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sabre2922
10-14-2005, 08:54 AM
There were only seven games selling more than 100,000 units apiece in September compared to 20 last September. Consumers are clearly holding fire and waiting for the big releases to arrive at retail.

However, comparisons with last September are not wholly fair. That month saw a 44% year-on-year sales increase driven by the arrival of Nintendo’s Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green (GBA), LucasArts' Star Wars Battlefront (PS2, Xbox, PC), and Microsoft’s Fable (Xbox) which combined for approximately $95 million in sales.


The launch of Xbox 360 is likely to inject life into the industry as well as a widely-anticipated price-cut on PlayStation 2. Sony's PSP and Nintendo DS are also likely to be high on many Christmas lists.

sales figures:

PlayStation 2

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $15,5M 322,542
2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $9,1M 184,498
3 NASCAR 06: Electronic Arts $5,3M 109,016
4 TIGER WOODS 06 Electronic Arts $5M 101,770
5 X-MEN LEGENDS 2 Activision £3.9M 78,209

Xbox

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $7.2M 149,682
2 RAINBOW SIX:LCKDUbisoft $6.1M 126,024
3 BURNOUT REVENGE Electronic Arts $4.1M 83,698
4 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $4.1M 83,126
5 X-MEN LEGENDS 2 Activision $3.9M 78,182

GameCube

1 MARIO BASEBALL Nintendo $8.1M 164,170
2 WWE RECKONING 2 THQ $4.3M 86,708
3 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $1.5M 32,486
4 POKEMON XD: GoD Nintendo $1.3M 26,229
5 INCREDIBLE HULK VU Games $1.3M 26,449

Handhelds

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $4M 82,527
2 NINTENDOGS: CHI Nintendo $2.6M 85,117
3 NINTENDOGS: LAB Nintendo $2.5M 81,810
4 BURNOUT LEGENDS Electronic Arts $2.5M 48,902
5 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo $2.4M 68,490

MegaDrive20XX
10-14-2005, 09:02 AM
Very odd how that could have happened. I think the consumers and fans are wanting to get the 360 verison of Madden 06'. Yet, a majority of these games always sold better on PS2 for quite some time.

I honestly don't know where it could have slipped. Yet something sounds fishy to me.

petewhitley
10-14-2005, 09:51 AM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

njiska
10-14-2005, 11:28 AM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

Jesus what's with all the fanboy-ism lately? Look, nobody cares about the PS2 version of Madden, because the disscussion isn't about that. What we're discussing is how Mario Baseball, a game on the 3rd wheel system, out sold Madden 06 (one of the best selling franchises of all time) on the second place console. Honestly, even with the coming 360 launch, i am kind of shocked.

goatdan
10-14-2005, 12:09 PM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

I think the point was that Nintendo outsold something Xbox related. And that for once, the top five GameCube sales were not games that were more than a year old.

It definitely is apples ot oranges though. If you take the Cube sales of Madden and the Xbox sales together, it beats Mario Baseball. MB is an exclusive, so you would expect it to sell a lot on the only console its on. Madden is not. And it was in the top five for all consoles up there (although who knows what version is "handhelds"?)

davepesc
10-14-2005, 12:28 PM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

Jesus what's with all the fanboy-ism lately? Look, nobody cares about the PS2 version of Madden, because the disscussion isn't about that. What we're discussing is how Mario Baseball, a game on the 3rd wheel system, out sold Madden 06 (one of the best selling franchises of all time) on the second place console. Honestly, even with the coming 360 launch, i am kind of shocked.

But aren't we also comparing a new release to a game that's been out for 3 months?

ham and swiss
10-14-2005, 01:30 PM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

Jesus what's with all the fanboy-ism lately? Look, nobody cares about the PS2 version of Madden, because the disscussion isn't about that. What we're discussing is how Mario Baseball, a game on the 3rd wheel system, out sold Madden 06 (one of the best selling franchises of all time) on the second place console. Honestly, even with the coming 360 launch, i am kind of shocked.

Really! Doesn't he understand we're discussing how incredibly great Nintendo is and NOBODY can beat the bestest system around?

Silly fan boys indeed!

Kuros
10-14-2005, 01:38 PM
1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $15,5M 322,542
2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $9,1M 184,498
3 NASCAR 06: Electronic Arts $5,3M 109,016
4 TIGER WOODS 06 Electronic Arts $5M 101,770

This highly, highly saddens me. :puppydogeyes:

Hep038
10-14-2005, 01:48 PM
The fact that people get sad or happy over sales numbers saddens me.

