why aren't there any real sextoy consoles?

[pragmatic insanester]

hentai movie/game market = huge. weird sexual accessories = huge period. so..why not combine the two? i'm surprised that something even as gimmicky as like a whip-accessory game (kind of like those fishinrods you move and there's a small screen where you catch fish on it) hasn't appeared. since mainstream console games that are AO are basically doomed market-wise, why not make a seperate, adult-oriented system? imagine all the point-of-view pornstar games (like you seen on somethingawful's review list) being played independant of a computer. if there were a console, i bet people would buy up all the "limited edition" models resembling a certain actress with a "once gamed on" guarentee. that would be much more important to sexual-maniacs than some kind of bobblehead/book autographed, don't you think?

[Blanka789]

Nobody wants to take the risk, and few people would publicly admit owning one. LOL

[hezeuschrist]

I'm pretty sure you live on the wrong island if you want to get your hands on this stuff, heh.

[Leroy]

When people take anime too far; news at 11.

[Mianrtcv]

Hmm. Right. Okay. Isn't this the kind of thought that is reserved for "inner monologue only"? LOL I agree with atm55, noone wants to undertake this project. Adult industry companies are profitable with their own product lines within their own segment of consumers. This wouldn't be a typical venture from a business standpoint. For businesses in gaming just look at most adult oriented or rated material. Usually everything is either garbage or not marketable/saleable. Who wants to be known as the creator of the first controller dubbed masturbation madness or (add your equally bad joke here)?

[Griking]

I agree with atm55, noone wants to undertake this project. Adult industry companies are profitable with their own product lines within their own segment of consumers. This wouldn't be a typical venture from a business standpoint. For businesses in gaming just look at most adult oriented or rated material. Usually everything is either garbage or not marketable/saleable. Who wants to be known as the creator of the first controller dubbed masturbation madness or (add your equally bad joke here)?

Well, we DO have the Rez vibrator. :D

[jwl]

I wonder what the preplayed market would be on the systems LOL

[Daltone]

I remember seeing on an episode of Graham Norton ages ago that there are some, err, interesting things that you can get for your PC tower. I seem to recall that it was called a Hard Drive, but I could be wrong. Whatever, there was one version for men, one for women. I would google it but really, I just don't want to @_@

[hegyak]

There are 2 reasons for this not happening, demand and children getting their hands on this. All you need is a copy of rally cross for the PSX and a vibrating psx controller. The controller vibrates so much. Now what you do with that controller is up to you. :)

[SexyKitten]

haha well i dont know if this counts but i have a vibrator that plugs into my usb port.

[Push Upstairs]

i have a vibrator that plugs into my usb port.

My inner 13yr old just did a Butthead laugh after reading that bit of text.



Why aren't there console sex toys? Aren't there already sex toys?

[ubersaurus]

i have a vibrator that plugs into my usb port.

My inner 13yr old just did a Butthead laugh after reading that bit of text.



Why aren't there console sex toys? Aren't there already sex toys?

I dare you to think of another use for the Rez Trance Vibrator.

[icarwngs55]

1. I am picturing lots of sticky controllers

2. Universal controllers would be hard (ha) some may be to big or to small...picture X-box...ouch to the ladies

Mike

[pragmatic insanester]

oops. i meant more as a console for adult video games. a gimmicky controller or so, not really all the "have sexorz with teh system" that seems to have conjured.

[yuppicide]

I would buy one and I personally don't mind admitting I owned one either.

[Mianrtcv]

I wonder what the preplayed market would be on the systems LOL

Ewwww :puke:



But i'm sure ebay would be ablaze with auctions, till they get shut down.

[manuel]

I'm sure that would sell quite well.
Though everyone would say "who buys something like that".

Such systems would be the only ones I wouldn't want to buy used. :P

[poloplayr]

i heard that the power glove was first designed to help overmasturbating nerds.

[Darth Sensei]

I'd be all over this. :D

[Darth Sensei]

I'd be all over this. :D

[Daria]

I wonder what the preplayed market would be on the systems LOL

Ewwww :puke:



But i'm sure ebay would be ablaze with auctions, till they get shut down.

Why? Ebay does have an adult section.

[rbudrick]

If the gameplay was good enough, you bet your ass this would sell. You think the Revolution controller is innovative? Wait'll you see the accessories this could produce.

