NeoGeo CD, but those load times seem horrifying. Do any of the emulators have Neo Geo CD capabilities? If so, that would be the low $$ solution (I'm doing that with Magic Engine for playing PCE/CD (authentic) titles).

[chrisbid]

i have an AES i scored for a mere 80 dollars, however i have no games, and the only games i found in the wild were 50 dollar sports games... so i passed.

i emulate the system on my xbox and it does a pretty good jeeeeorrb. sure, the xbox controllers are not Neo Geo sticks, but its much better than PC control

if you do go with the Neo CD, the control pads are awesome. they have the same clicky thumb pad used on the Neo Geo Pocket, only a little bigger.

[UndeadKing]

Just some things to keep in mind.

-Neo Geo CD load times can be VERY painful.

-If you want red blood/etc, you must get a Japanese SYSTEM or a modded US system. Every region's games are the same(save for packaging), your system's region determines the language and censorship. In other words, a US Metal Slug would have red blood on a Japanese system and a Japanese Metal Slug would have white blood on a Us system.

-By that same token, generally the text will be in English on a Us system and Japanese on a Jp system.

[DeputyMoniker]

I posted this in another thread a while back.


Or forget all that and head over to Neo-Geo.com. Hit up the forum users and get yourself a consolized MVS arcade board so you can collect the arcade versions instead. They’re WAYYYYYYYY cheaper.

What’s a "consolized MVS arcade board", DeputyMoniker?
Why it’s a motherboard taken out of a NEO GEO arcade cabinet! Joysticks have been added and it’s been modified so it has the ability to hook up to your TV! (Among other things) Just be sure to get one with the latest UNI-BIOS upgrade! That "Pause" function is priceless.
It's also been mounted in a handy protective case so it’s like having a special little animal that’s been bread just for you! It's an easy process and you'll be the envy of all your friends! (That’s assuming you have friends...I sure don’t) Sure the price of a consolized MVS board can be 50% or so higher than the price of a real NEO GEO home AES system but an arcade MVS version of a game could cost you about 20% of what its home AES counterpart would cost you.

There are more options too, theres a supergun and whatever else but if you're really interested in getting into NEO GEO collecting then in my humble and insignificant opinion...I'd say head over to that other place I mentioned and read up on it. (consolized is the easiest, cheapest [compaired to AES] and coolest way to go though)


I bought a consolized MSV with 4 games & 2 controllers from a member here for $235.

How many slots?

I have a 1 slot. It's all you need...as long as the slot doesnt start to fail. If/when it does I'll replace it with a cab. It's nice to already have a collection of MVS carts. 8-)

NEO CD: Load times are too long...I mean really long...I used to start a game, go to the gas station to get something to drink and it would be almost done loading when I'd get back. There is a double speed NEO CD too but youll pay more for it and it still isnt worth it.

AES: Games cost too much.

NEO Arcade Cabinet: Considering size, weight, shipping, parents...it may not be practical for you.

MVS board with Supergun: Best to buy them used because they can be pretty pricey. It's also kinda messy and I dont like mess...it makes me think I'm gonna break something. Do your homework and you can find a good deal.

Consolized MVS: Game prices are WAYYYY lower. If you ever decide to buy a NEO GEO Arcade Cabinet, you'll already have a collection of games for it. It uses the original AES controllers so you'll have that awesome AES feel in your hands. Everything is all in one box nice and clean. They can be pricey though...do your hunting and you should find a good deal on a used one.

As you can see I lean toward the consolized MVS. I formed my opinion prior to spending a dime on NEO GEO stuff so at one time it was an unbiased opinion.

[Anthony1]

I remember one guy saying that the load times on a Neo-Geo CD are pretty damn horrible, but it gives him the perfect amount of time to load a bowl on his bong!

he he

[PDorr3]

thanks for all the info guys, I have a few questions.

I have put up with long load times before, exactly how often do the load screen come up and how long do they take?

This consilized mvs...Im still not sure what it is, you say it runs double the price of an AES, I'm not sure I can buy this quite yet.

If AES games cost a minimum of $75, I could probably just stick with 1-2 and be happy :)

[DeputyMoniker]

thanks for all the info guys, I have a few questions.

I have put up with long load times before, exactly how often do the load screen come up and how long do they take?

This consilized mvs...Im still not sure what it is, you say it runs double the price of an AES, I'm not sure I can buy this quite yet.

