FFIII Vs. FFVI

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Do you call it Final Fantasy III, or do you call it Final Fantasy VI? This question is for the record, so make your answer count! LOL

[Necromutant]

It says Final Fantasy III on my SNES cart so that is what I call it ;) but when talking with someone that uses Japanese numbering I call it 6...

[Jumpman Jr.]

I say Final Fantasy 3 as well. I don't care what its called in Japan.

[WiseSalesman]

I'd prefer to call them Final Fantasy 2 and Final Fantasy 3, as I had been calling them that for years since its release. However, as the games slowly make their way over there, I have switched over to the japanese numbering system simply for the sake of clarity.

[Blackjax]

I've mostly gone over to calling them Final Fantasy 4 and Final Fantasy 6 most of the time. If the conversation is only about the Super Nintendo, usually I'll flip back to 2 and 3.

I voted for 6 in this one tho, since the other, skipped games in the series are slowly but surely coming out over here, its easier just to use the japanese numbers... but it really does depend on the conversation...

[MattyXB]

Hard question. At the beginning as I have not know much about it I have call them II and III. But now I think its correct to call them IV and VI. Its better that noone can mix it with the NES games. X_x

And after they rereleased on the PlayStation they called IV and VI. So no problem anymore here.

[PDorr3]

I do not own a FFIII cart, only the FFVI on psx so thats what it gets called :)

[s1lence]

It depends on the context. If I'm refering to snes its 3 , ps 1 it becomes 6. I still think the numbering system that square used was retarded.

[eightbitonline]

i called the SNES ones "two" and "three" until i played jp final fantasy II (via dawn of souls). now that i've played the real "two" it feels awkward to call the SNES ones by their american titles, since that's not consistent with the games i've personally played.

before i'd played FFII though i couldn't have given a shit what anyone called them.

[Mr. Smashy]

I generally say "Final Fantasy (number) for the (system)". Sometimes, I'll bring up the region of the release that I'm talking about if I think it's necessary to be perfectly clear.

[Slimedog]

I say 4 and 6 when I'm talking about the game, but 2 and 3 when I'm refering specifically to the SNES cart. Like if I were discussing boss strategies, I would call it 6, but I'd never say I just picked up a loose FF 6 at the flea market.

[NeoZeedeater]

I usually say "III" but in some contexts I use "VI". In general I use a game's domestic name unless I'm specifically talking about the import version.

[sealboy6]

I, like a bunch of you guys, first played the game on Final Fantasy Anthology (one of my favorites), so I usually call it FFVI. Around my friend who has the orig., I call it FFIII, though.

[badinsults]

It depends who I am talking to. Generally, FF3.

[chrisbid]

nerdy revisionists.... :|

the cart, the box, the instructions, and the title screen all say FFII and FFIII. if you want to call it by their japanese name (if youre not japanese, why pretend that you are?) then call the games FFIVj and FFVIj. If you want to get super technical, FFII is not FFIVj, its FFIVj-easy version. On the PSX rerelease of FFIV, the translation was redone and squenix used the more difficult version of the game.

[WiseSalesman]

nerdy revisionists.... :|

the cart, the box, the instructions, and the title screen all say FFII and FFIII. if you want to call it by their japanese name (if youre not japanese, why pretend that you are?) then call the games FFIVj and FFVIj. If you want to get super technical, FFII is not FFIVj, its FFIVj-easy version. On the PSX rerelease of FFIV, the translation was redone and squenix used the more difficult version of the game.

I'm not "pretending I'm japanese". If I wanted to do that, I'd say the title in japanese, and the number in japanese. But saying FFIVj just sounds so incredibly stupid, and now that FFII has been released over here on Dawn of Souls and FFIII is on it's way, I'd rather avoid confusion.

[DDCecil]

If you want to get super technical, FFII is not FFIVj, its FFIVj-easy version.

I'm going to get very technical and say our FFII is not the same as FFIV EasyType. EasyType has many different things that our FFII doesn't have:

- Alternate Zeromus graphic
- Save point before Zeromus
- Pillars you can go under on the moon
- The ribbon protects from Fire/Ice/Lit

The question at hand though, when talking with my family members, it's FFII and III. When talking on the internet, I'll usually say FFIV or VI, to avoid confusion.

