3 undocumented NES games found!

[Speedy_NES]

EDIT: See page 2 of this thread for screenshots of the games. :)



I saw these 'pirated' NES games listed somewhere and wondered if they are unique games or just another pirated copy of some game with a different name. Does anyone know? They all have the Gluk Video logo on them, kinda reminds me of all the HKGC pirated cartridges :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/Nesclon_SkateBoy.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/Nesclon_correBenny.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/Nesclon_AventuraSubmarina.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/Nesclon_bookyman.jpg

-Speedy

[rbudrick]

Screenshots? Really, there's no other way to tell unless someone else owns these same carts. What are they, Brazilian?

-Rob

[Speedy_NES]

Screenshots? Really, there's no other way to tell unless someone else owns these same carts. What are they, Brazilian?

-Rob

I don't own them, so I don't have any screenshots - that's why I'm asking here :) I saw them listed on a Spanish website, so my guess is they originate from Spain.

-Speedy

[TheRedEye]

HOLY CRAP! I saw one of these carts about seven years ago at some kind of electronics swap meet thing from a Mexican seller (and I don't mean that in the generic racist sense, I mean that he was actually from Mexico, so calm down Sothy). This was before I really cared about this stuff, so I didn't buy it. I was always wondering if I'd see one again, and there they are.

Like someone said, there's no way of knowing without buying them and seeing. If you're not willing to, I'll do it for you.

[Ruudos]

Never seen any of those. They don't look like typical pirate cartridges. There's a fair chance that thi sare original games.

Anybody owns one of these carts?

[TheRedEye]

Booky Man is one of the games on that "Caltron" compilation, for those who missed it.

[rbudrick]

HOLY CRAP! I saw one of these carts about seven years ago at some kind of electronics swap meet thing from a Mexican seller (and I don't mean that in the generic racist sense, I mean that he was actually from Mexico, so calm down Sothy). LOL LOL LOL LOL

-Rob

[DDCecil]

Isn't that Maya the Bee on the second cart?!

[Damon Plus]

Screenshots? Really, there's no other way to tell unless someone else owns these same carts. What are they, Brazilian?

-Rob

I don't own them, so I don't have any screenshots - that's why I'm asking here :) I saw them listed on a Spanish website, so my guess is they originate from Spain.

-Speedy

Have you seen them at Retrones?

[jajaja]

I have one of those games, atleast its the type same cartridge. I also have the box and maual. The game is War in the Gulf, but it also excist as a original game.

[NESaholic]

Arent these Brazilian indeed?I think their pirated only to be bought out there,correct me if i'm wrong tho.

[Chronodriftersx]

Isn't that Maya the Bee on the second cart?!

Just wanted to say isn't that Conan O'brien in your avy? Man that kills. LOL

[Chronodriftersx]

Isn't that Maya the Bee on the second cart?!

Just wanted to say isn't that Conan O'brien in your avy? Man that kills. He looks like he's shooting a gun too LOL

[jajaja]

Here is a pic of my cart.
It lists other games in the "manual" also and one is Booky Man.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ninjaz1/Im000497.jpg[/img][/url]

[Qixmaster]

Booky Man is one of the games on that "Caltron" compilation, for those who missed it.

not to mention those are the EXACT same cartridges that caltrons are on.

[leonk]

Booky Man is one of the games on that "Caltron" compilation, for those who missed it.

not to mention those are the EXACT same cartridges that caltrons are on.

Interesting.. has someone duplicate the caltron cart, or has caltron paid this company to make the compilation for them? (the same way AVE paid Sachen for Pyramid!)

[Speedy_NES]

What's also interesting is that the War in the Gulf label of yours, jajaja, has the code CN-07 on it - and Caltron has the code CN-11 on it :)

I've decided to buy the games...I'll let you guys know which exact games are on them as soon as they are in my possession (I agree that it's safe to assume that the fourth cartridge listed will have Bookyman from Mega Soft on it).

Thanks for all the input so far!

EDIT: By the way, I've seen quite a few pirated games and multicarts with that cartridge, so I think that Caltron just purchased the cartridges from NTDEC to use for the 6-in-1.

-Speedy

[rbudrick]

If these are legit unlicensed non-pirates, I'll shit myself. Good score, if so!! Time to add some titles to the DP guide?

-Rob

[mills]

Awesomes stuffs man, FIGHTING HERE!

[Qixmaster]

also, it looks like there are labels underneath the skate boy and the last picture you posted.

