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Anthony1
08-08-2005, 11:10 PM
Damn, don't you wish this was freaking true?



Imagine if somebody were to get the rights to all of the Digital Pictures Full Motion Video games. Stuff like Ground Zero Texas, Night Trap, Sewer Shark, Supreme Warrior, etc , etc.

Take the original footage, remaster it in the highest resolution possible, in it's native aspect ratio, and remix the sound with a 5.1 soundtrack.

The footage could be totally full screen, and it should be pretty freaking crystal clear. With the 5.1 sound and quick responsive controls, that would be a sweet thing.

Hopefully it would cause somebody to take a chance and make a modern day, big budget FMV game.




But until then, give me a crystal clear version of Ground Zero Texas with a remixed 5.1 audio track.

That shit would rock on my 113" dream machine.

CreamSoda
08-08-2005, 11:46 PM
1.Isn't this just a misleading topic to get everyones hopes up?

2.Does anyone care about the big screen you have(sorry but it's been mentioned before).

Sorry for being such an ass, but you kind of got my hopes up there.

:/

Anthony1
08-08-2005, 11:56 PM
1.Isn't this just a misleading topic to get everyones hopes up?

2.Does anyone care about the big screen you have(sorry but it's been mentioned before).

Sorry for being such an ass, but you kind of got my hopes up there.

:/



Yeah, it's definitely a misleading topic, and I'm sure that I've probably pissed somebody off, because they were thinking, "Yes, finally," and then they read and they find out it's a "only if" topic.


The thing is, I'm trying to get your reaction to this as if maybe it really was true. What would you think of such a collection?

We have different retro collections coming out all the time. Why not a Full Motion Video Collection?

Heck, it's possible it could even be done on regular DVD, and you just play it in a regular DVD player, although using the remote would suck pretty bad.


But you think about the Sonic collections and all the different collections coming out, it would be awesome if they did a Digital Pictures collection.



I wonder who would have the rights for those movies now? Would it be possible to get that old footage, the orignal footage on 35mm. You know 35mm, can actually be converted to HD. Could you imagine..... Seeing Ground Zero Texas in High Def? They could definitely remix the sound, although that would be a pain in the ass as well.


I would love to talk with Tom Zito. Anybody got his cell number?

Aussie2B
08-09-2005, 12:10 AM
I don't know how anyone could stomach playing Ground Zero Texas. o_O I mean, I love a good, cheesy FMV game, but that is one of the most insipid, dull games in existence. O_o

TheRedEye
08-09-2005, 12:57 AM
I'm sorry. As much as I appreciate your enthusiasm, that's the worst idea I've heard all week.

Lemmy Kilmister
08-09-2005, 01:07 AM
I'm gonna have to go with Redeye on this one. What that hell would ever make somebody want to go out and spend their hard earned money on an updated version of garbage like Corpse Killer? They'd be better off sending their money away to one of those 419 schemes then wasting it on a Digital Pictures collection.

Push Upstairs
08-09-2005, 03:03 AM
Shouldn't we just ignore these relics from that dark age when FMV was "the future" of gaming?

Reminds me of when PC Gamer reviewed the "re-release" of Mad Dog McCree....it got the lowest score ever in the magazine (4% I believe).

Why would anyone pay for a "game" that has zero replay value AGAIN?

DaBargainHunta
08-09-2005, 05:38 AM
Yeah, it's definitely a misleading topic, and I'm sure that I've probably pissed somebody off, because they were thinking, "Yes, finally," and then they read and they find out it's a "only if" topic.
*Raises hand*

Yeah, I'm pissed.

I know some of these games aren't "classics" in the strictest definition of the word, but I had fun with 'em - especially Night Trap.

Thanks for nothing, Anthony1. :/

klausien
08-09-2005, 05:59 AM
Man this thread is a prick-tease. :shameful:

Anyway, I would pick something like this up, but the DVD releases of games such as Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective & Dragon's Lair are sufficient.

Oobgarm
08-09-2005, 06:08 AM
The thing is, I'm trying to get your reaction to this as if maybe it really was true. What would you think of such a collection?

