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DreamTR
08-11-2005, 01:29 PM
They received way more than 144 apiece. They restocked Rhaposdy the other day after they originally sold out, and bought another run from a wholesaler here.

There's also no need to think GameQuestdirect is "shady", they are local to me, and have a couple of retail stores (with the same sealed products) and have been selling for years here. We have a glutton of distributors out here, and everything can be obtained cheaper. The Rhapsody/Persona 2 thing is not that suprising because ATLUS is also local, and there are so many wholesalers here holding things back you would not beleieve your eyes.

I sold around 50-75 Zelda COllector's Editions on eBay last year. All came from a distributor/wholesaler. They are in flea markets all over the place, and if you work at a game store, you can get all sorts of crazy hookups out here. I have to say, that Los Angeles, as much as I complain about lack of mom and pop stores, there are still a few really REALLY good wholesalers that sell all sorts of goodies you would not believe. Namco Museum V? It was here. Resident Evils? They started from here, same with Pocket Fighter and Puzzle Fighter...

walrusmonger
08-11-2005, 02:11 PM
Thanks for rubbing it in :( I was just in LA for e3 and didn't see any game stores at all. Back then I was also loaded with spending money. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

norkusa
08-11-2005, 02:12 PM
Man, someone is pissed that I shared this info with you guys. Pulled this from the Persona 2/Rhapsody thread over at CAG.

Isn't GunPanther a member here? Or did he get banned?


Okay, I see your point in not hiding the information, but as far as the free shipping for CAG forum members, norkusa is telling everyone how to use the exclusive CAG discount meant for CAG members.

A few people have already taken advantage of this and are using the CAG codes themselves.

As you can see, I have no love for the DP forums, especially since they have jerkoff moderators who freely ban users just because those users being banned don't agree with what the moderators are thinking. In other words, their moderators are thinking "Don't like my opinion? THEN I'll BAN YOU!!!!11!!!! muahahahaha!!!!!!".

Well, back to the deal.

You really think that these are going to make the prices drop a bit?

Just curious.



GunPanther

ChronoTriggaFoo
08-11-2005, 02:23 PM
Oh yes. I definitely remember GunPanther and his excessive use of these: :snipersmile: :rockets: :2gunfire: :texaschain:

Judging by what he said about the moderators and how they ban, definitely looks like he was banned from this site.

I say good-riddance.

Anyhow, to stay on topic, I wonder which other distributor has their hands on these, and how many they have. This is looking a little gloomy to me on the collector side, but its nice for those that just wanted to experience these games.

MegaManFan
08-11-2005, 02:28 PM
When I checked eBay they were $79.99 with about 22 copies each. I made Best Offers of $44 each (which would be $50 with shipping) so we'll see if they accept. If not no big loss.

DreamTR
08-11-2005, 02:50 PM
I go to the store and put em in the cart until I'm out. Distributors here have plenty apparently.

video_game_addict
08-11-2005, 03:22 PM
Isn't GunPanther a member here? Or did he get banned?

He backed out of a deal with me once awhile back. He had asked me to hold some items for about a week, then no updates or replies to my pms, just silence. You think if you pm someone asking for stuff, and asking to hold items for you, you could at least pm again and tell them you've changed your mind if you don't want to complete the deal. :/ Wouldn't even reply to my pms asking if he was still interested.

You could add me to the good-riddance list.



Back to the topic at hand though, hypothesize for a moment.. and say that there are really 5K copies of these sitting in a wholeseller's warehouse somewhere, how long do you think it would take to sell out?


I'm guessing at least 75% of every copy sold by GameQuest thus far have been bought with the intent to resell.

SO if the resellers are able to buy out the wholesellers, then what? Are they able to resell at profit? Or will they sell to other resellers?

I doubt that many people are crazy about spending $50 on a PS1 game just to play. If so they could have done that 5 years ago when they were new in stores.