[Jorpho]

Is the US PSX version of FFIV also a derivative of Easytype?

[Dji]

nerdy revisionists.... :|

the cart, the box, the instructions, and the title screen all say FFII and FFIII. if you want to call it by their japanese name (if youre not japanese, why pretend that you are?) then call the games FFIVj and FFVIj. If you want to get super technical, FFII is not FFIVj, its FFIVj-easy version. On the PSX rerelease of FFIV, the translation was redone and squenix used the more difficult version of the game.

Whatever. It's not pretending to be Japanese. Just because Square (the true revisionists in this whole deal) only released random installments in the series over here back then doesn't mean that I'll refer to those random numbers instead of the real ones. I used to call them FFII and FFIII when I didn't know better (before the release of FFVII). And since they have been released over here as FFIV and FFVI, on the PS1, that seals the deal. Square rightfully abandoned the old, wrong, random numbering in favor of the real one when FFVII was released, or else it would have been called FFIV. They acknowledged their "mistake" and rectified the situation.

[chrisbid]

I'm not "pretending I'm japanese". If I wanted to do that, I'd say the title in japanese, and the number in japanese.

you dont? thats surprising


But saying FFIVj just sounds so incredibly stupid

i agree, so i call the games by the titles actually written on the game




I'm going to get very technical and say our FFII is not the same as FFIV EasyType. EasyType has many different things that our FFII doesn't have:

- Alternate Zeromus graphic
- Save point before Zeromus
- Pillars you can go under on the moon
- The ribbon protects from Fire/Ice/Lit

thats all well and good, but the point is that FFII (SNES) and FFIV (PSX) are different games, and they are based on different games


The question at hand though, when talking with my family members, it's FFII and III. When talking on the internet, I'll usually say FFIV or VI, to avoid confusion.

family = not nerds
internet = nerds



Just because Square (the true revisionists in this whole deal)

agreed, they are the original lamers


(Square) only released random installments in the series over here back then doesn't mean that I'll refer to those random numbers instead of the real ones.

the releases in the US were hardly random. FFI didnt reach american shores until the summer of 1990. It wasnt a monster hit, (no RPGs were in the US) so it wasnt really worth it to any NES publisher to release these on the NES after its heyday. FFV simply sucked, and Square did us a favor not releasing it here.


I used to call them FFII and FFIII when I didn't know better

you read the box correctly


Square rightfully abandoned the old, wrong, random numbering in favor of the real one

not "real", japanese

squenix is also changing the name of Dragon Warrior to the Japanese name of Dragon Quest. so all the net nerds will be appeased and all of the NES games will be referred to as Dragon Quest now.

[Jorpho]

FFV simply sucked, and Square did us a favor not releasing it here.

Wha?! I believe a few years ago the president of Square said it was his favorite game in the series! (Don't take my word for it, though.)

I for one find it useful to use the original Japanese games to keep them in perspective relative to the PSX games.

[RetroYoungen]

It's Final Fantasy III, as I don't read or speak Japanese. I honestly can't stand hearing people call it FF VI.

Them: I LOVE FF VI!
Me: Do you read Japanese?
Them: No...
Me: Then you've played FF III.
Them: But it's VI in Japan...
Me: Do you call every game by its Japanese title if the two names are different?
Them: No...
Me: Then why do it here?

It just frusterated the hell out of me, to be perfectly blunt.

[WiseSalesman]

Hey chrisbid! I think my favorite thing about your latest post is how you draw attention away from your own mistakes by pointing out the made-up shortcomings of others! Or maybe it's the way you slide little passive agressive insults in to every reply! I just can't decide, they're both such endearing practices! Good job, buddy! You should have a career in politics any day!

[chrisbid]

but unlike most politicians, when i see something, i take it at face value. i have an SNES cart with a red label that says Final Fantasy II, and a cart with a black label that says Final Fantasy III. I dont call Pac Man, Puck Man, and im not going to change the name of the two FF games based off of some inferiority complex with the japanese.

[WiseSalesman]

Yes, we've got your opinion now. You're a purist. You stick to what you know and don't like to change it. I think we all understand that. Thank you for your contributions to the thread.