Then why not change the topic to say "What would you think of a Digital Pictures collection?" or something less misleading?

At any rate, I bet it would look like shit on my 120" Dream Machine. My 120" Dream Machine wasn't designed for poor-quality FMV gaming.

Dangerboy
08-09-2005, 07:16 AM
1. Anthony1...seriously bro....STFU about anything that has to do with:
a. a television or monitor
b. any type of resolution
c. any sort of three letter abbreviation that inlcudes the letters R, G, or B.
d. The word 'scart'
e. Anything found in your house related to entertainment.

2. Misleading topics do not make a for good company. They also waste others times and bandwidth space.

3. Being a huge Sewer Shark and Night Trap fan, I would whole heartedly have to disagree with you. Half the amusement of said titles (and all other Digital Pictures) games was just how cheesy they were, specifically because of their grainy and god awful visuals that people were touting the "future of gaming" was to anyone who believed FMV was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

After games like Xenosaga/Gears that abused the cut scene time to the point of being a freaking movie, no one in their right mind would by a Digital Pictures remake disc. Between Live and Slam City, any Street Fighter and Supreme Warrior, any FPS and Sewer Shark, and any game period or Night Trap, the only thing DP that would come close to my game systems would be the Digital Press price guide.

Moral of story:
a. No more fake topics
b. No more talk of owned electronics. Ever.

Off to go sell Maddens way too early in the morning.

Jason

Flack
08-09-2005, 09:04 AM
I thought FMV was probably the worst era of gaming. Ever. It was the ultimate sacrifice of graphics over gameplay. There are probably more joystick moves in the first level or two of Pac-Man than there are in the entire Dragon's Lair game. FMV were a technology experiment gone wrong. Sure, they introduced the magic of CD-Roms (and crappy video comperession) to the general public, but usually at the cost of gaming quality. Phantasmagoria, which came on 11 CD's, is simply not a better game than the old Sierra games, which will fit on a 1.44 floppy.

I'm as old school as the next guy, but FMV sucked and if they remastered old FMV games for new systems it would simply be a waste of everybody's time.

Neil Koch
08-09-2005, 09:08 AM
Heck, it's possible it could even be done on regular DVD, and you just play it in a regular DVD player, although using the remote would suck pretty bad.

I had Dragon's Lair on DVD and it did suck using the remote to try and control the "action". I sold it off after about a week.

I probably would pick up a Digital Pictures collection, but it would have to be super cheap -- like $20 for all of the games on one or two discs.

kainemaxwell
08-09-2005, 09:23 AM
Making something like that would be too much of a niche title, and the payoff likely wouldn't outweigh the costs.

zmweasel
08-09-2005, 09:38 AM
I'd love to see a high-def/Dolby 5.1 version of the very pleasantly cheesy Night Trap. It'd actually be an easier sell than a DP compilation, especially if its "controversial" background was promoted.

-- Z.

chrisbid
08-09-2005, 09:45 AM
everyone rags on FMVs, but face it, they are a permanent part of gaming now, as even freakin handheld games are required to have them.

like the gameplay or not, dragons lair and night trap are both well known video games for their own reasons.

davepesc
08-09-2005, 10:06 AM
Heck, it's possible it could even be done on regular DVD, and you just play it in a regular DVD player, although using the remote would suck pretty bad.

I had Dragon's Lair on DVD and it did suck using the remote to try and control the "action". I sold it off after about a week.

I probably would pick up a Digital Pictures collection, but it would have to be super cheap -- like $20 for all of the games on one or two discs.

I've got Space Ace on DVD and there is a pause as the player reads the disc after every input.

Totally unplayable, but I kept it because it includes video of a perfect run and interviews and stuff.

Cmosfm
08-09-2005, 10:07 AM
1. Anthony1...seriously bro....STFU about anything that has to do with:
a. a television or monitor
b. any type of resolution
c. any sort of three letter abbreviation that inlcudes the letters R, G, or B.
d. The word 'scart'
e. Anything found in your house related to entertainment.

