Lumines or Meteos?

[Gunstar_Hero UK]

Well, I had a quick check and found that there has not yet been a poll of which Q Entertainment puzzler you prefer. I've seen plenty of posts in other topics about it so, I thought starting a poll would be a good idea.

Before I express my views, I have to say this is NOT a PSP vs DS thread. (although it'll probably turn into one) The Poll is about which game you prefer, not which portable you prefer. We all have a prefered handheld, I know i certainly do, but please keep it to yourself for the moment. So please, lets focus on the games at hand.

Right, anyway, I voted Meteos. Although I loved Lumines, I thought it was fantastic and its my favourite PSP game so far, I feel Meteos has more to offer. More game modes, a lot more litttle features. Juat an overall better gaming experience.

My opinion has only changed over the past few days though. Thats because I had the Japanese version of Meteos and found it very hard to play, so I prefered Lumines. But my US copy of Meteos arrived and now I'm hooked.

So in coclusion, as much as I love Lumines, Meteos just offers me more. So Meteos it is.

What are your thoughts?

Joe. :)

[Amy Rose]

Lumines. Music + puzzler = sexy. This is the title I am buying a PSP for.

[Jasoco]

Lumines. I actually lost most interest in Meteos and actually spent more time playing Zoo Keeper.So my vote is to Lumines. I can pick that one up and play it any time. Just as good as Tetris.

[njiska]

Well i'll be the first to step up to the plate for Meteos. I've played both and while Lumines is damn sexy, and i mean the Rez kind of damn sexy, i'm giving the nod to Meteos for one reason, the touch control. With puzzlers like Meteos (and Zoo Keeper the poor bastards Bejeweled LOL) i have aways wanted something like mouse control. The touch screen gave me just that. I'll admit that some times it's hard to hit the block you want with the stock stylus, but damn it, it's still solid control.

Both games are near flawless in my opinion and both are incredibly entertaining, but my vote goes to Meteos, just because of control. If it wasn't for that i couldn't decide.

[fpstream]

Lumines definetly. Actaully made me think if it challenged Tetris. Still need that 999,999.

[PDorr3]

lumines draws me in, sorta like a trance. Meteos is good but I dont get drawn it, it just relies on solid gameplay while lumines has both solid gameplay and addictive trance mode :)

[njiska]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

[djbeatmongrel]

well i'lll vote and explain why for Meteos. I never played Lumines since i dont have a psp nor do i really care with its current and planned library but i will tell you why i love Meteos. Depth. I have not planned a puzzler the amount of depth Meteos offers. Each planet(stage) is completely different from the others: having their own gravity, speed of propulsion and play area size.

Unlocking a lot of stuff within Meteos is thoughtful proccess. lets say to make/unlock a planet you need 100 more pieces electricity, you have to remember what planets have it and try to shoot up as much electricity into the sky as possible, which will add itself to your current amount of it.

Also i have never played a puzzler that has such a perculiarly epic story and opening movie to prove it. Planets are exploding, meteors are crashing down, and planets' inhabitants are trying to survive the evil planet Meteos' destruction. if that isnt epic for a puzzler i dont know what is.

The varying graphics and sound are also a great touch. each planet really has its own identity to it outside of how they play.

all i have to is if you dont pick it up now make sure you grab it in the future.

[Jibbajaba]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

I'm guessing that more people own DSes than PSPs, for one thing.

Chris

[njiska]

I'm guessing that more people own DSes than PSPs, for one thing.

Chris

No, i know why Meteos is winning the poll. I'm just wondering why there's hardly any support for it posted in the thread.

[slip81]

I'm with Gunstar_Hero. Meteos has more to offer IMO. Though Lumines is still a kickin' game with great music.

[Gamereviewgod]

Meteos has the cool unlockables, but it's easy to exploit.

I prefer Lumines gameplay, and that's what's important.

[Joker T]

Lumines :)

[zmweasel]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

[odyeiop]

I'll have to go with Meteos. It's pretty addictive, and the music is really entertaining. Besides, what's more satisfying than destroying another planet

[studvicious]

or maybe it's because people want to vote without giving a reason why. I know that I do that with 90% of the polls - vote then leave.

And on a side note I voted for Meteos, it's just a great game and the stylus really adds to it as well.

[njiska]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

Nothing wrong with that. Sony is an arrogant company that deserves the hatred it receives. But I would hope that atleast some of us can look past the system and look at the game itself.

