Resident Evil Comparison PS2 & GC

[Cmtz]

http://ruliweb3.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/read.htm?main=ps&table=img_screen_con&page=1&num=8547&find=&ftext=&left=h&time=

[Jestr]

The difference in detail is actually pretty amazing, but I doubt it will be that noticable when you are actually playing the game. That little Cube is a pretty powerful system!

[le geek]

Heh, I know which one I'd buy :)

Cheers,
Ben

[shvnsth]

Heh, I know which one I'd buy :)

Cheers,
Ben

both, cause the ps2 version has extra stuff. and its prob the best game of the last couple years.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

The difference is pretty small, concidering how much less powerfull the PS2 is. If I had a GC, I would've already played/beaten. But, I dont, so I'm getting the PS2 version. And, if it comes out on time, its shipped on the day of my birthday. Thanks capcom!

[Gamebrain]

Ha whoever thought the PS2 has better graphics is an idiot.

[Joker T]

Intresting I wonder what the frame rate is like. RE4 on GC runs so damn smooth :)

[sabre2922]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.

and theres still this: Yoshihiro Mori, senior managing director at Nintendo said, "The big drop for GameCube games was in North America. It looks like the product's life is nearing its end." He said developers are focusing now on next generation systems.

Yeah I know im :deadhorse: but just trying to make a point ;)

[davepesc]

The level of detail looked a little better to me on the Cube screens, but ihe overall frame looked darker. I was trying to look at the edges around the character and whatnot, and while I could see some jagged lines on the PS2 screens, the Cube was usually so dark I couldn't tell where Leon's head ended and the wall began.

Pick your poison, I guess.

[njiska]

The difference is pretty small, concidering how much less powerfull the PS2 is. If I had a GC, I would've already played/beaten. But, I dont, so I'm getting the PS2 version. And, if it comes out on time, its shipped on the day of my birthday. Thanks capcom!

Well the difference in the stills is minimal (with a few exceptions), but I still want to see them running side by side. I have a feeling that the GC will look better when it's playing.

Doesn't change the fact that's i'm gonna have to buy the ps2 version anyway. I can't beleive i'll have bought the game 3 times over (GC normal, GC Tin, PS@ something).

[Xizer]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.

Now who's spreading lies? The GameCube runs at 485 MHz, and the PS2 runs at 294 MHz.

Stop trying to do damage control.

The PS2's extras in RE4 aren't anything special, either. One weapon, a few outfits is all.

[Richter]

sheesh, they pretty much deforested the woods

[Griking]

Heh, I know which one I'd buy :)

Cheers,
Ben

both, cause the ps2 version has extra stuff. and its prob the best game of the last couple years.

I really don't understand paying an extra $50 to get a second copy of the same game, even if the PS2 version has a few minor changes over the GC version

[sabre2922]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.

Now who's spreading lies? The GameCube runs at 485 MHz, and the PS2 runs at 294 MHz.

Stop trying to do damage control.

The PS2's extras in RE4 aren't anything special, either. One weapon, a few outfits is all.

hah I gotta give you an A for effort New guy ;)

But alas your wrong the PS2 IS 333 Mhz and the Gamecube is slightly over 400 bottom line baby.

Also: Damage control? why the hell are ya talking about are you trying to say that becuase of these slight differences that RE4 wont sell on the PS2? give me a fuckin break on that old rehashed shit buddy LOL More likely than not the PS2 VERSION OF RE4 WILL FAAAR OUTSELL THE GAMECUBE VER.

Hell even many of the gamers that DO HAVE THE GC VERSION ARE STILL PLANNING TO PURCHASE THE PS2 EDITION if that tells ya anything so why would I even bother with this so-called damage control conspiracy theory of yours?

Oh wait your right I just got my pay-check in the mail from Capcom MY bad YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG you caught me :embarrassed:

[njiska]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.

Now who's spreading lies? The GameCube runs at 485 MHz, and the PS2 runs at 294 MHz.

Stop trying to do damage control.

The PS2's extras in RE4 aren't anything special, either. One weapon, a few outfits is all.

Take your own medicine. While you're right about the clockspeeds (which is irrelevant since they're different processor types) you fucked up about the extras.

RE4 for the PS2 features a brand new mini-mission where you get to play as Ada assiting Leon through the various part in the game. It's more then just a new gun and a suit of armour.

[njiska]

But alas your wrong the PS2 IS 333 Mhz and the Gamecube is slightly over 400 bottom line baby.


Sorry but he is right sabre.

GC Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Cube)
PS2 Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2)

Sorry for the double post it was done by mistake.