-Josh

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Arent these Brazilian indeed?I think their pirated only to be bought out there,correct me if i'm wrong tho.
Yep. You´re wrong. These are not brazilian carts. The text is in spanish, but i don´t know from which country...maybe Argentina...i´m not sure.

Matías

[Qixmaster]

Arent these Brazilian indeed?I think their pirated only to be bought out there,correct me if i'm wrong tho.
Yep. You´re wrong. These are not brazilian carts. The text is in spanish, but i don´t know from which country...maybe Argentina...i´m not sure.

Matías

since he is in europe, maybe they are from spain?

-Josh

[rbudrick]

Yep. You´re wrong. These are not brazilian carts. The text is in spanish, but i don´t know from which

I know Brazil's main language is Portuguese, but every now and then (with so much pirated stuff coming out of Brazil), I see Spanish carts come from there. Of course, You would know far better than I, Matías. :)

-Rob

[Arqueologia_Digital]

I think this carts come from Southamerica, don´t know which country, but i´m sure these are from this continent. Also, Brazil is a country with a lot of pirate video games history, but Argentina too...

Matías

[Speedy_NES]

Arent these Brazilian indeed?I think their pirated only to be bought out there,correct me if i'm wrong tho.
Yep. You´re wrong. These are not brazilian carts. The text is in spanish, but i don´t know from which country...maybe Argentina...i´m not sure.

Matías

since he is in europe, maybe they are from spain?

-Josh

Yup, the store that I'm buying them from is located in Spain, so it's likely that these games originate from there.

-Speedy

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Well, if this carts are from Spain, maybe Damon Plus must recognize them...

Matías

[jbholio]

Great find! All Mega Soft games were released in famicom format by NTDEC, but yours are 72 pins carts :? Here is a pic of the box of War in the Gulf (famicom). As you can see, the game is made my Mega Soft and released by NTDEC.

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/other/wargulfbox.jpg

The cases of your games are exactly like Caltrons. I have a pic of a 15 in 1 pirate cart with a Caltron case and a NTDEC logo on the back.

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/other/15in1back.jpg

I think NTDEC is the company behind Caltron. All games on Caltron 6 in 1 were made by Mega Soft and released by NTDEC. The code CN-01 can be found on the famicom Fighting Hero carts and CN-07 on famicom War in the Gulf carts (Caltron is CN-11). I also found a pic of a famicom Fighting Hero 3 cart (CN-19) with a NTDEC logo.

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/other/fightinghero3.jpg

Also a while ago, I found this article on the Internet:
Such arrangement can be found in Nintendo of America, Inc. vs. NTDEC case for copyright infringement and trademark damages (Sun, 1998). The accused infringers are NTDEC, Nintendo Electronic Co. (located in Taiwan), Mega Soft Inc. (a California company served as a front for the defendants) and four other individuals (all citizens of Taiwan). The defendants openly acknowledged that they had knowingly sold counterfeit Nintendo video game cartridge to the United States and elsewhere from at least as early as 1990 and they knew their action were illegal. Nintendo Co. Ltd. of Japan used to seek Taiwan's enforcement of its rights, but since Japan has only a limited reciprocal arrangement with Taiwan, it only filed the claim through its subsidiary, Nintendo of America, Inc. which locates in the United States. In the default judgment, the district court held the defendants liable both jointly and severally and awarded Nintendo of America Inc. more than US$24 million in damages and US$109,000 for attorney fees.


Maybe you found 4 original unlicensed games because I never heard of the 3 first titles. I'd really like to have more info on this when you receive the carts.

[mills]

wow, these carts could be a piece of history.

[Sothy]

HOLY CRAP! I saw one of these carts about seven years ago at some kind of electronics swap meet thing from a Mexican seller (and I don't mean that in the generic racist sense, I mean that he was actually from Mexico, so calm down Sothy). This was before I really cared about this stuff, so I didn't buy it. I was always wondering if I'd see one again, and there they are.


Yeah those look like cool cartridges.

But how about you shut the hell up in regards to me.

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Now i also want some info about NTDEC. I never heard about this company and i love that kind of information (lost companies, licence troubles, etc.) that is a part of video game history...

Cheers and any help will be great.

jbholio: If you want, contact me via PM...

Matías

[Speedy_NES]

Hi everyone,

thanks for all of your interest & thanks for the info jbholio!