LOL

I like that people post them, because I am curious. But I would never seek them out to look them over. Matter of fact the only time I see these numbers is on these boards and then it usually causes some Sony, casual gamer, sports gamer flame fest. That being said I will have to give Mario baseball a try.

Mianrtcv
10-14-2005, 02:18 PM
The only thing these numbers translate to me is demographics. If you like Mario and those games you need to buy a Nintendo system. A title homegrown, only available for one console should be able to outsell a title available for every game machine out (consoles, plus handhelds and personal computer).

Additionally, in my circle of gaming friends with a few exceptions. Most people said any sports titles they own are not for the Gamecube, all their sports titles are xbox or ps2. I think that is kind of a buying trend. That would have been a great statistic to see overall (sports titles in general, not just Madden, by console). I don't see many sports titles excelling on the Gamecube like they do on xbox or ps2.

As far as someone mentioning "what's with the fanboyism lately?". Lately? Fanboyism lurks in all corners of this and so many other sites.

njiska
10-14-2005, 02:28 PM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

Jesus what's with all the fanboy-ism lately? Look, nobody cares about the PS2 version of Madden, because the disscussion isn't about that. What we're discussing is how Mario Baseball, a game on the 3rd wheel system, out sold Madden 06 (one of the best selling franchises of all time) on the second place console. Honestly, even with the coming 360 launch, i am kind of shocked.

But aren't we also comparing a new release to a game that's been out for 3 months?

Yes, but you should know that Madden Fever runs long after it's release. Beside Mario Baseball isn't a power title like Madden, it's not even close. So even though Madden's been out for a while it's still really, really impressive to see that it's been selling so well.


As far as someone mentioning "what's with the fanboyism lately?". Lately? Fanboyism lurks in all corners of this and so many other sites.

Yes i do know that, but mir if you've been following this site for a while you'll know that it's been far more apparent lately. Maybe it's just the looming shadow of the next gen that's causing the fanboy-ism on this forum, but since august things have been getting worse.


1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $15,5M 322,542
2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $9,1M 184,498
3 NASCAR 06: Electronic Arts $5,3M 109,016
4 TIGER WOODS 06 Electronic Arts $5M 101,770

This highly, highly saddens me.

Dear god that hasw to be a sign of the apocalypse. :devilish:

RCM
10-14-2005, 02:35 PM
The fact that people get sad or happy over sales numbers saddens me.

As hardcore gamers we should be "sad or happy" over sales numbers. If our favorite franchises or new IP's don't sell well we have good reason to be sad. It's likely that we won't get a sequel. Also, it's sad when "glorified expansion packs" like Madden sell out all the time. Don't casuals have better things to blow their cash on?

classicb
10-14-2005, 02:39 PM
The fact that people get sad or happy over sales numbers saddens me.

LOL

I like that people post them, because I am curious. But I would never seek them out to look them over. Matter of fact the only time I see these numbers is on these boards and then it usually causes some Sony, casual gamer, sports gamer flame fest. That being said I will have to give Mario baseball a try.

I'm in total agreement with you. I find the numbers interesting but they are just numbers and they don't make me like or dislike any company more or sadden me. I've also been wanting to give Mario Baseball a try.

Also doesn't the PS2 version of Madden always outsell the Xbox version. I don't think it has that much to do with the 360 coming out and more to do with the awful location of the white and black buttons on the Xbox controller. You'd have to pay my die hard Madden friends to play with an Xbox controller. I can't blame them its the most illogical place to put two buttons. Thankfully they fixed this for the 360.

ice1605
10-14-2005, 03:04 PM
There were only seven games selling more than 100,000 units apiece in September compared to 20 last September. Consumers are clearly holding fire and waiting for the big releases to arrive at retail.

However, comparisons with last September are not wholly fair. That month saw a 44% year-on-year sales increase driven by the arrival of Nintendo’s Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green (GBA), LucasArts' Star Wars Battlefront (PS2, Xbox, PC), and Microsoft’s Fable (Xbox) which combined for approximately $95 million in sales.