[sabre2922]

But alas your wrong the PS2 IS 333 Mhz and the Gamecube is slightly over 400 bottom line baby.


Sorry but he is right sabre.

GC Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Cube)
PS2 Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2)

Sorry for the double post it was done by mistake.

hmmm Ill find the link but the PS2 is 333MHz and the GC is only slightly above 485 so says my momma :D

[Xizer]

But alas your wrong the PS2 IS 333 Mhz and the Gamecube is slightly over 400 bottom line baby.


Sorry but he is right sabre.

GC Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Cube)
PS2 Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2)

Sorry for the double post it was done by mistake.

hmmm Ill find the link but the PS2 is 333MHz and the GC is only slightly above 485 so says my momma :D

The PSP can reach 333 MHz, but it is currently capped at 222 MHz.

Also, I forgot the mission. Okay, what do we have now? A weapon, a few outfits, and a few extra missions that are likely just tacked on and not as good as the main game.

[njiska]

But alas your wrong the PS2 IS 333 Mhz and the Gamecube is slightly over 400 bottom line baby.


Sorry but he is right sabre.

GC Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Cube)
PS2 Specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2)

Sorry for the double post it was done by mistake.

hmmm Ill find the link but the PS2 is 333MHz and the GC is only slightly above 485 so says my momma :D

The PSP can reach 333 MHz, but it is currently capped at 222 MHz.

Also, I forgot the mission. Okay, what do we have now? A weapon, a few outfits, and a few extra missions that are likely just tacked on and not as good as the main game.

You don't know that. Here read (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/653/653900p1.html).

Five hours of extra gameplay is nothing to scoff at. Even if it's five hours of PS2 gameplay.

[studvicious]

The most noticible differences to me were the lack of trees and bushes in the PS2 version (not a TOTAL lack but FAR less than the GC)

and the other being Leon's hair. The PS2 version just looks like a flat glob just sitting on his head while the GC version flows more naturally. But of course you won't really know for sure until we see it in motion.

[Xizer]

Five hours of mediocre, tacked-on gameplay.

I'd rather play with the improved visuals and perfect control of the 'Cube version - not with the clunky PS2 controller and the PS2's jaggy visuals.

The 'Cube version was perfect - it's so good it doesn't even need those extra missions.

[Spartacus]

I'm glad I have the Cube version and see no compelling reason to buy the PS2 version anytime soon. Definately looks muddier to me, but after all it is a port. I suspect most PS2 players won't have seen the Cube version so I'm sure the game will be terrific for them. I'd bet somebody here knows approximately how many more PS2 systems there are than Cube systems, but if I was to hazard a guess I would think that tens of millions more gamers are going to have a chance to play and enjoy this game. And that's a good thing for everyone, especially for Capcom!
It's unfortunate that Shinji Mikami feels he has to cut off his own head over this!

[roushimsx]

Wow, the PS2 version looks pretty damn nice. Sure, it's not as nice as the Gamecube version, but it still looks pretty darn good.

I'll probably be picking it up. Glad I held off and didn't buy the Gamecube version.

[Xizer]

Err-no, that's a bad thing.

I'd rather people played this on the GameCube instead of the watered-down PS2 port.

By the way - GameCube has sold 22 million units, 90 million PS2s have been sold. Keep in mind though, that the PS2 number is inflated because everyone has to buy 3 PS2s to replace their older ones, because the PS2 breaks constantly.

[Cmtz]

Wow, the PS2 version looks pretty damn nice. Sure, it's not as nice as the Gamecube version, but it still looks pretty darn good.

I'll probably be picking it up. Glad I held off and didn't buy the Gamecube version.

Why are you glad you didn't buy the Gamecube verison?

[njiska]

Five hours of mediocre, tacked-on gameplay.

I'd rather play with the improved visuals and perfect control of the 'Cube version - not with the clunky PS2 controller and the PS2's jaggy visuals.

The 'Cube version was perfect - it's so good it doesn't even need those extra missions.


Err-no, that's a bad thing.

I'd rather people played this on the GameCube instead of the watered-down PS2 port.

By the way - GameCube has sold 22 million units, 90 million PS2s have been sold. Keep in mind though, that the PS2 number is inflated because everyone has to buy 3 PS2s to replace their older ones, because the PS2 breaks constantly.

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

[Xizer]

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4. Also, the PS2 version of RE4 has longer load times, and even certain parts removed that the PS2 can't handle.

[njiska]

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4. Also, the PS2 version of RE4 has longer load times, and even certain parts removed that the PS2 can't handle.

Anybody else wanna smack the shit out of this kid? Get a clue, fanboys aren't welcome here.

