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Oobgarm
10-13-2005, 12:29 AM
I saw mention of this on Penny Arcade, thought I'd mention it here in case someone may have missed it. Apparently he's offering $10k to a company to produce and market a violent videogame about a parent who takes revenge on the gaming industry after their son is killed 'because of' a violent game. See the whole article here:

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883

:roll:

Sothy
10-13-2005, 12:34 AM
ID play his game.


I especially like the part where you gun down Lawyers.

Xizer
10-13-2005, 12:41 AM
Stop giving Jack Thompson attention.

We don't care what wacky antics he comes up with every other week. It's always going to be something stupid, asinine or just plain retarded. Don't spread the stupidity people...just ignore him.

Milk
10-13-2005, 12:43 AM
...and if the game produces copycat killings, it will all be Jack Thompson's fault! Brilliant.

s1lence
10-13-2005, 12:52 AM
...and if the game produces copycat killings, it will all be Jack Thompson's fault! Brilliant.


I can see it now. "Jack thompson's game made me kill all those computer programmers, Really it did!!!"

njiska
10-13-2005, 01:14 AM
Talk about the pot and the fucking Kettle.

Giving in to his request would be like giving him fodder. Stupid bastard needs a good reality lesson. I say give him 2 weeks of "training" with Doom and drop him off in the hottest of hot zones in Iraq.

lendelin
10-13-2005, 01:30 AM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

Slimedog
10-13-2005, 01:51 AM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

Interesting take on it. While I think there are plenty of half wits that believe whatever they skim off his headlines, I really like your "glass half full" attitude toward Jack. Consider me swayed.

lendelin
10-13-2005, 02:21 AM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

Interesting take on it. While I think there are plenty of half wits that believe whatever they skim off his headlines, I really like your "glass half full" attitude toward Jack. Consider me swayed.

It is not even a "glass half full"- approach. Thompson isn't dangerous at all for the game industry, he's a blessing for them. Wacky and over the top criticism can be easily refuted.

The dangerous guys are the Walshs and Andersons, the Institute on Media and the Family who work with politicians and predominantly democratic think tanks which recommend to Democratic politicians for years now to take a tough stance on the entertainment industry focusing on videogames -- and the politicians followed suit. Democrats can make up this way for their poerceived weak position on family values in a soft political issue -- a win-win situation. The only notable exception is the Republican Schwarzenegger who did it for very similar reasons considering his background and his middle of the road republican strategy in California.

pacmanhat
10-13-2005, 02:31 AM
Huh. So...to combat violent video games, he wants to commission one himself? Interesting.

I wonder if he has any real specifications on how high quality the game has to be. If he doesn't...hell, I can program a simple game, and I wouldn't mind seeing 10 grand leave that asshat's pocket.

Doku_san
10-13-2005, 07:15 AM
I wouldnt mind playing it. I like violent video games. But it is kind of ironic how he is trying to prevent violent video games, by making his own.. What a retard. Oh well he is worth a laugh.

googlefest1
10-13-2005, 09:24 AM
mabey he works for the video game industry

since his antics actualy dampen the effects of the anti-gaming sentiment

Slimedog
10-13-2005, 09:47 AM
He is trying to be ironic by referencing A Modest Proposal by Johnathen Swift, but the metaphor really doesn't hold up on his end. If he thinks making a game about shooting game developers is as unthinkable as eating children, he is further off the deep end than I thought.

At any rate, he should get off his ass and make his own game. It wouldn't take him long to learn some high level graphic oriented language. If he wants to earn my respect, he should show that he knows something about what goes into games by actually producing his own. Heck, he could take the easy road and use one of the Fighter Maker games and name the characters "Disgruntled Parent" and "Capcom". I doubt this guy has the skills to figure out the create-a-wrestler mode on your average WWE game.

rbudrick
10-13-2005, 10:48 AM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

GO GET EM, JACK! :D

Ya fucking dumbass.

Lendlin, I couldn't have said it better.

-Rob

evildead2099
10-13-2005, 01:00 PM
...and if the game produces copycat killings, it will all be Jack Thompson's fault! Brilliant.

No kidding. 'Irony' is the first word that came to my mind, followed shortly by 'hypocrite.'


Talk about the pot and the fucking Kettle.

Giving in to his request would be like giving him fodder. Stupid bastard needs a good reality lesson. I say give him 2 weeks of "training" with Doom and drop him off in the hottest of hot zones in Iraq.