If AES games cost a minimum of $75, I could probably just stick with 1-2 and be happy :)

Consolized MVS...did you read my post above? I thought I explained it pretty clearly but nobody ever knows WTF I'm trying to say so am I suprised this time? You know the NEO GEO arcades? Well take the motherboard out of one. Then add a bunch of wires and other stuff to it, mount it isnide a protective case and you have a console-ized MVS. Now you get to buy arcade cartridges for real cheap instead of buying home carts for real expencive. Go to Neo-Geo.com and do a search in the forums for "consolized"...it should pull up something informative. Seriously...IMO you should just forget about the AES. Youll be much more happy with a consolized MVS. Thats just my opinion.

[Yamazaki]

It's all about priorities! I love my NG! And I love my games! Thats why i am willing to spend the money for it!!

[jajaja]

The Neo Geo games got 2 standards, called MVS and AES.
MVS stands for Multi-Video System/Output (used in arcades).
AES stands for Advanced Entertainment System (used for home Neo Geo consoles).

So what DeputyMoniker said, you take the Neo Geo arcade board from an aracade machine and put it inside a box or simular and modify it with buttons and wires. Now it will work like an arcade cabinet without the cabinet hehe.

Good thing with MVS is that the games are much cheaper compared to the AES games. If you just want to play I also recommend trying to find a consolized MVS. If you want to collect (and have alot of money for the games) I recommend getting the AES.

I have both an AES system and a MVS 1-slot board with MAK SuperGun and I like both.

[16-bit]

AES games do not cost a minimum of $75. You can get cheap Japanese games that will play on any region system for much less--especially if you are flexible on the condition. You can get Samurai Spirits II for $35 shipped, and maybe League Bowling for around twice that--both of which are quality titles. Also check out the price guide on Neo-Geo.com. Not perfect by any means, but they make a serious attempt to be as accurate as possible.

[Muscelli]

one of the neo geo cd games took 2 minutes to load!!

[PDorr3]

OK I browed around neo-geo.com, and the forums there, and checked out some pictures of an MVS, and I really dont feel like buying an mvs and having to figure out how to hook it up correctly, and I am not paying alot to have it modded for me, so thats out of the question.

The Neo geo cd seems best fit for me. The system is affordable, as well as the games. I can deal with load times, as long as its not 2 min loads before everyfight. A 2-5 minute load once before the game starts is fine.

The AES really seems like a system where I would only own a couple of games, as there is no way I am paying over $50 for any of the games (so what does that get me, 2 games?)

So righ now I am leaning towards the NGCD.

[jajaja]

NGCD might not give you the same feeling as AES/MVS. Evenntho its the same games. Its probly just a psychic thing tho :)
Its not hard to use a consolized MVS btw. Just plug it in to the Scart/S-video/RGB (depends on how well its been done) and play. Its works just like a normal console.

[Damion]

If someone hasn't mentioned it already get a NEO GEO AES US with a Unibios chip and S-video mod.

I have a very early Neogeo and has not been modded. So I'm stuck the RF and let me tell you From what I remeber in the arcade this looks rather weird.

Also you can get alot of the Launch games in the area of about 18-50 bucks complete.

Oh and one more thing. consider buying a Phantom 1 MVS converter to play MVS games on it so when you get to the more pricy games (Such as Metal Slug series) you can afford a couple of them for the same price as one AES.

[jajaja]

Ye.. the phantom-1. Too bad its very expencive. Its cheaper (or close to) to buy a consolized MVS or a MVS 1slot JAMMA board + SuperGUN. Takes more space and wires tho hehe :)

[Trebuken]

I have a top-loader Neo Geo CD, I think it's great. Load times? sure...but that's what magazines are for, and chips, pretzels, and anthony1 pointed out another use. The load times are about the worse I've seen, but I used to have a Commodore 64 and I can tell you they are not bad by comparison. On top of that the gameplay is identical to the AES, and just plain cool. (RGB will give you a complete arcade feel, but composite is darn good). It's alos my understanding that there is a front-loading Neo Geo CD. This version, correct be if I am wrong, has a faster spinning cd-rom drive (2x vs. 1x). It costs more but is still less than an AES. I would love to have a consolized MVS board myslef, but I'm trying to compare it to a supergun with Jamma compatibility, this would be the sweetest route to take, not comfortable going there yet.

