Original Biohazard(Resident Evil) for Nintendo DS!

[MarkMan]

YES. Even though it doesn't look that pretty, this is a DS game that I am excited about! Looks like they even included a FPS view!!!

Wooo!

http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yjhaha123/nds1.jpg

http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yjhaha123/nds2.jpg

[joeuser]

Really hope they will improve the graphics a little bit. This looks kinda ugly. Even if it is a 1:1 port. Wondering how they will implement the touchscreen into this. Looking forward for RE:DS :)

[THATinkjar]

I can't get the links to work. Anyone else suffering a similiar problem?

[JJNova]

Really hope they will improve the graphics a little bit. This looks kinda ugly. Even if it is a 1:1 port. Wondering how they will implement the touchscreen into this. Looking forward for RE:DS :)

If you look at the screenshots, there is one where you have to wipe the blood off the camera to see what's happening.

[njiska]

*drools*

Oh god that's fuckin' awsome. I can't wait to play it. Sure the graphics are ugly, but hey it's not like the original Bio Hazard was beautiful.

*drools again*

Thank you Capcom.

[THATinkjar]

Hey, they work! And boy, does that look sublime! Put me down on pre-order, baby. Nice work, Capcom!

[Jumpman Jr.]

YES. Even though it doesn't look that pretty, this is a DS game that I am excited about! Looks like they even included a FPS view!!!

Wooo!

http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yjhaha123/nds1.jpg

http://myhome.hanafos.com/~yjhaha123/nds2.jpg

When I read your post, I was thinking to myself "common, the graphics can't be that bad."
Then I went and clicked on the link. I must say, they are that bad. Still (from what I can see/make out) it looks like a pretty cool game to be on the DS.

[le geek]

I'm strangely looking forward to this... LOL

Cheers,
Ben

[grayrobertos]

Is it just me or do the backgrounds not look pre-rendered? Also you need to allow for the screenshots being scalled up.

[DoctorAwesome]

Wow, those graphics are bad.

[Gamereviewgod]

Is it just me or do the backgrounds not look pre-rendered? .

That's exactly what I was thinking. If they're not, that would explain why the models look so bad, but since they seem to be using the same camera views, it would sort of defeat the purpose of making them real time. Weird.

[Nez]

Looks like you maight have controll of your knife with the touch screen. Wich would rock to slash zombies with a swipe of your stylus.

[GrayFox]

This just looks friggen AWESOME.

Holy crap, I love the DS so much now. There is absolutely no need for the PSP, other than emulation and mostly crappy PS2 ports.

[Gunstar_Hero UK]

Oh wow, I remember hearing about this a while back but then I read elsewhere that Capcom claimed the rumours to be bullshit and they werent remaking RE for DS.

But now seeing these I guess the rumours were true. Fantastic. Im really looking forward to it. After play Resi 4, I fell in love with the series but, I still found the older games unplayable dues to crappy controls. So hopefully they'll sort the controls out and I can finally enjoy the original Resident Evil.

First Shenmue III and now this, what a great day of announcements..

Thanks for the images MarkMan,

Joe. :)

[JSN]

Yet another game to add to my "must have" list... The DS is fast becoming one of my favorite systems. I love how they have implemented a subtitle that features DS; Biohazard: Deadly Silence.

Losing the pre-rendered background may drop some of the game's pretty... but you gain the first person POV. To me, a fair trade for a game I've played many times elsewhere. I'll choose a notch lower in graphics for new game play anytime.

[Muscelli]

looks interesting..

Markman are u from systemwars?

[Mitch_Naz]

Looks pretty damn good. It also looks like the Nintendo DS is getting its first "M" rated game ?

Great things are coming to the DS, looks like I may need to give this game a try.

[SegaAges]

That game looks awesome. Now I NEED a DS. And for the graphics, well... I own Resident Evil 2 for game.com, so the graphics are really good compared to the other portable re game i own.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Holy crap...that is bitchin'... :eek 2: I didnt know it could...but it just did...and do I see a 1st person view?? wow....

[davepesc]

Really hope they will improve the graphics a little bit. This looks kinda ugly. Even if it is a 1:1 port. Wondering how they will implement the touchscreen into this. Looking forward for RE:DS :)

If you look at the screenshots, there is one where you have to wipe the blood off the camera to see what's happening.

Great, another good use for the touchscreen :roll:

[petewhitley]

Holy crap, I love the DS so much now. There is absolutely no need for the PSP, other than emulation and mostly crappy PS2 ports.

Let's not start a flame-war here, but it's somewhat absurd that you mention "crappy PS2 ports" in a topic dealing with what some might consider a "crappy PS1 port". Given the choice, I'll take the crappy next-gen ports myself. x_x

[MegaDrive20XX]

Holy crap, I love the DS so much now. There is absolutely no need for the PSP, other than emulation and mostly crappy PS2 ports.

Let's not start a flame-war here, but it's somewhat absurd that you mention "crappy PS2 ports" in a topic dealing with what some might consider a "crappy PS1 port". Given the choice, I'll take the crappy next-gen ports myself. x_x

ooooo Gray started a flame war! shame on you! I'm tellin Mr. SuperIntendo Chalmers!

[Crush Crawfish]

Looks pretty cool to me. The graphics really don't bother me too much, and I'm assuming this is a somewhat early build, so They'll probably look at least somewhat better upon release.

