View Full Version : No CGE2k6... Don't Wait 'til Next Year!
digitalpress
08-11-2005, 07:21 PM
It's all explained on the CGE home page, here:
http://www.cgexpo.com
Phosphor Dot Fossils
08-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Jeez, Joe, I'm the kiss of death for this thing. I come one year, and then it moves away from Vegas. I come a couple of years later, and now this!
It's all my fault! ;)
Seriously, I can understand completely - this is the same sort of thing that kept me from attending last year. So at least CGE and I are now more or less synchronizing our schedules.
See ya in a little over a week!
DreamTR
08-11-2005, 08:13 PM
Someone needs to step up to the plate and have one in 2006 in its place temporarily!
Phosphor Dot Fossils
08-11-2005, 08:27 PM
Hmmmm. Not really trying to turn it into an argument, but I'd say that there are plenty of other shows around the country that need everyone's support, and a lot of those are annual, smaller, and barely breaking even if they're breaking even at all. It could be that alternating years for CGE could be the best thing for everyone - gives John, Sean and Joe time to recharge their batteries, gives the rest of us time to sample some of the other offerings out there. :)
GrandAmChandler
08-11-2005, 08:29 PM
Holy crap, I am soooo glad I decided on going this year!
-Chris
Flack
08-11-2005, 10:16 PM
Someone needs to step up to the plate and have one in 2006 in its place temporarily!
My backyard, be there bitches.
Flack
08-11-2005, 10:16 PM
Someone needs to step up to the plate and have one in 2006 in its place temporarily!
My backyard, be there bitches.
mcgrail0007@netzero.net
08-11-2005, 10:25 PM
Joe,
I always wanted to go to one of your shows but I haven't been able to. Sorry to hear that there won't be a show next year but I can understand. Maybe I will be able to make it to the 10th anniversary show.
mcgrail0007@netzero.net
08-11-2005, 10:25 PM
Joe,
I always wanted to go to one of your shows but I haven't been able to. Sorry to hear that there won't be a show next year but I can understand. Maybe I will be able to make it to the 10th anniversary show.
Doh... that sucks, but I understand... Maybe I'll check out California Extreme next year... everyone tells me that I'm missing a great show there, so that sounds like a good excuse to check it out.
DogP
Doh... that sucks, but I understand... Maybe I'll check out California Extreme next year... everyone tells me that I'm missing a great show there, so that sounds like a good excuse to check it out.
DogP
punkoffgirl
08-12-2005, 12:11 AM
Well! I guess I don't have to worry about not being able to afford to attend next year, then! :)
punkoffgirl
08-12-2005, 12:11 AM
Well! I guess I don't have to worry about not being able to afford to attend next year, then! :)
It's all explained on the CGE home page, here:
http://www.cgexpo.com
too late -_-...
gavv
It's all explained on the CGE home page, here:
http://www.cgexpo.com
too late -_-...
gavv
Hmmmm. Not really trying to turn it into an argument, but I'd say that there are plenty of other shows around the country that need everyone's support, and a lot of those are annual, smaller, and barely breaking even if they're breaking even at all. It could be that alternating years for CGE could be the best thing for everyone - gives John, Sean and Joe time to recharge their batteries, gives the rest of us time to sample some of the other offerings out there. :)
not to diss any of the other shows, but CGE's the only one that can get the guests which make it an interesting show for me.
gavv
Hmmmm. Not really trying to turn it into an argument, but I'd say that there are plenty of other shows around the country that need everyone's support, and a lot of those are annual, smaller, and barely breaking even if they're breaking even at all. It could be that alternating years for CGE could be the best thing for everyone - gives John, Sean and Joe time to recharge their batteries, gives the rest of us time to sample some of the other offerings out there. :)
not to diss any of the other shows, but CGE's the only one that can get the guests which make it an interesting show for me.
gavv
MarioAllStar2600
08-12-2005, 10:59 AM
:( I am not happy about this, but I understand. It's gunna be tough not to have a CGE to look foward to in August. I never thought I would see CGE take a year off. Hmm, now I need another show to go to.... E3 here I come.