The launch of Xbox 360 is likely to inject life into the industry as well as a widely-anticipated price-cut on PlayStation 2. Sony's PSP and Nintendo DS are also likely to be high on many Christmas lists.

sales figures:

PlayStation 2

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $15,5M 322,542
2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $9,1M 184,498
3 NASCAR 06: Electronic Arts $5,3M 109,016
4 TIGER WOODS 06 Electronic Arts $5M 101,770
5 X-MEN LEGENDS 2 Activision £3.9M 78,209

Xbox

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $7.2M 149,682
2 RAINBOW SIX:LCKDUbisoft $6.1M 126,024
3 BURNOUT REVENGE Electronic Arts $4.1M 83,698
4 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts $4.1M 83,126
5 X-MEN LEGENDS 2 Activision $3.9M 78,182

GameCube

1 MARIO BASEBALL Nintendo $8.1M 164,170
2 WWE RECKONING 2 THQ $4.3M 86,708
3 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $1.5M 32,486
4 POKEMON XD: GoD Nintendo $1.3M 26,229
5 INCREDIBLE HULK VU Games $1.3M 26,449

Handhelds

1 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts $4M 82,527
2 NINTENDOGS: CHI Nintendo $2.6M 85,117
3 NINTENDOGS: LAB Nintendo $2.5M 81,810
4 BURNOUT LEGENDS Electronic Arts $2.5M 48,902
5 GBA POKEMON EMERALD Nintendo $2.4M 68,490

Awesome! Go Mario! I wonder why PS2 had the most sales. GameCube should have... Oh well. Nintendogs has really took off! 2 of them are on the top spots!

Ice

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 03:43 PM
I don't really understand why this is news. So the GameCube Mario Baseball outsold the Xbox Madden. Apples and oranges, regardless of the fact that the PS2 Madden outsold the GameCube Mario by a factor of 2. If Mario had taken the number one spot, now we're talking ...

Indeed. Is it news that the PS2 Madden '06 almost outsold the top five GameCube games combined? Not if you've been following North American PS2 and GameCube sales charts for the past couple of years. But when you're a Nintendo fan, you need to savor these small "victories."

-- Z.

Mr.FoodMonster
10-14-2005, 04:00 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized. I also want to kill people that buy sports games from EA. Or, anything from EA. Or, any sports games in general.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 04:03 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized. I also want to kill people that buy sports games from EA. Or, anything from EA. Or, any sports games in general.

Am I spared from execution if I buy Winning Eleven 9, since that's sticking it to the FIFA-license-hogging EA?

-- Z.

CYRiX
10-14-2005, 04:34 PM
Quick thing on the madden, people started out playing it on psx so they moved on to ps2, who wants to learn new controls and/or if they already have per say, madden 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005 for ps2, why would they buy 2006 for xbox?

classicb
10-14-2005, 04:43 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized.

but does it matter if they sold that many? We got our sequel to Katamari and DDR turns out sequels as often as sports titles.

Top box office films aren't always the best movies either. With that said I like playing NCAA football and saw Wedding Crashers.

portnoyd
10-14-2005, 04:52 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized. I also want to kill people that buy sports games from EA. Or, anything from EA. Or, any sports games in general.

Am I spared from execution if I buy Winning Eleven 9, since that's sticking it to the FIFA-license-hogging EA?

For you, Zach, I'm going to say no.

SoulBlazer
10-14-2005, 05:38 PM
Oh yeah, REAL good post. Go ahead and kill me cause I bought and enjoy Madden and NCAA Football for my XBox. :roll:

Stupid fanboys.....

roushimsx
10-14-2005, 05:54 PM
I think i'm misreading those numbers, because it looks like Madden on PS2 sold more than the top 3 or 4 Gamecube games, let alone Mario Baseball.

So I don't get the point of the post. Kind of lame topic, in my opinion.

stressboy
10-14-2005, 06:08 PM
Awesome! Go Mario! I wonder why PS2 had the most sales. GameCube should have... Oh well. Nintendogs has really took off! 2 of them are on the top spots!

Ice

It may have something to do with the fact that there are far more PS2's out there than Gamecube's.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized. I also want to kill people that buy sports games from EA. Or, anything from EA. Or, any sports games in general.

Am I spared from execution if I buy Winning Eleven 9, since that's sticking it to the FIFA-license-hogging EA?

For you, Zach, I'm going to say no.

True story: I decided against asking Adrienne if she wanted a (well-)paying position as a Video Game Collector contributor because you're involved with her (as a friend or as something more, I don't know and don't care--it's not the nature of the relationship that's the problem, but the relationship itself).

I don't know what I've done to make you act like such an asshole towards me, but I'd like to resolve whatever issues you have and move on.

Or would you rather post more pictures of kittens?

-- Z.

Kroogah
10-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Katamari didn't sell that much. Neither did DDR. I'm slightly surprized. I also want to kill people that buy sports games from EA. Or, anything from EA. Or, any sports games in general.