Hear hear! Then he'd actually be doing something to help his country (well, at least if you believe what Dubya says about why it was important to invade and occupy Iraq), as opposed to going against what America stands for (i.e. 'land of the free').


Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

You're right; Jack Thompson is to videogames what Ann Coulter is to politics. Unfortunately, there are always those too dumb to differentiate a valid argument from a ludicrous one.


The dangerous guys are the Walshs and Andersons, the Institute on Media and the Family who work with politicians and predominantly democratic think tanks which recommend to Democratic politicians for years now to take a tough stance on the entertainment industry focusing on videogames -- and the politicians followed suit.

Democratic think tank? Isn't that an oxymoron?

(I'd ask the same thing if you said Republican think tank, so no, I'm not playing partisan politics since I feel that the contemporary state of politics in America is a joke to begin with)


He is trying to be ironic by referencing A Modest Proposal by Johnathen Swift

I seriously doubt the Jack Thompson is the kind of person who'd give A Modest Proposal a read, much less appreciate it for its literary quality.[/quote]


he should get off his ass and make his own game. It wouldn't take him long to learn some high level graphic oriented language. If he wants to earn my respect, he should show that he knows something about what goes into games by actually producing his own.

I agree. Those who totally write off GTA because of its violence should at least appreciate the skill that went into developing the game.

Cav
10-13-2005, 01:20 PM
You realize some wise-ass indie developer is going to make this thing.

...I look forward to playing it.

Li Wang
10-13-2005, 04:21 PM
I agree with everyone who thinks the guy is actually a blessing. I seriously wonder about the guy's state of mind and whether he actually means to be a living piece of satire. If he doesn't, I think the guy might suffer from some form of autism or something. It doesn't make sense that someone could actually make it through law school and then seem to have logic and social skills that border on those of an adolescent. If that actually is him answering his email...wow.

XYXZYZ
10-13-2005, 04:29 PM
I wish I had $10,000.00 to throw away on stupid shit. :angry:

Humanoid
10-13-2005, 05:21 PM
At it again? Did he ever stop?

evildead2099
10-13-2005, 07:38 PM
It doesn't make sense that someone could actually make it through law school and then seem to have logic and social skills that border on those of an adolescent.

Consider yourself fortunate to not know who Ann Coulter is. :roll:

I agree that the best thing we can do is to go on with our lives, taking the time to lobby when necessary. Attention whores like Jack Thompson will go away if they find that no one wants to acknowledge what they say, no matter how outrageous the things they resort to may be.

njiska
10-13-2005, 07:47 PM
Consider yourself fortunate to not know who Ann Coulter is. :roll:

Ooooo that brings back some memories. I still remember listening to her fight with Peter Mansbridge on CBC claiming that Canada sent troops to Vietnam. Guess she didn't realize were all the draft dodgers were going. WHat a bitch.

As for Thompson, he's an asshole and a glory hog, but he has been brough in to draft videogame laws in florida and he is a still a threat. Don't give him undue attention, but don't ignore the bastard either.

unwinddesign
10-13-2005, 08:24 PM
This guy makes me laugh. He's good entertainment. LOL

GameSlaveGaz
10-13-2005, 10:36 PM
ROFL

I have never laughed harder in my life.

Hypocrisy is the most hilarious thing in the world.

Kudos to you Jack Thompson for being a complete and utter retard :hail: All hail the King of Stupid Hypocrites

Oh and I just threw this emoticon in for fun cuz it made me laugh too: :villagepeople:

Stark
10-13-2005, 10:41 PM
It's original anyways! Go get 'em Jack LOL

No I would not spend money on this type of game and yes Thompson is a fool.

Cmtz
10-13-2005, 10:57 PM
$10,000.00 to make a game?
:above me:

joshnickerson
10-14-2005, 08:11 AM
I think a company should make this game, but at the last minute, replace the main character with Johnny Turbo.

Ulticron
10-14-2005, 08:29 AM
I read that article a few nights back. LOL

Jack needs a hobby, maybe something like needle point.

Last time I checked I don't go around stompin on ppls heads hoping a coin will pop out their butt, nor do I bust brick walls in the hopes of getting coins, or pick flowers then try to shoot fireballs. However I will catch a shooting star to become invnicible. :P

It's a shame Jack doesn't have the sense to realize that if someone goes nuts over a video game and starts killing ppl, they were most likely a nut job to begin with and would have used anything they saw as an excuse to kill. "It was Captain Kurk's fault, I saw him killing Klingons and I thought these guys were Klingons!"