[Lothars]

Well I definitly Prefer calling it Final Fantasy III because that's what i've used for so long, but it's all good

but it also depends on who i am talking to about the games.

[mezrabad]

I pronounce it "final fantasy six".

When I say "final fantasy three" I'm referring to the unreleased NES game.

Reading Japanese really has nothing to do with it. It's a way for me to clearly distinguish between the six numbered Final Fantasy games that were released, ON THIS PLANET, before "final fantasy seven". If the person says,"huh", I say, "Oh, it was also called final fantasy III when it came out in the US on the SNES." And then I move on to actually talk about the game, or listen to what the other person says about the game.

The point of having a conversation about a game is really to share your experience and to hear someone else's. If the conversation gets started and then immediately stalls on the nitpicking point about what the game should be called when both parties know exactly which game is being spoken of, then someone is being an asshole. Check to see if it's you!

It's about communicating clearly. Not starting an argument. :roll:

I also say "Clock Tower on the Super Nintendo, the one only released in Japan" to distinguish it from the game with the same name on the PSX. Very few people out in the retail world have a frackin' clue as to what I'm talking about.

[hezeuschrist]

Yes, I say "Final Fantasy IV" and "Final Fantasy VI" because I have some fetish with Japanese culture. I wish my penis were smaller, I wish my hair was straight and black, I wish my eyes were slanted and I REALLY wish I were a math genius. Oh, just for effect I say "so solly!" all the time.

Man, I just don't know where to start. Well, lets work backwards.

RetroYoungen, you're a tool. If I were to say "I LOVE FF II," the first thing out of your mouth would be, "which one?" Instead, the fictitious person in your douchebag scenario clarifies the game for which he holds such ridiculous feelings, and you berate him for it. You should stop making up scenarios like that, they suck.

If I were speaking of FF II proper, as in FINAL FANTASY TWO, THE SECOND GAME IN THE SERIES, what would you say? What would you want that I call that title? Or FF III proper, the one that has yet to see a stateside release? What are these, simply fictitous games that NO ONE THAT ISN'T A JAP IN TRAINING HAS EVER HEARD OF?!

DAMN YOU ASSHOLES FOR CLARIFYING WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF BY USING THE PROPER SUFFIXES FOR EACH TITLE IN THE SERIES! DAMN YOUS ALL TO HELL!!

Now, you go on ahead and pop in your copy of Final Fantasy Anthology, and let me know what the title screen says for the game that was released on the Super Nintendo in the states in the early ninties. I'll let you get back to me, because this is going to prove quite the difficult task for you to get take the stick out of your ass AND remove your foot from your mouth before mustering the courage to have some sort of witty scenario to reply with. A witty scenario that will most definitely suck, and will involve douchebaggery.

chrisbid, I have a game for Playstaiton that contains the titles Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy VI. I have another game on Playstation that contains Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy IV. I use those titles for all 4 of those games BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TITLED.

And why wouldn't I say FFIVj and FFVIj? Because I'm not anywhere as large of a dumbass as you are. When someone says FFIV or FFVI, you know what game they're talking about. There's no confusion, so there's absolutely no reason to clarify that you're speaking of the japanese version, to which there is no difference from the re-released Plasytation versions we recieved in the late nintes.

So to everyone that thinks they're hardcore because you say II and III and think that VII was the worst game ever and anyone who has actually played II and III proper and refers to the game "Final Fantasy IV" as "Final Fantasy IV" and refers to the game "Final Fantasy VI" as "Final Fantasy VI" is a HARDCORE JAPANESE ANIME "lamer," go fornicate yourself with a tire iron. You suck.

EDIT: I know you're all already hard at work on your theatric retorts, but don't take it seriously. I'm bored.

[RetroYoungen]

RetroYoungen, you're a tool. If I were to say "I LOVE FF II," the first thing out of your mouth would be, "which one?" Instead, the fictitious person in your douchebag scenario clarifies the game for which he holds such ridiculous feelings, and you berate him for it. You should stop making up scenarios like that, they suck.