I'm sure there will continue to be a market for them, but how many buyers will be willing to pay $50 a pop, or more I don't really know.

sirhansirhan
08-11-2005, 03:52 PM
I called the customer service hotline today to make sure my order went through since I never got a confirmation email, and the order had gone through. The reason I never got the email was because I had a typo in my entered email address. I am such an idiot. But yeah, I'm armed with a tracking number and everything.

And I'm glad that I only bought one copy of Rhapsody, with which I plan to open and play and keep in my collection. Letting the resellers sweat their long-term market value is okay with me (not to place myself on a higher moral ground than you resellers, as I am prone to that kind of thing, too).

norkusa
08-11-2005, 04:35 PM
I've been keeping an eye on the thread over at CAG and some people there have already got their copies of Rhapsody. They all say so far that there is no white sticker seal on the top of the game like there should be.

People are saying that this means these are either re-prints or refurbished games. Hmmm. :?

BobbyRobby
08-11-2005, 05:09 PM
I'm guessing reprint. They pulled the same thing with Resident Evil 2 for Gamecube, claimed they just found some stock laying around.

norkusa
08-11-2005, 05:16 PM
I'm guessing reprint. They pulled the same thing with Resident Evil 2 for Gamecube, claimed they just found some stock laying around.

Yeah, that is what it looks like. I'm totally amazed that any company would consider re-printing PS1 games now that the system is officially dead and hardly no retail stores carry new games anymore. I guess if they can re-print a crappy game like DBZ:Final Bout, then anything is possible I guess. :/

EDIT - Taken from CAG:


FOUND SOMETHING OUT

These are a VERY LIMITED REISSUE OF THE GAME only this company and they said around another 5 companies got this game Reissued. THese are NOT FIRST PRINTS OF THE GAMES. First prints will have the Seal the REISSUED games will not .... they are company sealed but since it was reissued That is why there is no SEAL....


Got to love how they didnt tell you think and they made everyone belive they found a BUNCH of old games just sitting around.


I just take the 15% hit on each and send them back


if you dont belive it call

Email - Service@atlus.com or Phone - (949) 788-0353

they have said they have gotten over 50 calls in the past 2 days about this and knew what two games i was talking about before i even asked

PERSONA 2 IS THE SAME REISSUED

ChronoTriggaFoo
08-11-2005, 05:33 PM
You.....gotta.......be.........KIDDING ME! O_O

If that's what happened, its not cool at ALL that they've been telling people that they were just some old stock recently found.

I SAY UPRISE AGAINST THE CORPORATE MACHINE!

Lemmy Kilmister
08-11-2005, 05:46 PM
Wow.. what the hell Atlus and Gamequestdirect? Way to come out of left field and reissue this game randomly and not let anyone know about it.

Well, whatever.. having glanced over at Cheapassgamer I found out it's basically the same game package with the same bar code and everything. It's just missing the top sticker slip that typically went on the top of PS1 games. Anyways, I'm still gonna' hold on to it and see what happens, because, well, I'll be damned to ship this back to CA with a 7.50 restocking fee.

ChronoTriggaFoo
08-11-2005, 05:52 PM
I think I've got a solution to that problem. Just use the following code:

CAGFREERESTOCK

LOL

VACRMH
08-11-2005, 05:59 PM
Even if it is a reprint, used copys went for well over $50. And most of us just bought a brand new condition copy :D

PapaStu
08-11-2005, 06:01 PM
These might not be reprints so much as they are return stock thats been reshrunk and resold. I find it VERY strange that Atlus years after these games were released just making a small run of the games. Especially with the licensing fees for PSOne games being non existant (for the most part) they could have done this nationally and made more as a company. :/

ANY new PSOne game (as far as I've ever known except Long Boxed games) *when sold as new* have that top seal on them. The 'reprint' of Super Puzzle Fighter had those stickers on them, the Atari re-release of DBGT:FinalBout had that sticker on it.

When some of the people here get them, it might be nice to see a post about the shrink wrap on these puppies. Also note if they have the 'hang tab' on them too. Thats a good sign of originality.