[Daniel Thomas]

Hmm. If we were to start harping on every company that was arrogant or made foolish decisions, we'd be spending our whole lives complaining about capitalism. Thank you, but no, I'd much rather play some good videogames.

I don't know why everything always has to be so competitive between different game machines. I wouldn't compare Lumines and Meteos to each other; I'd much rather compare them to the boring-as-hell, cookie-cutter, lifeless console games of today. Why the heck can't anybody else make a real videogame anymore, instead of the latest rendition of The Matrrix performed by puppets?

Small, auteur game studios are rapidly becoming extinct, and with them are flowing so much of the vitality this pop art medium needs. We don't need to be playing one off against the other - especially two games from the same studio. Wouldn't it be much better to praise Q Entertainment for revitilizing the puzzle game?

Lumines and Meteos are both outstanding games. Do whatever you can to get them in as many hands as possible. Get your friends away from the overpriced leftovers - hey, it's Mailbu Stacy with a new hat! - and show them what videogames are supposed to be about.

[njiska]

Hmm. If we were to start harping on every company that was arrogant or made foolish decisions, we'd be spending our whole lives complaining about capitalism. Thank you, but no, I'd much rather play some good videogames.

I don't know why everything always has to be so competitive between different game machines. I wouldn't compare Lumines and Meteos to each other; I'd much rather compare them to the boring-as-hell, cookie-cutter, lifeless console games of today. Why the heck can't anybody else make a real videogame anymore, instead of the latest rendition of The Matrrix performed by puppets?

Small, auteur game studios are rapidly becoming extinct, and with them are flowing so much of the vitality this pop art medium needs. We don't need to be playing one off against the other - especially two games from the same studio. Wouldn't it be much better to praise Q Entertainment for revitilizing the puzzle game?

Lumines and Meteos are both outstanding games. Do whatever you can to get them in as many hands as possible. Get your friends away from the overpriced leftovers - hey, it's Mailbu Stacy with a new hat! - and show them what videogames are supposed to be about.

Get off your soap box. Nobody is trying to start a system feud here and we are all praising Q Entertainment for their excellent work. Nobody is saying anything bad about either game. They're both stellar. This is a thread about personal preference though and there is nothing wrong with that. It's like asking some one if the prefer SMB3 or Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

And the sales and reviews of Meteos and Lumines are showing the pubishers that we do appreciate it.

[zmweasel]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

Nothing wrong with that. Sony is an arrogant company that deserves the hatred it receives. But I would hope that atleast some of us can look past the system and look at the game itself.

Nintendo was as arrogant in its late-'80s heyday as Sony has ever been, and it's at least as deserving of hatred. Its lockout technology and licensing/manufacturing fees fueled the lack of originality in the modern console-game biz, its censorship of game content fueled mainstream opinion that video games are strictly for kids, etc., etc.

But anyhoo. I favor Lumines because its design isn't broken. Meteos apologists claim that random scribbling doesn't work well at higher levels of play, but that it works at all--and it works very well against most CPU and human opponents--is a fatal flaw.

I assume that Meteos (and Nanostray) apologists are DS fans trying to convince themselves that an average/flawed game is a great one, for no other reason than they're rooting for the manufacturer of its host hardware.

-- Z.

[jdc]

I bought Lumines simply because of the raving over it. Everywhere said that it was THE must-have PSP game!! Everyone described it as new Tetris. When I got it home and popped it in, I played it as Tetris and got nowhere. Trade-in fodder for sure.

I always try a game one more time before trading it in, so I sat down and popped Lumines back in. This time I discovered that the game ISN'T like Tetris in any way, shape or form. It's a disservice to describe Lumines as Tetris to someone. Tetris is tired and boring. Lumines is anything but. Needless to say I became hooked and kept the game.

Next time I'm at the game shop I'll get them to fire up Meteos on the DS for me. As of yet I don't own a DS, but later.......?

[Grobyc]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

Nothing wrong with that. Sony is an arrogant company that deserves the hatred it receives. But I would hope that atleast some of us can look past the system and look at the game itself.

Sony has earned the right to be arrogant...

[petewhitley]

well i'lll vote and explain why for Meteos. I never played Lumines since i dont have a psp nor do i really care with its current and planned library but i will tell you why i love Meteos ...

Wow. Thanks for your informed vote against Lumines. Having not played Meteos I'm going to refrain from voting.

