hardest game /levels you had beaten

[Richter Belmount]

what are some of outrageously hard games you have played through? final doom is like damn man you cant even get everything right even in god mode that game is mofoing hard.

[Neil Koch]

The original Grand Theft Auto without cheats... bascially, you could only save after completeing a set of missions and if you messed up a mission once, you couldn't do it over again. GTA2 was also pretty tough, but at least you could save after every missions, but you had to pay to do so. The 3D GTA games have been pretty easy for me for the most part after cutting my teeth on the first two.

The Driver games aren't outrageously hard, but there's always one or two missions on each of them that are a total pain in the ass (ie, the final mission in part 1 or the Catalina chases in 3) from both difficulty and cheapness (lightpoles that never fall down -- they're finally fixing that in the new game).

For older games, I only beat Thunder Force II a couple of times -- the last part of the final side-scrolling level where everything speeds up always took most of my lives and then the boss would use the rest up. The times I did get to the final stage, I don't think I even died.

A lot of Konami's NES games were/are pretty tough for me. I've never beaten several of them, such as Castlevania or Rush N Attack.

[smork]

I'll have to second the final mission in Driver 1. Insane!

FOr current gen, i'm also thinking the Arnhelm level of MOH:Frontline. Ever try that one on the hardest setting? Ugh!

[Fuyukaze]

For the X-box, that would be Gunvalkrye. I still dont know how I finished it, but I not only finished it, but did so without cheats. Brigindine on the PS1 beat me though. Even with cheats, I still couldnt beat it. On the NES, Zanac was a game I could never beat. RushN'Attack is a good pick. I havent even got off the second level.

[jdc]

Gun Valyrie was a game that I dearly wanted to complete....same with Panzer Dragoon Orta, but no way.

There have been plenty of RPG bosses over the years that have left me standing as the victor while my life bar is beeping with a sliver of health left. LOL

One bitch that I never DID take down is the endboss of Final Fantasy 8. I lasted 2 hours and 40 minutes with JUST Squall left until she killed me. I'll remember that time duration until the day I die. 2 hours and 40 minutes.......and then Squall died and I got the "game over" screen. I've been told afterwards that THE only way that you can kill her is if you have Squall's final weapon, which seems highly unfair IMO. Needless to say that although my entire party was maxed in every skill, I didn't have it.

Nearly 3 hours of gaming.....all for nothing. Incidentally, I still have my game saved on my memory card at the spot outside her door.

[Chakan]

It took me what seemed like dozens and dozens of attempts to topple Chakan: The Foreverman. Eventually, I mastered the right set of patterns for the tougher enemies and just got lucky...

More recently, PS2 Shinobi and XBOX Ninja Gaiden seemed fairly difficult to me.

[njiska]

Chapter 7 in Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox. Hard level, hardest boss. I dread what it will be like in the new NG Black.

[Slimedog]

Let's see, Steel Batallion deletes your save if you don't press the eject button right before you die. Its got the highest learning curve ever and is crazy tough on top of that. I beat it a few days ago and I still don't know how.

Battletoads took me weeks if not months to beat. That game was crazy.

Snake Rattle and Roll had some insane jumps and was tough as nails, IMHO. I never did beat that one.

[Neil Koch]

More recently, PS2 Shinobi and XBOX Ninja Gaiden seemed fairly difficult to me.

I gave up on Shinobi after a few levels -- it wasn't "hard", but some of the flying enemies were cheap and the camera sucked IMO.

[SlayerOfFurbies]

Jet Grind Radio

some of the tags were a real bitch to get(i know i spent atleast 5-6 hours on certain stages)
great game though and still one of my favorites

[rbudrick]

Rush N Attack I used to think was impossible... but here's a strategy that will allow everyone to win. Yes, it's a bit sketchy, but it works.

Use a game genie for unlimited lives. Go through the game 10 times like this. Then, play the game without game genie. You will probably beat the game on first or second try. It works for almost everyone I've offered this starategy to.

Another thing you can do (I did this pre-game genie), is set the game to 2-player. Take two rapidfire controllers and put the players back-to-back. Put a c clamp over the B button on both controllers. Come back in two days. You will have the maximum amount of lives for both players because you knived so many soldiers that ran into you. Plus, with a buddy, you can now see the two-player ending where both players show up on the last screen (yeah, big deal heh heh). This strategy works in many games, including Contra III for SNES (on about half the levels).