Being annoyed by people saying things like "I LOVE FF VI" makes me a tool? I just don't like it when people say that, it's annoying in my opinion. No, I wouldn't ask if you said that you liked FF II, unless I thought you were a guy who played imports (or downloaded translated ROMs, and I have a few friends who do; so with them, I ask). And I've come across a few people who were the example I gave, so I felt it a legitimate one to give (and with them, I know they didn't know much about gaming, and I wasn't trying to be outright rude, but it rubs me the wrong way).

[Jibbajaba]

Wow Hezeus. I certainly understand your point, but were the personal insults really neccesary? When you lace a post with that kind of stuff, you really detract from the point you were trying to make.

I wouldn't say that I really call them one thing or another. Since I was around when the titles came out for SNES, I guess I would generally refer to those titles as FF II and FF III. I would imagine that if Iwere speaking to a FF aficionado, I would instead say "FF VI". I guess I call then FF II and FF III by those names because that's what I remember them as.

I play a lot of SMB, but I dont call the Lost Levels "Super Mario Bros 2" and I don't call SMB 2 "Super Mario Bros USA". Not exactly the same situation, but close. I just don't see why this is a situation which needs a heated argument. It's just a wierd situation by it's very nature. Because of the way it is, you can't really say "Final Fantasy II" without there being some confusion as to what title is being discussed.

Chris

[Fuyukaze]

When the game orignaly came out, I naturaly asumed it was the direct sequal to FF2. Never knowing that both it and 2 were not the same, I just called them 2 and 3. Now, I perfer to call em what they are. That topic almost threw me off though as I could a sword this was a debate over which was better, 8 or 9. Which would have made it an evil one as I hated both and was more then happy when I finished them.

[Milk]

6.

Unlike Square, I know how to count.

Between going from 3 to 7, and naming one of their games "X-2", I really don't know what to do with these guys.

[hezeuschrist]

Being annoyed by people saying things like "I LOVE FF VI" makes me a tool?

Pretty much. Some people have never played the SNES game, or even owned an SNES. With the younger crowd (now nearing 18) I'd be willing to bet their first experience with the game was as FFVI on FF Anthology. It has absolutely nothing to do with speaking japanese.

If anything, FFIII is the only remaining title that requires knowledge of the language or a translation.

[RetroYoungen]

Well, that's your opinion, and of course you're entitled to it, as am I entitled to mine. It is the Internet after all. All I was saying was that I personally got annoyed by people calling it FF IV or VI instead of II and III. If that makes me a tool, then whatever. It's not worth fighting or insulting over.

[Fuyukaze]

I never even noticed an entire argument going on untill, basicly right after I made my post. What does it matter what they call it? What does it matter which version they first played? Damn it to hell, stop bitching, stop whining, and get back to the important stuff. Playing games and enjoying them. If I call it Final Fantasy 6, what does it matter if it originaly came out over here as Final Fantasy 3? It wouldnt. Seriously, get a grip.

[MegaManFan]

Generally speaking I'd say the hardcore Final Fantasy fans all call it 6, since that's the proper title (and the one it's been given on all releases except US SNES). I know I do.

[drwily008]

Being annoyed by people saying things like "I LOVE FF VI" makes me a tool?

Pretty much. Some people have never played the SNES game, or even owned an SNES. With the younger crowd (now nearing 18) I'd be willing to bet their first experience with the game was as FFVI on FF Anthology. It has absolutely nothing to do with speaking japanese.

If anything, FFIII is the only remaining title that requires knowledge of the language or a translation.

Wow hezeuschrist, at age 17 you have a lot of bottled up anger...I suggest prozac to balance your personality then follow up with a bit of benadryl and cough syrup to help you sleep. By the way, when Final Fantasy 3 came out you were FIVE YEARS OLD! So that does explain the lack of nostalgia for the name...which is fine that's what this thread intended to find out.

ON TOPIC without flames...sorry. I say 3, I bought the game the day it came out with my own money ($79.99 + tax) and have kept my most maxed out levels save on the same cartridge for the pat 11 years. So it is familiarity with the name FF3 and that is why it will always call it that.

I remember calling Square and Nintendo constantly asking when "Final Fantasy Extreme" (the working name for FF5) was finally coming...alas nothing.