Anyways, like Gunstar Hero said, I really hope they fix the controls. I love RE4, but I hated the other games in the series due to the...shall we say awkward controls.

My attempt to play the original RE went something like this

Me: "Go forth Jill, and smite that Zombie with your pistol of Justice!"

Jill proceeds to rotate around in a circle, and get caught on a dresser or something.

Zombie: "BLOOOOGARBHORSH!!!!!!!"

Game: "YOU ARE DEAD."

Me: :bawling: @_@

....yeah, so maybe I just suck. LOL But still, I'm hoping they'll implement a RE4-esque control scheme.

[Garry Silljo]

I'm confused. Everyone is freaking out and getting excited for a game probably 99% of them already own on 1 or more systems. I know the story, .... too well, there is nothing to discover here except for a few touch screen gimmicks. I want something new. A DS Resident Evil would excite me very much, if it wasn't the same one I had already experienced too many times already. Also I see no need for PSP bashing, as I'm sure it could handle the port just as well or better minus the touchscreen apps.

[Blanka789]

Badass! I love my DS! Hopefully when the revolution controller comes out it will be something significant like the DS touchscreen. RE shoulld look a little better once it nears completion.

[GrayFox]

haha, I started a flame-war? Cool, I didn't even try, I was just telling the truth.

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games. I'm just being honest.

IF you think that the PSP is getting better software than the DS, than have fun. Because I'll be sitting back with actual enjoyable titles like Advance Wars, Nanostray, Kirby, Meteos, Nintendogs, Feel the Magic, Super Mario 64, Polarium, and more to come.

Anyways, I'm done. I still think this game looks great. First-Person knife combat with the stylus, hell yeah.

[MegaDrive20XX]

haha, I started a flame-war? Cool, I didn't even try, I was just telling the truth.

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games. I'm just being honest.

IF you think that the PSP is getting better software than the DS, than have fun. Because I'll be sitting back with actual enjoyable titles like Advance Wars, Nanostray, Kirby, Meteos, Nintendogs, Feel the Magic, Super Mario 64, Polarium, and more to come.

Anyways, I'm done. I still think this game looks great. First-Person knife combat with the stylus, hell yeah.

GrayFox for El Presidente! :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: Look at my marache' band! aye aye aye!!

[petewhitley]

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games.

Oh really? Care to direct the curious to exactly which issue of OPM that admission appeared in? ... (waits) ... Didn't think so. BS walks.

[davepesc]

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games.

Oh really? Care to direct the curious to exactly which issue of OPM that admission appeared in? ... (waits) ... Didn't think so. BS walks.

Actually, I think I saw that too. It was last month, I think.

[kainemaxwell]

Ah, very cool to see this on the DS!

[hbkprm]

i want it and it better come the states soon.

[GrayFox]

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games.

Oh really? Care to direct the curious to exactly which issue of OPM that admission appeared in? ... (waits) ... Didn't think so. BS walks.

Actually, I think I saw that too. It was last month, I think.

lol, I love when people step up to the plate.

I don't lie about things like this, and I have no reason to. These are video games. Video Games. I'm not gonna lie about this stuff.

Check out the issue where they talk about the PSP's current situation. They even say its hit a pretty solid bump. Chris Slate from PSM has also talked about the PSP and its drought of software on his blog, forum, and in the mag.

God damnit, I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just stating that you'd have to be blind to say that the PSP has better software. That's a lie if you say it does.

Have you played Advance Wars? Holy crap!

[petewhitley]

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games.

Oh really? Care to direct the curious to exactly which issue of OPM that admission appeared in? ... (waits) ... Didn't think so. BS walks.

Check out the issue where they talk about the PSP's current situation. They even say its hit a pretty solid bump. Chris Slate from PSM has also talked about the PSP and its drought of software on his blog, forum, and in the mag.

God damnit, I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just stating that you'd have to be blind to say that the PSP has better software. That's a lie if you say it does.

An article in PSM discussing a software drought is a far cry from OPM stating that "the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games." That's a biased quote out of your mouth, and one that no reputable gaming magazine would claim. Your post was BS, plain and simple. Let's drop it, and try not to claim that opinions are steadfast facts. IMO, the PSP has the better software library. That's not a lie, it's an opinion (shared by many, I might add). And my vision is 20/20 thank you.
Resident Evil DS is obviously as much of a port as anything on the PSP. Hopefully the gameplay tweaks will make up for the remarkably unfaithful graphical quality, which in my opinion threatens to distract from the chilling ambience of the original title.

[MarkMan]

From the-magicbox.com :

Capcom announced Biohazard: Deadly Silence (Resident Evil: Deadly Silence) for Nintendo DS, to celebration the 10th anniversary of the series. This is a remake of the original Biohazard. The DS version will have full 3D graphics instead of pre-rendered background like in the original version; and the DS version supports the touch screen and voice recognition, you can attack the enemy with the dagger that is controlled by the stylus; certain puzzles must be solved with the stylus; and sometimes you must wipe out the blood spilled on the screen with the stylus; both Jill and Chris are confirmed as playable characters in the game.


COOL!

[JJNova]

Even the official Playstation magazine has admitted that the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games.

Oh really? Care to direct the curious to exactly which issue of OPM that admission appeared in? ... (waits) ... Didn't think so. BS walks.