First off, what parts were removed? No where that i've read has claimed any parts have been removed. Second, get off you're high horse. The GC is a 3rd wheel. It's that other system that geeks play. It's our kind of system, but it's not mainstream. All Capcom is doing is giving the mainstream a chance to enjoy it and they're not doing a half-assed job for once. I had huge doubts but Capcom is doing a hell of a job. If you doubt me go look at the Masterbit video's of RE4 on IGN.

Stop preaching and be warned that if you continue down this path other members won't be so kind.

[stressboy]

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4.

But what about those of us who have both a Gamecube and a PS2?? Oh wise one.. tell us.. do we deserve RE4?

Please.. get off the Internet and go outside for awhile.

[MarkMan]

lol... we should really scan or have an entrance exam for members nowadays...

That being said. Any Resident Evil, is good Resident Evil. I'm happy that it's coming out on PS2 even though I alreayd played the GCN one... it'll give me an excuse to experience the great game again.

[hegyak]

So the PS2 version has more? The GC version was first or have we forgotten this thing called time? It takes time to make this stuff. So of course there's going to be more stuff in the ported edition. I say the GC version is just fine, so what if many more gamers get to enjoy this game? Capcom gets money, more people get to play RE4. Although it does say on the GC cover that RE4 is a gamecube exclusive I guess capcom wanted more then just the nintendo fanbase for this one. More money in capcom's hands means more money to devlop RE5.

[sleepycal]

Interesting topic of discussion.

Its not often that games have staggered releases like so. Grand theft auto comes to mind. I guess its to retain some semblance of exclusivity for the first system to get the game.

When you get down to it, the extras are necessary for a game that is released nine months later than the original. Anyone who really, really wanted to play the game would have found a way to do it at release. I can see people complaining about paying full price for a game that is nine months old. So either the release would have to be at a slightly lower cost than a standard game, or include some extra content over the original. Or both.

I for one will be buying the PS2 version. Probably not at release though. I own and have played through the cube version twice and enjoyed the extras (though have yet to fully clear the Mercenaries). I would like the chance to play through the new mini game, but one could probably just rent it/borrow to do that. No, the reason I'm stuck buying a game I already have is simply the fact that I've become a Resident Evil fan and have ended up buying every version of every game released.

So... please Capcom. Don't go and make another version of RE 4 for Xbox and 360. I can't spend all of my gaming funds on the same game.

[EricRyan34]

I got the 'Cube version the day that it came out, Gamestop Special Edition even......and I cant wait for the PS2 version to come out too! I already pre-ordered it because i read that it will probably be better than the Gamecube version!

[Biff_McFresh]

I already have the Cube version. Lovely game.

I'll probably pick up the PS2 version when I can find it at a low price.

[hezeuschrist]

Err-no, that's a bad thing.

I'd rather people played this on the GameCube instead of the watered-down PS2 port.

By the way - GameCube has sold 22 million units, 90 million PS2s have been sold. Keep in mind though, that the PS2 number is inflated because everyone has to buy 3 PS2s to replace their older ones, because the PS2 breaks constantly.

I want to hug you until your eyes bleed. Fanboys are so cute!

RE4 for PS2 is not a port. It's the same game that was released 10 months ago, but it was definitely built from the ground up for the PS2 for it to look as nice as it does, all things considered. If it were a port it would look like pure ass, but the team at Capcom had to rework the game engine around the PS2's strong points to get a decent looking game, and they've done a fantastic job.

And really, brilliant quip about Sonys selling strength with the PS2 being to shitty hardware. You are a comedic genius, completely original material.

[sabre2922]

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4. Also, the PS2 version of RE4 has longer load times, and even certain parts removed that the PS2 can't handle.

Listen kid Ive been trying my damndest (is that a word? lol) to become one of the most hated posters on this board and nobody is going to take that away from me LOL

but in all seriousness All of us here at this board are well aware that the Gamecube is a damn good little system and about over 75% of us here are the "geek-type-so-called-hardcore-gamers" that Nintendo tried its best to cater to with the little purple box that could. ;)

You would be surprised at how favored the Gamecube is on this board. Hell Ive been flamed out the wazoo for critisizing the Revolution but Im also very much looking forward to the Revo anyway my point is that We are not Sony drones or even Nintendo (well most of anyway :P ) we just like the games and enjoy a good debate over the systems that provide us with said games be it the "underpowered" PS2 or the "Halo is king" Xbox or the "your not hardcore if you dont own one" Gamecube.

Not to sound like a broken record but they are all great systems and they all have there posotives and negatives.