Neo Geo CD plays back-up copies perfectly.....(you know, to protect your originals). It may actually be easier to find MVS games than some of their CD versions...another thing to look into....

Trebuken

[omnedon]

2 good solutions

1) read my page http://www.oldschoolgamer.ca/information.aspx?SID=12

I'm partial to a modded AES, with Phantom-1 converter. This setup costs roughly the same as a consolized MVS or Supergun, but is way cleaner, looks way better. You get to have a game console (imagine that!), and you can also buy the games ANY FORMAT YOU WANT. Cheaper MVS, sure. Cooler AES for some titles? Sure. Whatever You Want. Some games can have some issues on a Phantom-1, but it's a few out of 150+. Any Neo modded by OSG gets a free Phantom-1 compatibility test.

2) Get a consolized MVS. You can buy cheaper MVS games and play them on the unsightly contraption you just connected to your TV.


If you have an AES with no Phantom-1, and do not have an unlimited budget, you will be a frustrated gamer. there are good titles cheap, but no Metal Slug. No Last Blade. No Pulstar.

You need to be able to play MVS titles, and then you are free as a bird.

I've repaired some NGCD's. Normally I tell people that emulation is not as good as the real thing. In the case of the NGCD being the real thing, get a modded Xbox and go that way. the load times are indeed distractingly bad (IMO) and the systems reliability is in question (but you can pay me to fix it if you like!) ;)

[Anthony1]

Back in the days, I had a Neo-Geo Gold System.


Anybody know exactly what the Gold System meant? It was just a regular Neo-Geo as far as I was concerned, but it was called the "Gold System".


Anyways, I had this Neo-Geo, and I also had a few games. I got Cyber Lip. That was one of my first games on the Geo. I liked it quite a bit. I got Super Baseball 2020, I also liked that one alot. I had Football Frenzy, that one wasn't that great, and I had BaseBall Stars II, one of my all time faves.


I'm curious, what would that cost right now?


Neo-Geo Gold system (whatever that is) = $ ? ?
Cyper Lip cart = $ ? ?
Super Baseball 2020 cart = $ ? ? ?
Football Frenzy cart = $ ? ? ? ?
Baseball Stars II cart = $ ? ? ? ? ?


Are all these games available on CD?

[jajaja]

I payed about $35 for my copy of Cyber Lip. It was suppose to be complete, but when I recived it the manual wasnt included :(
I really dont like the game that much because you cant shoot diagonal. Imagine playing contra and you can only shoot straight forward, up and down.

[Ed Oscuro]

Back in the days, I had a Neo-Geo Gold System.


Anybody know exactly what the Gold System meant? It was just a regular Neo-Geo as far as I was concerned, but it was called the "Gold System".
I have one. I guess it came with something extra; mine has two controllers and two games (maybe it just came with one). Dunno.

[junglehunter]

I've got an AES at the moment, and I'm going the MVS route shortly.

I've owned an NGCD years ago, and it's not worth it. Earlier games' load times weren't terrible, but far from good. The later games just got unbearable for me. Add to that some games weren't released on the NGCD. I think King of Fighters on NGCD ranges from '94-'99, and on MVS/AES the series ranges from '94-'02 (I think, correct me if I'm wrong). There are several instances of those examples across the systems.

I'd go with the MVS if I were you, just for the "feel" and more decently priced games. Buying Metal Slug for the MVS as opposed to the AES is a couple thousand dollars difference.

At least the NGCD has that juggling monkey. X_x

[gepeto]

I believe the gold systems had 2 contollers packed in not sure about the memory card being packed in but pretty. I also have been looking for one. The ebay prices seem to have dropped in recent years for the neo geo. I was thinking about maybe trading my psp+ for one until the whole emulation craze hit now I can't seem to stop playing it. Forget the game axe.

[PDorr3]

you know, I asked this on the neo goe boards, and so many people have different opinions on which to get. Personaly I do not mant an MVS, I just do not like the fact that it is just arcade wires thrown into a consolized box, and its damn expensive at that.

The neo cd to me offers up an affordable price, more games affordable to buy, but I am not sure hpw much the load times will bug me. I would stay away from games such as last blade 2 and kof 99 as I already know from reading I wouldent be able to bear the loading. But a 30 second initial boot up with 10-15 seconds between rounds shouldent bother me too much, I will just bring a drink to keep me busy for those few seconds.