Check out the issue where they talk about the PSP's current situation. They even say its hit a pretty solid bump. Chris Slate from PSM has also talked about the PSP and its drought of software on his blog, forum, and in the mag.

God damnit, I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just stating that you'd have to be blind to say that the PSP has better software. That's a lie if you say it does.

An article in PSM discussing a software drought is a far cry from OPM stating that "the PSP has gotten nothing more than lame PS2 ports, and very few worthwhile games." That's a biased quote out of your mouth, and one that no reputable gaming magazine would claim. Your post was BS, plain and simple. Let's drop it, and try not to claim that opinions are steadfast facts. IMO, the PSP has the better software library. That's not a lie, it's an opinion (shared by many, I might add). And my vision is 20/20 thank you.
Resident Evil DS is obviously as much of a port as anything on the PSP. Hopefully the gameplay tweaks will make up for the remarkably unfaithful graphical quality, which in my opinion threatens to distract from the chilling ambience of the original title.

You so funny. Here's your link. It's in the August version. True, his wording was different, but that's probably because he didn't want to use the same wording that was used in the original article, because it would have made your head a-splode.

[petewhitley]

You so funny. Here's your link. It's in the August version. True, his wording was different, but that's probably because he didn't want to use the same wording that was used in the original article, because it would have made your head a-splode.

He didn't use the same wording because he (the original poster) wanted to trump up how superior the DS is, because, you know, everyone says so. It was a BS post no matter how you spin it. Stop already.

[WiseSalesman]

@petewhitley: I'm just honestly curious what you think these good titles are that the PSP supposedly has. I've been trying to decide which of the "big two" to buy for awhile now, and I had almost completely decided on the DS, based on software library alone. I mean, am i just grossly uninformed? Besides Lumines and possibly Metal Gear Acid, what A-list titles does the PSP really have? And current games please, nothing that may or may not come out.

[Nesmaster]

We've got the biggest news this month kiddies: according to the British gaming magazine NGC, Capcom is working on a remake of the original Resident Evil for the DS. The only details we have right now are that the game will use the same camera perspective as Resident Evil 4 and the touchscreen will be used for attacks.

Because this news is breaking, new details will most likely emerge soon. Check back here for the latest.

Source: gamefront.de

cool, but those links don't work. i wanted to see :P

[DJBoy416]

I know the game won`t be out until sometime next year,but it`s games like this that make me glad I decided to ask for a DS this Christmas:)

[Mitch_Naz]

@petewhitley: I'm just honestly curious what you think these good titles are that the PSP supposedly has. I've been trying to decide which of the "big two" to buy for awhile now, and I had almost completely decided on the DS, based on software library alone. I mean, am i just grossly uninformed? Besides Lumines and possibly Metal Gear Acid, what A-list titles does the PSP really have? And current games please, nothing that may or may not come out.

I would like to second that, I dont know why people are denying the fact that the PSP is lacking as of late only keeping up with the recent added web features which is good but isn't this a game system at heart ? - I also must say the DS was lacking almost right at birth, but its finally looking up and I think it will stay that way for quite sometime with Wifi connection and games like Super mario bros and metroid out next year. Could this just be a lack of games this season and will kick off with a bang like the DS ? I certainly hope so - because its good for buisness and for nintendo to take notice and give us more !!!

You dont have to be blind to see this, accept it and wait until the PSP is ready for another round (probably hoilday) but these cool added features wont save it.

[petewhitley]

@petewhitley: I'm just honestly curious what you think these good titles are that the PSP supposedly has. I've been trying to decide which of the "big two" to buy for awhile now, and I had almost completely decided on the DS, based on software library alone. I mean, am i just grossly uninformed? Besides Lumines and possibly Metal Gear Acid, what A-list titles does the PSP really have? And current games please, nothing that may or may not come out.

That's a great question. Background info: I purchased a PSP, my girl purchased a DS. So in a sense I have both, although I put my money (if there is such a thing) into the PSP.
Firstly, I'm not into gimmick games. I see the stylus as a gimmick, and not a particularly ergonomic one at that. Wario Ware, Yoshi Touch & Go, etc. hold no appeal to me beyond a minute or two of "so that's how that works."
I'm also partial to "adult" games (again, if there is such a thing). Animal Crossing and Nintendogs are too cutsey for my tastes, and I can't imagine playing them for one minute if my girl gets either one.
So for a gamer who 1) isn't into the stylus gimmick and 2) isn't into "kawaii" games, the PSP has more to offer (IMO). It's more powerful and has a library that slants more towards adults.
Games I'm digging on the PSP: Lumines, Wipeout Pure, THUG 2 Remix, Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer. Metal Gear Acid wasn't my thing. But as you can see, for the most part these are graphically intense games that offer gameplay better suited to concentrated sessions than "pick-up-and-play". And don't anyone tell me that handheld games need to be "pick-up-and-play", there are a variety of situations handhelds are useful in. Does the DS have some of these kind of games? Sure, in fact it's got it's own version of Ridge Racer. But the PSP powers them better, so I'm sticking with the PSP alternatives.
The two systems have already distinguished themselves as reaching for different audiences. I fit in one. Someone else might fit in another. But I can't believe it when some jackass comes along and says "Teh DS has way better games". Maybe for you dickus. Not I. (not directed at you WiseSalesman).