On the plus side of things Jack is named properly, cause Jack, don't know JACK about anything. LOL

BTW is it just me or does anyone else find his latest stunt a bit hypocritical?



Posted by joshnickerson

I think a company should make this game, but at the last minute, replace the main character with Johnny Turbo.

I didn't notice you were there till after I posted Josh. With good ol Johnny in the game we could go after those FEKA SOB's too. LOL Honestly I think Johnny Turbo is more of a threat to the video game industry than Jack, I mean look what Johnny did for the TG16.

evildead2099
10-14-2005, 09:54 AM
The concept behind this game reminds me of NARC... :/

ubersaurus
10-14-2005, 09:36 PM
Oh Penny Arcade, why do you amuse me so?

tylerwillis
10-17-2005, 06:24 PM
I cobbled together the last week or so of information if anyone wants to check it out:

My Blog Entry (http://www.tylerwillis.com/2005/10/17/jack-thompson-debacle-fall-2005/)

Mia D
10-17-2005, 08:19 PM
I think a company should make this game, but at the last minute, replace the main character with Johnny Turbo.

no

Jorpho
10-17-2005, 11:00 PM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

Y'know, for a good while not so long ago, whenever someone published a new article about video game violence, it seems people would spend a good long time deploring the lack of validity and understanding of the articles in question, while ignoring the constant repetition of the name of Thompson.

It is good to see change.

lendelin
10-18-2005, 12:19 AM
Don't be mad at and focus on Jack Thompson -- be glad that he exists because he makes videogamecriticism non-credible and hurts actually the moderate albeit nonsensical and effective criticism of media groups and parental groups which work together with politicians.

Noone takes Thompson seriously, he's a clown -- his crazy accusations reveal the nonsensical claims of media critics as what it is -- dumbness!

I wish the guy were every day in the newspaper -- he is a gift for the game industry.

Y'know, for a good while not so long ago, whenever someone published a new article about video game violence, it seems people would spend a good long time deploring the lack of validity and understanding of the articles in question, while ignoring the constant repetition of the name of Thompson.

It is good to see change.

When it comes to the substance of "violent" games and their effect on behavior, you have to challenge these nonsensical claims and deal with authors and organizations other than Thompson.

When it comes to PR startegies, however, I'd always associate NIMF (National Instutute on Media and the Family) with Thompson if I would work for the game industry. I would always try to mention NIMF and Thompson in one sentence.

Thompson is a clown and hurt media critics and NIMF with his over-the-top PR stunts and outrageous personal attacks. They try to distance themselves from him. A good PR startegy would be to connect these two.

...and it is justified to do so. The core beliefs of NIMF and Thompson are the same; there is a difference in methods to achieve the goal, and furthermore, they are different because Thompson is not as hypocritical as NIMF organizers and authors.

Unfortunately, NIMF is "respected" and established and works together with politicians. (David Walsh stood in the background when Hilary Clinton gave her little hypocritical statement about the hot coffee patch to the press) They are funded mainly by established businesses like Target, the Cargill Foundatin, and the Musser Fund.

NIMF is a very dangerous organization for the game industry, the activities of Thompson can be exploited by the game industry.

NIMF is the organization who keeps nonsense and myths about games alive. They provide the questionable, unreliable, and more often than not conceptionally idiotic research about game violence which politicians can use as ammunition gainst the game industry. ("Scientific research shows blah blah blah")

I have respect for Thompson because he is honest in his statements. I have no respect for NIMF authors like Walsh, Gentile and Anderson because they weasel through hard facts and their core beliefs that almost all games are just plain bad for children, teenagers and adults. The result is a a mix of propaganda, biased research, inconsistent statements, dark pictures of the game industry mixed in with some "moderate" statements for good measure all for the sake to be politically effective.

Jorpho
10-18-2005, 12:42 AM
When it comes to the substance of "violent" games and their effect on behavior, you have to challenge these nonsensical claims and deal with authors and organizations other than Thompson.

Perhaps... But the NIMF seems subdued and nonprolific compared to Thompson. Research is all well and good unless no one bothers paying real attention to your results.

lendelin
10-18-2005, 01:30 AM
When it comes to the substance of "violent" games and their effect on behavior, you have to challenge these nonsensical claims and deal with authors and organizations other than Thompson.

Perhaps... But the NIMF seems subdued and nonprolific compared to Thompson. Research is all well and good unless no one bothers paying real attention to your results.