MarioAllStar2600
08-12-2005, 10:59 AM
:( I am not happy about this, but I understand. It's gunna be tough not to have a CGE to look foward to in August. I never thought I would see CGE take a year off. Hmm, now I need another show to go to.... E3 here I come.
digitalpress
08-12-2005, 11:37 AM
E3 here I come.
You can certainly catch us there - it's like a mini-CGE with a massive carnival atmosphere looming miles around it :)
It doesn't sound like good news but in the long run it's very good news. The show will benefit from it with new ideas, new people (not that we're going away, but we have candidates that can step in and manage certain facets of the show better than we ever could), and "bigger everything".
So let's party like it's 2005!
digitalpress
08-12-2005, 11:37 AM
E3 here I come.
You can certainly catch us there - it's like a mini-CGE with a massive carnival atmosphere looming miles around it :)
It doesn't sound like good news but in the long run it's very good news. The show will benefit from it with new ideas, new people (not that we're going away, but we have candidates that can step in and manage certain facets of the show better than we ever could), and "bigger everything".
So let's party like it's 2005!
Darth Sensei
08-12-2005, 11:52 AM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Darth Sensei
08-12-2005, 11:52 AM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
digitalpress
08-12-2005, 11:57 AM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry, we only made the decision yesterday.
digitalpress
08-12-2005, 11:57 AM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry, we only made the decision yesterday.
Darth Sensei
08-12-2005, 12:17 PM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry, we only made the decision yesterday.
That wasn't meant as a derisive comment, I just wish I'd have made plans to attend a couple of weeks ago.
Darth Sensei
08-12-2005, 12:17 PM
I really wish you would've mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry, we only made the decision yesterday.
That wasn't meant as a derisive comment, I just wish I'd have made plans to attend a couple of weeks ago.
dojosky
08-12-2005, 01:59 PM
Dang it will miss the CGE next year but you guys have families and NEEDs to be taken care of thats understandable :D maybe will check out other shows who knows ... anyways see ya all at this year's show !!! have a safe trip everyone !
dojosky
08-12-2005, 01:59 PM
Dang it will miss the CGE next year but you guys have families and NEEDs to be taken care of thats understandable :D maybe will check out other shows who knows ... anyways see ya all at this year's show !!! have a safe trip everyone !
RetroYoungen
08-12-2005, 02:57 PM
Well damn. I haven't been able to attend any other shows, no matter how much I really wanted to (I would love to check out the Philly Classic) because they were just too far away for me. This one kept getting closer and closer to my house, I half expected it to be held in my front lawn soon enough!
But hey, maybe all the money I usually save up could be used for other things... World Series of Poker, a new used car, new systems... college...
But I'm already looking forward to the 10 year anniversary!
RetroYoungen
08-12-2005, 02:57 PM
Well damn. I haven't been able to attend any other shows, no matter how much I really wanted to (I would love to check out the Philly Classic) because they were just too far away for me. This one kept getting closer and closer to my house, I half expected it to be held in my front lawn soon enough!
But hey, maybe all the money I usually save up could be used for other things... World Series of Poker, a new used car, new systems... college...
But I'm already looking forward to the 10 year anniversary!
DEBRO
08-12-2005, 04:57 PM
It's all explained on the CGE home page, here:
http://www.cgexpo.com
:(
I've only been to one CGE and I had a blast. Now I guess I'll look forward to the 10 year anniversary. With taking a year off I'm sure this is going to be a massive event.
DEBRO
08-12-2005, 04:57 PM
It's all explained on the CGE home page, here:
http://www.cgexpo.com
:(
I've only been to one CGE and I had a blast. Now I guess I'll look forward to the 10 year anniversary. With taking a year off I'm sure this is going to be a massive event.
Drexel923
08-12-2005, 07:13 PM
Sorry to hear this, but it will only make the 10th Anniversary that much better.
I actually think the idea of a show every other year wouldn't be that bad. It would give everyone the much needed time to recharge, and give more time to plan new and interesting things.
Drexel923
08-12-2005, 07:13 PM
Sorry to hear this, but it will only make the 10th Anniversary that much better.
I actually think the idea of a show every other year wouldn't be that bad. It would give everyone the much needed time to recharge, and give more time to plan new and interesting things.