[goatdan]

Pete,

Of those games that you mentioned (excluding Lumines, so Wipeout Pure, THUG 2 Remix, Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Dynasty Warriors and Ridge Racer), do any of them build beyond their console roots very well? What I guess I'm asking is if you had the opportunity to purchase only one version of the game -- PS2 or PSP -- are there features added to the PSP games that make them superior beyond just their portability?

And I'm not saying this as any sort of a rip on the PSP. I'm just curious about it. Personally, I think that the Tony Hawk series lends itself perfectly to a portable system like the PSP, but I'm curious about everything else.

While I'm asking, do you use yours for movies? Seems like those have been selling really, really well, and I'm curious on who is buying and why... so if you are, can you shed some light on that?

By the way, I do think this is a related topic. I'm curious if the PSP versions of games that originated as console games (although not being exact ports, of course) need to add a lot to them to get people to like them, or if they just are pretty much straight PS2 ports. I mean, at this point Resident Evil has been ported to a million systems it seems, and if it doesn't add too much except perhaps worse graphics and "remove the blood with the stylus" gameplay O_O , I don't see it being that big of a hit... but if the gaming public is loving the same sort of things done on the PSP (the updating and redoing to make portable) old games, then it might be a great hit.

Personally, I'm not interested in it. I need to play through the 3 or so versions I already own first.

[WiseSalesman]

Ah, now I see the problem. As a rule I don't like racing games, and I don't like sports games, although there are exceptions. So that tosses out Wipeout Pure, Ridge Racer, THUG 2, and Hot Shots Golf. Dynasty Warriors seems like a "played one, played 'em all" series. I've heard wonderful things about Lumines, but it's got its analog, Meteos on the DS. Metal Gear Acid seems interesting, but I'm not big on card combat, so I think the DS is still the better choice for me.

For the record, the games I'm interested in on the DS are Meteos, Advance Wars: Dual Strike and possibly Mario 64. Other than that, most of the other games already out that I want for the DS are GBA games, and there are a lot of them. To be honest, I don't really like the touch screen either, having played a few games with it. But, I need a new handheld, and when buying a system I always go with the one that has the games I think I'll enjoy the most. Plus, the price difference doesn't hurt either.

I do like the other stuff you can do with the PSP, though, and it having a media slot. That's one thing that was almost as major selling point for me.

[petewhitley]

Pete,

Of those games that you mentioned (excluding Lumines, so Wipeout Pure, THUG 2 Remix, Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Dynasty Warriors and Ridge Racer), do any of them build beyond their console roots very well? What I guess I'm asking is if you had the opportunity to purchase only one version of the game -- PS2 or PSP -- are there features added to the PSP games that make them superior beyond just their portability? ...

While I'm asking, do you use yours for movies? Seems like those have been selling really, really well, and I'm curious on who is buying and why... so if you are, can you shed some light on that?

That's a good question too Dan. I would say Wipeout Pure was a return to form for the series, but the other titles are IMO games you'd probably want on one system or the other. To the developers credit, I believe all of the other titles you and I mentioned have the random couple of extra features (ala Super Mario 64 DS), that make them somewhat glorified ports. I'm happy with that, as I don't have those titles on my PS2. I would argue with anyone who claims these "lame PS2 ports" give the DS superiority, as the DS lays claim to it's share of "lame N64 ports". I personally prefer the PS2 to N64, so I guess when it comes to ports I'm spending my time with the appropriate handheld.

And a big, big selling point for me was the multimedia capabilities of the PSP. And I use them all the time, every day. I'm already chomping at the bit for a price drop on the 2gig MS ProDuo. I have an iPod, but I still use my PSP for music, I encode/watch movies/tv, read comics on it, and even just use it to transfer certain types of files from work to home. I suppose I might use the web browser someday, but how hard is it to find a computer with internet access? All in all, it's one of the most satisfying gaming-related purchases I've ever had.

[Daltone]

I'm confused. Everyone is freaking out and getting excited for a game probably 99% of them already own on 1 or more systems. I know the story, .... too well, there is nothing to discover here except for a few touch screen gimmicks. I want something new. A DS Resident Evil would excite me very much, if it wasn't the same one I had already experienced too many times already. Also I see no need for PSP bashing, as I'm sure it could handle the port just as well or better minus the touchscreen apps.

I've got to agree. If I hadn't played the game in its various incarnations on the PS1 (both of them), Saturn and Gamecube I'd probably snap this up as it came out. As it is, well, I can't help but think that maybe an entirely new game would be nice.

I liked the idea of the zombies on a boat from the GBC game (though I have to say that I never played it) and I'd much rather the game were something along those lines rather than another trawl through the mansion. Ok, so technically it may take more time and effort and money to make but at least it'd be fresher than this.

Saying all that I'll probably end up buying it once it gets cheap because I do rather like the game and it'd be fun to get zombie headshots with the stylus. If it's only the knife you get to use with the touch screen (for some bizzare reason) I hope that it gets beefed up a little bit. In the original I was left with a distinct feeling of "d'ya call that a knife?"

[Daltone]

Double post.

[goatdan]

That's a good question too Dan. I would say Wipeout Pure was a return to form for the series, but the other titles are IMO games you'd probably want on one system or the other. To the developers credit, I believe all of the other titles you and I mentioned have the random couple of extra features (ala Super Mario 64 DS), that make them somewhat glorified ports.