2. Misleading topics do not make a for good company. They also waste others times and bandwidth space.

3. Being a huge Sewer Shark and Night Trap fan, I would whole heartedly have to disagree with you. Half the amusement of said titles (and all other Digital Pictures) games was just how cheesy they were, specifically because of their grainy and god awful visuals that people were touting the "future of gaming" was to anyone who believed FMV was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

After games like Xenosaga/Gears that abused the cut scene time to the point of being a freaking movie, no one in their right mind would by a Digital Pictures remake disc. Between Live and Slam City, any Street Fighter and Supreme Warrior, any FPS and Sewer Shark, and any game period or Night Trap, the only thing DP that would come close to my game systems would be the Digital Press price guide.

Moral of story:
a. No more fake topics
b. No more talk of owned electronics. Ever.

Off to go sell Maddens way too early in the morning.

Jason

Amen!

Not only did you get my hopes up, but you've pissed me off too, no one gives a shit about your TV and no one likes misleading topics.

Thanks, thanks for that.

kainemaxwell
08-09-2005, 10:12 AM
Ever think of making a topic where you don't mention your TV?

s1lence
08-09-2005, 10:21 AM
OMG you have a big screen?????

I'm going to have to side with dangerboy on this, nobody cares. I think you should mislead people a little bit more. :angry:

Kid Ice
08-09-2005, 11:09 AM
When I saw the topic I thought, "Finally, a reason for me to get an X-box".

Cool idea, but I'm not a fan of the "fake" topics either.

anagrama
08-09-2005, 11:23 AM
Aw, come on - railing on Anthony1 for his AV-fetish was soooo 6 months ago. Get with it, kids... LOL

LiquidPolicenaut
08-09-2005, 11:30 AM
I actually have Sherlock Holmes on DVD and it actually doesn't play that bad. No lag time at all but, oddly enough, I liked playing it more on my Sega CD for some reason. They also released Dracula Unleashed on DVD and I wonder how that one came out. It's probably the same...super-crisp, bigger screen DVD quality video, but a bit harder to naviagte with a remote and not a controller.

davidbrit2
08-09-2005, 12:09 PM
Damn, don't you wish this was freaking true?

DUDE, TOTALLY. And the XBox version of Kriss Kross Make My Video will be FUCKING AWESOME!!!

Frankly I don't see how releasing a compilation of a bunch of games with shitty acting and almost no gameplay - and that gave the Sega CD it's horrible reputation for shit games - could be anything but a bad idea. You would have to pay me to play Sewer Shark.

Kamino
08-09-2005, 12:12 PM
WTF? This makes no sense...
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Neil Koch
08-09-2005, 04:26 PM
I actually have Sherlock Holmes on DVD and it actually doesn't play that bad.

Yeah, but that's a point-and-click game. It doesn't need specific timing like Dragon's Lair.

Anthony1
08-10-2005, 11:19 PM
Ok, forget the whole TV thing. I won't mention that anymore.

It's just when I get excited about playing something, I can't help but think how cool it's going to be on my 113 incher. And I will say that when the XBOX 360 comes out, I will be talking about how it looks on my Theater, I'm not going to be able to help myself then.

But I will refrain from talking about the 113 incher until the release of the XBOX 360 in November.




As for the Full Motion Games from Digital Pictures, I'm going to defend "some" of their games till the day I die.



Are the FMV games really video games?


NO.


Are they really interactive?

NO.



Is the acting as cheesy as it can possibly get?


HELL YES.




I'll admit all of that. I know that. I understand that. But I still think that "some" of them are damn fun entertainment, if you take it for what it is, and not wish that it was more interactive.


It is what it is.


Ok, so you don't have real control over anything, and it's basically a video game version of the choose your own adventure books. But I take them for what they are, and still enjoy them.

At least some of them.



The Digital Pictures game that I keep playing right now is Ground Zero Texas. I just love this damn game. Is the acting the most cheesiest acting ever? Yep. But still, I find it to be quite enjoyable. Is the shooting very accurate or precise? No. But I still find it enjoyable. There definitely is some skill involved in some of these games.