D-Lite
08-18-2005, 03:39 PM
So Joe, where is the 10th anniversary one going to be? Likely location I guess since 2 years away is a while....
engboy
08-18-2005, 09:50 PM
Hey classicgaming.com is reporting that this is the show's last year:
"This is also the 2nd and final location change for CGE, which seems to be suffering from shrinking attendance by attendees and vendors/displays. The show is closing down so the organizers can "focus" on the E3 retrogaming sideshow."
Phosphor Dot Fossils
08-18-2005, 10:26 PM
Looks like someone reported their facts wrong. <shrug>
Sniderman
08-19-2005, 06:47 AM
Hey classicgaming.com is reporting that this is the show's last year:
"This is also the 2nd and final location change for CGE, which seems to be suffering from shrinking attendance by attendees and vendors/displays. The show is closing down so the organizers can "focus" on the E3 retrogaming sideshow."
Meh., It was written by "Retro Rogue" who is famous for getting shit wrong on that site. You should've seen the commotion that asshat created with his opinions on the homebrewing scene a few years back.
I was pissed until I saw who wrote it. Now I understand. He's a clueless idiot with a microphone. I see them on the streetcorners all the time. Harmless, loud, and always incorrect.
Mr.FoodMonster
08-21-2005, 11:34 AM
Well, it looks like I'll be saving up for 2007.
You know what? I'm going to start planning to go to CGE 2007 NOW. That way there is no way I can miss it. Hold me to that.
Mayhem
08-23-2005, 09:07 AM
So that means I finally get to meet you Keir? ;)
Flack
08-23-2005, 09:08 AM
You know what? I'm going to start planning to go to CGE 2007 NOW. That way there is no way I can miss it. Hold me to that.
You and me both.
goatdan
08-23-2005, 11:41 AM
I would like to toss in just a few cents here...
First, I'm really sorry to see CGE go. As one of the organizers for the Midwest Gaming Classic over the past years, I totally understand what it is like to have to organize everything -- it is super expensive, super time consuming, and people who attend don't realize what goes into it. It is truly a labor of love, and it has been fun to watch.
Secondly, in a bit of defense of Marty, while his post on CG.com wasn't written as well as it could have been, I think he just read into the news report a little too far. I thought that CGE would only be back one time when I read it too, and while I don't know about the attendance at all, perhaps he just assumed that was the ultimate reason. On the MGC organizer boards (of which he has helped with), after the announcement when another organizer said that the abscene of CGE would help the show by giving us more attendees and vendors, he posted:
I don't really see any of the other shows as "competition". CGE, PC, OKGE, etc. are all in different parts of the country, different months, and different ideas of how they want their show to be. If anything, having more shows helps promote interest in video games and shows in general.
I'd say most of the no's I got in the past for vendors/exhibitors were because of our proximity to E3 at the time.
I just think that it was a poorly written news posting for the site that simply wasn't worded well at all. I don't think it was Marty attempting to do anything sinister -- he's just very busy right now (he's getting married next month and moving) so I think it just was a rushed post to keep up with the news.
Finally, I think that it will be really interesting to see what happens with the current "retro" gaming shows that are out there over the next three years. It seems like the shows are getting harder to organize, and it seems that less people are willing to travel for them. The VG Expo this past weekend seemed to be extremely sparse in attendance, and even I know that even Pinball Expo, which is the longest running pinball gathering at 21 years, has been having to figure out how to better organize their event. The display that has been run in E3 might just be the best way to get word out about classic gaming, and I know that has really gone off very, very well.
What does it all hold in the future? I don't know.... but if you want to keep the legacy alive, offer the organizers a hand -- it's a HUGE help. If you feel you don't have the time to help at all, just make sure you try to attend whatever you can. Even small shows can be a blast -- you get to stop and talk with people that you might not otherwise ever meet. So don't skip any show that you can get to because you feel you'll be "hurting your favorite show" or you "won't be happy with the selection." Just get up, go out and enjoy the show for what it is.
Good luck on CGE's 10th. With any luck, I'll actually be able to make that one!
punkoffgirl
08-23-2005, 12:08 PM
Don't be sorry to see CGE go, they're only taking a year off :)
goatdan
08-24-2005, 12:12 AM
First, I'm really sorry to see CGE go.