The AES is a sexy console, and damn worth bragging rights, but I would only be able to buy a few games (sorry, I refuse to spend more than $50 on a game) so that limits my selection down to about 6 games, all games on the cd that are early games with load times that are bearable.

This is such a hard decision....

Lemme just ask, is there ANYONE here that has had a neo cd and was able to bear the loading?

[FABombjoy]

Load times for early release Neo CD titles are... tolerable

As the games evolved and got bigger, the loads become more frustrating.

Example: I have KOF98 on CD. A typical session is something like this:

Insert CD
Wait 30-40 seconds for title screen
Choose options & characters (there may be a load between the main screen and char screen... can't remember offhand)
Load for 30 seconds....
Begin first round. Pummel computer. Take a few hits
Load for 30 seconds...
Begin 2nd round. Pummel computer. Take a few more hits.
Load for 30 seconds...
Begin 3rd round. 2 seconds in, computer lands good move & knocks out your first character.
Load for 30 seconds...
Begin 4th round. Pummel computer.
Load
Victory screen
Load
See next characters
Load
Begin next round
Repeat

I spend the load times with my arms spread out across the back of the couch, head back, tongue hanging out of mouth, murmering a low key "aaaaaaaaa" out of frustration.

Side note: AES Gold system came with 2 controllers and a game. No mem card.

[sickdrummer420]

i just sold an AES home system with 2 controllers. I also threw in 8 games. I made 400 bucks off it on ebay. Feel like I kinda got ripped but it wasnt in mint shape though either. Just thought Id give ya an idea on prices.

[blissfulnoise]

2) Get a consolized MVS. You can buy cheaper MVS games and play them on the unsightly contraption you just connected to your TV.

They don't have to be unslightly. Not by a longshot.

Necromutant on this very forum has a consolized MVS that's installed in a dead Neo Geo CD Top Loader.

He brought it with him to our last Classic Gaming Night and I can tell you that it looks damn awesome. While not everyone is going to have a broken NeoCD lying around to transplant into, it shows with a little imagination, you could have one awesome looking CMVS.

(*shamless plug*, Colorado gamers, check for more info on Classic Gaming Night in Events and Gatherings*).

[Trebuken]

Well I had to go try KOF '98 on my Neo CD just to see if it was that bad...it was, for the most part. I think the load times between rounds were longer than some of the rounds. I've really only played Metal Slug, Viewpoint, and Magician Lord on my system and have not been bothered by the load times. You will need some real patience for these games if your used to playing them at the arcade (but think of the money your saving).

Another option is to get the Neo Geo CD emulator and a PSP, I undestand that this emulation is coming along quite nicely...haven't tried it yet for lack of a good explanation on how to get my CD's to my memory stick correctly...

Trebuken

[omnedon]

Unsightly is in he eye of he beholder. D-Lite makes some really nice clean looking consolized MVS's too.

I'm a purist though. If it's not original hardware (uogrades are OK) it's a contraption. A cab mobo rigged to your TV is a contraption. It may be a really cool looking contraption, but still a contraption.

Some people like nice contraptions. Not my thing. :)

[DeputyMoniker]

OK I browed around neo-geo.com, and the forums there, and checked out some pictures of an MVS, and I really dont feel like buying an mvs and having to figure out how to hook it up correctly, and I am not paying alot to have it modded for me, so thats out of the question.

The Neo geo cd seems best fit for me. The system is affordable, as well as the games. I can deal with load times, as long as its not 2 min loads before everyfight. A 2-5 minute load once before the game starts is fine.

The AES really seems like a system where I would only own a couple of games, as there is no way I am paying over $50 for any of the games (so what does that get me, 2 games?)

So righ now I am leaning towards the NGCD.

Yeah...2-3, sometimes 5 minutes between each fight. It's freaking unbearable.

I suggest you look further into the consolized MVS before you spend any money on anything. Thats the best advice I can give you. Dont just say "whats your opinion". Ask questions...lots of them. "What is that thing? Whats the difference? How do you..."
THEN spend your money on something.

[DeputyMoniker]

AES games do not cost a minimum of $75. You can get cheap Japanese games that will play on any region system for much less--especially if you are flexible on the condition. You can get Samurai Spirits II for $35 shipped, and maybe League Bowling for around twice that--both of which are quality titles. Also check out the price guide on Neo-Geo.com. Not perfect by any means, but they make a serious attempt to be as accurate as possible.