[Avenger]

gotta give love to Lumines...my most favorite puzzle game of all time...Meteos got tedious for me but Lumines is so damn sexy...btw my #1 game of all time is Rez...just thought id throw that out there... :)

[punkoffgirl]

I guess I'm a bad person because I don't own either a PSP or a DS.

/me goes directly to hell, doesn't pass go, doesn't collect $200

[goatdan]

I played what was supposedly a clone of Lumines that I downloaded for a long, long time. I was very impressed with it, and thought that it was very fun... but the game wasn't that great in downloaded form. From the little I have seen of the real one, it is balanced better and the music is better.

Having said that, I voted for Meteos. I saw it for a while, and while Lumines really grabbed my attention, ultimately it felt a little too much like a Tetris-style game that I've played before, that while awesome is still the same sort of concept. Meteos on the other hand is a new concept to me and I was really intrigued by it and how it worked. I thought that it was a game that I would be able to play for hours and hours.

Hearing about the random scribbling thing, I kinda wish I would've voted for Lumines. I wouldn't randomly scribble if I was playing the game, but knowing I could pass levels like that ruins a lot of the strategies I had been thinking about. If the game didn't have that problem, it would easily be better. As for now, I voted for it because it left me thinking for just a little while longer...

[njiska]

I played what was supposedly a clone of Lumines that I downloaded for a long, long time. I was very impressed with it, and thought that it was very fun... but the game wasn't that great in downloaded form. From the little I have seen of the real one, it is balanced better and the music is better.

Having said that, I voted for Meteos. I saw it for a while, and while Lumines really grabbed my attention, ultimately it felt a little too much like a Tetris-style game that I've played before, that while awesome is still the same sort of concept. Meteos on the other hand is a new concept to me and I was really intrigued by it and how it worked. I thought that it was a game that I would be able to play for hours and hours.

Hearing about the random scribbling thing, I kinda wish I would've voted for Lumines. I wouldn't randomly scribble if I was playing the game, but knowing I could pass levels like that ruins a lot of the strategies I had been thinking about. If the game didn't have that problem, it would easily be better. As for now, I voted for it because it left me thinking for just a little while longer...

Yeah Dan i just spent an hour scribbling on Meteos and it's only been mildly helpful. It's kind of like clicking a random square in minesweeper, some times it pays off, but most of the time it just gets you killed.

[THATinkjar]

/me goes directly to hell, doesn't pass go, doesn't collect $200

If you had collected that $200, you could pick up a DS :P

[zmweasel]

Yeah Dan i just spent an hour scribbling on Meteos and it's only been mildly helpful. It's kind of like clicking a random square in minesweeper, some times it pays off, but most of the time it just gets you killed.

Really? I'd have to observe your scribbling to see what you're doing or not doing, but I've gone through Star Trip mode at the five-star difficulty level with scribbling, and it certainly doesn't get me killed "most of the time." (For example, I just went into a five-star Star Trip and won three of four matches before stopping.)

My preferred "technique" is to move back and forth on the touch-screen, from the left edge of the level to the right edge and back again, while sweeping the stylus downward. I can also "cheat" by breaking the pattern to scribble on blinking columns, which further improves my win percentage.

-- Z.

[Mr. Smashy]

I have both Lumines and Meteos and though I think they're both great games, I prefer Meteos. Lumines' single-player modes were a little too easy and eventually got a bit annoying having to play for roughly 2 hours in one round to get 999,999 points.

I like Meteos because, for me, it still offers a challenge in the single-player modes. The single-card multiplayer is also an excellent feature. In fact, I liked it so much that when Walmart in Canada was selling them for about $10 each (before taxes), I made sure that any of my DS-owning friends that wanted one ended up getting one. 3 of them took me up on my offer and they all seemed to really enjoy it. I actually paid full price for it on launch day.

Both Lumines and Meteos look and sound good. They also have pretty solid gameplay. I'm guessing that I've unlocked everything in both games (though I have yet to see a few more endings in Meteos). I'd suggest that any fan of puzzle games pick up either of these titles if they have the hardware to play them.

[njiska]

Yeah Dan i just spent an hour scribbling on Meteos and it's only been mildly helpful. It's kind of like clicking a random square in minesweeper, some times it pays off, but most of the time it just gets you killed.