Muscelli
08-11-2005, 06:04 PM
meh re print schree print i spent 150 dollars on these games lol LOL please kill me LOL

Nate Nanjo
08-11-2005, 06:29 PM
Also note, go to Atlus website and the store section.

You'll notice both of the titles aren't on the Sony Playstation List.

tylerwillis
08-11-2005, 06:32 PM
This is completely random. Anyone who talked to Atlus get a ballpark figure on the print run for this reissue?

Muscelli
08-11-2005, 06:43 PM
should I sell right away before the market becomes over-saturated?

ChronoTriggaFoo
08-11-2005, 06:47 PM
NO NO don't sell right away. Just wait it out. If you're not planning on playing it, then just let it sit and forget about it, like I mentioned before. I have come back to games like that and they were worth something again.

Muscelli
08-11-2005, 06:49 PM
NO NO don't sell right away. Just wait it out. If you're not planning on playing it, then just let it sit and forget about it, like I mentioned before. I have come back to games like that and they were worth something again.

I bought 3 copies.. I am really afraid they will be like resident evil 2 and 3.. perhaps if I sold 2 right away and made like a 30 dollar profit on both, and then waited out for a while?

Bronty-2
08-11-2005, 08:20 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

kiun
08-11-2005, 08:30 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

how many copies did you buy ?

Muscelli
08-11-2005, 08:40 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

I hear ya! At least its some good trade bait

evil_genius
08-11-2005, 08:50 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

I hear ya! At least its some good trade bait

Not if everyone here has 6 of them. LOL

evil_genius
08-11-2005, 08:50 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

I hear ya! At least its some good trade bait

Not if everyone here has 6 of them. LOL

PDorr3
08-11-2005, 09:06 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

I hear ya! At least its some good trade bait

Not if everyone here has 6 of them. LOL

I bought 5 rhapsody, I sold 3 on ebay, and quickly ended the listing and called and canceled the extra one that had not sold yet (not to mention some ass undercut me by $5, bastard). Im keeping one for myself to rip open and play.

PDorr3
08-11-2005, 09:06 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

I hear ya! At least its some good trade bait

Not if everyone here has 6 of them. LOL

I bought 5 rhapsody, I sold 3 on ebay, and quickly ended the listing and called and canceled the extra one that had not sold yet (not to mention some ass undercut me by $5, bastard). Im keeping one for myself to rip open and play.

Bronty-2
08-11-2005, 10:12 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

how many copies did you buy ?

two copies of rhapsody. I was thinking of buying ten or so; I'm bloody glad I didn't. But all the same this is bullshit.

Bronty-2
08-11-2005, 10:12 PM
This is so gay it's not even funny. :/ :angry:

how many copies did you buy ?

two copies of rhapsody. I was thinking of buying ten or so; I'm bloody glad I didn't. But all the same this is bullshit.

sisko
08-11-2005, 10:35 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.

sisko
08-11-2005, 10:35 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.

Daria
08-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Also note, go to Atlus website and the store section.

You'll notice both of the titles aren't on the Sony Playstation List.

ATLUS sold the last copy in thier store something like 3 years ago for $20. Cause... I bought it. Wish I didn't have a cell phone bill due or I'd snag another for trade bait. Maybe they'll still be ins tock the 15th...? *crosses fingers and toes*

Daria
08-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Also note, go to Atlus website and the store section.

You'll notice both of the titles aren't on the Sony Playstation List.

ATLUS sold the last copy in thier store something like 3 years ago for $20. Cause... I bought it. Wish I didn't have a cell phone bill due or I'd snag another for trade bait. Maybe they'll still be ins tock the 15th...? *crosses fingers and toes*

drewbrim
08-11-2005, 11:16 PM
I only bought one and that was to play it. But I admit I wouldn't have paid $50 for one if it wasn't for the value (present and future) of the game. I just would've waited to find a used one on the cheap.