I just received the four cartridges today, and it definitely seems that three of the games are original titles that haven’t been documented yet. I assume that “Gluk Video” simply published/distributed these in Spanish regions in a manner similar to how Myriad Games distributed Caltron’s 6-in-1 (slapping a label on top of the old one). The covered label on two of the cartridges seems to be the original label as they both display the correct game title as well as the CN code. Here is some info on the games:


Label title - Game title - Copyright info titlescreen - CN code on original label (underneath Gluk Video label)

Booky Man – Bookyman - NTDEC 1991
Corre Benny - Go! Benny! – NTDEC 1992
La Gran Aventura Submarina - Sea Dreamland – Mega Soft 1992 – CN-15
Skate Boy – Skate Boy - Caltron Ind. Inc. 1992 – CN-18

As for the games themselves, I haven’t had much time to play them yet, but here is a quick overview:

Skate Boy: similar to Skate or Die 2 but much more fast-paced; horizontal scroller where you have to jump over/avoid obstacles or throw frisbees at them.

Sea Dreamland: horizontal shooter in an underwater setting, where you fire at various fish.

Go! Benny!: again a horizontal shooter, this time airborne.

Bookyman: same game as on the Caltron/Myriad 6-in-1. Perhaps an earlier release as this one is dated 1991 on the title screen and the Caltron version is dated 1992.

I will take some screenshots of the games as soon as possible – most likely towards the end of the week, though, as I’m under a lot of time pressure at the moment.

If anyone wants any other info on the games, let me know. :)

-Speedy

[jbholio]

WOW! I have never heard of these 3 games until now X_x . Are the games in english? Is Gluk Video the publisher? I would really like to see some screenshots. Would you mind if I add the pics of your carts to the unlicensed section of my site (http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/fd491499/nintendo/nes/). If you have any other info about these, I'd like to know :D .

[jajaja]

Eventho if these carts are legit I dont think they will be worth much like Caltron and Myriad. But still cool to have for your own collection tho. It would also be cool to get confirmed if they really are legit or bootleg.

[Speedy_NES]

WOW! I have never heard of these 3 games until now X_x . Are the games in english? Is Gluk Video the publisher? I would really like to see some screenshots. Would you mind if I add the pics of your carts to the unlicensed section of my site (http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/fd491499/nintendo/nes/). If you have anymore info about these, I'd like to know.

First of all, great site! I've checked it out quite a bit in the past, just to see what's out there & for comparing title screens :) As for your questions...yes, the games are in English. I'm not sure if Gluk Video is the publisher, but I would assume that they purchased these cartridges perhaps from NTDEC/Caltron themselves and then slapped their label on the carts, given the fact that there are original labels underneath two of the Gluk Video labels. On the other hand, none of these cartridges have a label on the back, and they are also missing the NTDEC logo engraving, even though the flattened area for the logo is still there.

Concerning the pictures, I got those from the shop that I bought the games from. I can scan the cartridges for you, if you want. I'll see if I can do it later tonight or tomorrow.

As for screenshots, I'll take some in a few minutes. :)


Eventho if these carts are legit I dont think they will be worth much like Caltron and Myriad. But still cool to have for your own collection tho. It would also be cool to get confirmed if they really are legit or bootleg.

Well, the fact that they are in the same casing as Caltron games and two of them seem to have an original label underneath with the original game title & CN-## code makes me believe that they are more legit than bootleg. Then again, there's no way to verify this, at least not yet. We'll have to live off speculation for the time being ;)

-Speedy

[jbholio]

I'm 99% sure these are not bootleg games. Speedy_NES, if you have time, I'd like to have better scans of your 4 games. Send them to jbholio@hotmail.com

About the date on your Booky Man title screen. I have a Magic Carpet cart (with a Mega Soft copyright) and the date is 1991. I guess all games on the Caltron 6 in 1 were made in 1991 but Caltron only released the 6 in 1 in 1992.

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/magiccarpet7.jpg

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/magiccarpet1.png

[Speedy_NES]

I'm 99% sure these are not bootleg games. Speedy_NES, if you have time, I'd like to have better scans of your 4 games. Send them to jbholio@hotmail.com

Ok, I'll scan them for you sometime tomorrow :)


About the date on your Booky Man title screen. I have a Magic Carpet cart (with a Mega Soft copyright) and the date is 1991. I guess all games on the Caltron 6 in 1 were made in 1991 but Caltron only released the 6 in 1 in 1992.