Really? I'd have to observe your scribbling to see what you're doing or not doing, but I've gone through Star Trip mode at the five-star difficulty level with scribbling, and it certainly doesn't get me killed "most of the time." (For example, I just went into a five-star Star Trip and won three of four matches before stopping.)

My preferred "technique" is to move back and forth on the touch-screen, from the left edge of the level to the right edge and back again, while sweeping the stylus downward. I can also "cheat" by breaking the pattern to scribble on blinking columns, which further improves my win percentage.

-- Z.

Mine was angled left to right. Either way the bottom line is that if you scribble, you're only cheating yourself.

[zmweasel]

Either way the bottom line is that if you scribble, you're only cheating yourself.

Actually, the bottom line is that Meteos has a broken gameplay mechanic. Unseen, unplanned chains are constantly triggered even when one tries to play "fair." Scribbling isn't the same as exploiting an obvious bug or glitch, and it's certainly not "cheating." It's taking advantage of flawed game design.

-- Z.

[njiska]

Either way the bottom line is that if you scribble, you're only cheating yourself.

Actually, the bottom line is that Meteos has a broken gameplay mechanic. Unseen, unplanned chains are constantly triggered even when one tries to play "fair." Scribbling isn't the same as exploiting an obvious bug or glitch, and it's certainly not "cheating." It's taking advantage of flawed game design.

-- Z.

Meteos does not have broken gameplay. The fact that you don't see a set you're gonna make is nothing to hold against it. Happens to me all the time in Hexic and Mean Bean Machine.

And i never said scribbling was cheating, i said it was cheating yourself. You could have a great game play experience but if you choose to scribble, the only one who loses out on the fun is you. It's a fair move, but it's not one that allows you to enjoy the experience. If you want to be really picky about the gameplay then play Meteos without using the touch screen, then you won't have to deal with the scribling or random sets.

Arguing about scribbling is just nit-picking.

[Daniel Thomas]

Well, after much consideration and ten hours of gametime on Meteos, here's my take on "scratching" - it's not's that big a deal.

I'm reminded of the way a little kid would walk into the arcade and beat down everyone at Street Fighter 2 by doing nothing more than pounding buttons at random. And yet, it never occured to any of us that the gameplay was flawed. We just learned to play better, so we wouldn't lose to button mashers. And you know what? It worked.

I always listen when Meston has something to say, so I was cautious when he warned against Meteos' scratching. And I do agree that it would be a game-breaking flaw if it was routinely successful against the CPU and friends. But I don' think this is the case.

In an actual game, scratching isn't very effective. You can connect meteos together here and there, but what ultimately happens is too dependant on other factors: which planet you're on, which character you use, who your opponents are and which character they're using.

Most planets require extra steps, in the form of step-jumps, mid-air docks, shields, and various combos, to launch meteos off the playfield. Scratching isn't going to work very well. Believe me, I've tried scratching after my first ass-whuping at the hands of 100 Meteos mode. I still got wiped out in under 30 seconds.

What's remarkable about Meteos is that it's very much the anti-Tetris. You really have to switch your mind into reverse and forget all the established puzzle cliches. It's a lot closer to fighters like Soul Calibur, and fused with those classic abstract shooters like Robotron and Tempest.

Did I mention you can play 4-player deathmatches, and that you can direct your Meteos to specific players? Hoo boy. This is gonna be the next great multiplayer game that makes and breaks friendships.

So you have a game that looks fantastic, offers a rediculous amount of variety, the best unlockable material since Soul Calibur, and deep, complex gameplay. And it's just about the fastest game ever. Damn, this thing just flies. Which means, in my experience, that scratching isn't going to help you very much.

In the end, I suppose the only way to settle the issue once and for all is to let a scratcher play against some players who know the strategies, and let them fight it out. Three guesses where my bets will go.

[njiska]

Bunch of stuff

Very well said. I hadn't even thought about the multiplayer aspect. Meteos MP is fun and it's sinlge card play. That's a major plus in it's favour.

[Daniel Thomas]

Bunch of stuff

Very well said. I hadn't even thought about the multiplayer aspect. Meteos MP is fun and it's sinlge card play. That's a major plus in it's favour.


LOL LOL

That was funny.

I should also point out that Meteos causes the Tetris Effect. You start seeing falling blocks everywhere...hey, if I could move that guy's eyes down to where his nose is, I could launch his whole head!

[zmweasel]

In the end, I suppose the only way to settle the issue once and for all is to let a scratcher play against some players who know the strategies, and let them fight it out. Three guesses where my bets will go.