Hell I have a complete luv/hate thing going on with my PS2 to this day I luv it for all the great games and incredible library it provides and I hate it for helping to kill of the ailing Dreamcast my favorite system overall yet they set across from eachother like two old soldiers staring across a war torn boarder with all the respect that they have earned (is that dramatic enough for you? -_- )

We only debate about all this geek stuff because we all love videogames and many of us here are truly hardcore enthusiast that have been playing and expereincing this once small hobby for well over 20 years.

so hey join in the fun and make a few friends along the way (or as I excel at make a few enemies along the way :D ) but either way try to grasp on to what this board is all about and youll do fine my friend.

If not I think you would feel much more comfy and fit right in over at the Gamefaqs or especially the Gamestop boards where you get to use highly intelligent slangs and geek poster board chatter( I am being sarcastic here by the way) :roll: to flame away at whatever loathsome "troll" or "sheep" crosses your path and disses your beloved
Gamecube.

[PS2Hawk]

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4. Also, the PS2 version of RE4 has longer load times, and even certain parts removed that the PS2 can't handle.

Listen kid Ive been trying my damndest (is that a word? lol) to become one of the most hated posters on this board and nobody is going to take that away from me LOL

but in all seriousness All of us here at this board are well aware that the Gamecube is a damn good little system and about over 75% of us here are the "geek-type-so-called-hardcore-gamers" that Nintendo tried its best to cater to with the little purple box that could. ;)

You would be surprised at how favored the Gamecube is on this board. Hell Ive been flamed out the wazoo for critisizing the Revolution but Im also very much looking forward to the Revo anyway my point is that We are not Sony drones or even Nintendo (well most of anyway :P ) we just like the games and enjoy a good debate over the systems that provide us with said games be it the "underpowered" PS2 or the "Halo is king" Xbox or the "your not hardcore if you dont own one" Gamecube.

Not to sound like a broken record but they are all great systems and they all have there posotives and negatives.

Hell I have a complete luv/hate thing going on with my PS2 to this day I luv it for all the great games and incredible library it provides and I hate it for helping to kill of the ailing Dreamcast my favorite system overall yet they set across from eachother like two old soldiers staring across a war torn boarder with all the respect that they have earned (is that dramatic enough for you? -_- )

We only debate about all this geek stuff because we all love videogames and many of us here are truly hardcore enthusiast that have been playing and expereincing this once small hobby for well over 20 years.

so hey join in the fun and make a few friends along the way (or as I excel at make a few enemies along the way :D ) but either way try to grasp on to what this board is all about and youll do fine my friend.

If not I think you would feel much more comfy and fit right in over at the Gamefaqs or especially the Gamestop boards where you get to use highly intelligent slangs and geek poster board chatter( I am being sarcastic here by the way) :roll: to flame away at whatever loathsome "troll" or "sheep" crosses your path and disses your beloved
Gamecube.


I hate to say it but GameCube is not a good system.
Last game I bought for GC was Jan 11th 2005
next game I will buy : After April 2006

the port is pretty respectable and better is certian aspect. Yes the graphic look good, but they did remove extra stuff from the screen and cinsidering PS2 only has 4 MB of video memory thats impressive.

[stressboy]

I hate to say it but GameCube is not a good system.
Last game I bought for GC was Jan 11th 2005
next game I will buy : After April 2006


What does the date of the last game you bought for the Gamecube have to do with whether or not it is a good system?

[Doku_san]

I might have to pick up a Gamecube, so I can play RE4. I mean, I like the look of the Re-makes of the original RE games so I'll get those too. Then there is RE-0.
I will probably get this on Gamecube and Ps2. You never know when two copies and some extra gameplay will come in handy.

[sabre2922]

Yeah I know we dont need yet another systems specs flame war and dont feed the trolls and all but Im bored so hear goes:

