How hypocritical are we?

[Gamereviewgod]

Somone is going to hate me for this one... LOL

There's always some post out there in the forums about how unoriginal games are today, how there's nothing to play. Everything is a FPS, or 3-D, and that's bad...

Yet...

There's a four page thread on Nanostray, a vertical, 2-D shooter that's hardly different from the 3,000 of them before it. I'm not saying it's a bad game; I love it.

I just believe it's wrong on some people's parts (and I'm not pointing fingers because I would even know where to point them) to bitch about how unoriginal games are, but flock to a new 2-D Mario on the DS. Is it something to be excited about? Hell yes. Is that any reason to damn the current industry because of a FPS glut? No. You're being drawn to the same unoriginal titles you seem to hate. I don't get it.

[RCM]

Somone is going to hate me for this one... LOL

There's always some post out there in the forums about how unoriginal games are today, how there's nothing to play. Everything is a FPS, or 3-D, and that's bad...

Yet...

There's a four page thread on Nanostray, a vertical, 2-D shooter that's hardly different from the 3,000 of them before it. I'm not saying it's a bad game; I love it.

I just believe it's wrong on some people's parts (and I'm not pointing fingers because I would even know where to point them) to bitch about how unoriginal games are, but flock to a new 2-D Mario on the DS. Is it something to be excited about? Hell yes. Is that any reason to damn the current industry because of a FPS glut? No. You're being drawn to the same unoriginal titles you seem to hate. I don't get it.

Well GRG, as far as Nanostray is concerned, the thread that I started for the game that I love, for the most part it's not original at all. But just because it's not original doesn't mean the shooter faithful can't be excited. Few shooters get released in the states anymore. So I guess for people that only started in the PS or PS2 generation it's something new and something to get excited about.
People are drawn to new 2D stuff, few people I might add, because it is uncommon.

People have a legit gripe in many console generations to bitch about unorginal content. But just b/c shite is unoriginal doens't mean it's bad. My point? I don't know, i'm drunk.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[fpstream]

Thank you for summing up everything I've thought. Just because you don't like Halo 2, or any FPS in the matter, doesn't mean you have to call the people stupid. People can be just as hardcore about an FPS as they can be about an RPG, take Counter-Strike for an example. So I like the FPS genre, I don't bash on Final Fantasy 3 for being the same as Final Fantasy 2. It's just because FPS are the genre right now, and people hate the popular. If the games that were popular right now were Side Scrolling Beat 'Em Ups than people would be knocking them, "Oh, it's just the same as River City Ransom. Why doesn't anybody appreciate 3-D FPS?" The point of life is to satify one's personal rational needs, if that happens to be Halo or Half-Life 2, or GTA: SA, than be it. FPS can be origianl to, Deus Ex and System Shock are fine examples. If people were into RPGs than X-Play and IGN would be kinder to them, they're just trying to run a business. Believe me it's tough being the same, though the majority tries not to be. Just please before you speak, or post, think about what're you're saying. Every genre has a "fanboy" or mainstream gamer. Remember when everybody was playing Final Fantasy 7 but nobody touched Parasite Eve, Vandals Heart, and Vagrant Story. Was anybody complaining about how RPGs are all the same, they're so mainstream and fanboyish? FPS are the trend and people hate them for that. Again, hypocritical.

[theguyonthecouch]

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[Sylentwulf]

How unoriginal games are has been around since pong. The complaint won't ever stop, I just ignore all those threads. If people don't like them, why do they buy them?

[jdc]

Many people bash BEFORE they've tried a game....because it's cool to bash everything in this angst-filled world that we live in.

Many clone games have at least one ingredient of originality in them, however small it may be. But then it gets bashed for the one thing that makes it different from the original.

As I type this I'm playing LOTR The Third Age on Xbox, which is a game that I first played on the PS2. It was brilliant then.....and it's even better on the Xbox. It was bashed miserably....because it tried (and succeeded) to deliver a turn-based RPG in a new way. One of THE best turn-based games I've ever played, and shot down by nearly every site and mag out there. For shame. People really DON'T want different....because clones are predictable. It's easy to "master" a game when it's got the same formula that you're used to.