I'd love to pit my scribbling against another player's strategy. I'll try to enlist the local GameStop's demo DSes in a 'spearmint. And I'll try to record myself going through Star Trip at five-star difficulty via scribbling to demonstrate its effectiveness in CPU matches.

-- Z.

[Avenger]

ive seen quite a few topics on scribbling vs non-scribbling...and i think its safe to say that some people can use it to their advantage and some cant...its a fun game but i have found that the "strategic scribbling' helps sometimes. but you need to know where, when and how to scribble...its not just frantic and random there is a sort of skill to it :)

[ubersaurus]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

Nothing wrong with that. Sony is an arrogant company that deserves the hatred it receives. But I would hope that atleast some of us can look past the system and look at the game itself.

Nintendo was as arrogant in its late-'80s heyday as Sony has ever been, and it's at least as deserving of hatred. Its lockout technology and licensing/manufacturing fees fueled the lack of originality in the modern console-game biz, its censorship of game content fueled mainstream opinion that video games are strictly for kids, etc., etc.

But anyhoo. I favor Lumines because its design isn't broken. Meteos apologists claim that random scribbling doesn't work well at higher levels of play, but that it works at all--and it works very well against most CPU and human opponents--is a fatal flaw.

I assume that Meteos (and Nanostray) apologists are DS fans trying to convince themselves that an average/flawed game is a great one, for no other reason than they're rooting for the manufacturer of its host hardware.

-- Z.

Said the man that thought Lunar SSSC was good.

[NintendoMan]

I have only played Lumines a few times and found it not to be very fun, in my opinion. Now Meteos isn't the funiest game in the world, but do like it.
Therefore, my vote of course goes to Meteos.

[zmweasel]

Said the man that thought Lunar SSSC was good.

I do think SSSC is good, but I'm somewhat biased. (Hint: check the localization credits (http://www.workingdesigns.com/museum/playstation/ourgames/lunar-sssc/credits.html).)

But anyhoo. Could you explain what my opinion of an RPG whose text I wrote has to do with my opinion of two portable action/puzzle games? I fail to see the connection. You could also write "Said the man that likes Frosted Blueberry Pop-Tarts," and it would be just as irrelevant to the topic at hand.

-- Z.

[fpstream]

Anyone else find it interesting that a bunch of you have posted supporting Lumines (i'm the only one supporting Meteos) yet the poll tells a vastly different story.

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

A'men.

[ubersaurus]

Said the man that thought Lunar SSSC was good.

I do think SSSC is good, but I'm somewhat biased. (Hint: check the localization credits (http://www.workingdesigns.com/museum/playstation/ourgames/lunar-sssc/credits.html).)

But anyhoo. Could you explain what my opinion of an RPG whose text I wrote has to do with my opinion of two portable action/puzzle games? I fail to see the connection. You could also write "Said the man that likes Frosted Blueberry Pop-Tarts," and it would be just as irrelevant to the topic at hand.

-- Z.

It just says that we have wildly varied views on what is a good game, since you seem to have an innate dislike for Nanostray and Meteos, two games that I rather enjoy. In contrast, you like a game which bored me to tears.

And yes, I'm aware of your work in localizing the game-as I've said on another ocassion, Austin Powers' cameo was one of the few things I really liked.

[zmweasel]

It just says that we have wildly varied views on what is a good game, since you seem to have an innate dislike for Nanostray and Meteos, two games that I rather enjoy. In contrast, you like a game which bored me to tears.

"Innate" dislike? Not at all. I'm just not as forgiving of the gameplay flaws of Meteos and Nanostray as you and others are, flaws that even the games' fans acknowledge.

Also, if you were aware of my work on SSSC, why mention that I "thought it was good" without also mentioning the crucial detail that I wrote it? That you knew I worked on the game makes your statement not just irrelevant, but bizarre and nonsensical as well.

-- Z.

[njiska]

People who based their choice on console alone rejoice. Both games are headed to a platform we can all universally hate. Cellphones.

http://www.gamespot.com/mobile/puzzle/lumines/news_6132737.html

[Jibbajaba]

People who based their choice on console alone rejoice. Both games are headed to a platform we can all universally hate. Cellphones.

http://www.gamespot.com/mobile/puzzle/lumines/news_6132737.html

Neither game will be at all good on a cellphone. Lumines nees a nice wide screen, and meteos needs the stylus. I suppose that lumines would kind of work on a sidekick or blackberry.