Sony PlayStation 2 Technical Specifications
CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine" running at 300 MHz
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
Co-Processor: FPU (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 1,
Floating Point Divider x 1)
Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x
9,
Floating Point Divider x 1)
Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer"
"Graphics Synthesizer" Clock Frequency: 150MHz
"Graphics Synthesizer" DRAM Bus bandwidth: 48 GB Per Second
"Graphics Synthesizer" DRAM Bus width: 2560 bits
"Graphics Synthesizer" Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer
(24:8:32)
"Graphics Synthesizer" Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons
Per Second
Sound: "SPU2 + CPU"
Number of voices: ADPCM: 48 channel on SPU2 plus definable by
software
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 KHz or 48 KHz (selectable)
I/O Processor CPU Core: Current PlayStation CPU
I/O Processor Clock Frequency: 33.8 MHz or 37.5 MHz (selectable)
I/O Processor Sub Bus: 32 Bit
I/O Processor Interface Types: IEEE1394, Universal Serial Bus
(USB)
I/O Processor Communication: via PC-Card PCMCIA
Disc Media: DVD-ROM (CD-ROM compatible)
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Nintendo GameCube Technical Specifications
MPU ("Micro Processing Unit"): Custom IBM Power PC "Gekko"
manufactured with 0.18 micron IBM Copper Wire Technology, running
at 485 MHz
CPU Capacity: 1125 Dmips (Dhrystone 2.1)
Internal Data Precision: 32-bit Integer & 64-bit Floating-point
External Bus: 1.3 GB/second peak bandwidth
32-bit address space
64-bit data bus
162 MHz clock
Internal Cache: L1: Instruction 32KB, Data 32KB (8 way) L2: 256KB
(2 way)
System LSI: Custom ATI/Nintendo "Flipper" manufactured with 0.18
micron NEC Embedded DRAM Process
Clock Frequency: 162 MHz
Embedded Frame Buffer: Approx. 2 MB
Sustainable Latency: 6.2ns (1T-SRAM)
Embedded Texture Cache: Approx. 1 MB
Sustainable Latency: 6.2 ns (1T-SRAM)
Texture Read Bandwidth: 10.4 GB/second (Peak)
Main Memory Bandwidth: 2.6 GB/second (Peak)
Pixel Depth: 24-bit Colour, 24-bit Z Buffer
Image Processing Functions: Fog, Subpixel Anti-aliasing, 8
Hardware Lights, Alpha Blending, Virtual Texture Design,
Multi-texturing, Bump Mapping, Environment Mapping, MIP Mapping,
Bilinear Filtering, Trilinear Filtering, Ansitropic Filtering,
Real-time Hardware Texture Decompression (S3TC)
Real-time Decompression of Display List, HW 3-line De-flickering
filter
Sound Processor: Custom Macronix 16-bit DSP
Instruction Memory: 8KB RAM + 8KB ROM
Data Memory: 8KB RAM + 4KB ROM
Clock Frequency: 81 MHz
Performance: 64 simultaneous channels, ADPCM & PCM encoding
Sampling Frequency: 48KHz
Floating-point Arithmetic Capability: 10.5 GFLOPS (Peak)
(MPU, Geometry Engine, HW Lighting Total)
Real-world polygon: 6 to 12 million polygons/second (Peak)
System Memory "Splash": 40 MB
Main Memory: 24 MB MoSys 1T-SRAM
Approx. 10ns Sustainable Latency
A-Memory: 16 MB 81 MHz DRAM
Disc Drive: CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) System
Average Access Time: 128ms
Data Transfer Speed: 16Mbps to 25Mbps
Media: 3 inch Nintendo GameCube Disc (based on Matsushita's
Optical Disc Technology)
Capacity: Approx. 1.5GB
DVD, CD, VCD, CD-R, DVD-R compatible (Panasonic version only)
4 Controller Ports
2 Memory Card Slots
Analogue AV Output
Digital AV Output
2 High-Speed Serial Ports
High-speed Parallel Port
Power Supply: AC Adapter DC12V x 3.5A
Dimensions: Width 150mm (5.9") x Depth 160mm (6.3") x Height 110mm
(4.3")
----------------------------------------------------------

So the PS2 chimes in at 6.2 gigaflops (wich is what most developers say actually matters more than CPU speed)

and the Gamecube goes one-up with 10.5 not bad but not a LARGE difference in overall performance

Like Njiska stated they are two very different machines also they both have many + and - that seperate the two.


Then theres this from Gamefaqs:

Clock Speed: 294.912 MHz
Cache Memory: 16KB Instruction, Data 8KB + 16KB
Main Memory: 32MB Direct Rambus(RDRAM) running at 800Mhz, dual channel
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2GB per second
Co-Processor: Two Parallel Vector Operational Units
Floating Point Performance: 6.2GFLOPS
Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons per second(no texture layer), 38 Million
polygons per second(one texture layer), and 20 Million polygons per
second(two texture layers)
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG-2

hmm slightly different specs :hmm:
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another interesting tidbit (and Im not stating that this is true so dont bother flaming me for it ;) ):

The Xbox has 64MB of DDR SDRAM running at 200MHz. The PlayStation 2 has
32MB of RDRAM running at 800MHz, dual channel. Comparison charts in websites
don't tell you that. They just simply state the amount. Even if Xbox had
128MB of memory, Japanese developers would still prefer the PS2's memory
system. Why? Beats me, I've just read about this in some article.