On a side note, has anyone played this game? Is it any good? What's it like or comparable to?

drewbrim
08-11-2005, 11:16 PM
I only bought one and that was to play it. But I admit I wouldn't have paid $50 for one if it wasn't for the value (present and future) of the game. I just would've waited to find a used one on the cheap.

On a side note, has anyone played this game? Is it any good? What's it like or comparable to?

Bronty-2
08-11-2005, 11:39 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.


whatever man. There was important ommission in what they were advertising. Not cool, whether you agree with it or not.

Bronty-2
08-11-2005, 11:39 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.


whatever man. There was important ommission in what they were advertising. Not cool, whether you agree with it or not.

sisko
08-12-2005, 12:16 AM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.


whatever man. There was important ommission in what they were advertising. Not cool, whether you agree with it or not.

No, they stated EXACTLY what they are selling. Rhapsody for PlayStation, New. If you get a used or bootleg copy, then you have reason to complain. Regardless if the game is a reprint or not, you are still getting Rhapsody for PlayStation, new.

If you don't like it, cancel ALL of your orders. Let other members participate in the deal that want to, rather than take advantage of both them and the deal.

sisko
08-12-2005, 12:16 AM
I have absolutely no sympathy for resellers who are bitching that they are getting screwed on a deal.


whatever man. There was important ommission in what they were advertising. Not cool, whether you agree with it or not.

No, they stated EXACTLY what they are selling. Rhapsody for PlayStation, New. If you get a used or bootleg copy, then you have reason to complain. Regardless if the game is a reprint or not, you are still getting Rhapsody for PlayStation, new.

If you don't like it, cancel ALL of your orders. Let other members participate in the deal that want to, rather than take advantage of both them and the deal.

Bronty-2
08-12-2005, 12:40 AM
are you finished with the holier than thou BS yet? I'd love to cancel my orders. Wouldn't have ordered them in the first place if I knew I was getting a reprint. I don't collect reprints, so sue me. Now that I've paid the anal rape $25 international shipping, am on the hook for the $20 anal rape customs charge, and would have to pay an anal rape $15 restock fee, this deal sucks all around. It would cost me $60 to 'cancel' an order that I wouldn't have made in the first place. Lovely.

As far as I'm concerned they should have been disclosing this. It's no different than greatest hits vs non greatest hits, IMO.

Or here's another example - how about selling a game as 'sealed' when it's resealed. Sure, it's technically true. You didn't say 'factory sealed.' But it's still BS.

Bronty-2
08-12-2005, 12:40 AM
are you finished with the holier than thou BS yet? I'd love to cancel my orders. Wouldn't have ordered them in the first place if I knew I was getting a reprint. I don't collect reprints, so sue me. Now that I've paid the anal rape $25 international shipping, am on the hook for the $20 anal rape customs charge, and would have to pay an anal rape $15 restock fee, this deal sucks all around. It would cost me $60 to 'cancel' an order that I wouldn't have made in the first place. Lovely.

As far as I'm concerned they should have been disclosing this. It's no different than greatest hits vs non greatest hits, IMO.

Or here's another example - how about selling a game as 'sealed' when it's resealed. Sure, it's technically true. You didn't say 'factory sealed.' But it's still BS.

PDorr3
08-12-2005, 02:01 AM
Or here's another example - how about selling a game as 'sealed' when it's resealed. Sure, it's technically true. You didn't say 'factory sealed.' But it's still BS.

both of you have valid points, but I must agree with sisko, it said new and factory sealed, and we cant complain as there are indeed new and factory sealed. Nothing we can do about that.

PDorr3
08-12-2005, 02:01 AM
Or here's another example - how about selling a game as 'sealed' when it's resealed. Sure, it's technically true. You didn't say 'factory sealed.' But it's still BS.

both of you have valid points, but I must agree with sisko, it said new and factory sealed, and we cant complain as there are indeed new and factory sealed. Nothing we can do about that.