When you think about the multi-billion dollar porn industry spread across every form of media, the really is no good reason other than the level of today's technology (graphics, mostly) this hasn't been created yet. The world is full of pervs of every kind, and I honestly believe something like this (unfortunately or not), would sell ike hotcakes if the content was enriching enough for the, um, user.

I wonder if for the first time the argument could hold true that videogames could make people act out things in real life...

Sure, most venture capitalists wouldn't go for this. But a whole buttload would. There's plenty of porn companies that would throw their moneyt at this if a technology company could demonstrate plans for a product like this that would generate money for them.

And make no mistake, this would truly be the way to market to that demographic that is so difficult to reach...women.

With that said, I am not condoning it, I'm just saying it would sell like all hell if it happenned. It probably hasn't because graphics aren't realistsic enough yet. Wait a console generation or 3.

-Rob

[goatdan]

I don't know if I'm supposed to be taking a realistic stance on this, or just supposed to be grunting and saying, "Yeah! Digital BOOBIES!" or something but I'm going to go realistic for a second here...

I'm also going to take this as a console that you "interact" with in some form or another, as that is what most people did. As for a console with just a lot of pornographic games on it, there are a LOT of those games that are released in Asia. I believe the Saturn had a whole bunch of them, and there are even more. As for why they don't make it over here, that comes down to the fact that the market isn't that big for something like that, and other than pornographic stores, no one would carry it. Couple that with the fact that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have enough problems on their hands thanks to people like R* with the GTA business that it would have to be an unlicensed thing for a system, and those three companies are EXTREMELY anal about their rights, and no porn company is going to release a game that will cause Sony (or the others) to come hunting them. The profit margin wouldn't be that great.

Now, as for a standalone "interactive" machine, this wouldn't happen for a few reasons:

The first is the simple fact that most sex toys used are made for and used by women, and the market for video games (or for that matter, hardcore pornography) does not skew in that way. So, while it may be a success with a small part of the population, it would be a tough sell to the vast majority of it. And when you're spending (lets say) $10 million to develop the system, you need a bunch of sales to back that development up, sales that won't easily materialize (especially because the best way of advertising -- word of mouth -- would be greatly hampered by the taboo nature of the product. I could walk into work and talk about my new PS2 game. I wouldn't feel so comfortable telling them I got a great new virtual sex machine. Nor would I feel comfortable telling my friends that.)

Secondly, there is the very real problem of lawsuits. The 'game' system would have to be plugged into the wall somewhere, and would have to have built in a way to guarantee that people did not somehow electrocute themselves from it. If something happened, not just would it cost the company money, but the system would be forced into a recall which would mean a loss of all of the money expended in the first place.

Finally, there would be the problem of how to store the system. The system would have to have at least semi-realistic graphics or I don't think most people would bother with it, but at the same time I think that if it wasn't a standalone unit (like the Jakks things) that it would be very hard to "hide" it. If you have kids, how do you keep them from getting into it? If you have friends over, what do you call the thing next to the Xbox if someone asks?

There are so many problems that would come into it that I don't see it happening for a long, long time if ever. There is a potentially huge pay off, but the pron industry has enough of a payoff without having to invest more than a few hundred bucks for "actors" and a few thousand for pressing and sales.

[thehistorian]

The only thing that worries me is the "Used" market.

I mean really... who wants to take a used peripheral (attachment? input device?) in for trade?

[Cauterize]

One downside to this...

There would be NO Trading/2nd Hand Consoles for obvious reasons!

[Push Upstairs]

I dare you to think of another use for the Rez Trance Vibrator.


"Muscle Massager" :D

At least thats how similar devices are marketed various non-adult magazines.


Other than that...how about model paint mixer? LOL

[rbudrick]

I don't know if I'm supposed to be taking a realistic stance on this, or just supposed to be grunting and saying, "Yeah! Digital BOOBIES!" or something but I'm going to go realistic for a second here...

I'm also going to take this as a console that you "interact" with in some form or another, as that is what most people did. As for a console with just a lot of pornographic games on it, there are a LOT of those games that are released in Asia. I believe the Saturn had a whole bunch of them, and there are even more. As for why they don't make it over here, that comes down to the fact that the market isn't that big for something like that, and other than pornographic stores, no one would carry it. Couple that with the fact that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have enough problems on their hands thanks to people like R* with the GTA business that it would have to be an unlicensed thing for a system, and those three companies are EXTREMELY anal about their rights, and no porn company is going to release a game that will cause Sony (or the others) to come hunting them. The profit margin wouldn't be that great.