I have doubts about this one

[poloplayr]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.


There's a lot more to a console gfx capabilities than just the Mhz count...

[sabre2922]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.


There's a lot more to a console gfx capabilities than just the Mhz count...

I agree and I was slightly off about the specs anyway.

But my point was that both the PS2 and Gamecube are very comparable systems unlike the Xbox wich IS actually more powerful than both the PS2 and GC.

[fishsandwich]

Still looks good to me on PS2

and by the way the Gamecube isnt THAT much more powerful than the PS2 one good example: the PS2 runs at 333 MHz (not just 300 as falsely reported in a few places) and the Gamecube runs at 400 MHz the two consoles are more even matched than most ppl think.



Are you a time traveler from 1984 or something? Do you reallly think that you can compare the performance of two entirely differently designed machines just by the speeds of their CPU's? Ever heard of GPU's? RAM? Data trasfer rate?

The days of comparing the performance of game consoles based on their CPU speed is LONG over (if it ever truly began.) Come join us here in the present. :/

Incidentally, I own neither a GameCube or a PS2, so I really don't care which one is more powerful. I'd love to play this game on either console, though.

:D

[sabre2922]

Hey guys take it easy I didnt start this fucking thread LOL

I was just trying to prove to the new guy that both systems were very comparable in power THATS ALL damn :roll:

Anyway the PS2 version of RE4 looks great wich shouldnt be surprising in that RE4 STARTED OUT AS A PS2 PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE, now lets see if that gets me flamed LOL

[Mog_the_Destroyer]

All of you just STFU about this flame war about which system is better.

WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!

Both systems are great.

I have both and play both regularly (sp). If someone asks me which system is better I have to ask what type of games they like because thats the only difference between the systems is the games. The games are what make a system. Who cares about the specs a shitty spec system with GREAT games can out sell a perfect spec system with SHITTY games.

Just let the new systems come out and watch the prices drop for the old. Thats all I care about is getting the games. And yes I will be getting both games because I like to have complete collections. (DAMN YOU NES CHAMP CART!!!!! 6000 MY ASS!!!!)

So lets get back to the topic at hand. The GCN version looks better, but the extra missions in the PS2 version is sweet necter to the people who have the GCN version. Love you Capcom, but hate you for taking my money.

[fishsandwich]

Hey guys take it easy I didnt start this fucking thread LOL

I was just trying to prove to the new guy that both systems were very comparable in power THATS ALL damn :roll:

Anyway the PS2 version of RE4 looks great wich shouldnt be surprising in that RE4 STARTED OUT AS A PS2 PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE, now lets see if that gets me flamed LOL

Whoops. Sorry if I sounded harsh, man. Too much coffee this morning. Comparing machines based solely on processor speeds is a peeve of mine, but I see that's really not what you were doing.

From what I've read, the Gamecube is measureably more powerful than the PS2 but that the PS2 has been pushed much harder and that developers continue to find ways to exploit its power. Like someone else said... it doesn't matter how powerful your system is if the games aren't there. The Gamecube has plenty of good games... just not as many as the PS2, and not enough exclusives.... RE4 being a perfect example.

:/

[njiska]

The fanboy is strong in this one. Does it strangle your brain when you post?

The PS2 version isn't watered down. It's more feature packed then the GC version and even though it doesn't look quite as good it's still very impressive.

The PS2 version is still a solid version of the game and it's a great thing for people who haven't had a chance to play it on the GC.

While a lot of PS2's have been sold as replacements it's still got an insanely larger installed base then the GC and now all those gamers are gonna get a chance to enjoy the experience.

Haha, anyone who bought a PS2 but not a GameCube is a dumbass and doesn't deserve RE4. Also, the PS2 version of RE4 has longer load times, and even certain parts removed that the PS2 can't handle.

Listen kid Ive been trying my damndest (is that a word? lol) to become one of the most hated posters on this board and nobody is going to take that away from me LOL

but in all seriousness All of us here at this board are well aware that the Gamecube is a damn good little system and about over 75% of us here are the "geek-type-so-called-hardcore-gamers" that Nintendo tried its best to cater to with the little purple box that could. ;)

You would be surprised at how favored the Gamecube is on this board. Hell Ive been flamed out the wazoo for critisizing the Revolution but Im also very much looking forward to the Revo anyway my point is that We are not Sony drones or even Nintendo (well most of anyway :P ) we just like the games and enjoy a good debate over the systems that provide us with said games be it the "underpowered" PS2 or the "Halo is king" Xbox or the "your not hardcore if you dont own one" Gamecube.

Not to sound like a broken record but they are all great systems and they all have there posotives and negatives.