MegaManFan
08-12-2005, 02:40 AM
Well now that I know these are reprints, I'm kinda glad the eBay seller turned down my "best offer" of $44 each. It sounds like they're not worth more than actual MSRP. What did the reprint of the Dragonball Z game go for, $19.99? Atlus should sell the game through their website direct a la Capcom instead of letting shady thirdhand dealers straight up jack people.

MegaManFan
08-12-2005, 02:40 AM
Well now that I know these are reprints, I'm kinda glad the eBay seller turned down my "best offer" of $44 each. It sounds like they're not worth more than actual MSRP. What did the reprint of the Dragonball Z game go for, $19.99? Atlus should sell the game through their website direct a la Capcom instead of letting shady thirdhand dealers straight up jack people.

maxlords
08-12-2005, 03:15 AM
They're not reprints, silly people. Returned and resealed copies maybe. Anyone have PROOF they're reprints? Or pics of them to show that there's no white seal?

maxlords
08-12-2005, 03:15 AM
They're not reprints, silly people. Returned and resealed copies maybe. Anyone have PROOF they're reprints? Or pics of them to show that there's no white seal?

BobbyRobby
08-12-2005, 04:20 AM
Members of CAG who said they have received their copies said no white seal.

BobbyRobby
08-12-2005, 04:20 AM
Members of CAG who said they have received their copies said no white seal.

Promophile
08-12-2005, 06:44 AM
Yep this is the best part of business, the gamble. Sometimes you only have a couple hours to weigh the risk vs reward. I don't feel sorry for people that ordered either. Its all part of doing business.

EDIT:

I just checked ebay. Of the auctions which have pictures of the actual games I saw one that had the white sticker and two that obviously didn't.

Promophile
08-12-2005, 06:44 AM
Yep this is the best part of business, the gamble. Sometimes you only have a couple hours to weigh the risk vs reward. I don't feel sorry for people that ordered either. Its all part of doing business.

EDIT:

I just checked ebay. Of the auctions which have pictures of the actual games I saw one that had the white sticker and two that obviously didn't.

maxlords
08-12-2005, 07:58 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

maxlords
08-12-2005, 07:58 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

VACRMH
08-12-2005, 08:43 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

Supposedly some of the newer PS2 games are being released without a white seal. That's another reason people are thinking it's a reprint. (That and some people said they spoke to atlus and they confirmed it)

While it was very shady of this company to not mention anything of the sort, I still think it's a great deal (What did a used copy go for recently? Wasn't it $130?)

Atlus has alot of spare manuals and cases for sale at www.atlus.com, maybe they just decided to print out some extra games as well?

VACRMH
08-12-2005, 08:43 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

Supposedly some of the newer PS2 games are being released without a white seal. That's another reason people are thinking it's a reprint. (That and some people said they spoke to atlus and they confirmed it)

While it was very shady of this company to not mention anything of the sort, I still think it's a great deal (What did a used copy go for recently? Wasn't it $130?)

Atlus has alot of spare manuals and cases for sale at www.atlus.com, maybe they just decided to print out some extra games as well?

Daria
08-12-2005, 09:02 AM
On a side note, has anyone played this game? Is it any good? What's it like or comparable to?

It's like sugar coated girly gaming on crack in which your characters sporatically burst into fully vocalized song.

I loved it, but needless to say it's not a game for everyone.

Daria
08-12-2005, 09:02 AM
On a side note, has anyone played this game? Is it any good? What's it like or comparable to?

It's like sugar coated girly gaming on crack in which your characters sporatically burst into fully vocalized song.

I loved it, but needless to say it's not a game for everyone.

kiun
08-12-2005, 11:37 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

kiun
08-12-2005, 11:37 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

Oobgarm
08-12-2005, 11:39 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

BUT all new PSX games did have the sticker.

Oobgarm
08-12-2005, 11:39 AM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

BUT all new PSX games did have the sticker.