The whole point of the Full Motion Video games to me, is to do whatever I need to do in the game to be able to see all of the movie. That's what it's all about to me. I want to see all the video in Ground Zero Texas. So I want to survive in the game and get as far as I can. Same thing with Sewer Shark. I still haven't completely finished that game and gotten to see the tropical island that the fat dude lives on.


And Night Trap, don't even get me started on Night Trap. Night Trap was a damn inventive game if you ask me. And it has Dana Plato in perhaps her finest performance!


These games have this really early 90's corny flavor to them, that I love. Now, do I like all of these Full Motion Video games?


Hell no. Some of them suck super bad. Like Corpse Killer. That is the most laughable FMV game that I've played so far. Quaterback Attack is pretty damn crappy too.


But I think that there are some truly redeeming FMV games out there, if you take them for what they are, and understand their limitations and just go with the flow and give them a legitimate chance to entertain you.

It's kinda like when you watch a truly horrible movie, and the movie is just so damn horrible that it's actually somewhat entertaining.


SO STEP THE F OFF WHEN IT COMES TO DIGITAL PICTURES



TOM ZITO, I GOT YOUR BACK, BRO.

evildead2099
11-20-2005, 05:19 PM
Phantasmagoria, which came on 11 CD's, is simply not a better game than the old Sierra games, which will fit on a 1.44 floppy.

Phantasmagoria didn't come on 11 CDs; the original came on 7 CDs, while its sequel came on 5 CDs.

It's not quite fair to compare Phantasmagoria to Sierra's older, classic point-&-click graphical adventures. Phantasmagoria is more about storytelling than it is about solving adventure-based puzzles.

evildead2099
11-20-2005, 05:22 PM
I want to play an edition of Night Trap that actually lives up to the audacity of Joe Lieberman's hyperbole.

shopkins
11-21-2005, 01:53 AM
Night Trap 2006. It needs to happen. All pornstar cast this time with explicit sex, but violent enough to get an AO just for that. I'd like to see how Sen. Clinton would respond.

I really like FMV games, despite their cheesiness. I never really cared for the ones like Night Trap, Ground Zero Texas, Double Switch or any that make you watch more than one location, but the more linear ones like Wirehead, Timegal, Revenge of the Ninja, Space Ace and especially Road Avenger are good cheesy fun, even though the gameplay boils down to memorizing the patterns.

I would like to see a collection for a modern console, a port that was good enough that it was still playable, because I'd like to see what the video in some of my favorites looks like in full resolution. I really don't think that's going to happen, though.

Casual gamers might have nostalgic memories of Space Ace, Maddog Mcree and Dragon's Lair machines, but I doubt many of them sit around thinking about how cool Wirehead or Ground Zero Texas was. The most likely one is Night Trap, and only because it of the scandals that surrounded it.

Jorpho
11-22-2005, 10:17 PM
DUDE, TOTALLY. And the XBox version of Kriss Kross Make My Video will be FUCKING AWESOME!!!

Ouch!


Night Trap 2006. It needs to happen. All pornstar cast this time with explicit sex, but violent enough to get an AO just for that. I'd like to see how Sen. Clinton would respond.

Why stop there? Go for Night Trap: The Broadway Stage Musical!

Surely most of Digital Pictures's games would function adequately on an ordinary DVD player? (The unfortunate pauses in the DVD versions of Space Ace, etc are apparently only evident in some varieties of hardware.)

zmweasel
12-21-2005, 07:29 AM
I just picked up a dirt-cheap copy of "Game Over," an atrocious 2003 direct-to-DVD flick that incorporates footage from several Digital Pictures games. Here's an Amazon.com link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000ZG0RW/qid=1135170429/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/102-0683053-1392143?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130).