[smork]

Originality is way overrated in games, IMO. Give me a derivative but totally enjoyable game over an original but busted game. I mean, is SMB3 bad because it's a 2D platformer like its predecessors? Of course not. Most RPGs and FPS are at least somewhat unoriginal - but if a certain gameplay mechanic works, what's the complaint? It's either a good game or it's not. Katamari Damacy is original and great. Stretch Panic is original and not so great. Skies of Arcadia has a derivative storyline (in an original univers), but it's great fun. People like to bash Halo, but it's also hella good fun.

Shooters may be the most derivative in the spectrum -- but a well-executed shooter is a beautiful thing to play.

I guess what I am saying is thatI like what I like, and I don't care if it's a ripoff of Time Pilot or Ultima 4...

[Uzi 9mm]

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Thanks for the contribution. :roll:

But seriously, I could care less about unoriginailty. There aren't many "original" games nowadays, so I have just decided to not complain about unoriginality, and just enjoy the games.

[Cmosfm]

Thanks for bringing this up, I noticed this a LONG time ago...a new 3D platformer comes out and "Oh same old shit seen it before, fuck this, when's new stuff coming out, game drought, new games suck"

Then a new 2D platformer comes out...just like all the thousands of 2D platformers that are out already...and people go batshit insane over it!

I'm just glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.

[§ Gideon §]

Then a new 2D platformer comes out...just like all the thousands of 2D platformers that are out already...and people go batshit insane over it!
Alien Hominid?

[Cmosfm]

Then a new 2D platformer comes out...just like all the thousands of 2D platformers that are out already...and people go batshit insane over it!
Alien Hominid?

I for one didn't see anything new or innovative in it, just another Metal Slug clone.

[§ Gideon §]

Ah, I thought so. Wasn't it more of a Metal Slug clone with a dash of Contra? Haha.

[Flack]

Here's why.

Inherently, people know more about genres they like. For example, let's say you're a SHMUP guy. You can list 30 differences between 1941 and 1942. To someone who doesn't enjoy the genre and hasn't played it much, they look like the same game.

My theory is, most of these generalizations ("all first person shooters are the same") are coming from people who don't play them much. Same goes for SHMUPs, 3D platformers, 2D platformers, or whatever. I know that's the case for me. I don't play FPS not only because I don't care for them, but because they all look alike. Or maybe they all look alike since I don't play them. I dunno.

[Lady Jaye]

Another thing that wasn't pointed out, is that, just like children, we like the reassuring warmth of what's familiar (think of the child who HAS to hear the story of Little Red Riding Hood for the 1000th time). Even when a game does have innovative elements, we bask in the familiar grounds it shares with its predecessors. And that's why, for example, fantasy-based RPGs are still popular today.

And Flack is right: when you like a genre, you can discern the subtle (and not-so-subtle) differences between a given game and another. When you don't care for it, it's all the same.

[classicb]

well I think Flack already hit the why factor

I also think that video games have finally been around long enough to experience a cycle in the industry. Happens in fashion, music, movies just about every consumer industry. People like different, it doesn't mattter if its been done before if its not being done now then its new. My dad always say "i didn't think that would come back in style"

I think people are excited about the old stuff because there's too much of the new stuff and to some who never tried the old stuff its totally new or its cool because its a throw back.

or I'm completly talking out my ass because like RCM I've had a few drinks.

[Haoie]

Well, I think the issue of remakes is worse. Why play something you've already seen before and may very well own anyyway? It demonstrates more lacking sense of originality than games that simply resembles other games, ala Metal Slug to Contra as been mentioned.

[Sothy]

Theres plenty of "new" gameplay to be had with first person shooters. Ive been playong this one in one for years and it still has a huge online community.

Cstrike players that see this pic will be like "wtf?" eheh

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