I'm just curious if you could say a little about what those are? I know about Super Mario 64's extras, but they have no bearing on me wanting to get the game, and I doubt most DS owners cared that you had those. Is it mostly mini-games on these other games? Or is it a way to pick up and play a game momentarily instead of having to devote a period of time to it?


I'm happy with that, as I don't have those titles on my PS2. I would argue with anyone who claims these "lame PS2 ports" give the DS superiority, as the DS lays claim to it's share of "lame N64 ports". I personally prefer the PS2 to N64, so I guess when it comes to ports I'm spending my time with the appropriate handheld.

I feel that the DS has a lot more in the way of original games than the PSP because of the touch screen and the fact that developers feel that they need to use it on every game.

I also feel that the fact that the PSP has a lot less original games gives it the upper hand. When a person walks up to the DS and sees a game like Pac Pix or Feel the Magic, most people aren't going to understand what the heck is going on, and will therefore pass it up. Walking up to a PSP and seeing a game with the same name as what they play on the PS2 (or at least have seen played on the PS2) gives the PSP an instantly recognizable gaming line-up. I think that this is a big reason why the US market has supported it so well so far -- you know what you are getting into when you hear the name of the game. The DS doesn't do that -- it takes you time to sit down and actually figure out what is going on in many of the games, which lowers the impulse purchases for the DS, in my opinion.

In the Japanese market, almost the exact opposite is true due to their differing gaming likes and dislikes, which is why the DS has continued to do so well over there in my opinion.

RE seems to be an attempt to position Nintendo better in the US market, and future recognizable Nintendo properties (Mario Kart, Metroid) will also help, although making Metroid into a pinball game could confuse a lot of potential customers even further...


And a big, big selling point for me was the multimedia capabilities of the PSP. And I use them all the time, every day. ....

About the movies though, have you actually purchased any of them? I'm curious about any additional features / highlights that the PSP discs have that would make them better than a DVD. Basically, I want someone to explain to me why those things have been selling almost as good as the games!

[GrayFox]

@petewhitley: I'm just honestly curious what you think these good titles are that the PSP supposedly has. I've been trying to decide which of the "big two" to buy for awhile now, and I had almost completely decided on the DS, based on software library alone. I mean, am i just grossly uninformed? Besides Lumines and possibly Metal Gear Acid, what A-list titles does the PSP really have? And current games please, nothing that may or may not come out.

That's a great question. Background info: I purchased a PSP, my girl purchased a DS. So in a sense I have both, although I put my money (if there is such a thing) into the PSP.
Firstly, I'm not into gimmick games. I see the stylus as a gimmick, and not a particularly ergonomic one at that. Wario Ware, Yoshi Touch & Go, etc. hold no appeal to me beyond a minute or two of "so that's how that works."
I'm also partial to "adult" games (again, if there is such a thing). Animal Crossing and Nintendogs are too cutsey for my tastes, and I can't imagine playing them for one minute if my girl gets either one.
So for a gamer who 1) isn't into the stylus gimmick and 2) isn't into "kawaii" games, the PSP has more to offer (IMO). It's more powerful and has a library that slants more towards adults.
Games I'm digging on the PSP: Lumines, Wipeout Pure, THUG 2 Remix, Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer. Metal Gear Acid wasn't my thing. But as you can see, for the most part these are graphically intense games that offer gameplay better suited to concentrated sessions than "pick-up-and-play". And don't anyone tell me that handheld games need to be "pick-up-and-play", there are a variety of situations handhelds are useful in. Does the DS have some of these kind of games? Sure, in fact it's got it's own version of Ridge Racer. But the PSP powers them better, so I'm sticking with the PSP alternatives.
The two systems have already distinguished themselves as reaching for different audiences. I fit in one. Someone else might fit in another. But I can't believe it when some jackass comes along and says "the DS has way better games". Maybe for you dickus. Not I. (not directed at you WiseSalesman).

:)

Why are you people getting so angry about this stuff, heh, this is absurd! Why are you taking offense to me, not liking the PSP library? Is it that big of a deal? I guess I just prefer 2-D, more innovative/different games, so I like the DS. You like PS2 style games on the go, cool. Huzzah? Excellent. *Bill and Ted guitar riff*

About the quote, first off, I never quoted OPM, but I think my 'line' was fine. Granted yes, it wasn't exactly on, but as you can see from that article, even people heavily involved with the PSP are kinda disappointed right now. That's the point I got across.

Now, for the love of Moses, can we stop the insults. I don't think that's necessary. Can we make up? Hugs? No kisses. Even steven?

Excellent, crisis avoided. Drinks on me.

[Mitch_Naz]

quote from pete : the PSP has more to offer (IMO). It's more powerful and has a library that slants more towards adults. Games I'm digging on the PSP: Lumines, Wipeout Pure, THUG 2 Remix, Hot Shots Golf Open Tee, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer. Metal Gear Acid wasn't my thing. But as you can see, for the most part these are graphically intense games that offer gameplay better suited to concentrated sessions than "pick-up-and-play".
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Arn't most of those games rated E for everyone ? maybe Dynasty Warriors and THUG 2 Remix with a Teen rating.. It seems you feel these games are more suited for adults because of its graphical horsepower ?? I dont see how two racing games, golf and a puzzle game come off that way.