PDorr3
08-12-2005, 11:54 AM
People at CAG called atlus and they confirmed that there was a very limited re-release of these games.

It kinda sucks because just one day earlier atlus denied haiving any knowledge of these "reprints" of rhapsody and persona, bastards x_x

PDorr3
08-12-2005, 11:54 AM
People at CAG called atlus and they confirmed that there was a very limited re-release of these games.

It kinda sucks because just one day earlier atlus denied haiving any knowledge of these "reprints" of rhapsody and persona, bastards x_x

sisko
08-12-2005, 12:01 PM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

BUT all new PSX games did have the sticker.

The operative word is did. This is a reprint, not an original run.

It doesn't have to have the sticker to be new and factory sealed (current PS2 releases prove this). No fraud here.

sisko
08-12-2005, 12:01 PM
Well, if they don't have the white seal, they're not factory sealed and I'll be having a word with them. Tis fraud.

By today's standard, it is factory sealed. All recent brand new PS2 game no longer have the white sticker.

BUT all new PSX games did have the sticker.

The operative word is did. This is a reprint, not an original run.

It doesn't have to have the sticker to be new and factory sealed (current PS2 releases prove this). No fraud here.

rhiohki
08-12-2005, 12:07 PM
Funny indeed. I have both Rhapsody and Persona 2 sealed. ORIGINALLY sealed way back when I first bought it. If this is what people are saying and the re-issue is without a white-seal-sticker, then by collector's viewpoint it's worthless. Persona 2 and Rhapsody will now be referred to as having an initial run and a "second" run, where the second run doesn't have the white-seal as ALL new PSX games should have and prices would be set accordingly. I do not doubt that the prices seen for these new games will drop the value of the first run games simply based on having more supply, however in the long-run I think it will stabalize. This is all coming from a collector's stand-point. From a gamer's prospetive this is great news as these are both spectacular games and should be played.

Just FYI. this is what a Persona 2 FIRST RUN sealed game looks like:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/persona2_sealed.jpg

Oh yeah, I also have the FIRST persona sealed as well:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/persona_sealed.jpg

I didn't take a picture of Rhapsody yet, but will.

Let's hope Konami will do a limited re-issue of Suikoden and Suikoden 2. And while we're at it, let's hope Square-Enix does a limited re-issue of Valkyrie Profile. ;-)

rhiohki
08-12-2005, 12:07 PM
Funny indeed. I have both Rhapsody and Persona 2 sealed. ORIGINALLY sealed way back when I first bought it. If this is what people are saying and the re-issue is without a white-seal-sticker, then by collector's viewpoint it's worthless. Persona 2 and Rhapsody will now be referred to as having an initial run and a "second" run, where the second run doesn't have the white-seal as ALL new PSX games should have and prices would be set accordingly. I do not doubt that the prices seen for these new games will drop the value of the first run games simply based on having more supply, however in the long-run I think it will stabalize. This is all coming from a collector's stand-point. From a gamer's prospetive this is great news as these are both spectacular games and should be played.

Just FYI. this is what a Persona 2 FIRST RUN sealed game looks like:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/persona2_sealed.jpg

Oh yeah, I also have the FIRST persona sealed as well:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/persona_sealed.jpg

I didn't take a picture of Rhapsody yet, but will.

Let's hope Konami will do a limited re-issue of Suikoden and Suikoden 2. And while we're at it, let's hope Square-Enix does a limited re-issue of Valkyrie Profile. ;-)

PapaStu
08-12-2005, 12:21 PM
I HIGHLY DOUBT that this is a re-print. I said it earlier and then it was repeated by Maxlords and Oobgarm. This is more than likely copies that were sent back 'defective' or 'damaged' (realizing that when somethings opened it cant be sold as new by a retailer and unless they have a used system in place they just return the product and thus claim it damaged/defective EVEN when it works.) The music store I worked for did it for years, because when it was returned to us defective thats how we had to ship it back to our home office (and from there it was returned to manufacturer for credit).