Yep, NIMF is subdued and non-prolific compared to Thompson -- and therefore very effective behind closed doors and in public! The loud screamers are easily refuted, and a comparison to HItler is not only outrageous but is also noncredible. The high-profile seekers combined with outrageous claims and methods are harmless.

The NIMF research is dangerous BECAUSE noone pays close attention to the results and actually reads the articles. They can be hyped and exaggerated in the press, by politicians (who are the least who read the stuff) and the authors themselves as ammunition for anti-gaming propagandists.

It is propaganda in scientific clothing -- something very dangerous when hypocritical politicians can use it as a reference. NIMF works with Kohl, Lieberman and every politician willing to hop onto the anti-gaming bandwagon; and their Annual Report Card with distorted pictures of game content and their effects not substantiated by their own research is reported in the press and is THE reference for politicians.

Jasoco
10-18-2005, 04:32 AM
Of course, O.K. makes the obligatory runs to virtual versions of brick and mortar retailers Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, and Wal-Mart to steal supplies and bludgeon store managers and cash register clerks. "You should have checked kids' IDs!"

Oh, thank God, I'm safe. He forgot Kmart. LOL

joshnickerson
10-18-2005, 01:12 PM
Baha... BA-HA....

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HAAA!!!

Jack Thompson Enlists Seattle's Finest Against Penny Arcade (http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=5680)

When will he realize he's just become a bad joke? He needs help. He is not a well man.

Lady Jaye
10-18-2005, 01:32 PM
More on that over at Penny-Arcade's blog...

Jorpho
10-18-2005, 09:01 PM
It is propaganda in scientific clothing -- something very dangerous when hypocritical politicians can use it as a reference. NIMF works with Kohl, Lieberman and every politician willing to hop onto the anti-gaming bandwagon; and their Annual Report Card with distorted pictures of game content and their effects not substantiated by their own research is reported in the press and is THE reference for politicians.

Can it not be said that the politicians won't really care if it won't get them votes, and that the voting public won't care about dry scientific research?

Gamereviewgod
10-18-2005, 09:35 PM
I wrote a piece on the entire situation over the past few weeks and called it "The self destruction of Jack Thompson." Jack decided to drop me a line (read from bottom up):


Funny. I saw a picture of Hitler and the Nazi's on CNN too. If they can get on CNN, that doesn't say much about you Jack.

Matt Paprocki
http://www.digitpress.com
Review section editor
http://www.breakingwindows.com - Blog

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: Matt Paprocki
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: I was on CNN tonight about all this.

Who is self-destructing now, moron?

Jack Thompson
Land line: EDIT
1172 South Dixie Hwy, Suite 111
Coral Gables, FL USA 33146 greytop@comcast.net

Avenger
10-18-2005, 09:47 PM
some one did make his little game for him but he deamed it to not be up to standard...so Penny Arcade went ahead and donated the 10,000 dollars instead...Those guys are awesome

Jorpho
10-18-2005, 11:31 PM
I wrote a piece on the entire situation over the past few weeks and called it "The self destruction of Jack Thompson." Jack decided to drop me a line (read from bottom up):

What the?! So he's gone after Penny Arcade, VG Cats, you, and who knows who else?

It seems pretty hard to deny it now. It seems unlikely that he seriously thinks he can convert any gaming journalists to his cause. The only motivation for these random messages would be an attention grab! Either that, or he is genuinely not responsible for these messages, and someone is trying to defame him (in which case I would heartily congratulate that person for a truly impressive job).

What's next, Usenet flame wars? Maybe he can enlist the assistance of Derek Smart!

njiska
10-18-2005, 11:40 PM
I volunteer to be sued by Jack Thompson.

Jack your a douchbag, asshole.

There now sue me. Please give me the chance to bring your jack-ass-ed-ness into the limelight.

Slimedog
10-19-2005, 12:05 AM
What's next, Usenet flame wars? Maybe he can enlist the assistance of Derek Smart!

If you could get them to debate, it would sell millions on pay-per-view. Think along the lines of Aliens vs. Predator.

JT vs. DS
"Whoever loses, we win."

All the lies, self-serving lambasting and non sequitur arguments would open up a rift in the fabric of logic itself. The stage would collapse in on itself and create a singularity of illogic. We could witness the birth of a Black Ass Hole.

njiska
10-19-2005, 12:43 AM
Jack Thompson Update.

Jack was on CNN talking about Midway's Blitz: the League. here's what he had to say.