Perhaps you should see through graphics and just play a game no matter how kiddy or 2D it may look. I know this is the digital age, but arnt we all gamers at heart who grow up with atari and nintendo ? why must graphics underline gameplay.

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quote from goatdan: I feel that the DS has a lot more in the way of original games than the PSP because of the touch screen and the fact that developers feel that they need to use it on every game.

I also feel that the fact that the PSP has a lot less original games gives it the upper hand. When a person walks up to the DS and sees a game like Pac Pix or Feel the Magic, most people aren't going to understand what the heck is going on, and will therefore pass it up. Walking up to a PSP and seeing a game with the same name as what they play on the PS2 (or at least have seen played on the PS2) gives the PSP an instantly recognizable gaming line-up.
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Very good point, and its a shame.

[petewhitley]

I'm just curious if you could say a little about what those are? I know about Super Mario 64's extras, but they have no bearing on me wanting to get the game, and I doubt most DS owners cared that you had those. Is it mostly mini-games on these other games? Or is it a way to pick up and play a game momentarily instead of having to devote a period of time to it?

For example, THUG 2 includes a couple of levels not found in the PS2 version. Ridge Racer (from what I understand, having only played Rage Racer) is a sort-of "best of" compilation of tracks from the series. I haven't necessarily found that PSP games make much of an effort to lend themselves to momentary play, but maybe I just get engrossed. Dynasty Warriors was definitely adjusted to make the missions shorter from what I've heard (again, I don't own it on the PS2 or Xbox, but I spent some time with that one set in Japan, whatever it was called). Wipeout Pure is just hands-down on par with the best of the series however, and save for some downloadable content is completely original. The downloadable content feature has been well-supported and a real treat with that title. I think most of the PS2 to PSP "ports" have some actual quality differences, as opposed to just mini-games and whatnot.



About the movies though, have you actually purchased any of them? I'm curious about any additional features / highlights that the PSP discs have that would make them better than a DVD. Basically, I want someone to explain to me why those things have been selling almost as good as the games!

I haven't purchased any UMDs, and I'm shocked that they're taking off here and not in Japan. The visual quality of UMDs is greater than that of what the PSP allows to be read off a MSDuo, but in all honesty a DVD-rip encoded at high quality on a 1gig MSDuo looks great. I would imagine that alot of folks don't want to shell out $100 for a nice-sized stick and go through the trouble of ripping and encoding their own DVDs. I made the decision early on to invest in a 1gig MSDuo and go that route (I've already encoded twenty-some movies, so it's paid for itself in that regard). I don't need another movie collection.

[Jibbajaba]

O_O

What?!?!? A perfectly good thread has been turned into a system-war arguement involving GoatDan and petewhitley, and will therefore inevitably be locked?

I don't think I've ever seen *THAT* happen before...

Guys, it's really getting old.

Chris

[petewhitley]

Aren't most of those games rated E for everyone ? maybe Dynasty Warriors and THUG 2 Remix with a Teen rating.. It seems you feel these games are more suited for adults because of its graphical horsepower ?? I dont see how two racing games, golf and a puzzle game come off that way.

Perhaps you should see through graphics and just play a game no matter how kiddy or 2D it may look. I know this is the digital age, but arnt we all gamers at heart who grow up with atari and nintendo ? why must graphics underline gameplay.

It's not about graphical quality. It's about the depth and feel of the gameplay. The time I've spent playing our DS haven't engrossed me in the gameplay. They "play like handheld titles" if you know what I mean. I want a portable PS2 with games of comparable depth. Nintendo is focusing more on "pick up and play" in it's marketing of the DS and in particular first-party titles. That's not really my bag, but I understand why some people might want games that can be digested in 5 to 10 minute increments. I grew up on Atari, and still play it. But at the same time I appreciate the added depth of the new generation of gaming and want that in a handheld. (I know the DS has some deeper games, but as a general rule I've observed these qualities in the two handhelds).

[petewhitley]

O_O

What?!?!? A perfectly good thread has been turned into a system-war arguement involving GoatDan and petewhitley, and will therefore inevitably be locked?

I don't think I've ever seen *THAT* happen before...

Guys, it's really getting old.

Chris

Have you read our posts? I don't think we've argued or disagreed about anything ... Look beyond the posters and read the posts. x_x

[Jibbajaba]

Have you read our posts? I don't think we've agrued or disagreed about anything ... Look beyond the posters and read the posts. x_x

[Jr Mod = Jibbajaba]Pete, have you read the title of the thread? You guys are having a "discussion" (again) about the PSP vs the DS. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You guys have a track record of doing this sort of thing. All I am saying is that if you guys insist in doing this again, find an appropriate thread to do it in, since this thread is SUPPOSED to be about RE for the DS.[/Jr Mod]

Chris

[Mitch_Naz]

Aren't most of those games rated E for everyone ? maybe Dynasty Warriors and THUG 2 Remix with a Teen rating.. It seems you feel these games are more suited for adults because of its graphical horsepower ?? I dont see how two racing games, golf and a puzzle game come off that way.

Perhaps you should see through graphics and just play a game no matter how kiddy or 2D it may look. I know this is the digital age, but arnt we all gamers at heart who grow up with atari and nintendo ? why must graphics underline gameplay.