Chris

[njiska]

People who based their choice on console alone rejoice. Both games are headed to a platform we can all universally hate. Cellphones.

http://www.gamespot.com/mobile/puzzle/lumines/news_6132737.html

Neither game will be at all good on a cellphone. Lumines nees a nice wide screen, and meteos needs the stylus. I suppose that lumines would kind of work on a sidekick or blackberry.

Chris

Like i said it's a console we all hate. Cells aren't fit for anything made after 1984.

[Daniel Thomas]

Well, games are considered "classics" when they're ported to other systems, so I suppose this counts as the next step towards videogame canonization.

Have there ever been any good cell phone games? Eh, who knows? I'm still wondering why people even need cell phones, so maybe I'm not the one to ask.

[Zubiac666]

People who based their choice on console alone rejoice. Both games are headed to a platform we can all universally hate. Cellphones.

http://www.gamespot.com/mobile/puzzle/lumines/news_6132737.html

Neither game will be at all good on a cellphone. Lumines nees a nice wide screen, and meteos needs the stylus. I suppose that lumines would kind of work on a sidekick or blackberry.

Chris

I don't know.
I've Lumines on DS and it plays pretty good.
Cellphone displays might be too small though....!

on topic: both are good but Lumines is too sexy,trendy and flashy for me(and I absolutly hate the "music").So i may say Meteos which I also like more gameplaywise.

btw: Meteos and Nanostray flawed? Bah,that could be said about every game released for any platform.Nanostray is a jewel for DS which really shows DS'es 3D power(the only "flaw" is the weaponchange per touchscreen) and I can't see anything "flawed" in Meteos.

[Avatard]

I'm really liking Meteos. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me fast. I really haven't played Lumines yet, so I don't feel qualified to vote.

And I swear zmweasel just lurks untill he sees a pro-nintendo anti-sony post and then jumps in and copys/pastes the same argument he has saved somewhere. We get it dude, Sony is the end all be all of gaming. Thanks.

[zmweasel]

btw: Meteos and Nanostray flawed? Bah,that could be said about every game released for any platform.Nanostray is a jewel for DS which really shows DS'es 3D power(the only "flaw" is the weaponchange per touchscreen) and I can't see anything "flawed" in Meteos.

Yes, virtually every game has its flaws, but the point is that both Meteos and Nanostray have significant flaws that hold them back from greatness, or even very-goodness.

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

And I swear zmweasel just lurks untill he sees a pro-nintendo anti-sony post and then jumps in and copys/pastes the same argument he has saved somewhere. We get it dude, Sony is the end all be all of gaming. Thanks.

What gives you the impression that I think, or have ever thought, that Sony is the "end all be all [sic] of gaming"? I've already stated in other threads that I play devil's advocate in the DP forums to tweak Nintendo fanboys, but that has nothing to do with my opinions of Meteos or Nanostray. I'd feel the same way about them regardless of their native platform.

-- Z.

[anagrama]

I'm reminded of the way a little kid would walk into the arcade and beat down everyone at Street Fighter 2 by doing nothing more than pounding buttons at random. And yet, it never occured to any of us that the gameplay was flawed.

Back-tracking a little here, but that is simply nonsense. SFII is one game where a button-masher will NEVER be able to beat someone who can actually play the game with some competence.

If only the same could be said about most modern fighters... *cough* Soul Calibur *cough*




well i'lll vote and explain why for Meteos. I never played Lumines since i dont have a psp nor do i really care with its current and planned library but i will tell you why i love Meteos ...

Wow. Thanks for your informed vote against Lumines. Having not played Meteos I'm going to refrain from voting.

That's something that really bugs me about a lot of polls on here - people who can't form a balanced assessment but still vote anyway just for the sake of bigging up game/company 'x', and thus rendering the results as useful and informative as a high-school popularity contest.

[le geek]

I guess I'm a bad person because I don't own either a PSP or a DS.

/me goes directly to hell, doesn't pass go, doesn't collect $200As a Nintendo share holder I'm very dissappointed in you! :smash: Buy buy buy!

[le geek]

Nope. Just the usual pro-Nintendo, anti-Sony sentiment of the forums.

-- Z.

Maybe the Sony fans are busy playing GAMES on their console! LOL
(g'nite ladys and germs, you've been great! Don't forget to tip the wait staff...)

Cheers,
Ben