"The NFL wouldn't allow it's name to be used, so that tells you something."

Seriously does this guy even try to check facts? The reason Blitz is unliscened this year is because EA bought an exclusive liscence.

Damion
10-19-2005, 12:46 AM
Jack Thompson Update.

Jack was on CNN talking about Midway's Blitz: the League. here's what he had to say.

"The NFL wouldn't allow it's name to be used, so that tells you something."

Seriously does this guy even try to check facts? The reason Blitz is unliscened this year is because EA bought an exclusive liscence.

It's not to his advantage to check the facts. He is milking all the media attention for all it's worth. Don't think for a minute he is trying to do anything but benefit himself.

lendelin
10-19-2005, 04:57 AM
Can it not be said that the politicians won't really care if it won't get them votes, and that the voting public won't care about dry scientific research?

1. Why do you think that politicians use their "concerns" about violent games especially in election campaigns?...and Hilary Clinton did a press conference about GTA?...and why do all the legislative efforts happen regarding violent games? Because politicians do not perceive these efforts as getting them votes but do it for the sake of enttertaining the public?

2. Voters do not care about dry scientific research, but they care about headlines referring to it and statements of politicians using the research. The research is much more effective than the ridiculous Thompson activities because it comes in credible clothing.

Kohl, Lieberman, Clinton, Schwarzenegger don't want to be associated with Thompson, but they work together with NIMF. Thompson hurt the anti-gaming efforts, and the guy is great for the game industry. Whenever Thompson makes a PR stunt or is on CNN he takes a bit of credibility away from the reasoning of Walsh and associates.

The guy should be on TV every day; a smart PR strategy by the game industry could use Thompson as defining the image of anti-gaming activists.

tylerwillis
10-19-2005, 05:48 AM
I wrote a piece on the entire situation over the past few weeks and called it "The self destruction of Jack Thompson." Jack decided to drop me a line (read from bottom up):


Funny. I saw a picture of Hitler and the Nazi's on CNN too. If they can get on CNN, that doesn't say much about you Jack.

Matt Paprocki
http://www.digitpress.com
Review section editor
http://www.breakingwindows.com - Blog

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: Matt Paprocki
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: I was on CNN tonight about all this.

Who is self-destructing now, moron?

Jack Thompson
Land line: EDIT
1172 South Dixie Hwy, Suite 111
Coral Gables, FL USA 33146 greytop@comcast.net

I feel left out. I wrote a blog entry, and I should get insulted by Mr. Thompson just like everyone else! -_-

Jorpho
10-19-2005, 08:34 AM
1. Why do you think that politicians use their "concerns" about violent games especially in election campaigns?...and Hilary Clinton did a press conference about GTA?...and why do all the legislative efforts happen regarding violent games? Because politicians do not perceive these efforts as getting them votes but do it for the sake of enttertaining the public?

2. Voters do not care about dry scientific research, but they care about headlines referring to it and statements of politicians using the research. The research is much more effective than the ridiculous Thompson activities because it comes in credible clothing.

Maybe you do have a point... Thompson has just been at this so long it's hard to remember what things were like without him, when the headlines did not involve frivolous lawsuits. (Perhaps if there was no Thompson, someone would have to invent him.)

Lady Jaye
10-19-2005, 08:38 AM
Yes, but did you put metatags in your blogs so it can be found easily via Google? I'm sure that's how he found Matt's blog in the first place. Heck, I'm surprised he didn't start scourging all the videogame forums (like DP) and do his mad "I'll sue you all!" banter all over the place...

lendelin
10-19-2005, 01:48 PM
I wrote a piece on the entire situation over the past few weeks and called it "The self destruction of Jack Thompson." Jack decided to drop me a line (read from bottom up):


Funny. I saw a picture of Hitler and the Nazi's on CNN too. If they can get on CNN, that doesn't say much about you Jack.

Matt Paprocki
http://www.digitpress.com
Review section editor
http://www.breakingwindows.com - Blog

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: Matt Paprocki
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: I was on CNN tonight about all this.

Who is self-destructing now, moron?

Jack Thompson
Land line: EDIT
1172 South Dixie Hwy, Suite 111
Coral Gables, FL USA 33146 greytop@comcast.net

Matt, I have to disagree with you. We agree that Thompson is an idiotic guy with unsubstantiated over-the-top-criticism. I disagree with your evaluation about the function of Thompson for the public anti-gaming discussion.