Now, as for a standalone "interactive" machine, this wouldn't happen for a few reasons:

The first is the simple fact that most sex toys used are made for and used by women, and the market for video games (or for that matter, hardcore pornography) does not skew in that way. So, while it may be a success with a small part of the population, it would be a tough sell to the vast majority of it. And when you're spending (lets say) $10 million to develop the system, you need a bunch of sales to back that development up, sales that won't easily materialize (especially because the best way of advertising -- word of mouth -- would be greatly hampered by the taboo nature of the product. I could walk into work and talk about my new PS2 game. I wouldn't feel so comfortable telling them I got a great new virtual sex machine. Nor would I feel comfortable telling my friends that.)

Secondly, there is the very real problem of lawsuits. The 'game' system would have to be plugged into the wall somewhere, and would have to have built in a way to guarantee that people did not somehow electrocute themselves from it. If something happened, not just would it cost the company money, but the system would be forced into a recall which would mean a loss of all of the money expended in the first place.

Finally, there would be the problem of how to store the system. The system would have to have at least semi-realistic graphics or I don't think most people would bother with it, but at the same time I think that if it wasn't a standalone unit (like the Jakks things) that it would be very hard to "hide" it. If you have kids, how do you keep them from getting into it? If you have friends over, what do you call the thing next to the Xbox if someone asks?

There are so many problems that would come into it that I don't see it happening for a long, long time if ever. There is a potentially huge pay off, but the pron industry has enough of a payoff without having to invest more than a few hundred bucks for "actors" and a few thousand for pressing and sales.

Interesting points, Dan, but I think that considering the benefits (multi billions of $), these lawsuits would be outweighed.

The no one would carry it argument for the current and past pornographic games would be likely negated by the interactivity features of such a console and its peripherals. You wouldn't just be looking at a screen holding a controller in your hands...or hand. ;) Plus, wireless controllers will likely stop most electrocution lawsuits if the peripherals are made to the same, er, standards as current "safe" sex toys, and made wireless. Who uses those wall unit toys anyway?! LOL

The production costs might actually be rather low for such games, making it even more enticing.

Women truly do buy most of the sex toys out there, but many men would buy it for their women...for whatever reasons you can likely imagine. On top of this, a lot of guys use women's sex toys. Plus, there's a buttload of men's sex toys out there (no pun intended), and this type of console could certainly drive a market for them.

And as for hiding it? There's a huge joke I could use for that in relation to the system's peripherals, but I'll refrain heh heh. LOL But seriously, you could hide it where you hide the rest of your, um, toys. Lord knows the Nintendo Revolution is going to be tiny, and technology is getting smaller and smaller.

Man, what a weird thread.

-Rob

[goatdan]

Interesting points, Dan, but I think that considering the benefits (multi billions of $), these lawsuits would be outweighed.

The no one would carry it argument for the current and past pornographic games would be likely negated by the interactivity features of such a console and its peripherals. You wouldn't just be looking at a screen holding a controller in your hands...or hand. ;) Plus, wireless controllers will likely stop most electrocution lawsuits if the peripherals are made to the same, er, standards as current "safe" sex toys, and made wireless. Who uses those wall unit toys anyway?! LOL

Actually, the wireless argument is a fair one that I hadn't thought of. I still think that the distribution problem would be huge. Even if you put this in each porno store and online, you still couldn't get the amount of distribution that a standard console gets.

And the development prices would be very high for such a peice. I'm not saying that it definitely wouldn't make money, but it would be a HUGE risk. And it would be such a HUGE risk financially that I can't imagine anything but a publicly owned company with the money to make the risk, and then that company would need to convince its shareholders of how great this will be.

While it probably doesn't need to be much of a "console," to make it interactive in any way to convince people to spend money on it (remember, a "normal" sex toy doesn't cost $300 like this system likely would, and accessories would cost the same and more than current accessories do), but the "interactive" functions would have to work rather well. You're not going to spend $300 + 25% more than *ahem* normal prices for your accessories if it doesn't work very well.


The production costs might actually be rather low for such games, making it even more enticing.