It's not about graphical quality. It's about the depth and feel of the gameplay. The time I've spent playing our DS haven't engrossed me in the gameplay. They "play like handheld titles" if you know what I mean. I want a portable PS2 with games of comparable depth. Nintendo is focusing more on "pick up and play" in it's marketing of the DS and in particular first-party titles. That's not really my bag, but I understand why some people might want games that can be digested in 5 to 10 minute increments. I grew up on Atari, and still play it. But at the same time I appreciate the added depth of the new generation of gaming and want that in a handheld. (I know the DS has some deeper games, but as a general rule I've observed these qualities in the two handhelds).

Then the PSP fits your bill perfectly, and also enjoy all its added features. Im more into pick up and play when its comes to a portable atleast - Innovation and originality are also a big PLUS.

[Sothy]

GAME GEAR PWNS U

[MegaDrive20XX]

GAME GEAR PWNS U

:guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: Ghoules y Espiritus Marache' Band! Strikes again Aye Aye Aye!!

El Presidente' Sothy speaks truth senor!!

[Mayhem]

On the DS vs PSP part, most people I know want the pickup and play aspect, because they are HANDHELDS! A lot of folks are just playing PS2 games at home, and not on the move. This is why I believe the DS is doing better. Folks in general may not want to play handheld games in long stints at a time. Some do. Many do not.

As for RE DS, I may get it if it offers new stuff over the previous incarnations of the game so far.

[goatdan]

O_O

What?!?!? A perfectly good thread has been turned into a system-war arguement involving GoatDan and petewhitley, and will therefore inevitably be locked?

I don't think I've ever seen *THAT* happen before...

Guys, it's really getting old.

Last I checked, I wasn't arguing anything, but merely asking some questions about features on the PSP games that had been mentioned in the thread and about movie capability. I do think this is related to this thread, because as I mentioned the PSP seems to be doing great with slightly upgraded or reworked titles, and Resident Evil: DS will also be one of those. It seems to me like an attempt by Nintendo to take what is working for the PSP and bring it to the DS.

If your idea of a "perfectly good thread" is a bunch of people saying, "RE is going to be awesome! Sweet!" and then replies of "Man the graphics suck!" then I should stop posting here altogether. I'm more interested in conversations that can involve things like, "Will RE: DS give the DS a huge boost in sales?" and "Will people want to play RE - a game that has been done and redone three times before this - for a fourth time?"

Those are the questions that I'm interested in, and the fact that a lot of people here other than me seem interested in talking about those questions too. If I just want: "RE is going to RULE!" "YOU SUCK< ITS GONNA SUX> LOOK AT THE GRAPIX!" I'll head to the GameFAQ boards. Until then, I agree with Pete -- read the posts, don't just look at the posters and think that we're fighting.

Okay, and I've been meaning to say this for a while, so I might as well put the thread "back on track..."

Dude! What the hell is up with those graphics! Capcom better fix those, or a lot of people who get RE:DS are going to tell other people the DS sucks.

[GrayFox]

What I'm wondering though, are the environments going to be fully 3-D? Because, how could they do the first-person mode stuff without it being fully 3-D.

Hmm, this is interesting.

[goatdan]

What I'm wondering though, are the environments going to be fully 3-D? Because, how could they do the first-person mode stuff without it being fully 3-D.

Hmm, this is interesting.

Somewhere, they said that they would be fully rendered 3D environments.

It makes me wonder how close the game will actually be to the original RE.

[THATinkjar]

If your idea of a "perfectly good thread" is a bunch of people saying, "RE is going to be awesome! Sweet!" and then replies of "Man the graphics suck!" then I should stop posting here altogether. I'm more interested in conversations that can involve things like, "Will RE: DS give the DS a huge boost in sales?" and "Will people want to play RE - a game that has been done and redone three times before this - for a fourth time?"

Amen. That is exactly how I feel sometimes. Together we stand, united we fall. *holds goatdan's hand*

[GrayFox]

What I'm wondering though, are the environments going to be fully 3-D? Because, how could they do the first-person mode stuff without it being fully 3-D.

Hmm, this is interesting.

Somewhere, they said that they would be fully rendered 3D environments.

It makes me wonder how close the game will actually be to the original RE.

Alright, then it makes a bit more sense as to why the graphics aren't a lot better than the PS1 version. But, very good question. Is it going to have elements of REmake in it? That'd be helluva interesting.

[Jibbajaba]

If your idea of a "perfectly good thread" is a bunch of people saying, "RE is going to be awesome! Sweet!" and then replies of "Man the graphics suck!" then I should stop posting here altogether. I'm more interested in conversations that can involve things like, "Will RE: DS give the DS a huge boost in sales?" and "Will people want to play RE - a game that has been done and redone three times before this - for a fourth time?"

Straw man tactic. :shameful: I've being doing this "internet thing" for awhile, man. I recognize the games people play.

I shouldn't have singled you and pete out, especially when it was GrayFox who got the party started, but honestly, as someone who spends a LOT of time reading the forums, you two have a bit of a track record, and after re-reading the forums, I stand by my earlier comments, save for the fact that I should have mentioned GrayFox as the primary offender.

PSP vs. DS discussion = :deadhorse:

Chris

[WiseSalesman]

Conversation is a living medium. Things are bound to evolve and get on to a different track as different subject are brought up in the course of conversation. If you want a dialogue that aligns entirely to one topic, never varying at all, you're not looking for discussions, but dissertations. A forum is not the place to find that.