Featured DP titles include Prize Fighter, Corpse Killer, Quarterback Attack, Supreme Warrior, and the unreleased Maximum Surge. (The packaging hypes Walter Koenig and Yasmine Bleeth, who appear in the Surge footage, as the stars of the "movie.") It's kind of neat and kind of weird to see this stuff with DVD sharpness instead of FMV fuzziness--Prize Fighter, in particular, since it was only released for the SEGA CD.

According to the end credits, the DP footage is now owned by a Canadian company called Cybercinema Interactive. I couldn't find a website, though--only an online resume of a fellow who worked on a PC version of Kids on Site for CCI.

Anyway. This is probably the closest we're ever gonna get to a DP collection.

-- Z.

Anthony1
12-21-2005, 12:52 PM
I just picked up a dirt-cheap copy of "Game Over," an atrocious 2003 direct-to-DVD flick that incorporates footage from several Digital Pictures games. Here's an Amazon.com link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000ZG0RW/qid=1135170429/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/102-0683053-1392143?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130).

Featured DP titles include Prize Fighter, Corpse Killer, Quarterback Attack, Supreme Warrior, and the unreleased Maximum Surge. (The packaging hypes Walter Koenig and Yasmine Bleeth, who appear in the Surge footage, as the stars of the "movie.") It's kind of neat and kind of weird to see this stuff with DVD sharpness instead of FMV fuzziness--Prize Fighter, in particular, since it was only released for the SEGA CD.

According to the end credits, the DP footage is now owned by a Canadian company called Cybercinema Interactive. I couldn't find a website, though--only an online resume of a fellow who worked on a PC version of Kids on Site for CCI.

Anyway. This is probably the closest we're ever gonna get to a DP collection.

-- Z.




I remember reading about Maximum Surge, did that come out for the PC? The word back in the day was that Maximum Surge was going to be the FMV game that finally got some respect for being closer to a real video game. Somehow you actually moved your character and could duck or dodge or something.

I would love to try Maximum Surge out.

Somebody needs to get in contact with Cybercinema Interactive and see if they would be willing to sell the rights to a company that would actually do something with them. I'm tellin ya, they need to transfer the footage to HD, and remix the sound for 5.1 sound and re-release the games for $19.99 on Xbox. They could sell them in 2 packs. Like Night Trap & Ground Zero on one, Sewer Shark and Double Switch on one, etc, etc.

or somebody needs to send them a link to this post. Maybe it will inspire them to do something with that IP.

pacmanhat
12-21-2005, 01:00 PM
Something about this doesn't check out...

If these were to be restored, you wouldn't just need the rights. You'd in all likelyhood need the original video footage, which could potentially prove much harder to get a hold of (I'd wager that some of that stuff no longer exists). Additionally, while the hype for retro games is HUGE right now, gamers DO have standards. And I'm pretty sure that these games would fall below that standard. By a large margain.

If this actually happened, though, I would totally pick them up. I'd love to suffer through a restored version of some campy crap, laughing at it from start to finish.

zmweasel
12-21-2005, 01:50 PM
I remember reading about Maximum Surge, did that come out for the PC? The word back in the day was that Maximum Surge was going to be the FMV game that finally got some respect for being closer to a real video game. Somehow you actually moved your character and could duck or dodge or something.

I don't believe Maximum Surge shipped for the PC or anything else, alas. (I have the PC version of Night Trap only because it includes a too-short DP-produced documentary on the controversy surrounding the game.)

The "Game Over" footage and magazine previews from back in the day lead me to take an educated guess that Surge was a modestly improved tech-sequel to Ground Zero Texas, much like Double Switch was a follow-up to Night Trap, and Supreme Warrior a sequel to Prize Fighter. The also-unreleased Citizen X (unless you count the $15 beta burns from Good Deal Games, and I don't) is much more of a traditional video game than Surge woulda been.

And, yeah, "Game Over" definitely whets the appetite for a DVD version of Night Trap. Maybe a resourceful FMV fan will contact Cybercinema Interactive via York Entertainment (the distributor of "Game Over"), or Insight Film & Video (the producer), or Avrio Filmworks Releasing (the, uh, releaser), and find out what the hell's the deal.

-- Z.