The problem comes in though of what would those costs be? You could make a very simple style interactive thing - like a choose your own adventure video - but that's already been done. And it doesn't cost $300 more to, um... "play" (?) it.


Women truly do buy most of the sex toys out there, but many men would buy it for their women...for whatever reasons you can likely imagine. On top of this, a lot of guys use women's sex toys. Plus, there's a buttload of men's sex toys out there (no pun intended), and this type of console could certainly drive a market for them.

I realize this, but at the same time at such a cost I think it would put off everyone but the most hardcore fans. (heh, that was unintentionally funny.) Then, the problem of interaction. While I agree with the statement, if it is a "game" aimed at a straight woman, I don't think that straight males are going to want to "play" with it, never mind the fact that the "interaction" with the "controllers" will not work similiarly. So you'd have a different game for the straight male, and a different interaction mechanism. Same with for gay men and women.

And the problem really comes in with the "controllers". The fact is that there would have to be multiple input devices, and as I said before they would cost more than standard devices. And then there are other issues of durability and compatibility that would come in, as these "controllers" would take much more of a beating than your average GameCube controller does.


And as for hiding it? There's a huge joke I could use for that in relation to the system's peripherals, but I'll refrain heh heh. LOL But seriously, you could hide it where you hide the rest of your, um, toys. Lord knows the Nintendo Revolution is going to be tiny, and technology is getting smaller and smaller.

But with the rest of the rest of it these things, you don't have to plug them into your TV every time. Sure, a video might go into the VHS player, but you don't have to hide the VHS player because of it.

This would work if it was part of an existing system because people wouldn't see it and say, "Oh, I see you've got an Xbox. :hmm:" A PS3 or Xbox "interactive" feature. But with all the problems that those companies already have from the strange workings of the US Government / Censorship committees, it won't happen. And unlike with games like Bubble Bath Babes in the NES era, the DMCA allows companies to sue whomever they want at any time, and if these "games" were associated with Microsoft, you can guarantee that MS (or Sony or Nintendo) would put an end to it immediately. They don't want to have grandmas stop buying the Xbox because, "that's the system that you can make love too."


Man, what a weird thread.

Yeah. And somehow, we're having a rather serious conversation about it. I almost didn't read it, because I knew I would have some interesting ideas to type, but it was going to be weird...

Ah well, all in good fun :)

[rbudrick]

I think about strange niche game systems like the gP32, and I think, "wow, who's buying that." Somehow it thrives. As much as the US government would love to shut such games down, I truly do not think they possible could unless it was proven they were being marketed to minors. 1st Amendment and all. AO ratings would keep the games out of regular stores. Hell, online features would explode (no pun, again) on a system like this. Downloadable content? Chatrooms would never be the same. People would hook up in their Everpornquest sessions all the time.

Yeah, people would buy different peripherals, but some may come with the games.

I look at it this way...when the bubble burst back in the late 90s to early 00s, the porn industry was one of the only things that still thrived like a mofo...I don't think it even took a hit, but grew instead. Porn always sells, and technology and porn sells better. People are always after new and convenient ways to get their rocks off. Regardless of censorship, lawsuits, and investors, if done effectively, a system like this could thrive larger than any other console ever, imo.

-Rob

[RCM]

I'd be down for this. I've been thinking about having sex with a Sega Saturn for a little while now.

[pragmatic insanester]

in response to an earlier statement, what would you consider a true console "porn" game? there are exploitive ones, with real or fake boobs/butts, but nothing matching even the most mainstream types of real porngraphy. the computers have the genre pretty nailed down, though.

[Mianrtcv]

haha well i dont know if this counts but i have a vibrator that plugs into my usb port.

MEOW! :D

[Niku-Sama]

haha well i dont know if this counts but i have a vibrator that plugs into my usb port.

where do you get something like that?

and N64 controllers for the girlies? common you know you've thought it, not very long but theres something there

[Mianrtcv]

N64 controllers for the girlies? common you know you've thought it, not very long but theres something there

Can you say rumble pack? LOL

[Jorpho]

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2005/08/29/teledildonics/index_np.html

It's only a matter of time.

[Sothy]

Yeah man I dunno. When Im digging through a pile of cartridges at a garage sale and theres some shit on the label ..That should only be figurative.

Oh and Im just gonna get this over with ......Yall realize sexykitten is a dude right?