Also, can you tell me why you're complaining about the thread being "ruined"? I didn't even notice your presence in the thread up until this point, and by the time we got started, the RE:DS discussion was more or less over already. Was there something else you wanted to discuss about that game that we are now preventing you from doing, because we've switched topics? If so, let me know, and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you, right here, in this thread. And while you're doing that, please look up the definition of a straw man argument, because no one in this entire thread has used one as far as I can tell.

[Jibbajaba]

Conversation is a living medium. Things are bound to evolve and get on to a different track as different subject are brought up in the course of conversation. If you want a dialogue that aligns entirely to one topic, never varying at all, you're not looking for discussions, but dissertations. A forum is not the place to find that.

Also, can you tell me why you're complaining about the thread being "ruined"? I didn't even notice your presence in the thread up until this point, and by the time we got started, the RE:DS discussion was more or less over already. Was there something else you wanted to discuss about that game that we are now preventing you from doing, because we've switched topics? If so, let me know, and I would be more than happy to discuss it with you, right here, in this thread. And while you're doing that, please look up the definition of a straw man argument, because no one in this entire thread has used one as far as I can tell.

:roll: Wow. OK.


A Straw Man Argument is a statement a person makes if they want to more easily attack an opposing position.


You guys are having a "discussion" (again) about the PSP vs the DS. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You guys have a track record of doing this sort of thing. All I am saying is that if you guys insist in doing this again, find an appropriate thread to do it in, since this thread is SUPPOSED to be about RE for the DS.

Gets turned into:


If your idea of a "perfectly good thread" is a bunch of people saying, "RE is going to be awesome! Sweet!" and then replies of "Man the graphics suck!" then I should stop posting here altogether.

...

If I just want: "RE is going to RULE!" "YOU SUCK< ITS GONNA SUX> LOOK AT THE GRAPIX!" I'll head to the GameFAQ boards.


I'm done with this thread.

Chris

[WiseSalesman]

I'm done with this thread.

...and there was much rejoicing.

[davepesc]

I've being doing this "internet thing" for awhile, man. I recognize the games people play.

My forum posting prowess>>>>>>>joo!

Way to flex those e-muscles LOL

[JJNova]

I'm done with this thread.

...and there was much rejoicing.

Come back Jibba! This thread was almost making sense with your presence.

Oh yeah, and RE rulz,
PSP droolz,
All up in your base,
Killin on your d00dz.

[GrayFox]

If your idea of a "perfectly good thread" is a bunch of people saying, "RE is going to be awesome! Sweet!" and then replies of "Man the graphics suck!" then I should stop posting here altogether. I'm more interested in conversations that can involve things like, "Will RE: DS give the DS a huge boost in sales?" and "Will people want to play RE - a game that has been done and redone three times before this - for a fourth time?"

Straw man tactic. :shameful: I've being doing this "internet thing" for awhile, man. I recognize the games people play.

I shouldn't have singled you and pete out, especially when it was GrayFox who got the party started, but honestly, as someone who spends a LOT of time reading the forums, you two have a bit of a track record, and after re-reading the forums, I stand by my earlier comments, save for the fact that I should have mentioned GrayFox as the primary offender.

PSP vs. DS discussion = :deadhorse:


Chris

lol, This is absurd. I've been doing this 'internet thing' for awhile too. What, 12, or 13 years? Who cares.

Let's all throw this on me now, so other people are happy. :)

This all started, because I said I hate the current PSP software. If that's asking for a flame war, than you people need to grow up. This is a place to talk, and debate about games. Not bitch and create drama.

[goatdan]

[goatdan reads the first 19 posts in this thread]

13 are "this will rule" posts
5 are "the graphics suck" posts
1 is "the link doesn't work"

Post 20 is the first one that Pete made. So I'm sorry if you see that as a "Straw Man Argument," but you said that we (and you cited Pete specifically) were ruining a perfectly good thread. What was going on in it that was so good?

I don't mind short little statements like this (and I make them myself sometimes too) but I fail to see how expanding the conversation is determental.

[scooterb23]

What was going on in it that was so good?

No name calling....no pointless flaming...the posts at least had a passing relation to the topic of the thread...

And because I feel like it, I'm going to try and swing the thread back on topic *RADICAL CONCEPT* this may be the first Resident Evil game that actually interests me, because the touch screen interaction may make the game interesting. I don't know if it will be good, but I'm at least interested, which is more than I can say for any other RE game ever.

[Daria]

What was going on in it that was so good?

No name calling....no pointless flaming...the posts at least had a passing relation to the topic of the thread...

And because I feel like it, I'm going to try and swing the thread back on topic *RADICAL CONCEPT* this may be the first Resident Evil game that actually interests me, because the touch screen interaction may make the game interesting. I don't know if it will be good, but I'm at least interested, which is more than I can say for any other RE game ever.

I thought the blood wiping effect was a neat idea for a survial horror game. Also I wonder how the first person mode will work, I wonder if it'll be on rails like House of the Dead prechance?

[Nick]

I scroll through all three pages of this topic and still haven't found a proper link to see the pictures. Everyone can go on and on about their love for different systems but no one can post a good link to the pics!!? Please a working link?! ahah :D

[scooterb23]

Good point Nick :)

I don't have the link either...would like to see the pics.

Daria - I imagine it will work in typical FPS fashion where you control the movement, but I could be wrong :)