:roll:
Why are you rolling your eyes at me? I *am* sorry to see the event go. I was really impressed by everything about it. We tried to model part of how the MGC was set up based on it, and I have had multiple conversations with Joe where we traded ideas on things.
The organizers of CGE are one of the very few out there that will actually attempt to help other shows grow. That same thing cannot be said for most of the other large shows. CGE has been the only event that I've actually seriously looked into trying to attend since Jagfest. I don't attend events because of the stuff I can buy -- my collecting is so limited that most of what I am looking for can't be found at shows -- but because of who I can talk with. CGE, even with over 1000 in attendance HAD that comradery. Other larger shows lose it. Hell, a BIG part of the reason there was no MGC this year was because I felt we lost the comradery that CGE has been able to maintain, and we are working on inserting that back into the show.
Yes, I am defending Marty a little bit. I know him personally, and like I said he is in the very tough spot of basically running that site by himself while trying to work and plan for moving and a wedding. Because of that, I would definitely cut him some slack. On top of that, I know for a fact that he isn't trying to cut down the show because the prescene of CGE helped the MGC.
If that's your reason that you should roll your eyes at me, then so be it. There is a TON of stuff that goes on behind the scenes of each and every show that goes on, and I am happy to know that Joe is always willing to help me, and I have extended the same offer in the past for him. He is the ONLY person that I have spoken with at length about the Midwest Gaming Classic 2006 outside of our message boards where we are trying to organize everything.
For a person who is so demanding of others to retract their statements and look at their words before the post something, I think you should think about the fact that maybe you don't know the whole story either.
I wasn't and still am not defending what was posted, but I will cut Marty some slack for not having the time to properly research his information when he needs to worry about doing five million different things. That's all.
I'm sorry to have gone off on this tirade thanks to one smiley, but it really pisses me off that you think that you are so perfect as to know what is going on with everything, and that you can pass judgement onto me. It's the pot calling the kettle black, and it doesn't help the gaming community at all.
Sniderman
08-24-2005, 06:44 AM
First, I'm really sorry to see CGE go.
:roll:
Why are you rolling your eyes at me?
Let me step in. The reason for the eye-roll is that CGE is not "going." You make it sound like they're packing up shop permanently. They are taking one year off and will be back in 2007. "I'm really sorry to see CGE taking a year off" might've been a bit more appropriate rather than kind of repeating the doom-n-gloom tone of Retro Rogue's "CGE is going away forever due to poor attendance" post.
I believe that's what the eye-roll was for.
goatdan
08-24-2005, 12:21 PM
Let me step in. The reason for the eye-roll is that CGE is not "going." You make it sound like they're packing up shop permanently. They are taking one year off and will be back in 2007. "I'm really sorry to see CGE taking a year off" might've been a bit more appropriate rather than kind of repeating the doom-n-gloom tone of Retro Rogue's "CGE is going away forever due to poor attendance" post.
I believe that's what the eye-roll was for.
If that's what the eye roll is for, I apologize for the long thread above. I understand what you are saying, but the fact remains that there won't be a CGE in 2006, and so while it may be returning, it is "going away," if only for a year.
And even if that is the case, I am still sorry to see it "go" from a yearly event to a biyearly event. CGE has been the only gaming event that I feel has been very solid every year -- you knew what it was, what it would be like and could plan for it if you wanted to year after year. No other event, even PhillyClassic with their renamings and changes in time of the year, have come close to being as reliable as CGE.
I'm not "doom 'n glooming" it forever, but it is sad to see that there won't be a show next year. That's what I meant by that comment, nothing more.
Sorry if the text on the CGE site is not clear. I'll get with Joe to see if we can write something that clarifies the situation.
Hope this helps....
CGE is not "going away" nor are we changinging to a "bi-yearly event". All we ever said is that we're taking a year off and coming back stronger than ever for our 10th anniversary show in 2007 (yes, we DO count World of Atari).
We simply need a bit of a break and time to implement some of the grand things we have planned for CGE 2007.
Thanks in advance for everyone's support of what we do and our next show.