From your blog:

If organizations continue to come out and destroy his name, maybe this man can finally stop garnering press, and we can all go back to doing what we love: playing any damn video games we want without this man driving us all crazy every week.


Thompson has to be kept alive and well. :) He just says in a very straightforward way that critics about games say for decades. You play, you learn by playing, and what you learned is acted out in real life. By playing GTA you learn to be a killer, and you do it in real life.

These are the same core beliefs of Walsh, Anderson, and Gentile and many others who go on on TV and preech this dumbness for years. Not only do they preech it, they also deliver the ammunition for dumb guys from parental groups to go on TV and say "we know that playing violent games make you violent." And they deliver the ammunition against games for politicians as well who can refer to "scientific research" in order to proof how bad games are for "our children and our society." Not only do these researchers consistently define the image of games over the years in public, they act as advisers for politicians, and their language and outrageous claims make it into legislation as recently seen in the bill passed in Michigan.

Thompson can be used to pin down the NIMF and Walsh and associates. In discussions, Thompson can be linked with NIMF, he refers to the research results of NIMF authors in order to make his claims. If I were on a panel with Walsh, I'd would throw in at every opportunity the name of Thompson, confront him with his claims, and ask him if he agrees with them. It would become clear how ambigious and dumb the claims of the NIMF are.

If Thompson is gone, the NIMF is still there working efficiently in public and behind closed doors to hurt the game industry.

Thompson is the biggest enemy of the NIMF, that is why they don't want to be associated with him. Their enemy is my dear friend. Thompson hurt dramatically the public image of anti-gaming groups and organizations, and the game industry has to use the guy in a smart PR strategy to go after the so-called established and credible videogame critics by associating him with these groups.

Thompson is an idiot, over-the-top, and a PR clown, but he isn't hypocritical. He just says in a starightforward way what others in hypocritical, subtle and idiotic claims preech for a long time now, namely that games lead to aggression and crime.

Thompson is indeed a blessing for the game industry, I wish he will be around for a long time.

Gamereviewgod
10-19-2005, 03:50 PM
I see what you're going for Len. The problem is he's the only one on TV, and the general public hears "research says!! reasearch says!!" they follow like lost sheep. We know he's an idiot. We can prove he's an idiot.

Soccer moms aren't on the internet like we are unfortunately and spouting off facts here and on website isn't doing anything to taint his image. This is the only side they hear, and they fall for it. It's on CNN, and why wouldn't they trust them?

You can't say that's good.

Oobgarm
10-20-2005, 11:49 AM
Interesting news for you all:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html

Cmosfm
10-20-2005, 12:02 PM
Ten thousand?

ONLY ten thousand?

What the hell, I'D give someone ten thousand to make me a fucking game...this is a joke and a half, who does he think he's going to recruit for that minimal joke amount of money.

Maybe Majesco...

lendelin
10-20-2005, 01:52 PM
I see what you're going for Len. The problem is he's the only one on TV, and the general public hears "research says!! reasearch says!!" they follow like lost sheep. We know he's an idiot. We can prove he's an idiot.

Soccer moms aren't on the internet like we are unfortunately and spouting off facts here and on website isn't doing anything to taint his image. This is the only side they hear, and they fall for it. It's on CNN, and why wouldn't they trust them?

You can't say that's good.

I say that is VERY good! If someone with over-the-top antics, Hitler comparisons, and outrageous overrreactions defines the image of the anti-gaming movement it hurts them; people still have common sense, and Thompson is easily exposed. If a Walsh stands behind Hilary Clinton, Kohl and Lieberman with nonsensical claims armed with "scientific" research and gives interviews whenever a "violent" game is released, now that is credible, serious and effective.

A ten-minute PR exposure based on antics is nothing, consistently over the years defining the image of the game industry with exaggerations is a lot.

Gamereviewgod
10-20-2005, 02:02 PM
people still have common sense,

ROFL

Sorry, but that's funny.

njiska
10-20-2005, 02:10 PM
Great news every one. Jack Thompson is under investigation by the FBA.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html

Let the good times roll.

joshnickerson
10-20-2005, 05:19 PM
Wow. Earl was right. Karma DOES exist.

njiska
10-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Wow. Earl was right. Karma DOES exist.

Sorry folks turns out Ars jumped the gun. According to the FBA as reported by Gamespot the only investigations underway against Thompson stem from his previous case against Howard Stern.

On a seperate note, anybody know if public defaming a group of people based on their personal interests illegal? Seriously i'm sick and tired of being called an idiot based on my personal interests and i want blood.