EVERY PlayStation game I've EVER seen EVER has been white sealed on top when NEW. IF these have the hard shrinks on them, then they are RESEALS that are coming from Atlus. I think the more important question is what kind of product is this.

You guys arnt thinking here. Atlus has released numerous PS games, WHY would they only choose to re-print these two smaller niche games? Because Ebay values say so? I really doubt it. These are Old stock or returns that have been factory reshrunk and are being sold as new (which more than likely they are) to these resellers. They are selling these as new to you because thats how THEY bought them in the first place. They arnt attempting to take you to the cleaners. They are doing normal business, and are selling games as they are represented to them from the manufacturer AS NEW.

PapaStu
08-12-2005, 12:21 PM
I HIGHLY DOUBT that this is a re-print. I said it earlier and then it was repeated by Maxlords and Oobgarm. This is more than likely copies that were sent back 'defective' or 'damaged' (realizing that when somethings opened it cant be sold as new by a retailer and unless they have a used system in place they just return the product and thus claim it damaged/defective EVEN when it works.) The music store I worked for did it for years, because when it was returned to us defective thats how we had to ship it back to our home office (and from there it was returned to manufacturer for credit).

EVERY PlayStation game I've EVER seen EVER has been white sealed on top when NEW. IF these have the hard shrinks on them, then they are RESEALS that are coming from Atlus. I think the more important question is what kind of product is this.

You guys arnt thinking here. Atlus has released numerous PS games, WHY would they only choose to re-print these two smaller niche games? Because Ebay values say so? I really doubt it. These are Old stock or returns that have been factory reshrunk and are being sold as new (which more than likely they are) to these resellers. They are selling these as new to you because thats how THEY bought them in the first place. They arnt attempting to take you to the cleaners. They are doing normal business, and are selling games as they are represented to them from the manufacturer AS NEW.

maxlords
08-12-2005, 12:42 PM
:deadhorse:

What Papastu said. There's no way Atlus re-pressed these. All I really want to know at this point is, do we KNOW that none of them have the white seal? And if so, what condition are they in when you crack em?

Edit: I was WRONG. I called Atlus to confirm. They HAVE done a ONE time reprinting of both Persona 2 and Rhapsody. All copies are brand spanking new, guaranteed by Atlus. However, they do NOT have the white stickers due to the very very recent trend of not printing the security seals for games, same as with Stella Deus. So they're sort of factory sealed, but not original printings. Aside from the sticker, they will be indistinguishable from original printings.

However, this was a ONE TIME reprint, ONLY for gamequestdirect.com, and those were the ONLY two titles that were reprinted. Atlus stated that they will not be reprinting anything else or printing any more of them.

maxlords
08-12-2005, 12:42 PM
:deadhorse:

What Papastu said. There's no way Atlus re-pressed these. All I really want to know at this point is, do we KNOW that none of them have the white seal? And if so, what condition are they in when you crack em?

Edit: I was WRONG. I called Atlus to confirm. They HAVE done a ONE time reprinting of both Persona 2 and Rhapsody. All copies are brand spanking new, guaranteed by Atlus. However, they do NOT have the white stickers due to the very very recent trend of not printing the security seals for games, same as with Stella Deus. So they're sort of factory sealed, but not original printings. Aside from the sticker, they will be indistinguishable from original printings.

However, this was a ONE TIME reprint, ONLY for gamequestdirect.com, and those were the ONLY two titles that were reprinted. Atlus stated that they will not be reprinting anything else or printing any more of them.

Lemmy Kilmister
08-12-2005, 12:49 PM
do we KNOW that none of them have the white seal? And if so, what condition are they in when you crack em?


None of them have the white seal on top. There's numerous pictures over at Cheapassgamer proving that.

Lemmy Kilmister
08-12-2005, 12:49 PM
do we KNOW that none of them have the white seal? And if so, what condition are they in when you crack em?


None of them have the white seal on top. There's numerous pictures over at Cheapassgamer proving that.