Hell I have a complete luv/hate thing going on with my PS2 to this day I luv it for all the great games and incredible library it provides and I hate it for helping to kill of the ailing Dreamcast my favorite system overall yet they set across from eachother like two old soldiers staring across a war torn boarder with all the respect that they have earned (is that dramatic enough for you? -_- )

We only debate about all this geek stuff because we all love videogames and many of us here are truly hardcore enthusiast that have been playing and expereincing this once small hobby for well over 20 years.

so hey join in the fun and make a few friends along the way (or as I excel at make a few enemies along the way :D ) but either way try to grasp on to what this board is all about and youll do fine my friend.

If not I think you would feel much more comfy and fit right in over at the Gamefaqs or especially the Gamestop boards where you get to use highly intelligent slangs and geek poster board chatter( I am being sarcastic here by the way) :roll: to flame away at whatever loathsome "troll" or "sheep" crosses your path and disses your beloved
Gamecube.

It hard for you to become the most hated powter with such a through and thoughtful post. LOL

Seriously though lay off sabre guys, he understands the whole different processor thing. The flame war is over, Xizer has been throughly licked, sabre has learned a vauable lesson and PS2 Hawk, has chimed in and been subsequently ignored. Sounds like a good day to me. Let the good times role and here's hoping RE4 gives the PS2 crowd something cool.

[poloplayr]

I hate to say it but GameCube is not a good system.
Last game I bought for GC was Jan 11th 2005
next game I will buy : After April 2006



Great analysis, Einstein.

[heybtbm]

So when did Digital Press actually become Gamefaqs 2?

PS2 > Gamecube
Gamecube > PS2

....Yawn.

[roushimsx]

So...um...yea...


this thread went straight to shit with some retarded fanboy gamefaqs antics right quick.


Doesn't change the fact that the PS2 version of the game looks pretty damn nice and from all reports, runs damn nice too. Especially surprising since everyone* previously had said that the game, "looked like shit" and "ran like shit".

* = maybe I hang around too many Gamecube-friendly sites

[Cmtz]

I hate to say it but GameCube is not a good system.
Last game I bought for GC was Jan 11th 2005
next game I will buy : After April 2006



What's your name again? I think you meant to say the games are not your type, right? :roll:

[hex65000]

To me this is a buy the PS2 version for $10 post its greatest hits phase. I have the Cube version and have no real motivation to pick up another semi-redundant copy. Especially since I haven't even started playing it on the Cube. I did play the demo a little bit. It's nice to finally get away from that horrid control scheme that the RE series liked. All it did was irritate me. :|

Hex.
[ Wobbuffet fan . . . "WobbA!"]

[sleepycal]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

[njiska]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

Of all the changes they made in the final game i'd have to say the only one i wish they didn't do was changing Leon's Jumping. The ladder's right there, use it.

All the rest were smart moves, especially the quick knife tactic.

[sleepycal]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

Of all the changes they made in the final game i'd have to say the only one i wish they didn't do was changing Leon's Jumping. The ladder's right there, use it.

All the rest were smart moves, especially the quick knife tactic.

Absolutely. I probably would have sold off the knife right away to save on inventory space.

[Diatribal Deity]

What makes this game so great is the atmosphere and pure excitement it generates. Looking at it or anything else for that matter under a magnifying glass (whether it be the Gamecube or Ps2 version) has nothing to do with its viability as a great gaming experience. That being said system specs mean very little in this day and age as development tools and programs are all the rage.

The more versions - the merrier.
More of something good makes it great (except in the case of a lot of DVD's)

[Promophile]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

Of all the changes they made in the final game i'd have to say the only one i wish they didn't do was changing Leon's Jumping. The ladder's right there, use it.

All the rest were smart moves, especially the quick knife tactic.

Your forgetting being able to use the binoculars anywhere. I found that to be the best thing they took out, and i donno why they did.

[sleepycal]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

Of all the changes they made in the final game i'd have to say the only one i wish they didn't do was changing Leon's Jumping. The ladder's right there, use it.

All the rest were smart moves, especially the quick knife tactic.

Your forgetting being able to use the binoculars anywhere. I found that to be the best thing they took out, and i donno why they did.

how do you use the binoculars anywhere? i didn't see any way to activate them save when leon approaches the village and you see the standard "A" prompt

[petewhitley]

I'd rather people played this on the GameCube instead of the watered-down PS2 port.

By the way - GameCube has sold 22 million units, 90 million PS2s have been sold. Keep in mind though, that the PS2 number is inflated because everyone has to buy 3 PS2s to replace their older ones, because the PS2 breaks constantly.