John
Dan Iacovelli
08-24-2005, 05:45 PM
I was lucky enough to attend 2 CGE's (CGE2k and 2k2).
and I enjoyed watching the webcam from the show from 2003- 2004(why wasn't there any for this year)
and I do understand why they are taking year off in 2k6.
it is not easy putting on a show, Iknow this from doing VGS
and most of the work was done by myself(next year I am going have help(hopefully,otherwise I might have to just stop doing the shows)
hopefully I can return to CGE one of these days(right now I can't say, since the place where I work is only paying me small ammount of money with no contract(people who know me know what I do).
Lothars
08-26-2005, 01:08 AM
You know what? I'm going to start planning to go to CGE 2007 NOW. That way there is no way I can miss it. Hold me to that.
You and me both.
Count me in to,
I will start saving now for I can go to CGE 2007
I guarentee that I will be there as well.
Raedon
08-27-2005, 12:37 PM
well then.. see you all in 2007! I think 2k6 will be my year to see Japan.
DHG Hunter
09-04-2005, 07:59 PM
I wasn't and still am not defending what was posted, but I will cut Marty some slack for not having the time to properly research his information when he needs to worry about doing five million different things. That's all.
Sorry, but that's no excuse for sloppy journalism. We all have a "million" things to do. If he was that pressed for time, and that unclear about CGE's statement, then he should have either put a link to the announcement, or repeat it verbatim. Or simply hold off putting anything online
Hehe, marriage isn't a "million things" to do in the world... It's probably one of the most important and most stressful things in your entire life. It isn't whether or not you should drink your coffee black or with cream in the morning. ;) Also, Stonic, you're saying that you aren't passing judgment, yet you're saying that what's going on in his life or whatever isn't an excuse for his story... Sounds like passing judgment to me.
IMHO, the story by Marty Goldberg isn't my cup of black coffee, but I think you're also shooting the messenger and not the ones that were spreading this stuff in the first place - and that wasn't M.G. A few vendors and show goers were the ones that were posting on various message boards and chats that the CGE was light on attendance this year, and that it might have been a reason for no '06 based on pre-orders or whatever.
I personally get a chance to see the CGE booth every year at the E3, and honestly it's one of the only reasons I've bothered to check out the Kentia Hall these last two years because they have done a nice job getting classic systems and arcades together down there. There's some mis-information out there, but so what? I'd like to think that judging from what I scan through at their booth every year, the folks that attend the real show aren't going to be swayed away from '07 show based on a few rumors or news posts. I think the people here are enough evidence of that.
Later.
Kid Ice
09-05-2005, 07:32 PM
I wasn't and still am not defending what was posted, but I will cut Marty some slack for not having the time to properly research his information when he needs to worry about doing five million different things. That's all.
Sorry, but that's no excuse for sloppy journalism. We all have a "million" things to do. If he was that pressed for time, and that unclear about CGE's statement, then he should have either put a link to the announcement, or repeat it verbatim. Or simply hold off putting anything online
Hehe, marriage isn't a "million things" to do in the world... It's probably one of the most important and most stressful things in your entire life. It isn't whether or not you should drink your coffee black or with cream in the morning. ;) Also, Stonic, you're saying that you aren't passing judgment, yet you're saying that what's going on in his life or whatever isn't an excuse for his story... Sounds like passing judgment to me.
IMHO, the story by Marty Goldberg isn't my cup of black coffee, but I think you're also shooting the messenger and not the ones that were spreading this stuff in the first place - and that wasn't M.G. A few vendors and show goers were the ones that were posting on various message boards and chats that the CGE was light on attendance this year, and that it might have been a reason for no '06 based on pre-orders or whatever.
I personally get a chance to see the CGE booth every year at the E3, and honestly it's one of the only reasons I've bothered to check out the Kentia Hall these last two years because they have done a nice job getting classic systems and arcades together down there. There's some mis-information out there, but so what? I'd like to think that judging from what I scan through at their booth every year, the folks that attend the real show aren't going to be swayed away from '07 show based on a few rumors or news posts. I think the people here are enough evidence of that.
Later.
So there's the TROLL opinion. Thanks!
DHG Hunter
09-07-2005, 01:09 AM
As for the rest of your post, it's clear you haven't been following the thread that closely. Not to "pass judgement" on anyone, but Kid might be onto something here...
:) Not trying to start a flame or anything. Of course I'm just a blue ghost, not a level 10 Pac Man... ;)
Later.