Am I spared from execution if I buy Winning Eleven 9, since that's sticking it to the FIFA-license-hogging EA?

For you, Zach, I'm going to say no.

True story: I decided against asking Adrienne if she wanted a (well-)paying position as a Video Game Collector contributor because you're involved with her.

I don't know what I've done to make you act like such an asshole towards me, but I'd like to resolve whatever issues you have and move on.

Or would you rather post more pictures of kittens?

-- Z.

ZACH IS BACK! And wasting no time I see.

If you want to get personal, try private messages. Geez.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 07:57 PM
ZACH IS BACK! And wasting no time I see.

If you want to get personal, try private messages. Geez.

Did you happen to notice that Portnoyd was the one to launch a personal attack, not me?

-- Z.

Kroogah
10-14-2005, 07:59 PM
ZACH IS BACK! And wasting no time I see.

If you want to get personal, try private messages. Geez.

Did you happen to notice that Portnoyd was the one to launch a personal attack, not me?

-- Z.

Yes, and I happened to notice that you brought his girlfriend into the conversation for no reason. I'm not interested in hearing any "he started it" excuses.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 08:02 PM
ZACH IS BACK! And wasting no time I see.

If you want to get personal, try private messages. Geez.

Did you happen to notice that Portnoyd was the one to launch a personal attack, not me?

-- Z.

Yes, and I happened to notice that you brought his girlfriend into the conversation for no reason. I'm not interested in hearing any "he started it" excuses.

I brought his friend/girlfriend into the conversation to let him know that his assholiness is affecting her life in a negative way. I enjoyed her contributions to the first issue of VGC, and would love to assign her more work (now that we have a budget), but I can't call upon the friend of my enemy, no matter how talented she is. If he could drop his strange grudge, I could offer her the gig.

-- Z.

Kroogah
10-14-2005, 08:07 PM
And you're bringing this up in public instead of resorting to private messages because....?

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 08:10 PM
And you're bringing this up in public instead of resorting to private messages because....?

Because my PMs have been quoted out of context in public forums (including this one) in the past, and they can be deleted without being read.

Since he's publicly airing his dislike--hatred?--of me (which I don't understand, as he's never publicly or privately stated the reasons for his contempt), there's no reason to avoid publicly stating why I dislike him.

-- Z.

roushimsx
10-14-2005, 08:14 PM
I enjoyed her contributions to the first issue of VGC, and would love to assign her more work (now that we have a budget), but I can't call upon the friend of my enemy, no matter how talented she is. If he could drop his strange grudge, I could offer her the gig.

-- Z.

Not only does this thread continue to deteriorate in ways that would make Gamefaqs blush, but we've also got a shining example of professionalism here, folks!

Seriously, let's all stop kicking each other in the balls and go back to doing the group hug thing and talking about games. Throwing personal shit around like this is just immature and pathetic.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 08:18 PM
Not only does this thread continue to deteriorate in ways that would make Gamefaqs blush, but we've also got a shining example of professionalism here, folks!

Seriously, let's all stop kicking each other in the balls and go back to doing the group hug thing and talking about games. Throwing personal shit around like this is just immature and pathetic.

Who are you?

-- Z.

classicb
10-14-2005, 08:26 PM
Not only does this thread continue to deteriorate in ways that would make Gamefaqs blush, but we've also got a shining example of professionalism here, folks!

Seriously, let's all stop kicking each other in the balls and go back to doing the group hug thing and talking about games. Throwing personal shit around like this is just immature and pathetic.

Who are you?

-- Z.

does it really matter who he is? remember you're posting in a public forum instead of keeping your crap to private PM's which was already recommended.

zmweasel
10-14-2005, 08:29 PM
Not only does this thread continue to deteriorate in ways that would make Gamefaqs blush, but we've also got a shining example of professionalism here, folks!

Seriously, let's all stop kicking each other in the balls and go back to doing the group hug thing and talking about games. Throwing personal shit around like this is just immature and pathetic.

Who are you?

-- Z.

does it really matter who he is? remember you're posting in a public forum instead of keeping your crap to private PM's as was already recommended.

It's a legitimate question. Did he see the previous thread(s) in which Portnoyd went kitten-crazy? Does he know anything about Video Game Collector? Does he know anything about me? I'm assuming the answer to all these questions is "no," so I have no use for his condescending post.

-- Z.

Kroogah
10-14-2005, 08:33 PM
The rest of us have no use for your condescending posts. If this was the first time a thread that you've been involved in totally went to shit, I'd keep it open. But it's not. Again, if you have something to settle with an individual, speak to them in private.