What kind of advice is that?
"If you're willing to work harder to find your games, you'll only pay 2-200 times the price of an MVS cart."
C-mon. You know MVS is cheaper than AES...you know that. If were discussing price...MVS and CD are the only options. I know you know that. LOL

[Captain Wrong]

@Pdorr3. Man, I really don't know what else you're looking to hear here. If you don't want a MVS for whatever reason and you are as worried about load times as you seem to be, then your only option is AES. But if you don't want to spend more than $50 a game, you're pretty much left with emulation.

The reality is, there is no cheap way to get into Neo Geo. If you refuse to spend more than $50 a game, then you are really looking at the wrong console to get into. That's just the facts. You're either going to have to learn to accept some brutal load times, get over your fear of MVS or get ready to pony up some big bucks for games.

Believe me. You're talking to someone who weighed all the options and came out building a supergun and 2 slot MVS. There plain and simply is NO cheap way to get into Neo Geo unless you can tolerate load times. Period.

[PDorr3]

I'm a purist though. If it's not original hardware (uogrades are OK) it's a contraption. A cab mobo rigged to your TV is a contraption. It may be a really cool looking contraption, but still a contraption.

Some people like nice contraptions. Not my thing. :)

omnedon took the words out of my mouth, I like original hardware, not "contraptions".

I think my final decision is going to be an AES, I thought long and hard and I think I will like it. If the early games catch my addiction I am sure I will be willing to spend $50-100 on other games. Sure I cant get metal slug or last blade, but thats where the phantom-1 comes in. Once I have a sizeable sum of money I will buy a converter and mvs games, this way I have my MVS games along with an original AES :)

I appreciate all your feedback guys, it really did help me along this hard decision, but I think as a gamer I want to experience my games the best way possible, on the original hardware.

AES here I come!

[DeputyMoniker]

I'm a purist though. If it's not original hardware (uogrades are OK) it's a contraption. A cab mobo rigged to your TV is a contraption. It may be a really cool looking contraption, but still a contraption.

Some people like nice contraptions. Not my thing. :)

omnedon took the words out of my mouth, I like original hardware, not "contraptions".

I think my final decision is going to be an AES, I thought long and hard and I think I will like it. If the early games catch my addiction I am sure I will be willing to spend $50-100 on other games. Sure I cant get metal slug or last blade, but thats where the phantom-1 comes in. Once I have a sizeable sum of money I will buy a converter and mvs games, this way I have my MVS games along with an original AES :)

I appreciate all your feedback guys, it really did help me along this hard decision, but I think as a gamer I want to experience my games the best way possible, on the original hardware.

AES here I come!

MVS is the original hardware. LOL
You'll understand some day. 8-)

[PDorr3]

I do understand, I know it is the hardware used in arcade cabs, but I really do like the look of a real liscenced system instead of a "contraption" that was made to house jumbled wires.

[omnedon]

*Excellent*

/rubs hands together

AES is fine, Just pace yourself, and eventually go Phantom. The Neo world is then your oyster.

I have no truck against MVS. It's just for my games room, a consolized contraption is not going to make the cut. If I had the space for a Real Cab, that's a different story. :)

[Tron 2.0]

I'm a purist though. If it's not original hardware (uogrades are OK) it's a contraption. A cab mobo rigged to your TV is a contraption. It may be a really cool looking contraption, but still a contraption.

Some people like nice contraptions. Not my thing. :)

omnedon took the words out of my mouth, I like original hardware, not "contraptions".

I think my final decision is going to be an AES, I thought long and hard and I think I will like it. If the early games catch my addiction I am sure I will be willing to spend $50-100 on other games. Sure I cant get metal slug or last blade, but thats where the phantom-1 comes in. Once I have a sizeable sum of money I will buy a converter and mvs games, this way I have my MVS games along with an original AES :)

I appreciate all your feedback guys, it really did help me along this hard decision, but I think as a gamer I want to experience my games the best way possible, on the original hardware.

AES here I come!
Since your going AES read this.

Btw i still feel the Phantom 1 is waste of $.

How i know i used to have a, AES+Phantom 1 set up befor going MVS all the way.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87718