-Rob

[bargora]

Let's see, Steel Batallion deletes your save if you don't press the eject button right before you die. Its got the highest learning curve ever and is crazy tough on top of that. I beat it a few days ago and I still don't know how.
Yeah, missions 4 and 23 are super-hard to beat until you figure them out. Then they're only pretty tough and easy to screw up. So...now try Veteran Mode! And then Desperado! And then Magnum Force! And then Armageddon! You've only scratched the surface at this point. :P

But the hardest thing I did was beat Mission 13 (including destroying every stinkin' enemy) in Armageddon using a Falchion.

I'd agree about Driver's final mission, but I never beat it without using a cheat.

[SegaAges]

Jet Grind Radio

some of the tags were a real bitch to get(i know i spent atleast 5-6 hours on certain stages)
great game though and still one of my favorites

I'll Second that one. The funny thing is that the end boss of the game is not very hard at all.

[norkusa]

Level 5 on Metal Slug 3 for Xbox. Try beating that without any continues. I honestly thought for a while that it was impossible to beat. Took me a little over 1 week of playing 2-3 hours a night until I finished it, and thats not counting the time I spent on the 4 previous levels (I remember Level 3 being a real bitch too).

Thank god 4 & 5 lets you continue from the last place you died. x_x

[DreamTR]

Ha! New games nowadays are weak compared to these:

Ghosts N GOBLINS for NES
You have to finish it TWICE. Good luck on that. Took me 6 months and I wanted to cry)

Deadly Towers for NES
I never beat the last guy! And this is WITHOUT using that code to switch the letters and start with two swords.

Adventures of Batman and Robin for Genesis
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAH! Yeah.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for NES
This is VERY VERY VERY difficult.

R-Type Arcade
I still think this game is silly on difficulty. Try dying at the end of level 7 and passing that bottom area without weapons. Go on. I dare you.

most of the other NES games are much easier. I used to think Dr. Chaos was pretty hard, but I know a few people that have mastered it pretty well now, that is, only after YEARS of playing it!

I know Battletoads IS a very hard game as well. Probably the hardest of the popular NES titles to try and complete.

Hardest games in this day and age IMO...
Ninja Gaiden for Xbox
Nightshade for PS2
Shinobi for PS2
and any of the Metal Slug games without continuing and completing them the RIGHT WAY.

[HyrulianHedgehog]

GTA2, without a doubt, had the world's hardest level. You had to bust into a prison and shoot eight gaurds while all the prisoners rioted and tried to kill you! It was SO NOT FUN!

[Joker T]

I also agree with Jet Grind Radio that game was really Hard @_@

[Daft Punk]

I can beat tekken 5 on the hardest difficulty.


I can also beat KI Gold on the hardest with the speed all the way up and blindfolded. LOL

[Goodwill Hunter]

It took something like 2 weeks of 3 hour sessions per night to finally beat the final level in Driver (It is still one of my favorite games and I can't understand why they can't get thee sequels right!). I still remember literally screaming the time I ended up on my roof, right outside of the parking garage!

I still pop in that final level from time to time, and have now beaten it a total of 3 times...gotta love those crazy black sedans!

Rich

[The Plucky Little Ninja]

One bitch that I never DID take down is the endboss of Final Fantasy 8.

I would have a damn heart attack if I lost to an RPG boss after wailing on it that long.

I was actually pretty underpowered when I fought her, but someone told me that you just had to haste squall and cast whatever spell it was that doubled or tripled your chance of getting a limit break (is that what they were called in part eight? It's been awhile). If you didn't get the limit just keep hitting triangle to skip his turn until it shows up. Once you've nailed her various forms with that 16 hit move of his a few times she's history. I had no idea how the level up system worked the first time I played that game so my party just sucked, but I was able to beat it this way.


Jet Grind Radio

some of the tags were a real bitch to get(i know i spent atleast 5-6 hours on certain stages)
great game though and still one of my favorites

I just love that game. I still haven't played the X-box version. As hard as it could be, I found the learning curve to be pretty steep. Once you got over that stupid hump even the hardest tags seemed like a breeze, but I know where you're coming from. There were tags in that game that I swore were impossible to nail.

[Falcon]

Devil May Cry. I beat this game ONCE on Normal difficulty and to this day im so proud of myself... the harders game that I've beaten besides Super Metroid.

Maximo: Ghosts to Glory is another really hard game!

[junglehunter]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES). I simply do not play that game because it's soo insanely difficult. Had great gameplay though. 8-)

[rbudrick]

TMNT used to drive me crazy. I used to make it to level 6 with NO problems...but level 6 had enemies tougher and cheaper than a summbitch! But I found the secret to it! 8-) You stock up every charachter with a maximum amount of scrolls (I think it was a building in level 3 you had to continuously go in and out of). When you get to level 6, obliterate any enemy with them. Not even Shredder will touch you. Man, was it rewarding as hell to beat that game...so damn hard.