Can this ridiculous rumour just die already? I know but one mature gamer who has replaced their PS2 because of defects. I'm sure someone out there will pipe up "But I did!". Nine times out of ten they treat their systems like shit. And don't understand that never turning it off is probably going to screw it up, Edison. With the minimum of care the PS2 will last as long as any other disc-based system.

[hu6800]

http://ruliweb3.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/read.htm?main=ps&table=img_screen_con&page=1&num=8547&find=&ftext=&left=h&time=



I dont know why they even bothered to release it on the PSX2 .

[Promophile]

Speaking of the cube demo. I just played it the other day.

It was interesting to note the differences between the demo and the final product.

Leon's knife has to be equipped and used the same as any gun.

the menu screen is totally different. more like the traditional RE's. no attache case

Leon climbs down stairs and ladders. No superhuman knees of rubber jumps here.

I can't remember if there were more. The fight w/ the villagers before the bell rings seemed much harder though.

Of all the changes they made in the final game i'd have to say the only one i wish they didn't do was changing Leon's Jumping. The ladder's right there, use it.

All the rest were smart moves, especially the quick knife tactic.

Your forgetting being able to use the binoculars anywhere. I found that to be the best thing they took out, and i donno why they did.

how do you use the binoculars anywhere? i didn't see any way to activate them save when leon approaches the village and you see the standard "A" prompt

on "my" demo at least you hold down the Z button and you look though your binoculars, instead of your map popping up.

[Leo_A]

Don't want to create a new thread to ask this, but how connected is RE4 to the previous titles? Can it played like most Zelda games for example without missing much from not playing earlier titles?

I've never owned one or played much of any of them. I've tried RE4 on both systems with friends, mainly because of this thread and I wanted to see how they compared graphically, but this will be my first one to own and play (Thanks to becoming a players choice release for 20 bucks on the Game Cube).

And how scary is it? I'm playing Half-Life 2 and the surprises that game has that catch me off guard has me wanting something that will do it much more. :)

[Damion]

there are alot of noticable diffrences between the two, at least for me.

Draw distance seem shorter in the PS2 Version

Leons Hair and Jacket have more to them (I want to say texture) as well as most everything else, varity of color and such.

The PS2 version enviroment seems Bland. not alot varity in the color.

Explosions and fire effects are also noticably different.

Weither you care or not, the GC version is graphically Superior to the PS2 version. so IMO if you have a cube buy a used copy of the Cube version and if you really need to buy a PS2 copy, do sowhen it's 19.99 or cheaper (new or used) so that way you'll save some money.

[njiska]

there are alot of noticable diffrences between the two, at least for me.

Draw distance seem shorter in the PS2 Version

Leons Hair and Jacket have more to them (I want to say texture) as well as most everything else, varity of color and such.

The PS2 version enviroment seems Bland. not alot varity in the color.

Explosions and fire effects are also noticably different.

Weither you care or not, the GC version is graphically Superior to the PS2 version. so IMO if you have a cube buy a used copy of the Cube version and if you really need to buy a PS2 copy, do sowhen it's 19.99 or cheaper (new or used) so that way you'll save some money.

Damion my man, all that graphical charm aside you forgot something even more important. The horribly compressed sound in the ps2 version.

Let the be a leasson to everyone about how important Ram and CPU power is.

[Leo_A]

I'm well versed in how each compares to the other after personally trying both out, but if those were in reply to my post and not to the thread in general, I was asking about the story of RE4 and if I'd miss out on much if I played it before (If I ever do) such titles as Resident Evil and Resident Evil 2.

Both versions are very well done and both look great, so I'm more interested in which is cheapest picking between the two.

[DonMarco]

Both versions are very well done and both look great, so I'm more interested in which is cheapest picking between the two.
GameCube (new) went down to $20 about a week ago. PS2 new is still $40.

[Leo_A]

"I've never owned one or played much of any of them. I've tried RE4 on both systems with friends, mainly because of this thread and I wanted to see how they compared graphically, but this will be my first one to own and play (Thanks to becoming a players choice release for 20 bucks on the Game Cube). "

Yeah, I already knew that it was 20$ as my initial post shows, decided on the Players Choice Game Cube version before posting. I just don't want to miss out on much of the storyline and other details by not having played the previous Resident Evil games. Don't want to bother if it's like going to see a sequel to a movie you never saw, or part 2 of a two part tv show after not seeing the first half...

I guess I'm not making myself very clear in my question, maybe AtariAge can help. I'd ask my buddy that had both versions that I got to try out before, but he graduated last semester and is 1500 miles away. Thanks though.