Yeah, that makes sense. I wonder if all of the games on the Caltron 6-in-1 games were released on individual cartridges prior to the release of the 6-in-1...and if the CN-## is sequential, there are a lot of #'s that are unaccounted for ;)

Here are some screenshots of the games (feel free to use them for your website, jbholio):

Sea Dreamland:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3922.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3920.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3919.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3925.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3926.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3924.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3928.jpg

Skate Boy:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3933.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3930.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3932.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3935.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3936.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3937.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3938.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3941.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3943.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3944.jpg

Go! Benny!:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3912.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3913.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3914.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3915.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3916.jpg

Bookyman:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3908.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Speedy_NES/DSCN3911.jpg

Enjoy :)

Also, I must say, these games are actually quite fun to play (especially Sea Dreamland)...I'll try and get further in at least one or two of them sometime this week, to get some more screenshots going.

-Speedy

[Speedy_NES]

Does anyone know how to open these cartridges (should be the same as Caltron 6-in-1 cartridge)? Despite removing all of the screws, I can't seem to open them as the front and back are still stuck towards the top of the cartridge. The last thing I want to do is break something ;) Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
-Speedy

[Famidrive-16]

I remember a page on pirate NES games that had a game that had the exact screens of that Pookyman game, except it was called "Run Away!!!" or something like that.

I'll have to search on it, the page was like three years old...

[jbholio]

I remember a page on pirate NES games that had a game that had the exact screens of that Pookyman game, except it was called "Run Away!!!" or something like that.

It's called Brush Roller. Here is a pic of the title screen.

http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/ef491443/screenshots/brushroller1.png

Speedy, I added your carts to my site. I decided to put Mega Soft as the developer since the games seem to be all made by the same company (Mega Soft / NTDEC / Caltron). Thanks again for your scans and screenshots. If you decide to take more screenshots, send them to me and I'll add them to my site.

[Raedon]

very cool! 8-)

[SexyKitten]

I'm not knocking the legitmacy of Speedy's claim I will just state what the owner of the website where he bought these games from has told me. The owner of the website says they are clones, I have purchased them myself and they should be arriving soon. You may be asking yourselves how do I know its the same website? The web site I visited was based out of Spain and had the same photos of the games he first presented. In my personal opinion i do belive to be real and i think the owner of the store is confused. That said I am wonderign why he has more?

[Speedy_NES]

I'm not knocking the legitmacy of Speedy's claim I will just state what the owner of the website where he bought these games from has told me. The owner of the website says they are clones, I have purchased them myself and they should be arriving soon. You may be asking yourselves how do I know its the same website? The web site I visited was based out of Spain and had the same photos of the games he first presented. In my personal opinion i do belive to be real and i think the owner of the store is confused. That said I am wonderign why he has more?

That's interesting, I assumed that mine were the only copies as the cartridges and labels are identical to those shown on the website. I just checked his website again, and these games are now no longer available, so maybe he only had two copies of each game (or more, if anyone else has been buying them lately ;)). When you receive your games, could you make a picture/scan them? I'm curious to see how your labels will compare to mine, and whether any of them will also have another label underneath. I also assume that the seller considered these games as clones based on the cartridge and label not being licensed/from Nintendo.

-Speedy

[SexyKitten]

Ok he emaield me vack and this is what he said

Hola,

No, no está disponible. acabo de actualizar la seccion de las clonicas NES,
se me pasó quitar algunos juegos de la venta.

Saludos

[kainemaxwell]

Ok he emaield me vack and this is what he said

Hola,

No, no está disponible. acabo de actualizar la seccion de las clonicas NES,
se me pasó quitar algunos juegos de la venta.

Saludos
Can someone translate?

[Speedy_NES]

Ok he emaield me vack and this is what he said

Hola,

No, no está disponible. acabo de actualizar la seccion de las clonicas NES,
se me pasó quitar algunos juegos de la venta.

Saludos
Can someone translate?

Here is a translation using www.freetranslation.com:

"Not, it is not available. I have just brought up to date the seccion of the clonicas NES, was passed me to
remove some play of the sale."

I guess he only had one copy of each game after all. :/

-Speedy

[hydr0x]

haha i could have translated that on my own, and i don't even speak any spanish

[donkeykong1]

Ok he emaield me vack and this is what he said

Hola,

No, no está disponible. acabo de actualizar la seccion de las clonicas NES,
se me pasó quitar algunos juegos de la venta.

Saludos

No, not available. I just updated the NES clones section, I forgor to remove some ganes from the sale.

[Speedy_NES]

Does anyone know how to open these cartridges (should be the same as Caltron 6-in-1 cartridge)? Despite removing all of the screws, I can't seem to open them as the front and back are still stuck towards the top of the cartridge. The last thing I want to do is break something ;) Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
-Speedy

Anyone? ;)

-Speedy