-Rob

[DreamTR]

TMNT is not THAT hard. I base difficulty on games that have nearly impossible areas or sequences. Ghosts N Goblins makes TMNT look like child's play.

[Jumpman Jr.]

The last levels of "The lost levels" (LOL) are incredibly hard. There is no way that I would ever be able to beat that game on a Famicom cart (Super Mario Bros. 2 Japan) because I used the save function 1000 times.

[Slimedog]

TMNT is not THAT hard. I base difficulty on games that have nearly impossible areas or sequences. Ghosts N Goblins makes TMNT look like child's play.

I would agree. Its just a matter of practice and patterns. I beat TMNT without scrolls several times and after a while, I never got hit at all on level 6. However, I would say that unlimited continues made Ghosts N Goblins easier than Battletoads.

My scale would be:

Battletoads > Ghosts N Goblins > TMNT

[Dr. Morbis]

I would agree. Its just a matter of practice and patterns. I beat TMNT without scrolls several times and after a while, I never got hit at all on level 6. However, I would say that unlimited continues made Ghosts N Goblins easier than Battletoads.

My scale would be:

Battletoads > Ghosts N Goblins > TMNT
...and I totally disagree with that! Ask yourself, which games can be mastered? I have mastered TMNT to the point that I can no death run it. I have mastered Battletoads to the point that I have beat it with only 3 deaths (and I could do a no death run if I wanted to waste like a week straight of my life playing it over and over again until I had a perfect run). I have NOT mastered G'N'G, and I never will.

Ghosts 'N Goblins is unmasterable. You will never meet someone who can run through NES G'N'G without dying right before your eyes (or dying only a few times). It can't be done (prove me wrong :evil: ) and that's why G'N'G is in a class by itself in terms of difficulty. The weird part is that it is so fun despite this; though your mileage may vary.

In light of the above, the hardest level I've ever beat is level 6 of Ghosts 'N Goblins.

[Kroogah]

Dr. Morbis, I actually agree with your ordering, but I just had to post this:

http://www.zophar.net/NESticle/nsm/

Has 2 Ghosts & Goblins movies: 1 beating the first quest with 0 deaths, (bottom of page) and 1 going through twice with 5 deaths total (no continues)

[Dr. Morbis]

Dr. Morbis, I actually agree with your ordering, but I just had to post this:

http://www.zophar.net/NESticle/nsm/

Has 2 Ghosts & Goblins movies: 1 beating the first quest with 0 deaths, (bottom of page) and 1 going through twice with 5 deaths total (no continues)
Well a lot can be done with a pc and an emulator ;)

I'm talking about playing G'N'G on a real console with no cheating devices the way God (and those sadistic Japanese programmers) intended.

[Slimedog]

I would agree. Its just a matter of practice and patterns. I beat TMNT without scrolls several times and after a while, I never got hit at all on level 6. However, I would say that unlimited continues made Ghosts N Goblins easier than Battletoads.

My scale would be:

Battletoads > Ghosts N Goblins > TMNT
...and I totally disagree with that! Ask yourself, which games can be mastered? I have mastered TMNT to the point that I can no death run it. I have mastered Battletoads to the point that I have beat it with only 3 deaths (and I could do a no death run if I wanted to waste like a week straight of my life playing it over and over again until I had a perfect run). I have NOT mastered G'N'G, and I never will.

Ghosts 'N Goblins is unmasterable. You will never meet someone who can run through NES G'N'G without dying right before your eyes (or dying only a few times). It can't be done (prove me wrong :evil: ) and that's why G'N'G is in a class by itself in terms of difficulty. The weird part is that it is so fun despite this; though your mileage may vary.

In light of the above, the hardest level I've ever beat is level 6 of Ghosts 'N Goblins.

So why itsn't it masterable? There is no randomization to the game, same as most. Its all patterns, same as (almost) every other NES game. Now don't get me wrong, the game is damn hard. One of the hardest. But since it restarts you back at certain checkpoints, every time you beat a segment of a level, you have to do so without dying. The potential certainly exists for a no death run. Its even got a level select to allow you to practice on the harder stages to prep for an honest run at beating it. As for beating it twice, well if you went through it once, obviously you can do it again and only use the crappy Cross for the last level or two. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don't think the difficulty in GnG is beyond Battletoads.

[Chakan]

Battletoads was UGH!! That first speedbike level would be enough to throw me off half the time. I never did finish that game and doubt I'll ever bother trying hard enough to do so.

What's everyone think of Contra: Hardass Corps for the Genesis? I remember it being a little tougher than the other Contra games...

Also, as far as fighting games go, Eternal Champions has seemed like the most difficult to me. Anyone got something tougher?

No, the challenge of sitting through Rise of the Robots doesn't count. :P

[DreamTR]

Slimedog: You are wrong on some aspects, the patternsof the Red Arremer are randomized. He will stabe at you with an array of different patterns that are completely sporatic. Same goes for some of the enemies. The boss characters have patterns, but it's way more difficult. Battletoads is hard, I will give you that, but more players have beaten Battletoads than going through Ghosts N Goblins. I still say that and Adventures of Batman and Robin for Genesis as well as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are some of the most difficult games ever made. Battletoads is on a Ninja Gaiden XBOX level of difficulty, but that is not to be even compared to Ghosts N Goblins. Even on unlimited CONTINUES it will frustrate you because you do not start from where you lost your last life. YOu still need to go through Red Devil hell. Good luck on the second quest. I don't trust emulators. I have seen bs on them, like that SMB3 video!

[Retsudo]

Soviet Strike(PS)- I found this game gets real hard as you progress. The enemy doesnt miss or let up on the guns.

MK Trilogy(PS)- The game gets real hard after the 5th match even on real easy. Everything you throw at your opponent, they block or duck. I did find a way to cheat the AI though. I chose Baraka and do his standing spinning blade move. The AI just keeps walking into it.

[izret101]

MK Trilogy(PS)- The game gets real hard after the 5th match even on real easy. Everything you throw at your opponent, they block or duck. I did find a way to cheat the AI though. I chose Baraka and do his standing spinning blade move. The AI just keeps walking into it.

Heh i don't really find any of the Mortal Kombat games that hard at al. The hardest one IMO was the gameboy version of MK only because it took me awhile to get the timing down because of the shit frame rate.

I have beat
The Lost Levels I cheated though and went online to find out thr proper way thu Bowsers castle after i ran thru it a few times.

TMNT I don't remember which version though... I think it is the same one you guys are talking about though. I remember the going in the buildings and the footclan trucks on the street that ran you over but thats about it. I use to rememebr all the dialouge too. We recieted everything in Shredders voice which was hillarious.
Me and my cousin played this for disgustingly large amounts of time. We beat it when we were between the ages of 6-8.

Shinobi i couldn't really stay interested in. It was kinda hard but as was said it wasn't the best gameplay wise IMO.
My little bro got further in the game than i did.

[Slimedog]

Slimedog: You are wrong on some aspects, the patternsof the Red Arremer are randomized. He will stabe at you with an array of different patterns that are completely sporatic. Same goes for some of the enemies. The boss characters have patterns, but it's way more difficult. Battletoads is hard, I will give you that, but more players have beaten Battletoads than going through Ghosts N Goblins. I still say that and Adventures of Batman and Robin for Genesis as well as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are some of the most difficult games ever made. Battletoads is on a Ninja Gaiden XBOX level of difficulty, but that is not to be even compared to Ghosts N Goblins. Even on unlimited CONTINUES it will frustrate you because you do not start from where you lost your last life. YOu still need to go through Red Devil hell. Good luck on the second quest. I don't trust emulators. I have seen bs on them, like that SMB3 video!

Well since I apperantly had an easier time with it than the rest of the planet, I'll lay out how I managed to beat the game. It might be handy for others attempting it. This was about 9 years ago so the specifics are somewhat hazy.

1. Got the game from a friend. Played it until I got to the Big Man house. Got killed several million times. Declared the game "Retarded" and possibly "Gay". Threw it in a corner and vowed never to touch it again.

2. 2 years later, I had just discovered that most games had become a lot easier after I gave up with the Max and went back to the regular controller. Beat the Big Man house and the next level, but was still bitterly defeated. Confidence shaken, I decided to regroup.

3. Throughout the week, I used the stage select to hop around to different levels and get proficient. Continued until I could beat each individual level.

4. One weekend, I spent the day making my run. Played through once and beat Lucifer. Whenever I could, I used the scrolling trick to avoid fighting many of the Red Devils. Left the system paused overnight. The second run through went pretty quickly, except the last bit where I beat some Red Devils with the stupid Cross. Finished the second run before noon that Sunday.

5. Declared the game "Not Retarded or Gay in the Slightest".

[Richter Belmount]

I have beat
The Lost Levels I cheated though and went online to find out thr proper way thu Bowsers castle after i ran thru it a few times..

I played through that one just fine on my gbc but i guess cause it had a save feature and i got really into being a smb freak getting through hard levels fine